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Would you sell a chunk of your country for $1000?
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Mitch
on 28/09/2024, 23:16:05 UTC
Imagine that in the country where you are a citizen, a private company has bought a large piece of land with access to the ocean, approximately 100x100 kilometers in size. Currently, no one lives on this land.

The company has investors who would like to create an independent state of a new type on this territory.

The investors want a truly autonomous state that independently conducts its internal and foreign policy. They plan to seek diplomatic recognition from other countries, issue their own passports, build a modern city, and create something like a comfortable offshore haven with ultra-low taxes and minimal business regulation.

The company makes an offer to your country: recognize our independence for this territory as a new state. In return, we will make a one-time payment to each citizen of your country in the form of a gold bar equivalent to $1,000 USD.

This proposal is announced in the media and debated. Opinions are polarized, with some people convinced that you can't sell your homeland, even a small piece of territory, even if the land was already legally purchased by the company on the market and no one lives there.

They argue that the land of the entire country is the heritage of all future generations and is priceless.

Another group of people would like to receive $1,000 worth of gold and don't mind the emergence of a new country.

Your government decides to hold a referendum on whether to adopt a new law for such a deal, sell this small piece of the country, and recognize the new country, or leave everything as it is.

When I ask this question, people often try to imagine themselves as a politician, president, or dictator of the country receiving the offer. But don't do that; I'm not interested in the president's answer, I'm interested in the answer from the real you, an ordinary citizen. Consider the situation from your personal point of view, what are the pros and cons for you personally.

Think about what income you personally expect to receive from this territory over your lifetime if it remains part of the country and is just an uncultivated field waiting to be sold.

Also, think about how it would affect your country's economy if not only you but every citizen received a gift of gold worth $1,000.

How would you vote?
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Re: The problem of wrapped tokens & DEX
by
Mitch
on 24/09/2023, 17:54:37 UTC
AtomicDEX or any atomic swap based DEX has liquidity issue. This is big road block.  No liquidity,  no big traders coming.
I think, it is typical cold start problem, same as at any platform.
Money and advertisment solve it.
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Re: The problem of wrapped tokens & DEX
by
Mitch
on 24/09/2023, 13:37:09 UTC
Yes, you can buy native BTC on ThorChain, that's fine.
They use decentralized validators with collateral to transfer data between blockchains. This model is better than a simple centralized bridge, but still worse than a true atomic swap.
Decentralized validators need to be paid, when I tested ThorChain, the final commission of the system was around 2%, that's quite a lot.
Also a system with decentralized validators has an additional attack vector, especially when swapping amounts larger than the validators' collateral.
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Re: The problem of wrapped tokens & DEX
by
Mitch
on 22/09/2023, 17:36:21 UTC
wrapped tokens are "pegged" not bridged

bridges are sub networks/systems(not tokens themselves) that allow value of multiple mainnet pegged tokens to transfer together on that one bridge network that transfers between different mainnets

pegged token = value vehicle
bridge = transport network
Wrapped tokens are "pegged", I totally agree.
But pegged by who?
My answer is "pegged by the bridge".

For example USDT.BSC is USDT pegged by Binance.
Binance act as the main bridge, you give them real USDT issued by Tether in some other network, they give you wrapped USDT.BSC.
And what is realy important, they do it in both directions, for now.

And right now many other bridges can help you transfer USDT from other networks to BSC and back.
Now all these bridges work like a transport system.

Now imagine that Binance goes to bakrutsy, CS goes to jail, as it happens with FTX.
In the blink of an eye all bridges stop accepting USDT.BSC.
Because bridges are not transport system, they are specialized exchanges.

So, what is happening if the collateral address used to store the native BTC is still fine? Im concerned about the collateral address rather than bridge. It's caused by the bitcoin stored in the collateral address is the main reason that gives wrapped tokens 1:1 value.
Even if the bridge was collapse and the value of wrapped token will not be affected caused by that.
Imagine that the collateral BTC is still at the same addresses, and BitGo says that everything is fine.
They still accept BTC and give WBTC, but only in that direction.
The reverse direction does not work, no one can convert WBTC back to normal BTC.
Maybe they just lost the keys.
From time to time BitGo tweets that everything is fine, we'll fix it soon.
In this very imaginary situation, what happens to the price of WBTC if they don't fix the bridge in 1 month, 10 months, 10 years?
WBTC price soon goes down, and after several years will be 100 times less than actual BTC.

All I'm just saying is that native BTC is better than wrapped BTC, the risk is lower.
So it makes sense to look for how to trade native BTC instead of wrapped BTC.
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Re: The problem of wrapped tokens & DEX
by
Mitch
on 22/09/2023, 17:14:18 UTC
Atomic swaps are being used by many DEX's and dapps to trade bitcoin and ETH like coins with each other --it's not impossible.
Sure it's possible, but I don't know of a usable enough service for atomic swap.
I found only AtomicDEX, but they don't good enougth, they allow use for trade only their own wallet.
U say many, so give me links where i can swap BTC to ETH by atomic swap.

Here are few other:


Use these platforms at your own risk. They can be dangerous and are always potential targets of hacker groups. All these platforms use atomic swap features.
I take a quick look at these platforms, and only AtomicDex of them uses Atomic Swap as technology.
Bisq and hodlhodl is p2p trading platform, but they rely on human who will solve disputes if someone is unhappy by the results of the deal.
So you have to trust these people who run the platform. They can make mistakes and also they can collude with your counterparty.
So they are not actually trustless. They just have no KYC, which is great of course.

Defiswap is just a normal DEX, you can't swap cross chain there.
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Re: The problem of wrapped tokens & DEX
by
Mitch
on 20/09/2023, 23:19:24 UTC
⭐ Merited by Apocollapse (2)
wrapped tokens are "pegged" not bridged

bridges are sub networks/systems(not tokens themselves) that allow value of multiple mainnet pegged tokens to transfer together on that one bridge network that transfers between different mainnets

pegged token = value vehicle
bridge = transport network
Wrapped tokens are "pegged", I totally agree.
But pegged by who?
My answer is "pegged by the bridge".

For example USDT.BSC is USDT pegged by Binance.
Binance act as the main bridge, you give them real USDT issued by Tether in some other network, they give you wrapped USDT.BSC.
And what is realy important, they do it in both directions, for now.

And right now many other bridges can help you transfer USDT from other networks to BSC and back.
Now all these bridges work like a transport system.

Now imagine that Binance goes to bakrutsy, CS goes to jail, as it happens with FTX.
In the blink of an eye all bridges stop accepting USDT.BSC.
Because bridges are not transport system, they are specialized exchanges.
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Re: The problem of wrapped tokens & DEX
by
Mitch
on 20/09/2023, 23:00:36 UTC
..But unlike bridges, I'm not sure there have been a direct attack on  Wrapped tokens that resulted in loss of funds since the value these wrapped tokens have are backed by the actual collateral asset held by BitGo Trust.

As long as BitGo's collateral is in place, all is well.
However, imagine a situation where serious people came to the owners of BitGo and made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
For example, "give us the private keys to your wallets and you and your families will stay alive".

They probably use multi-signature, or different wallets are managed by different employees. In any case, this is a small number of specific people, finding them all at once is not a very difficult task for the intelligence services of any country. Organized criminals can handle it too.
The $4.4 billion BitGo has on custody is a decent slice of the pie.

What will happen to the WBTC rate if there is about 0 BTC left on BitGo bitcoin accounts ?
I don't think they will be bailed out by the government like a bank that is collapsing.
They will simply cease to exist.
All those who had WBTC on their hands can only record losses.
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Re: The problem of wrapped tokens & DEX
by
Mitch
on 20/09/2023, 18:11:49 UTC
Atomic swaps are being used by many DEX's and dapps to trade bitcoin and ETH like coins with each other --it's not impossible.
Sure it's possible, but I don't know of a usable enough service for atomic swap.
I found only AtomicDEX, but they don't good enougth, they allow use for trade only their own wallet.
U say many, so give me links where i can swap BTC to ETH by atomic swap.
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The problem of wrapped tokens & DEX
by
Mitch
on 20/09/2023, 17:25:21 UTC
The problem with modern DEX is that a large part of the coins being traded are wrapped tokens.
All wrapped tokens are issued by bridges, that's their essence, if someone issued a wrapped token, it is automatically a bridge. And this bridge can suddenly close because it is centralized.
The bridge's scam will lead to the scam of all the tokens that the bridge has issued.

The risk of scamming bridges and wrapped tokens is highly underestimated.
To estimate the size of the problem, I asked an AI chatbot trained on fresh data "list of cryptocurrency bridges that have lost users' money in the last 3 years with the amounts of losses".
In response I got a list of 9 bridges that have lost money.
In total, over $2 billion has been lost in cryptocurrency bridge hacks in the last 3 years.

The list is not complete, at least the DEX Waves scam last year, which I watched in real time as a user, was not included.
Waves bridge stopped converting wrapped tokens into original tokens and the price went to hell, estimated users lost about $100M.
Half a year later Waves launched a new bridge, changed the names of all the old tokens that had fallen to almost zero. The new bridge issued new wrapped tokens and DEX continued to work.

Trading on DEX is a great idea, we only trust the smart contract, fully trustless. However, there is a nuance in what exactly you buy on DEX.
If you have ETH and you want to buy BTC, on DEX you can only buy wrapped bitcoin, for example WBTC.
WBTC is an ERC20 standard token issued by the BitGo bridge that is backed by native BTC 1:1.
BitGo publishes a list of bitcoin wallets on their website so that everyone can verify that they have exactly as many bitcoins as they have issued WBTC, and so far they are doing fine. However, at any moment these bitcoins can be stolen from their accounts, for example by dishonest employees or under criminal pressure.
As long as you hold the wrapped token you are carrying this additional risk that has occurred due to the centralized issuer of the token.

Vitalik Buterin recommends using atomic swap from time to time, most recently in the post "Don't overload Ethereum's consensus".
Here is a small quote from it:
Cross-chain bridges: similar logic as oracles, but also, try to minimize how much you rely on bridges at all: hold assets on the chain where they originate and use atomic swap protocols to move value between different chains.

First of all, of course, we need to understand what atomic swap is and why it is better than bridge.
Atomic swap allows you to exchange coins issued in different blockchains without trusting the counterparty. You can exchange native coins, for example, native BTC for native ETH.
You can also exchange tokens of any standard, including ERC20, e.g. USDT.ETH to BTC.
You don't need to use a wrapped token, you just buy the asset on the right network. You don't need to trust the seller, it can be an anonymous person on the internet with no reputation.
The deal will either be finalized on both sides or canceled and everyone will be left with their coins.
The deal does not require a guarantor in the form of a person or organization.
In personal conversations, the first objection I've encountered when describing these fantastic features of atomic swap is usually "but that's impossible!".

However, it is possible, implemented even in a couple of working services, but it was done so obscurely or inconveniently that it has not yet become popular.
How the atomic swap works will be discussed in detail in the next article.



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Re: Как подключить прием USDT без сервисов?
by
Mitch
on 12/11/2021, 07:02:15 UTC
если б ты шарил ты бы сам его написал. а так то че Никто с тобой возиться не будет. если ты написать не смог его тебя любая проблема в тупик поставит

Следуя твоей логике, каждый программист под каждую задачу просто пишет сам код.
Но в современной разработки это считается ужасным подходом, писать свой велосипед для типичной задачи, а правильный подход, - найти уже готовое хорошее решение.

В крипте просто еще недостаточно готовых решений, я просто этого не знал когда делал этот топик, а теперь я знаю, что это еще очень очень сырая область и тут действительно все покачто пишут свои велосипеды.
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Re: Как подключить прием USDT без сервисов?
by
Mitch
on 12/09/2021, 20:11:53 UTC
ТС, вам USDT принимать требуется в каком блокчейне?
..
Для USDT TRC-20 рекомендую от этого же разработчика https://tronapi.net/
В Троне. Спасибо, сервис выглядит довольно интересно, особенно в ценовой политике.
Но все же это тоже сервис, а не просто софт который ставишь и сам себе сервис.
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Re: Как подключить прием USDT без сервисов?
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Mitch
on 02/07/2021, 15:31:08 UTC
Понял вашу идею.
Под кефир собсно есть готовая реализация у btcpayserver, а вот поддержки трона не нашел нигде пока, видимо только заказывать.

Сервера по старинке предпочитаем держать под линуксом
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Re: Cryptocurrency payment processor for TRC20
by
Mitch
on 01/07/2021, 16:46:34 UTC
I have no idea why someone would accept trc20 tokens, except maybe to save on fees sometimes, but however you can check out several payment processors that accept them like NowPayments:
https://nowpayments.io/

As far as I know there is no clone of BTCPayServer for tron, but here is the list of most Payment Gateways that accept Tron so maybe they accept their trc20 tokens also:
https://cryptwerk.com/companies/payment-gateway/trx/
Sure fees VERY important, if u need to accept many small payments that less than 100$
I see huge amount of fervices that ready accep tokens for me, i just don't want to use them.
I don't need convertation to fian, i just whant to accept USDT and do not whant:
- Trust my money to some servece
- Pay 0.5% to some service
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Re: Как подключить прием USDT без сервисов?
by
Mitch
on 01/07/2021, 15:49:50 UTC
У нас биржевые финтех решения, но в том числе есть несколько клиентов, которые используют только наше ПО криптошлюза в качестве приема средств в BTC, LTC, BCH, ETH + ERC20 Tokens и выводов
И это именно то решение, когда на ваш сервер ставятся ноды и происходит с ними взаимодействие напрямую, а не через мерчантов.

Описание работы можно почитать в наших доках: https://buyownex.com/docs/crypto-gateway

Телеграм: @BuyOwnEx
От 19к$ - дороговато, для того чтоб просто прием токена реализовать.
Целиком биржа нам не нужна.
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Re: Как подключить автоматический прием ток&#
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Mitch
on 01/07/2021, 15:44:05 UTC
Посмотрите https://github.com/Nethereum/Nethereum.SimpleWindowsWallet если на С# пишите, можно через удалённые ноды, можно на своей.

Посомотрел, это же кошель под винду, чем он может мне помочь?


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Сryptocurrency payment processor for TRC20
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Mitch
on 01/07/2021, 15:40:18 UTC
I need cryptocurrency payment processor, that support TRC20
Something like BTCPayServer that work with Tron tokens
I wish accept TRC20 tokens at my site, and take it directly, without serveces that takes fee.
Some library that i can setup on my server.
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Как подключить автоматический прием токе
by
Mitch
on 07/06/2021, 12:41:49 UTC
⭐ Merited by klarki (2)
Задача, к сайту который сейчас работает с обычными платежками подключить USDT.
Хочется избежать использования мерчантов, с ними то все понятно, а сделать напрямую прием токенов, для начала ERC20
Как я понял надо на свой сервер поставить кошелек\ноду эфириума и с ней взаимодействовать по api.

Подскажите, где почитать документацию по этому вопросу, в идеале если там будет описан прием и массовые выплаты сразу по USDT, хотя поидее работа со всеми токена эфириума одинакова.
Какие есть варианты по использованию ноды\кошелька, чтоб там был api ?
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Требуется платная консультация по интегр
by
Mitch
on 17/02/2021, 14:34:12 UTC
Планируем выпустить для своего проекта токен на waves
Нужен специалист, с опытом интеграции токенов waves в сайт, чтобы провести нам консультацию.
Оплата по договоренности.
Пишите в телеграмм @akamitch
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Re: Файловый майнинг, подтверждение владени&#
by
Mitch
on 17/02/2020, 07:12:38 UTC
Систему важно сконструировать так, чтобы владелец\автор файла мог не быть хостером, а если и был, то не имел никаких дополнительных прав.
Нужно иммутабельное хранилище данных, так чтобы автор тоже не мог изменять файл после его заливки в сеть.

Получается да, если коллизия то голосуют все кто заключал контракт и те кого меньшинство теряют свой депозит и статус хостера.
Похоже что как минимум одно решение этой задачи найдено, отлично!
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Re: Файловый майнинг, подтверждение владени&#
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Mitch
on 15/02/2020, 09:40:59 UTC
При сигнализировании, получается надо еще указать верные данные, чтоб нельзя было просто так жаловаться непонятно что утверждая.
Чтобы на саму жалобу также можно было жаловаться, если это жалоба от атакующего.