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Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?
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Naer
on 26/12/2014, 02:00:00 UTC
The welfare state enables the illuminati to control and manipulate the people

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Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?
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Naer
on 26/12/2014, 01:55:36 UTC
Workers don't like their property - their labor that is converted into money - stolen from them. That's what the welfare state does.

The idea of helping the poor, or supporting those who are disabled, is noble. The idea of organizing a welfare state so that the organizers can steal some of the money for themselves even though they give other money to the poor, is criminal.

People are generally compassionate. They will help others who are in need. For those who are in need but haven't been reached by the compassionate, let the organizers request donations rather than creating a welfare state. Some people will always donate.

Removal of the welfare state will get the welfare recipients who don't really need welfare, up off their behinds, and out there working for a living. All the rest of us will get to keep more of what we work for. We will spend some of it on things that we want and need. More jobs will be created. Prosperity will abound.

The welfare state is destroying us.

Smiley

you say people are compassionate? then why is 40% of the worlds wealth dominated by the 1%

What does the greedy or lucky 1% have to do with the fact that people are generally compassionate? The world's population is estimated at 7.4 billion. One percent of that is 74 million. That's only about 22.5 % of the U.S. population. So, what do the greedy have to do with the compassionate? Here's what. The greedy who happen to have pets, or ranches, or horses, etc., often have a great deal of compassion for their animals. And they would for the world of people as well, if they thought the 99% of the world that isn't wealthy weren't a bunch of greedy b******s who love to sit on their behinds doing nothing except milk the welfare system.

Smiley

It's about equality. Welfare instills it to some extent. captalism preserves scarcity and in it's natural state is imbalance. are you making the argument that the 99% is greedy? kind of ironic

There isn't any equality. Even identical twins are not equal. Everyone is at least a little different from everyone else. Now think about this that I am going to say. Here it is. "Since everyone is different than everyone else, we are all equal in the sense that we are all different from everyone else." We are all the same in the fact that we are all people. We are all different in almost everything else.

Why should someone get results of the labor of someone else when that labor is taken by force? That's what the welfare state does. And while they are doing it, they, the welfare state people, help themselves to an extra share of the property that they claim to be doling out, even though they don't deserve it.

People don't need the welfare state. They don't need government at all. After all, government and welfare state are made up of people. Most of the time those people simply skim off the top. Since the people are still people without the welfare state or any other government, they can live even better without government and the welfare state leaching off them.

Smiley

A anarchic society cannot exist for the state is an extention of the free market. They are two sides of the same coin. State social programs are prevalent in nations where public health is in order and there is less crime
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Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?
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Naer
on 25/12/2014, 20:45:56 UTC
Stick a fork in socialism (welfare States) and the global economy. The fat lady has sung, and we await the collapse into a chaotic economic abyss of megadeath and destruction. Thank you welfare State! This is a great gift to humanity. It has only happened over and over again without fail since Mesopotamia 6000 B.C., yet humans continue to do the same exact social organization (tax and redistribute) over and over expecting a different outcome. That is the definition of INSANITY.


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You are referring to history as if times haven't changed. If pure capitalism was in order back then, things might have turned out worse. The times have changed and we have movements such as the zeitgeist movement that recognizes that technological unemployment and technological improvements has instilled leeway for such balance of income disparities such as some sort of automated income generation to fill in the gaps and provide greater balance to our ecosystem
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Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?
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Naer
on 25/12/2014, 20:37:16 UTC
Workers don't like their property - their labor that is converted into money - stolen from them. That's what the welfare state does.

The idea of helping the poor, or supporting those who are disabled, is noble. The idea of organizing a welfare state so that the organizers can steal some of the money for themselves even though they give other money to the poor, is criminal.

People are generally compassionate. They will help others who are in need. For those who are in need but haven't been reached by the compassionate, let the organizers request donations rather than creating a welfare state. Some people will always donate.

Removal of the welfare state will get the welfare recipients who don't really need welfare, up off their behinds, and out there working for a living. All the rest of us will get to keep more of what we work for. We will spend some of it on things that we want and need. More jobs will be created. Prosperity will abound.

The welfare state is destroying us.

Smiley

you say people are compassionate? then why is 40% of the worlds wealth dominated by the 1%

As the government and taxes grow bigger, the inequality grows bigger to the point where we are now where some have a lot and no risk of losing it in the current state of affair while other have not chance of making it. So big government and big taxes are increasing inequality and hurting the poor.

If people were paying less taxes, they would have more money to give away and would give away more

isn't big government an inevitable result of technological advancement?  as technology increases so does technological unemployment. i see a future when we are all government stipends. srs

Big government is inevitable when the people are disarmed, or when the people are ignorant of the dangers of big government.

Smiley

back too welfare, technological unemployment would cause for a rise in some universal welfare state. where scarcity is evenly distributed among everyone regardless of where they are. we are not separate from nature and with great automation technology, it would make sense   that rational distribution of the wealth is essential to the integrity of the society. without a strong universal basic income we will see greater crime, our prisons and psych wards filled and more problems then is needed
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Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?
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Naer
on 25/12/2014, 20:28:21 UTC
Workers don't like their property - their labor that is converted into money - stolen from them. That's what the welfare state does.

The idea of helping the poor, or supporting those who are disabled, is noble. The idea of organizing a welfare state so that the organizers can steal some of the money for themselves even though they give other money to the poor, is criminal.

People are generally compassionate. They will help others who are in need. For those who are in need but haven't been reached by the compassionate, let the organizers request donations rather than creating a welfare state. Some people will always donate.

Removal of the welfare state will get the welfare recipients who don't really need welfare, up off their behinds, and out there working for a living. All the rest of us will get to keep more of what we work for. We will spend some of it on things that we want and need. More jobs will be created. Prosperity will abound.

The welfare state is destroying us.

Smiley

you say people are compassionate? then why is 40% of the worlds wealth dominated by the 1%

What does the greedy or lucky 1% have to do with the fact that people are generally compassionate? The world's population is estimated at 7.4 billion. One percent of that is 74 million. That's only about 22.5 % of the U.S. population. So, what do the greedy have to do with the compassionate? Here's what. The greedy who happen to have pets, or ranches, or horses, etc., often have a great deal of compassion for their animals. And they would for the world of people as well, if they thought the 99% of the world that isn't wealthy weren't a bunch of greedy b******s who love to sit on their behinds doing nothing except milk the welfare system.

Smiley

It's about equality. Welfare instills it to some extent. captalism preserves scarcity and in it's natural state is imbalance. are you making the argument that the 99% is greedy? kind of ironic
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Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?
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Naer
on 25/12/2014, 18:45:55 UTC
Workers don't like their property - their labor that is converted into money - stolen from them. That's what the welfare state does.

The idea of helping the poor, or supporting those who are disabled, is noble. The idea of organizing a welfare state so that the organizers can steal some of the money for themselves even though they give other money to the poor, is criminal.

People are generally compassionate. They will help others who are in need. For those who are in need but haven't been reached by the compassionate, let the organizers request donations rather than creating a welfare state. Some people will always donate.

Removal of the welfare state will get the welfare recipients who don't really need welfare, up off their behinds, and out there working for a living. All the rest of us will get to keep more of what we work for. We will spend some of it on things that we want and need. More jobs will be created. Prosperity will abound.

The welfare state is destroying us.

Smiley

you say people are compassionate? then why is 40% of the worlds wealth dominated by the 1%

As the government and taxes grow bigger, the inequality grows bigger to the point where we are now where some have a lot and no risk of losing it in the current state of affair while other have not chance of making it. So big government and big taxes are increasing inequality and hurting the poor.

If people were paying less taxes, they would have more money to give away and would give away more

isn't big government an inevitable result of technological advancement?  as technology increases so does technological unemployment. i see a future when we are all government stipends. srs
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Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?
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Naer
on 25/12/2014, 18:40:31 UTC
I think its a necessary evil to instill some form of equality while controlling scarcity through taxation and maintaining the public health of the society. more equal nations have better public health and less crime.

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Taxes are helping the rich because they hurt the weak more. If you want to help someone start by not taking away most its income. Most of the taxes are wasted anyway.

maybe its up to the 1% to help fund a universal basic income to instill equality and maintain the integrity of the society
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Re: why all the hate for the welfare state?
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Naer
on 25/12/2014, 18:12:22 UTC
Workers don't like their property - their labor that is converted into money - stolen from them. That's what the welfare state does.

The idea of helping the poor, or supporting those who are disabled, is noble. The idea of organizing a welfare state so that the organizers can steal some of the money for themselves even though they give other money to the poor, is criminal.

People are generally compassionate. They will help others who are in need. For those who are in need but haven't been reached by the compassionate, let the organizers request donations rather than creating a welfare state. Some people will always donate.

Removal of the welfare state will get the welfare recipients who don't really need welfare, up off their behinds, and out there working for a living. All the rest of us will get to keep more of what we work for. We will spend some of it on things that we want and need. More jobs will be created. Prosperity will abound.

The welfare state is destroying us.

Smiley

you say people are compassionate? then why is 40% of the worlds wealth dominated by the 1%
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why all the hate for the welfare state?
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Naer
on 25/12/2014, 07:20:06 UTC
I think its a necessary evil to instill some form of equality while controlling scarcity through taxation and maintaining the public health of the society. more equal nations have better public health and less crime.

discuss
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Re: Not sure if i should go note 4 or iphone 6
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Naer
on 25/12/2014, 07:10:30 UTC
Don't have a phone. If i didn't have an ipad already id def get note 4, but if i go iphone 6, it would sync with my ipad

Help me decide

Nice to see you have ruled out iPhone 6+.  Smiley

i really meant the bigger one
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Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images
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on 25/12/2014, 07:03:49 UTC
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on 25/12/2014, 07:02:12 UTC
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Re: Merry Christmas Bitcoinland!
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on 25/12/2014, 07:01:11 UTC
you all too
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Re: Twerk for them Bitcoins
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Naer
on 24/12/2014, 21:14:04 UTC
nah bro I'm sweet
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how do i automatiically subscribe to threads when i post in them....
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Naer
on 24/12/2014, 12:30:40 UTC
And where do i get the list of subscribed threads? Thanks
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Re: Why can't I sink anymore.
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Naer
on 23/12/2014, 23:51:57 UTC
Why do birds chirp? Why is the sky blue?
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Re: Glorious Leader! US developers to launch North Korea, the video game
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Naer
on 23/12/2014, 23:42:33 UTC
I want nothing to do with this game. Im not searching for beef with the great peoples nation of north korea
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Re: the guy who started IKEA
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Naer
on 23/12/2014, 21:49:17 UTC
40% of the worlds wealth owned by the elite 1%
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Not sure if i should go note 4 or iphone 6
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on 23/12/2014, 21:42:09 UTC
Don't have a phone. If i didn't have an ipad already id def get note 4, but if i go iphone 6, it would sync with my ipad

Help me decide
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Re: How do you want to die?
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Naer
on 23/12/2014, 18:57:49 UTC
Im not gonna die. My consciousness will be transfered to a super computer in the future. Srs