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Re: [ANN] leonArdo - Bitcoin Trading Bot for Poloniex, Bittrex, Bitstamp, Bitfinex..
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Namroc Smith
on 06/05/2017, 20:46:41 UTC
No worries, your answers are better  Grin


One newbie helping another here, so I will do my best.  First I would say watch the videos in the first post, the interface is a bit different, but the concepts are the same.  Secondly start learning with the ping pong until you get the hang of how this works.  It has far less options, since it is a simple process, but it is a great way to use your existing trading knowledge to learn the interface.

As for your points:

1:  It doesn't track this now, or at least it doesn't show it.  It has been requested a lot.
2:  Read area is the selling area, it is limited by your settings.  The videos show how to change this.  Generally if you have mostly empty rules it tries to sell around the dotted line at the bottom of the red area.
3:  Lower blue is buy area, again see videos.  Generally if you have mostly empty rules it tries to buy around the dotted line at the top of the blue area.
4:  Again, see the videos for a coverage of the settings.  Also remember they can't give trading advice so you will have to seek that out elsewhere or do some trial and error.
5:  This tells the job your expected profit or loss from the run.  0% or positive means the job must create a trade in your margins that will at least yield that % of profit, however it can get blocked since sometimes you need to take a loss to keep going.  Going negative allows for loss to occur in the hopes you make it back up.  Something that needs some experience to use correctly.
6:  No, however it can create a trade that can't be filled (market moved outside your limits) or it cannot meet your min effective.
7:  Yes that is for first trade for that bot, for that session.  Make sure to check this, I have done the double buy mistake before.

Biggest thing to remember is that there aren't magic numbers to make it work, and each market IS different.  

Just saw your answer now. Thanks!!
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Re: [ANN] leonArdo - Bitcoin Trading Bot for Poloniex, Bittrex, Bitstamp, Bitfinex..
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Namroc Smith
on 06/05/2017, 20:33:33 UTC
Hey,
Im very new to (any) trading software. So far I just bought and sale manually in long term, so thats why I have some(maybe very stupid) questions. I was searching for a tutorial that explains "every button" but I cant find it. I know there is a "help context" but that doesnt help in all cases:

The software is running now, for 2x app. 12 hours and it seems that it does the job well. It onl ycan seem to me, because I dont no really what Im doing...but i t works Wink

1.  There is this Profit/Loss: But thats only shows "margin trading" result? Is there a conclusion somewhere , to see profits/loss from the exchange?
2. WHat happen in the red area?
3. What happens in the upper and lower blue area? I know its called "by margin" and "sell margin" <-- but thats not "margin trading" right? *confused*
4. Is there a generell "sell/buy margin" settings, that suppose to be more safe or risky?
5. The "minm. effective gain". I can read what the context menue tells me, but I dont understand it. If I put it on 20% what happens? Is it for the whole time, for any bet?
6. Does the bot stopp at some point trading? After a period of time? Or trades?
7. "Start with / sell/buy" Is that just the first trade, or a longterm setting?

Do you know any tutorials that helps my confusion? If seen tha tits from leonArdo, bunt it looks its for people that allready knows the "trading system".

btw, is that the thread ok to ask? Or is there a dummy section somewhere?

thx

One newbie helping another here, so I will do my best.  First I would say watch the videos in the first post, the interface is a bit different, but the concepts are the same.  Secondly start learning with the ping pong until you get the hang of how this works.  It has far less options, since it is a simple process, but it is a great way to use your existing trading knowledge to learn the interface.

As for your points:

1:  It doesn't track this now, or at least it doesn't show it.  It has been requested a lot.
2:  Read area is the selling area, it is limited by your settings.  The videos show how to change this.  Generally if you have mostly empty rules it tries to sell around the dotted line at the bottom of the red area.
3:  Lower blue is buy area, again see videos.  Generally if you have mostly empty rules it tries to buy around the dotted line at the top of the blue area.
4:  Again, see the videos for a coverage of the settings.  Also remember they can't give trading advice so you will have to seek that out elsewhere or do some trial and error.
5:  This tells the job your expected profit or loss from the run.  0% or positive means the job must create a trade in your margins that will at least yield that % of profit, however it can get blocked since sometimes you need to take a loss to keep going.  Going negative allows for loss to occur in the hopes you make it back up.  Something that needs some experience to use correctly.
6:  No, however it can create a trade that can't be filled (market moved outside your limits) or it cannot meet your min effective.
7:  Yes that is for first trade for that bot, for that session.  Make sure to check this, I have done the double buy mistake before.

Biggest thing to remember is that there aren't magic numbers to make it work, and each market IS different.  
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Re: [ANN] leonArdo - Bitcoin Trading Bot for Poloniex, Bittrex, Bitstamp, Bitfinex..
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Namroc Smith
on 05/05/2017, 21:22:53 UTC
Ok I brought up the app and left it alone with some markets up for about 60 minutes.  During this time I watched the updates and reviewed the data gathered to determine the refresh cycles each market did.  Quite interesting differences here.  On all of these the majority of the sync windows were on the long side and not the quick side.

BTC/USD

Quickest sync cycle:  12 seconds
Longest sync cycle:  13 minutes

RLC/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  10 seconds
Longest sync cycle:  3 minutes

LTC/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  1 second, saw lots coming in back to back
Longest sync cycle:  2 minutes
This one was a horrible sync cycle the other day during it's big run, this is actually the one that got me to notice the issue at first.

DASH/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  1 second, saw lots coming in back to back
Longest sync cycle:  3 minutes

STRAT/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  5 seconds
Longest sync cycle:  3 minutes

TRST/BTC

Quickest sync cycle:  2 minutes
Longest sync cycle:  5 minutes


To me it looks like an API issue with either some rate limiting being applied or just heavy use.  That being said there is nothing in the app side that would show me attempts to query the API and getting a failure.  When there is minute(s) between API refreshes, and there is vertical movement on the market the app cannot determine the correct places to place the buy/sell points since it is off considerable amounts during the fast movement cycles.
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Re: [ANN] leonArdo - Bitcoin Trading Bot for Poloniex, Bittrex, Bitstamp, Bitfinex..
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Namroc Smith
on 05/05/2017, 17:37:43 UTC
So this would be my only bot and the only thing hitting the API from me.  As I can see updates rolling in I would assume it is not a full blacklisting, also orders work just fine so that also leads to not being blacklisted.

Also keep in mind this is Bittrex based.

I checked again today and I can see the data all over the place still.  Some are 10 minutes behind, some are 5 minutes behind, some are 2 minutes, and some are less than 1 minute delay on the data.

Not an internal network issue, and not external (general connection) issues.  Also viewing Bittrex directly (web site) is at full speed.

Let me know if there is additional things I can provide for debug.

I'll put this out there too in case someone is thinking hardware specs:

Lenovo Ideapad 310-15IKB
Intel I7-7500U @ 2.70GHz
8GB Ram
64-bit Windows 10
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Re: [ANN] leonArdo - Bitcoin Trading Bot for Poloniex, Bittrex, Bitstamp, Bitfinex..
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Namroc Smith
on 05/05/2017, 00:23:00 UTC
Looking in the app running against Bittrex and I see there is quite a lag between where it thinks the market is and what the real time market is like.  I figured there is going to be lag of some sorts, but I am seeing up to 10 minutes of difference between real time and the app. 

What is the expected average lag the app was built around?  Anyone else seeing this kind of delta? 

I did notice that it is not the same delta on all markets, but my best one is averaged at 5 minutes of difference.
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Re: [ANN] leonArdo - Bitcoin Trading Bot for Poloniex, Bittrex, Bitstamp, Bitfinex..
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Namroc Smith
on 04/05/2017, 22:29:29 UTC
Didn't think about the CTRL+A, I will start doing that, but it would still be nice to have at least the typical "mark all read" button.

As for the other, yep that was a typo, you have it correct in your post.

New thoughts, is there a common bug/feature tracker that you have going public so we can see what all is being asked for and vote on it?
Also is there a work in progress list so we can see what to expect in the next release of the product?

Thanks
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Re: [ANN] leonArdo - Bitcoin Trading Bot for Poloniex, Bittrex, Bitstamp, Bitfinex..
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Namroc Smith
on 04/05/2017, 15:43:26 UTC
Hi there, loving the product.  I had some requests to think about for the devs:
  • Sounds (think this was mentioned before), having events trigger different sounds.
  • Hyperlinks, would be nice to click to exchange web site, or directly to the page for the coin.
  • On the notifications window, delete all and clear all.  I get the ability to multi-select, but a all action button would be nice.
  • For the wallet (all funds) window, when running on multiple monitors (all high DPI) and app is not on primary, the window renders off screen or partially off screen most of the time.  (Windows 10)
  • On the same subject, the status of the checkboxes on that screen should save state between sessions.
  • Final note on that is that the window should remember last position and size on close, at least in the same session.
  • Any type of running totals for the bots would be very nice to have.