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Another amazing step forward!
We implemented a new feature in our crypto app: you can now withdraw money from the app using a virtual credit card. The funds going to this prepaid card will be withdrawn from your crypto savings.
The process is quick and easy: a prepaid virtual credit card will be issued within the app and an access link will be sent to your email.
Make your Wish come true: use your virtual credit card to make your cashed-in Wish come true! You can also use it for online shopping, or to top up your balance on PayPal and similar services.
Enjoy
*The actual virtual credit card may look different than shown!
http://i63.tinypic.com/29z8pcw.jpg
We implemented a new feature in our crypto app: you can now withdraw money from the app using a virtual credit card. The funds going to this prepaid card will be withdrawn from your crypto savings.
The process is quick and easy: a prepaid virtual credit card will be issued within the app and an access link will be sent to your email.
Make your Wish come true: use your virtual credit card to make your cashed-in Wish come true! You can also use it for online shopping, or to top up your balance on PayPal and similar services.
Enjoy
*The actual virtual credit card may look different than shown!
http://i63.tinypic.com/29z8pcw.jpg
hopefully ur team learn a valuable lesson about "Not your keys, not your coins."
Ur cryptosaving apps without private keys that means i save money for u
Thank u
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In the next days, we'll invite 100K+ of our ICO participants to have exclusive access to the RC1 version before it's opened to the public.
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In the next days, we'll invite 100K+ of our ICO participants to have exclusive access to the RC1 version before it's opened to the public.
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100k+ ICO participants = more than 100.000 people who invested in your ICO?
There are only 22606 SVD-Holders/-Addresses:
https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdeb4b83251fb146687fa19d1c660f99411eefe3
never mind ... do not insist or refute what the team said, there is no point in the price of their tokens ... instead you will be called their haters🤭🤭,
so that it will gradually sink and disappear by itself🙄😂
My logic says it's too expensive just an application worth 50 million euros!
How can you compete with others?
Try to pay attention every week there are always several new applications on the tron, ethereum, eos platform which are of course free and can be used immediately. Their tokens are 50% free and can be directly traded on their dex.
How can you compete with them if your innovation is just an application which in my opinion is mediocre?
We need the team to answer this, but if you don't believe in their product, better stay away with it. How can you compete with others?
Try to pay attention every week there are always several new applications on the tron, ethereum, eos platform which are of course free and can be used immediately. Their tokens are 50% free and can be directly traded on their dex.
How can you compete with them if your innovation is just an application which in my opinion is mediocre?
At the current value, it also makes a lot of investors loss their money and maybe their dumping already to look for better alternative.
Unfortunately, not all investors look on the use case, they tend to get hype and just read the whitepaper and not comparing with the existing products in the market.
About svd application product, it's normal, not hating it and not trusting it either, I just think that the application lacks innovation, there is no good idea to create something new innovative, the product already exists before ico with only a few changes.
I also lost a lot in investing in this company.
The hype for svd has happened and it's been over a long time
My logic says it's too expensive just an application worth 50 million euros!
How can you compete with others?
Try to pay attention every week there are always several new applications on the tron, ethereum, eos platform which are of course free and can be used immediately. Their tokens are 50% free and can be directly traded on their dex.
How can you compete with them if your innovation is just an application which in my opinion is mediocre?
How can you compete with others?
Try to pay attention every week there are always several new applications on the tron, ethereum, eos platform which are of course free and can be used immediately. Their tokens are 50% free and can be directly traded on their dex.
How can you compete with them if your innovation is just an application which in my opinion is mediocre?
Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018
I think because trading competition conducted by Cobinhood occurs 2 x 10 (days).
Winners ranked 1-10 get svd token with a total of 288k tokens every day and that means the svd shares total of 5,760,000 free tokens.
And what happens at Cobinhood the traders sell and buy at the same price as the number of trading volumes up to billions of tokens every day, and there are no fees so they can do that without experiencing any losses at all and with one goal to be a winner in that competition.
I knew that because I was one of those who took part in the competition ... and became winner eventhough I was never able to reach ranks 1 through 3.
In my opinion trading competition using cobinhood that has no fee is to raise the volume of trade every day was good idea, because if you use hitbtc, the trading volume will not match the volume that has occurred in cobinhood, but it seems that there has been a strategic error that the SVD team might expect because trading volume in cobinhood has never been recorded in cmc, and that does not raise the ranking or prestige of savedroid
Ah, okay. That seems to be it - just compared the competition-announcement with the volume and it perfectly fits.
But anyway, my point was not that much about how exactly the volume was generated, if by wash-trading-bots or whatever, but that it wasn't natural daily volume as a result of real interest.
If we look at the SVD-markets there are several problems in my opinion:
1) Volume is low obivously
2) Price is about 94% below ICO-price or with other words: It would need x16 just to reach ICO-level again
3) I don't believe that Savedroid will get to that level out of own strength again
What would most likely help the price? A bull run like 2017. And I'm very optimistic that we'll see something like that again, but I doubt it will be in the next months.
Out of perspective of those who are invested (I'm not) and when a price has gone down hard, there are usually two ways while second often follows first:
1) First People often refuse to sell at a huge loss because that would realize it (it's a psychological barrier)
2) Some (and over time often a growing number of people) realize the loss to take other opportunities
All goes down to the simple question if Investors believe to have more chances to make it back by holding SVD, or selling it to put the money in something else. That in combination with 1) time, 2) increase of circulating supply over time, 3) watching other projects going up is likely to keep the price under pressure.
agree with your view👍👍
As long as there is no real improvement in this project, do not expect any growth in trading volume or token prices. there are only fake tricks to manipulate facts.
as investors who have felt a very big loss from this project will start selling their tokens in other words willing to accept the investment mistakes that have been made and glance at other projects with far more brilliant future
Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018
Just saw this tweet:
https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/1055850193411891202
They'll never learn it - check out the comments...
what is happening now is a fact that cannot be denied that there are no new investors who are interested in investing in this company, which of course due to their own actions that do not want to correct mistakes in the past, underestimate the community of investors who have buy their tokens along ico.https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/1055850193411891202
They'll never learn it - check out the comments...
Reporting unimportant things through their own social media.
Responding casually to critics accompanied by ridiculous gifs that should be inappropriate for a company that claims to be a world class developer with many smart people and stunning academic titles (professors, PhDs) who work in this company (they claim there are more than 5 people have PhD title)
And not only in telegram, they like to block critics, twitter and Facebook, they also start doing to silence critics or answers they don't like.
The question is whether this is intentionally done so that many people hate and then forget them so that later they can easily close the project as quickly as possible and leave it, so they can immediately open another project or behind another project.
Who knows🤐
Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018
This is not what I am watching for the first time, the way things are happening here. Last year was full of such things where money collected from ICO's was spent on trips and traveling to attend events. They want to drag time as long as possible until majority dump and move on to next projects and then they will pump it during next uptrend of these markets in few weeks or months.
we hope that Savedroid pumps their coins on the exchange in the next few months when the bullish moment arrives, the current price is cheap, which is 0.0007 $, this is an opportunity to buy
The total supply is nearly 7bn token, multiplied with $0.0007 the total value is at about $4.5 M.
True value is all about context and this is still an App and the token is not really necessary. But much more important: Savedroid needs licenses and Users of course. Both is hard to achieve with a history like they have. They often refer to criticism as FUD but their own projects and Investors suffer because they've started a huge FUD-campaign (Scam-PR-Stunt) first to break promises right after (Top5-exchange etc.).
Then there are other aspects:
1) If the idea/usecase of saving money into Crypto with a gamification approach (whenever trump tweets....) would have so much potential, guess who could develop something like that easily and probably much better besides an already running business: Exchanges. Simply because they already have the infrastructure in place.
2) It's already not that easy to trust a company that it securely manages Customer-funds without being hacked on day. I personally never leave anything for a longer time on exchanges for example. But if I would have to make a choice if I trust Binance or Bittrex or Coinbase - or Savedroid... I would never trust Savedroid to have high competence when it's about security.
3) When it's about the market situation: There are thousands of projects out there. Many are bad or even Scams but also many are quiet good, with skilled and professional teams. Many of the good ones are not able yet to make it on one of the top exchanges. But who will be picked first when it's about better listings? Projects with a clean history or Savedroid with it's Scam-Brand?
To make it short: This is not undervalued but in my opinion it's the opposite. Not only because of the Image but also because of it's fundamentals.
And just btw: There are so many really good projects out there that have done a much smaller ICO. The big winner of the past days on IDEX for example is Quant - a team of high level Cryptosecurity experts who have worked for governments and in Finance. They're building really unique Blockchain-infrastructure. They have raised about $11M. Coinlion - they are building a whole exchange and have raised about $7 M if I recall it correctly. Senno: Also an AI-project about sentiment analysis. They've raise only about $3M and even dropped in price after the ICO.
Savedroid raised about $50M for an App-project. That's ridiculous... What I don't get if I think about this and exclude the PR-Stunt and all the controversy is simply:
Why has nobody ever questioned how much the company is worth and why the token-economy should be valued much higher than the whole company? I don't know how much Savedroid as company is worth but I would think that it's not $10 M, maybe not even $5 M. They have not been successful before raising tons of money in Crypto but the opposite. So why would the total supply of the token be worth more?
Good opinion👍
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Thank you
Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018
Since Cobinhood gave up their wash-trading attempts, this is the real SVD-trading-volume on there:
https://i.imgur.com/LA8wftd.png
This was in September:
A short "market-report", because some interesting things are happening.
1) Volume
Who checks the volume on Coinmarketcap finds out that it is very low. Right now only about 6.400 EUR. But, who looks at the markets to see the numbers per exchange will see this:
https://i.imgur.com/pdgkCTn.png
The volume on Cobinhood is excluded because Cobinhood charges no fees. But the volume is not just higher than on other exchanges, it is 5700% of HitBTC.
Most interesting question is: Can that be real volume? I mean, one could say: Since trading is for free people simply trade much more.
Why I don't believe that: The other exchanges show that not many are interested in Savedroid. I know Shitcoins from 2014 which have a higher volume. And the orderbook shows: On the BTC pair only 25 M SVD are on the buyside. On the ETH pair: 30 M SVD. Even if all of that would be at the current price level that would only be about 35000 EUR. But most of it is much much lower (15 Million SVD below 3 SAT on the BTC pair for example).
So, where does the volume come from? My bet: It's wash trading, done by bots. Maybe it's the exchange that trades SVD they got from Savedroid to list the token back and forth or it is another entity.
What is Wash trading?
A wash trade is a form of market manipulation in which an investor simultaneously sells and buys the same financial instruments to create misleading, artificial activity in the marketplace.[1] First, an investor will place a sell order, then place a buy order to buy from himself, or vice versa. This may be done for a number of reasons:
To artificially increase trading volume, giving the impression that the instrument is more in demand than it actually is.[2]
(...) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wash_trade
It's not unusual in Crypto. Even Bitfinex is accused to do it with Tether (Bitfinex and Tether are owned by the same ppl). But it's misleading of course and actually not legal.
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I think because trading competition conducted by Cobinhood occurs 2 x 10 (days).
Winners ranked 1-10 get svd token with a total of 288k tokens every day and that means the svd shares total of 5,760,000 free tokens.
And what happens at Cobinhood the traders sell and buy at the same price as the number of trading volumes up to billions of tokens every day, and there are no fees so they can do that without experiencing any losses at all and with one goal to be a winner in that competition.
I knew that because I was one of those who took part in the competition ... and became winner eventhough I was never able to reach ranks 1 through 3.
In my opinion trading competition using cobinhood that has no fee is to raise the volume of trade every day was good idea, because if you use hitbtc, the trading volume will not match the volume that has occurred in cobinhood, but it seems that there has been a strategic error that the SVD team might expect because trading volume in cobinhood has never been recorded in cmc, and that does not raise the ranking or prestige of savedroid
Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018
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what product?
The product to collect money again with the arbitrary fee? or collect more money from users without being able to withdraw?
Your product is an old product that is outdated and expanded for crypto use which also cannot be used properly.
What focus? you only give false hope and an empty dream
You need people who are smart with salaries to be sure to benefit from repairing existing damage caused by your own greed.
Of course it is very necessary partnership between companies that really have experience in this field.
Note
Especially the most important thing is to stop lying and make false promises with various fraudulent tricks to the community, token buyers and users of your application
The product to collect money again with the arbitrary fee? or collect more money from users without being able to withdraw?
Your product is an old product that is outdated and expanded for crypto use which also cannot be used properly.
What focus? you only give false hope and an empty dream
You need people who are smart with salaries to be sure to benefit from repairing existing damage caused by your own greed.
Of course it is very necessary partnership between companies that really have experience in this field.
Note
Especially the most important thing is to stop lying and make false promises with various fraudulent tricks to the community, token buyers and users of your application
We are still in the beta progress and we are expanding the content/services every day. The public release is planned for Q1 2019 and we will extend and improve our product/services for sure. One of the next features (of course) is the withdrawal function / AI implementation. We're focused on the product and service development. In addition, we are working on other b2b partnerships, exchange listings and constantly expanding our team. In addition, we have already increased the news frequency. We can inform you in the best possible way. In spontaneous and simple way.
As long as I can't control my private key, it's also easy for me to control it by the creator of the application, and if the app maker intends to me, I can't do anything, how can I save my funds to a company that is the past has a history of doing their own thing with the funds of their token buyers, and can do whatever they want to close and open smart contracts without any reason or reasonable explanation.
In my opinion by looking at all this, honestly your company is trying to raise public funds again by creating old applications like the ones that once existed with only a few changes to be able to cover crypto.
note
What you are promoting about artificial intelligence made by your team is something that is of no use as long as the control holder is your company and not the owner of the funds.
After all, I am smarter than your artificial intelligence, which is full of trickery tricks
Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018
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A short "market-report", because some interesting things are happening.
1) Volume
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That mean will become DeadToken develop by svd?
Yes the day dump hard, price of svd almost zero
0.0000002 eth!
No, I don't think it will die any time soon. See, there are two kinds of "dead":
1) "Walking Dead" --> A project is still listed on some exchanges and traded with very low volume but the team has given up and it's not under real development anymore.
2) Dead --> A project is also not listed and traded anymore
Savedroid will not be delisted and the team will also not give it up anytime soon. They have so much money, they can keep on for years without running out of funding.
But there are several other problems in my opinion.
1) Team: I don't believe in this team. They don't seem to be competent, they are very bad communicators, they've proven not to act honest and transparent, whenever they had the choice between several different ways to do something, they consequently chose the worst one.
2) Market:
a) SVD would need a better exchange and as everybody knows, the team used the announcement of a top5 to promote their ICO and they still pretend to have an agreement. I don't believe they have this agreement and after all the shit they've done and the low volume, I also don't believe that this will be listed on any of the bigger exchanges.
b) This project is not very interesting for Crypto-Guys. That's another reason why the buyside is very thin. I don't believe that will change because of 1)... Plus: There are so many projects with a lot of potential out there that I wouldn't know why anybody would pick this one. And those who may be interested will start to do research and find all the scam-topics and back off.
3) Economics:
a) It's still not cheap. The current price has to be multiplied with the total amount to get the total value: about $5.2 M. It's very cheap in comparison to the ICO price but that only shows how ridiculous overvalued this was, especially if calculated in $.
Total supply: 6.997.578.543 SVD
ICO-price in EUR: 0.01
ICO-price in Dollar: 0.012
Total Supply * ICO Price in $ = $83.9 Million!
It's completely crazy that they have been able to sell this at such a high price. I mean, the whole company is probably not even worth $10 M but a utility token for a not existing business should already be......??
b) What many may not see at the moment is: The price went down while only a fraction of supply is tradable yet. More and more SVD will flow on the exchanges once it becomes unrestricted. That is no inflation if focused on the total supply, but it like inflation for the market - and for the price only that matters.
But: If/Once the whole market turns into a new bull run it's likely that also SVD will rise in price. Last year I've seen really dead coins go to $30 M marketcaps and some even higher. I personally wouldn't hold SVD because of that, simply because I believe there are better opportunities out there, especially a lot of good projects are down at the moment. But under the line I think it is possible that the price will recover, even if the project would not get traction as a business model.
quote author=savedroid link=topic=2578161.msg46677347#msg46677347 date=1539074719]
We are not planning any financial report yet. We want to focus on product development first. Later we'll maybe decide to report something. But not now.
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what product?
The product to collect money again with the arbitrary fee? or collect more money from users without being able to withdraw?
Your product is an old product that is outdated and expanded for crypto use which also cannot be used properly.
What focus? you only give false hope and an empty dream
You need people who are smart with salaries to be sure to benefit from repairing existing damage caused by your own greed.
Of course it is very necessary partnership between companies that really have experience in this field.
Note
Especially the most important thing is to stop lying and make false promises with various fraudulent tricks to the community, token buyers and users of your application
A short "market-report", because some interesting things are happening.
1) Volume
(....)
That mean will become DeadToken develop by svd?
Yes the day dump hard, price of svd almost zero
0.0000002 eth!
No, I don't think it will die any time soon. See, there are two kinds of "dead":
1) "Walking Dead" --> A project is still listed on some exchanges and traded with very low volume but the team has given up and it's not under real development anymore.
2) Dead --> A project is also not listed and traded anymore
Savedroid will not be delisted and the team will also not give it up anytime soon. They have so much money, they can keep on for years without running out of funding.
But there are several other problems in my opinion.
1) Team: I don't believe in this team. They don't seem to be competent, they are very bad communicators, they've proven not to act honest and transparent, whenever they had the choice between several different ways to do something, they consequently chose the worst one.
2) Market:
a) SVD would need a better exchange and as everybody knows, the team used the announcement of a top5 to promote their ICO and they still pretend to have an agreement. I don't believe they have this agreement and after all the shit they've done and the low volume, I also don't believe that this will be listed on any of the bigger exchanges.
b) This project is not very interesting for Crypto-Guys. That's another reason why the buyside is very thin. I don't believe that will change because of 1)... Plus: There are so many projects with a lot of potential out there that I wouldn't know why anybody would pick this one. And those who may be interested will start to do research and find all the scam-topics and back off.
3) Economics:
a) It's still not cheap. The current price has to be multiplied with the total amount to get the total value: about $5.2 M. It's very cheap in comparison to the ICO price but that only shows how ridiculous overvalued this was, especially if calculated in $.
Total supply: 6.997.578.543 SVD
ICO-price in EUR: 0.01
ICO-price in Dollar: 0.012
Total Supply * ICO Price in $ = $83.9 Million!
It's completely crazy that they have been able to sell this at such a high price. I mean, the whole company is probably not even worth $10 M but a utility token for a not existing business should already be......??
b) What many may not see at the moment is: The price went down while only a fraction of supply is tradable yet. More and more SVD will flow on the exchanges once it becomes unrestricted. That is no inflation if focused on the total supply, but it like inflation for the market - and for the price only that matters.
But: If/Once the whole market turns into a new bull run it's likely that also SVD will rise in price. Last year I've seen really dead coins go to $30 M marketcaps and some even higher. I personally wouldn't hold SVD because of that, simply because I believe there are better opportunities out there, especially a lot of good projects are down at the moment. But under the line I think it is possible that the price will recover, even if the project would not get traction as a business model.
We are not planning any financial report yet. We want to focus on product development first. Later we'll maybe decide to report something. But not now.
[/quote]
what product?
The product to collect money again with the arbitrary fee? or collect more money from users without being able to withdraw?
Your product is an old product that is outdated and expanded for crypto use which also cannot be used properly.
What focus? you only give false hope and an empty dream
You need people who are smart with salaries to be sure to benefit from repairing existing damage caused by your own greed.
Of course it is very necessary partnership between companies that really have experience in this field.
Note
Especially the most important thing is to stop lying and make false promises with various fraudulent tricks to the community, token buyers and users of your application
Re: Tron(TRX) is the top 3 cryptocurrency in the market - trading volume
I do not think I ever heard that coins that are in the top 15 in cmc by trading volume are indicated by fraud. I used to think that way, garbage coins, duplicate white paper, very unattractive projects. Last week since their mainnet announcement, the acquisition of bittorent ... it caught my attention ... and started researching what justin had done to this tron project and tried their wallet by using my ledger ... I think trx is pretty exciting right now .. but not for full investment there but trying to start small investment while looking at further developments
HODL tron, u can earn trx everyday ! Interesting👍
Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018
Hello everyone, we weren't active for a short time, but now we're back on the Bitcointalk and we would like to answer for some of your questions
1. Our development team is working on the Crypto Saving App beta for the IOS. Were working on it for many months to give you the most reliable piece of software engineering that will take care of your savings in a best possible way. Also, our design team works on the new, fresh design of UI, flow and positive experience for the user
2. Data science department of savedroid is built by experts in Neuroscience, AI and Machine Learning. They are talented and skillful professionals. The Chief Data Officer whos responsible for the AI department is Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolic, the internationally recognized expert in the field of Neuroscience. You could meet him at AI Meetup which was in Frankfurt last week. In the team there are also two other very well educated specialists. Work of one of them, Dr. Gautam Kumar Pramanik was just released on one of the top scientific journals on Earth, Nature Neuroscience! Bringing the best possible solutions for our users is our key purpose in savedroid.
3. We know that we could lost some of the trust that we get before the ICO stunt, but were working on regaining it. We decided to give you more information in a shorter period of time, so youll have better insight into what is happening inside our startup. The new format of Selfie videos and AMA with experts on different topics will definitely assure you that on savedroid app work the biggest experts.
4. Were aware of the low price of the SVD Token and were definitely not making any non-legal manipulations that would harm your trust in us. We want to focus on adding new features to our crypto app.
ni1. Our development team is working on the Crypto Saving App beta for the IOS. Were working on it for many months to give you the most reliable piece of software engineering that will take care of your savings in a best possible way. Also, our design team works on the new, fresh design of UI, flow and positive experience for the user
2. Data science department of savedroid is built by experts in Neuroscience, AI and Machine Learning. They are talented and skillful professionals. The Chief Data Officer whos responsible for the AI department is Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolic, the internationally recognized expert in the field of Neuroscience. You could meet him at AI Meetup which was in Frankfurt last week. In the team there are also two other very well educated specialists. Work of one of them, Dr. Gautam Kumar Pramanik was just released on one of the top scientific journals on Earth, Nature Neuroscience! Bringing the best possible solutions for our users is our key purpose in savedroid.
3. We know that we could lost some of the trust that we get before the ICO stunt, but were working on regaining it. We decided to give you more information in a shorter period of time, so youll have better insight into what is happening inside our startup. The new format of Selfie videos and AMA with experts on different topics will definitely assure you that on savedroid app work the biggest experts.
4. Were aware of the low price of the SVD Token and were definitely not making any non-legal manipulations that would harm your trust in us. We want to focus on adding new features to our crypto app.
Hello everyone, we weren't active for a short time, but now we're back on the Bitcointalk and we would like to answer for some of your questions
1. Our development team is working on the Crypto Saving App beta for the IOS. Were working on it for many months to give you the most reliable piece of software engineering that will take care of your savings in a best possible way. Also, our design team works on the new, fresh design of UI, flow and positive experience for the user
2. Data science department of savedroid is built by experts in Neuroscience, AI and Machine Learning. They are talented and skillful professionals. The Chief Data Officer whos responsible for the AI department is Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolic, the internationally recognized expert in the field of Neuroscience. You could meet him at AI Meetup which was in Frankfurt last week. In the team there are also two other very well educated specialists. Work of one of them, Dr. Gautam Kumar Pramanik was just released on one of the top scientific journals on Earth, Nature Neuroscience! Bringing the best possible solutions for our users is our key purpose in savedroid.
3. We know that we could lost some of the trust that we get before the ICO stunt, but were working on regaining it. We decided to give you more information in a shorter period of time, so youll have better insight into what is happening inside our startup. The new format of Selfie videos and AMA with experts on different topics will definitely assure you that on savedroid app work the biggest experts.
4. Were aware of the low price of the SVD Token and were definitely not making any non-legal manipulations that would harm your trust in us. We want to focus on adding new features to our crypto app.
1. Our development team is working on the Crypto Saving App beta for the IOS. Were working on it for many months to give you the most reliable piece of software engineering that will take care of your savings in a best possible way. Also, our design team works on the new, fresh design of UI, flow and positive experience for the user
2. Data science department of savedroid is built by experts in Neuroscience, AI and Machine Learning. They are talented and skillful professionals. The Chief Data Officer whos responsible for the AI department is Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolic, the internationally recognized expert in the field of Neuroscience. You could meet him at AI Meetup which was in Frankfurt last week. In the team there are also two other very well educated specialists. Work of one of them, Dr. Gautam Kumar Pramanik was just released on one of the top scientific journals on Earth, Nature Neuroscience! Bringing the best possible solutions for our users is our key purpose in savedroid.
3. We know that we could lost some of the trust that we get before the ICO stunt, but were working on regaining it. We decided to give you more information in a shorter period of time, so youll have better insight into what is happening inside our startup. The new format of Selfie videos and AMA with experts on different topics will definitely assure you that on savedroid app work the biggest experts.
4. Were aware of the low price of the SVD Token and were definitely not making any non-legal manipulations that would harm your trust in us. We want to focus on adding new features to our crypto app.
why do you claim that savedroid developer announces something outside the topic of your work?
Is your technology just like that? announce the superiority of individual work that clearly has nothing to do with what you are doing.
Try to explain in this forum, what technology do you have so that you make an announcement as if you have science technology that can be compared with the technology owned by cardano, ethereum, iota
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Do not discuss about the application that you are proud of, which in my opinion is not worthless at all, because people buy crypto currencies are their own will not be helped to buy and store them in companies that have lost this kind of public trust
Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018
Developer said they would not to buyback, even though only a plan to buy back, then what do we expect?
Nothing...
What developers are proud of is just one application product that has not been functioning properly and is very very unattractive, there are even indications of fraud by withdrawing money from customers to store in companies that are no longer worthy to be trusted ...
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is there anyone here who is willing to give me a merit, I will really appreciate and thank you, because I was demoted to a newbie because of the new policy of bitcointalk🙄😂🙏🙏🙏🙏
Nothing...
What developers are proud of is just one application product that has not been functioning properly and is very very unattractive, there are even indications of fraud by withdrawing money from customers to store in companies that are no longer worthy to be trusted ...
*Note
is there anyone here who is willing to give me a merit, I will really appreciate and thank you, because I was demoted to a newbie because of the new policy of bitcointalk🙄😂🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hello Dear $XLM community! Important news!!! StellarTerm is shutting down on October 1 2018. https://stellarterm.com
Development of StellarTerm is unable to keep up with the latest developments of the Stellar network and can't provide the best experience that users all deserve. Unfortunately, due to lack of funding and dev time, StellarTerm will be shutting down.
On October 1 2018, the web app and StellarTerm API will no longer be available. For alternatives, consider checking out Stronghold, stellarx, or the other wallets listed on https://www.stellar.org/lumens/wallets StellarTerm is not affiliated with these services. It is important to have time to withdraw $XLM to another wallet!
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Development of StellarTerm is unable to keep up with the latest developments of the Stellar network and can't provide the best experience that users all deserve. Unfortunately, due to lack of funding and dev time, StellarTerm will be shutting down.
On October 1 2018, the web app and StellarTerm API will no longer be available. For alternatives, consider checking out Stronghold, stellarx, or the other wallets listed on https://www.stellar.org/lumens/wallets StellarTerm is not affiliated with these services. It is important to have time to withdraw $XLM to another wallet!
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no need to withdraw xlm because xlm native seed is stored on blockchain.👌
1% a year paid on every tuesday morning 08.00 +7 gmt
Is that forever, or does the inflation have an end date when a final number of coins will be reached?
That is forever until xlm doesnt not exist or they change privacy policy
Ok, thanks!
My pleasure😇🙄
1% a year paid on every tuesday morning 08.00 +7 gmt
Is that forever, or does the inflation have an end date when a final number of coins will be reached?
That is forever until xlm doesnt not exist or they change privacy policy
Even if he is not a good guy that was a good post. It is important for people to know that there are 35-36 new people that can give merit As a source. He mentioned it and gets my points.
Totally your judgement man. Not questioning that. I am just pointing out that it is unfair to hundreds of those posters who get lost in the din because someone like toheed2x spams 1000 reports in the time a serious poster would actually manage to post much less. If the post histories are taken as a reference, then at least the deserving ones get a better chance. Those who just "woke up because of rules change" should have to wait a little longer.
I would just prefer that the "good guys" get more of a chance than the "not a good guys"..
So shared my opinion with you.Of course as do I .
but when I give out points they will not be to people asking for them. which neither person I gave points to today were asking.
I will sift through about 5 to 10 people a day that were jrs and were demoted.
I will ask if anyone would make that list and post it in this thread I won't give you any merits for doing it.
But the list would help me and others like me look at the demoted people's posts.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2099348
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1855287
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1925023
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1821639
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1393506
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2169483
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1911471
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2110024
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2226189
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2112621
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1136975
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1931495
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2146224
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2032982
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1256570
Me demoted too
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1906656
How should we do to get merit if people wont to give it?
Pay member?🤔
Re: [ANN][ICO] savedroid ICO - CRYPTOCURRENCIES FOR EVERYONE | MAIN SALE 9 FEB 2018
A short "market-report", because some interesting things are happening.
1) Volume
Who checks the volume on Coinmarketcap finds out that it is very low. Right now only about 6.400 EUR. But, who looks at the markets to see the numbers per exchange will see this:
https://i.imgur.com/pdgkCTn.png
The volume on Cobinhood is excluded because Cobinhood charges no fees. But the volume is not just higher than on other exchanges, it is 5700% of HitBTC.
Most interesting question is: Can that be real volume? I mean, one could say: Since trading is for free people simply trade much more.
Why I don't believe that: The other exchanges show that not many are interested in Savedroid. I know Shitcoins from 2014 which have a higher volume. And the orderbook shows: On the BTC pair only 25 M SVD are on the buyside. On the ETH pair: 30 M SVD. Even if all of that would be at the current price level that would only be about 35000 EUR. But most of it is much much lower (15 Million SVD below 3 SAT on the BTC pair for example).
So, where does the volume come from? My bet: It's wash trading, done by bots. Maybe it's the exchange that trades SVD they got from Savedroid to list the token back and forth or it is another entity.
What is Wash trading?
A wash trade is a form of market manipulation in which an investor simultaneously sells and buys the same financial instruments to create misleading, artificial activity in the marketplace.[1] First, an investor will place a sell order, then place a buy order to buy from himself, or vice versa. This may be done for a number of reasons:
To artificially increase trading volume, giving the impression that the instrument is more in demand than it actually is.[2]
(...) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wash_trade
It's not unusual in Crypto. Even Bitfinex is accused to do it with Tether (Bitfinex and Tether are owned by the same ppl). But it's misleading of course and actually not legal.
2) Price
Yesterday something interesting happened:
https://i.imgur.com/EUgir3D.png
That dump sent the price nearly to zero (about 0.000028 EUR) - with only 12 Million SVD.
Two scenarios:
1) Somebody simply wanted to get out. Without thinking about how to do it smart, he sold 12 Million SVD at a huge loss because a lot of it was sold significantly below the current price while it would have been possible to sell 12 Million with a little bit more patience and not only the ETH-pair without losing so much money.
2) A wash-trading-bot went crazy...
I don't know what it really was. Scenario 1 is possible because there are enough people who bought into SVD without having any experience, or maybe somebody was mad as hell and just wanted to crash the price or whatever. But.... stupid of course. Scenario 2: Bots don't always work as intended and that the volume is no real trading is a pretty safe guess in my opinion.
3) Cobinhood has influence on the price, not the best one...
But, what I actually want to show is: Whatever happens on Cobinhood with SVD doesn't help the price. It's the opposite. A second look on the first screenshot above shows: Prices on the Cobinhood-pairs are below other exchanges. With other words: The high(er) volume, in comparison to other exchanges SVD is listed on, would indicate high interest. If that would be real the price should reflect that as well. The liquidity is low, so the price actually should be above the prices on other exchanges. Why is that not the case?
A potential scenario could be this: Wash-trading, done by bots, is happening. The higher volume attracts real Investors but more of those who want out. So they choose to sell their SVD on Cobinhood and whenever somebody sells into the buys, the price goes down. Bots adjust and place their orders at lower prices as well. With other words: They would help to suppress the price even more. Other exchanges follow the leading exchange by volume and price circles down.
If I'm right, everybody who would be interested in higher prices can say a big "thank you" to whomever does this funny moves on Cobinhood.
The Chart looks this way - new All-Time-Low:
https://i.imgur.com/dvxOKJZ.png
That mean will become DeadToken develop by svd?
Yes the day dump hard, price of svd almost zero
0.0000002 eth!