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Re: [15BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | 48Hr Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 120% Payout
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 23:42:41 UTC
Why are there so many threads? Can't you just stick with 1 or 2? Its getting a bit excessive...
Any news on the bug fixes?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=921851.0 - Weekly Game Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=924088.0 - 48 Hour Game Thread

The bugs are all fixed.
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Re: [35BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | Weekly Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 130% Payout
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 23:36:37 UTC
Thread unlocked for weekly game discussion
48hr game: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=924088.0

Some people have already put money into 48 hour... (The address is up?)
What happens to there BTC?
Keep up the good work by the way. I can tell you guys are working hard to get this going smoothly.

lol probably the owners that depoed 1st
All fees we make have so far been reinvested to speed up the program. That is the only time we have deposited. We started this program with 0BTC for a reason and that is so we can't cheat our users.
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[15BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | 48Hr Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 120% Payout
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 23:29:22 UTC
This thread is for the discussion of the 48 Hour game. For the Weekly game, click the following link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=921851.240

NextPonzi.com - The Best Automated Bitcoin Game
If you invest, we encourage you post your TXID for transparency reasons.

48hr Game Address: 1NExt48hXN8whxhoYsSJHbVCVDSP3g6rEz
48hr Game Link: NextPonzi 48Hour Game

Frequently Asked Questions Under Thread. Click the image to go to site!
URL: https://nextponzi.com/48game.php

Main Features:
-- SSL Security
-- DDOS Protection
-- 100% Automated. We never store more than 2BTC in the hot wallet (as 1.5btc x 1.3 = 1.95BTC), as all returns are sent REALTIME and INSTANTLY (precisely every 60 seconds to prevent server stress)!

48hr Game:
-- Lasts 2 days
-- Offers 120% Payouts
-- Maximum 0.5BTC Deposit
-- Minimum 0.001BTC Deposit

We have noticed a lot of sites popping up (and even some sites simply saying "send your coins here"), we decided to make one that works and stays true to its word. Many are claiming to be instant or automated without being so, We are most definitely automated and instant, and our custom script will prove so!

http://i.imgur.com/ay8DSbu.png

Frequently Asked Questions:
How does NextPonzi Work?
Follow instructions on the homepage, send bitcoin to 1NeXTv16ocLvUMYvNjXqkb6b1xMzbeCi2p and you will be placed in queue to get back 130% of your deposit. The returns on your investment come from other investors, so as long as people invest after you, you will be paid!

What exactly is Next Ponzi?
NextPonzi.com provides a public ponzi game via Bitcoin. At the end of each week (0:00 GMT+0) the Ponzi program will end and another one will begin. Beware, this is a gamble based game! Investors at the bottom of the queue may not be paid.

When do rounds reset?
See the countdowns on each game to see when the round ends.

How can I be sure you will not run with funds?
All activity is logged on the BlockChain. Simply click our address on the homepage to view all activity. Since all payouts are made automatically, it would be impossible for us to run with anymore than the maximum investment. It would also be impossible to take funds without the whole world seeing.

The round has ended but I have not been repaid? What happened to my bitcoin?
As mentioned earlier participating in in a ponzi is a gamble. Sometimes you will come out on top, other times you will miss out on the return. The only solution is to try again next game!

Why can't I see my transaction?
Transactions with one confirmation only are shown on the table to prevent double spending which can potentially ruin the game.

How long does it take to receive the payout?
This depends on the wallet balance and how many people have deposited.

Can I use an Exchange or Shared Wallet for Next Ponzi?
If you use a exchange or shared wallet, you will not receive the payout to your address as you do not have control of this address. Blockchain.info addresses are perfectly fine.

How does the owner benefit?
NextPonzi takes a VERY SMALL 4% fee. You will still receive 130%/120% (depending on the game you play), this fee is added to the total needed for payouts.

Is there any support?
For security purposes, We only offer PUBLIC forum support via BitcoinTalk.

I have a question that was not answered here.
Click "Forum" and write a post to us. We will respond as soon as possible.
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Re: Regarding Ponzi Sites -- Requesting some attention (not another section thread)
by
NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 22:10:55 UTC
If you ignore the fact that you are running a ponzi (this is a ponzi), then the negative trust is still appropiate.

Your "game" is not fair to players: there is no way to verify that appropiate players are receiving a payout. I haven't looked real closely at how your "game" works, however I assume it determins who gets paid something similar to the early players profit while the later players get nothing. Even if you used the first blocks that confirmed transactions you could easily use your own money (via mixers) to play early on this would make it so the majority of plays would end up loosing.

There is no real way to "verify" bets. In addition to the above you need to be trusted that appropiate players get payout. Even prime dice, which is arguably the most reputable Bitcoin casino here allows players to verify their bets to prove they received appropiate payments.

You are asking players to trust you with large amounts of money while you have no reputation. Mu believe your first post was creating your game. This is very similar to a brand new user asking to be trusted with a short term loan.

You clearly are not new to the forum based on how quickly you made it to meta and how familar you are with the trust system. This means that you are either a scammer (and should not be trusted) or plan on eventually scamming and want to protect your existing accounts reputation when you eventually run away with investor money. I am sure you knew you would probably get negative trust the hour you started your game however, a reputable member could potentially provide a history of "honesty" with their game to get it removed. I somewhat thing it is the former. I somewhat doubt that badbear will confirm or deny this, however I would speculate that you can be linked to either a scammer or are using An IP masking service like tor or a vpn.

There was recently a ponzi that was "honest" with players for a while (a few weeks) and had over 700 BTC move through their address. This built up a lot of confidence with their game allowing them to quickly accumulate large amounts of Bitcoin very quickly which means if they delayed payouts even a short time then they could run away with large amounts of Bitcoin. The end game in these ponzis is to run away once enough confidence is built up.

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^^^^ signed

What can I possibly add after this? Quickseller perfectly summed it up. There is no such thing as a legit ponzi. Same as a thimblerigger you are allways in full control, never is the other party risking their money.

If you actually think that Ponzis are a legit form of gambling, why do you hide behind your alt?

And another question: where do you come from? I wonder if this is some cultural thing.

Edit:

Id like to post some recent quotes your "happy" customers left:

deposits increased from 13x to 148, the remaining btc for next payout reset like 3 times, and the line on the website hasn't moved since around noon... what's up with that?

Also why don't you make this honestly, you will make more money from fees than dishonesty, i.e. payouts it supposed to be equal to deposits unless there
is not enough to cover next payout, I really do not know what is wrong with some people i.e. OP


Remove "Round resets SOON" from front page, for gods sake... there is a timer
you are practically invite investors to not invest...

and last deposit 16ifqeioagCULqdxiHCtky4U3qxZ9i2svp 0.01984432
says "Return paid", but in the blockchain is not paid

And this:

"Your partner" apparently "yelled" at someone and removed the post. You dont even know about this.
Strike that, might honestly been faked.
You are both missing the point
Again: if Bitcointalk were all on 0 trust how would we know who are scammers and who are not?
Same thing with the ponzi section.
Secondly we can't hold more than 1.95btc at a time on our site I've said this time and time again
That's why myself and weekly ponzi do not deserve these ratings.

As for those quotes, this is what happened when you don't have a self moderated thread. People FUD and trash the shit out of it. That's not our fault and we can't do anything about it sadly. bt234 is a FUD,and in all honesty I don't know what the other two quotes are talking about (I've been asleep so maybe my dev edited the site to fix those errors)

Either way, you better read this thread properly you are both missing my point
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Re: Regarding Ponzi Sites -- Requesting some attention (not another section thread)
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 13:41:23 UTC
@OP You are only half right. You are trying to argue that a ponzi can be legitimate. A ponzi, by definition, cannot be legitimate.

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A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, the fraudsters focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier-stage investors to create the false appearance that investors are profiting from a legitimate business.

Problem is, you are calling yourself a ponzi when you aren't.

SEC isn't likely to be so enlightened though, so don't be surprised when they bust down your door.
I would like to know, what would we should call our program?
I doubt the SEC will confront us as we clearly state people can lose their money therefor this isn't a scam nor is it fraud.

You obviously did not read the thread at all, thanks for proving that to everyone.
1. My site makes more from fees than what it possibly can scamming (max in wallet is 1.95BTC at a time)
2. The goal is not to run away with the money. Since the site is instant and there is no incline in our balance at all, it's not a confidence scam or anything like that.

You're wrong, sorry.

I've no idea what type of service you run and you provided no information about it in this thread. If you're not running a ponzi, then don't call yourself a ponzi and people might not call you a scammer. Not exactly rocket science is it?

No, you're not understanding what we do.
We run a ponzi GAME. We clearly state it is a gamble and take a 4% fee for the game (just like a house edge).
What happens is people deposit their BTC and the first person who invested gets paid the second persons funds ect. We offer 130% (1.3x your deposit) per "bet"
Example:
Person A sends .1BTC
Person B sends .2BTC
Person A gets paid .13BTC as promised instantly, most scams make you wait
Wallet is now at .07BTC
Person B will get paid when more deposits make the wallet reach .26BTC

This cycle continues until the round ends. Rounds are set at specific end times.
Those who remain unpaid at the end of the round lose.

It's a gamble just like any other site.

A Ponzi scheme would do this but not have a set end date and would wait until they collect a large amount of funds and run off. It is not possible for us to do this as the site is 100% automatic, so it isn't possible for us to do if.
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Re: Regarding Ponzi Sites -- Requesting some attention (not another section thread)
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 11:42:38 UTC
How are you going to separate the SCAMS from the PAYING if you think like this and leave you trust ratings based on this state of mind? You won't. You are causing peoples funds to be robbed just as bad as the scammers who intend on doing so. I highly recommend you rethink that state of mind, or else you are going to cause a lot of people to lose their coins

It doesn't matter whether a ponzi is currently paying out or have already ran away with the money. It's a scam because the goal is to run away with the money.

I label myself as a ponzi, that's how the game works, exactly like a ponzi. I'm not arguing this fact at all.

Then you label yourself a scammer which is fine because that's what you are - a scammer running a ponzi.
You obviously did not read the thread at all, thanks for proving that to everyone.
1. My site makes more from fees than what it possibly can scamming (max in wallet is 1.95BTC at a time)
2. The goal is not to run away with the money. Since the site is instant and there is no incline in our balance at all, it's not a confidence scam or anything like that.

You're wrong, sorry.

I don't care if you are legit, honest, fair, etc. A ponzi is a ponzi and I warn users for that by marking you red. They can always decide, based on posts, if they want to gamble or not. However, I might change the description added to certain Ponzi's.

I am sorry to say that your reasoning is wrong.

Ponzi is a scheme where investors get an illusion from the Ponzi operator that their investments are being used in proper business for their return, whereas in reality they are getting return from new investor's money. Hence this type of investment schemes are destined to fail by defrauding/scamming the investors. For example PBmining.com, Hashie.co, CryptoMine.io etc.

But, when a Ponzi declares itself that it is a Ponzi, then investors are well aware of the fact that the last person investing will not get paid. In this case, every investor knowingly takes the risk of probability that next investor will invest. Hence it gets categorized under gambling. Gambling is a service where people invest their money knowing that most will lose, but some will get high return depending on probabilistic calculation. For example Just-Dice.com, PrimeDice.com, BitDice.me etc.

So, if you believe gambling is scam, then declared ponzis are as well. In that case, you should leave -ve trust on Stunna, Dooglus etc. as well. Otherwise, you should not leave -ve trust on declared ponzis.

Of course, if they are cheating, i.e. not giving the promised return, then it is a different story, e.g. Dicebitco.in, dice.ninja etc.
Exactly right, another point I missed. If you are going to label ponzi's then why haven't you labelled hashie or any current cloud mining scams?
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Re: Regarding Ponzi Sites -- Requesting some attention (not another section thread)
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 10:55:22 UTC
And if anyone loses money in a ponzi because they couldn't tell if it was legitimate or not, that's your fault for posting negative trust ratings on every ponzi you see. Some people won't go and dig deep, some will just look and see every single site has -4 and will pick one and hope for the best. I hope you think about that also.
I have warned them it's a ponzi and not trustworthy by putting up a negative rating which turns your trust red. If they ignore that and/or search for a ponzi with the lowest negative trust and gamble their, it's not my problem if they lost their BTC. They have decided to ignore all the warnings and gambled.

You're proving to everyone why you shouldn't be apart of default trust right now. Glad you are showing your true colors to us all that your trust ratings are biased.
If I'm biased because I give negative ratings to all ponzi's, than so be it.

I will keep in my mind what you said and think about it. I might change my opinion.
I hope you do change your opinion. From what I am reading, you think people are as smart as you are. Well the truth is 80% of the people on this forum will not even check trust rating details and will base trust ratings on how small the number is. I'm -17, a new member might be -4/-6 and then the coins have gone to the smaller trust rating and potentially, into the -4's pocket.
I'm urging you leave neutrals on those who are paying out automatically, instantly and legitimately. such as myself. as it is literally IMPOSSIBLE to scam anything more than 1.95btc with my script. I also take my 4% fee which is more than enough to sustain costs and to make profit in the long run. It would be foolish for me to even take 10BTC if I was capable of doing so, as I would make more in say one months time running this site legitimately.

If you want more reasons, I have full ammunition. Right now all I see from you is "i will keep it in mind" or "if its a ponzi hes going red". That does not help the community, nor how i see how it would benefit you.

I want to run this point over you again:
If the whole forum had 0 trust and you weren't allowed to +trust certain members (in this situation, people who +trust or promote ponzi's get red trust) how could you tell who is a scammer and who isn't? You can't. It's impossible and it's biased. Scammers will win, legitimate members will lose.

Take it into consideration, think about it long and hard and get back to us here.

In the meantime I want to see opinions from other Default Trust members.
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Re: Regarding Ponzi Sites -- Requesting some attention (not another section thread)
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 10:39:24 UTC
Please see my edited message. Also, if people lose money because they gambled with ponzi's, it's not my fault. It's theirs.
That still does not help anyone out at all. The fact every single ponzi thread will have a negative trust under their name will mean no one will know (unless they dig deep and read descriptions) who is a scam and who isn't.
Again, rethink what you're doing and think about what I am saying. I know you think it's bs that you are being corrected by your nemesis (ponzi games) but you need to think about other people.

I do not want people to lose their coins in scams like everyone is seeing before our eyes, and I'm sure you don't either. So I request that we all reorganise trust ratings and that you start flagging sites that:
1. Hold more than 5BTC at a time
2. Are NOT automatic (whipped together HTML and a transaction logger for the transactions page, a baby can do it)
3. Pay after a certain amount of time (not instant or automatic)
4. Do not pay, obviously this point is to late to take into consideration. First 3 points can easily be distinguished from the first look at their thread or site.

And if anyone loses money in a ponzi because they couldn't tell if it was legitimate or not, that's your fault for posting negative trust ratings on every ponzi you see. Some people won't go and dig deep, some will just look and see every single site has -4 and will pick one and hope for the best. I hope you think about that also. You're proving to everyone why you shouldn't be apart of default trust right now. Glad you are showing your true colors to us all that your trust ratings are biased.
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Re: Regarding Ponzi Sites -- Requesting some attention (not another section thread)
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 10:32:35 UTC
I don't care if you are legit, honest, fair, etc. A ponzi is a ponzi and I warn users for that by marking you red. They can always decide, based on posts, if they want to gamble or not.
You are a perfect example of why this section will not work.

How are you going to separate the SCAMS from the PAYING if you think like this and leave you trust ratings based on this state of mind? You won't. You are causing peoples funds to be robbed just as bad as the scammers who intend on doing so. I highly recommend you rethink that state of mind, or else you are going to cause a lot of people to lose their coins

An honest ponzi is still a ponzi. If you google the word ponzi, the keyword scam shows up in every search. Simply because the whol Ponzi scheme system is flawed, and anyone trying to profit off of it, will "eventually" get scammed off of his coins because you can't afford to pay him out. So you may be honest for now, but when your ponzi will fall apart and you take off with X coins, you will be a scammer. So are all the people hosting ponzis.
I label myself as a ponzi, that's how the game works, exactly like a ponzi. I'm not arguing this fact at all.
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Re: Please give another section to ponzis...
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 10:26:26 UTC
This has come up before. The main issue is that ponzis are very similar to both other gambling sites and real investment sites, so it's difficult to create a category that includes exactly the right things. How about this:

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Investor-based games
Games where the main factor is whether or not new "investors" join the game. Also any Bitcoin-denominated investment product with an APR of 15% or more, which are similarly risky even if they're not actually paying interest using investor deposits.

Would this description cover any real investments or non-ponzi gambling sites? Would it fail to cover any ponzis that have existed in the Bitcoin ecosystem?

Also, are any actual users of the Gambling section irritated by this, or are people just trying to hide this kind of game? Is anyone against the creation of this section?
Most definitely there are people against the whole idea of a ponzi. SOME ponzi's have the ability to store 10's, 100's or 1000's of BTC like cryptodouble did and rob users in the end. The community needs to figure out trust system if you want to make this section work or else no one will know what is legitimate or what is not.
See my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=923461.msg10135856#msg10135856

I hope that you do make this section, but at the same time organise how you will flag the scams and how you will flag legitimate sites. Just like this forum, if everyone has a negative trust rating here no one will know who is a scammer and who is not. That is EXACTLY the situation this section will go through if all of these biased and default ratings continue.
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Regarding Ponzi Sites -- Requesting some attention (not another section thread)
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 10:18:33 UTC
Hi everyone.
My name is NextPonzi. Yes, I am a Ponzi Game owner and my thread is in the gambling section. My current trust rating is -17 -3 right now and I run a legitimate, paying ponzi program.
I am also (actually, we are (there is two of us)) a member of bitcointalk with quite a trustworthy account. An account which I will not reveal because, well, look at my trust rating.

I just want to go over the effects you have on this community, especially Default Trust accounts.

When you neg a ponzi site which is completely fine, I want you to monitor that trust. Keep an eye on it. Simply because some sites, like myself and WeeklyPonzi are actually legitimate but with your trust rating, we are flagged as scammers.

having a negative trust rating is NOT what I am complaining about here.

It is the fact that users will not know who is legitimate and who is not. Now it's if you are not fast enough, people are going to invest in the new (potentially scam) site with a 0 trust rating because people will think he is legitimate compared to the -17, legitimate site like myself or Weekly Ponzi's case.

My point being, I want you to remove or monitor your feedback for legitimate sites. If every single ponzi game (or scam) is in negative trust, how will people know if they are truly legitimate or not? They won't.

Along with this, people are getting negative trusts for positive trusting a ponzi. That's another big issue and really expresses my point above.

I already know for a fact a huge amount of default trust users will make me -100+ after this post. and to be frank, i am not actually phased as anyone who wants to use my legitimate ponzi which is running fine, or weekly ponzi's, then they will do so and disregard your trust rating. Anyone who does believe the rating will then move onto a brand new site with 0 trust rating, and then get scammed.

It's something I want you all to think about.

tl;dr: I hope that you do make this Ponzi Game section, but at the same time organise how you will flag the scams and how you will flag legitimate sites. Just like this forum, if everyone has a negative trust rating here no one will know who is a scammer and who is not. Causing mayhem for users and profit in scammers pockets. That is EXACTLY the situation this section will go through if all of these biased and default ratings continue. Some sites don't deserve the negative trust rating like Weekly Ponzi (and to be honest, myself) as both of our sites make it impossible to run with large amounts of funds. The maximum NextPonzi can carry in a wallet at a time is 1.95BTC (max deposit x 1.3 (130% return). As soon as the wallet has funds ready, it sends the BTC automatically to those who need to be paid out. No manual work required.

I hope you guys read this carefully and take a good hard think. What I say makes sense and is true, I would really appreciate it if we used the trust rating to properly rate the sites. THAT WAY if we DO make a ponzi section, it will be very clear who is legitimate and who is not. Right now, it's a dogs breakfast and people are losing money thanks to your biased opinions and disorganised trust ratings.

Best Regards,

-NextPonzi, and a caring bitcointalk member.
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Re: Please give another section to ponzis...
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 06:39:49 UTC
Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.

Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE.

You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal.
No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round.
Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler.

You will close up shop as soon as no one invests in your scam. Time will show I am right. Let's see where you stand at this time next week.

Usually when someone results to insults (poor ones btw), they are on the defensive about their actions.
But there is no reason for us to close shop. Even if there is one or two deposits in a round we still make profit. When the round ends, the final balance is the owners as we've stated on site and on the forum countless times.
And no, I result to the truth. Because I am literally spoon feeding you what can already be read on our thread, on our site or anywhere that has our name in it.

Great. You write some stuff in your thread that I don't agree with. Is that understandable to you? Eventually, you won't even get those one or two deposits and you will be finished. That is the real truth. Given by your trust rating, I see that many people agree with me as well.
We won't be finished a new round wi begin and if there is such in-activity then we can close doors, but that doesn't mean we'll scam?
Eventually a dice site will never have activity and they'll have to close doors, same deal.
Your arguments are complete and utter garbage.
People label our site a scam because many ponzi sites do in away with people money, not because they agree with your quite illogical arguments
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Re: Please give another section to ponzis...
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 06:07:18 UTC
Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.

Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE.

You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal.
No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round.
Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler.

You will close up shop as soon as no one invests in your scam. Time will show I am right. Let's see where you stand at this time next week.

Usually when someone results to insults (poor ones btw), they are on the defensive about their actions.
But there is no reason for us to close shop. Even if there is one or two deposits in a round we still make profit. When the round ends, the final balance is the owners as we've stated on site and on the forum countless times.
And no, I result to the truth. Because I am literally spoon feeding you what can already be read on our thread, on our site or anywhere that has our name in it.
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Re: Please give another section to ponzis...
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 05:54:41 UTC
Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.

Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE.

You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal.
No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round.
Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler.
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Re: Please give another section to ponzis...
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 05:23:23 UTC
Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.

It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days.
My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that.

I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section.

Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere.

I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile.

Beats me.
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Re: NextPonzi.com | 2 AUTO Ponzi Games | 130% Weekly, 120% 48hr | 45+BTC INVESTED
by
NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 04:29:00 UTC
ANY PAY OUT?Huh?

SCAMMM Huh?

NO your money is GONE

THIS IS AN OBVIOUS SCAM
See our old thread. We are a PONZI GAME.
https://blockchain.info/address/1NExt48hXN8whxhoYsSJHbVCVDSP3g6rEz - over 8.5BTC Smiley

You can call it whatever you want.

It's an unsustainable SCAM

That's why your trust is painted red
AGAIN it is a gamble. It is the same as putting your money in a casino. You may or may not get it back. We are not promising you anything.
Why is that so hard for you to understand? Do you have some sort of mental disability?
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Re: NextPonzi.com | 2 AUTO Ponzi Games | 130% Weekly, 120% 48hr | 40+BTC INVESTED
by
NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 04:19:25 UTC
ANY PAY OUT?Huh?

SCAMMM Huh?

NO your money is GONE

THIS IS AN OBVIOUS SCAM
See our old thread. We are a PONZI GAME.
https://blockchain.info/address/1NExt48hXN8whxhoYsSJHbVCVDSP3g6rEz - over 8.5BTC Smiley
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Re: NextPonzi.com | 2 AUTO Ponzi Games | 130% Weekly, 120% 48hr | 35+BTC INVESTED
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NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 04:12:55 UTC
WE ARE PAYING. DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO FUD ACCOUNTS ON THE FIRST PAGE
started paying lets get this started
Yep, just got payed from the 48 hour version. Thankyou NextPonzi!
sorry.

this is not scam.

thx

BLOCKCHAIN ADDRESS SAYS IT ALL: https://blockchain.info/address/1NExt48hXN8whxhoYsSJHbVCVDSP3g6rEz

There are confirmations, it will payout when it confirms. The 48 hour started, and the countdown is for when the round is ending not starting.
Is the 48hr working now? There has been BTC invested although on your site there is a countdown to start....
Yes it's working, over 7BTC is invested right now.
The countdown is giving everyone some lee-way as compensation for the bugs in the weekly! Smiley
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Re: NextPonzi.com | 33+ BTC Invested | 130% INSTANT Returns | 1.5BTC Max Deposit
by
NextPonzi
on 13/01/2015, 03:57:46 UTC
How about the missing transaction which i have already PM'ed you.
We have a 6 minute post/pm limit we have to follow. we are working through a backlog of PM's right now

Are we able to invest in the 48 hour game now or not?
No, not yet. New thread coming soon, we are closing this one up momentarily.

if you start another game all of investers :

3-01 03:20   1AQTordUHPayyCdx5WiyBeGdG7jpLCYTQj   0.05 BTC   0.065 BTC   Input TX Confirmed
13-01 02:42   1EKt3yKd5W9fsfEtRQQi2hZfW1jwHRfkZJ   0.02 BTC   0.026 BTC   Input TX Confirmed
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13-01 01:46   1LCcPdYjGLxwK5X1zK42Z4LMMPhXgr8RB3   1 BTC   1.3 BTC   Input TX Confirmed
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13-01 01:35   1NSTwwk9AW1ENqqFsc55z81HBtDhVx5haK   0.08146 BTC   0.105898 BTC   Input TX Confirmed
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13-01 01:14   16UgAYsPkdnaX5BgYzKBg5vRGeBxpxy22i   0.79931461 BTC   1.03910899 BTC   Input TX Confirmed
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12-01 18:43   1Bf6cFvnXoCHWXVnptnAvDXYyu29w1veQ6   0.01998739 BTC   0.025983607 BTC   Input TX Confirmed
12-01 18:43   1E1xLSfAAewb8NSCz5zfmLnCuuRop9vB84   0.22 BTC   0.286 BTC   Input TX Confirmed
12-01 18:43   14TFRFrVH143kCETHvcwzioZx1hWG6qzoW   0.4 BTC   0.52 BTC   Input TX Confirmed

this game are lost!



nobody will play your games!


OP you need to add the transactions in order to be paid correctly. Received Time    
13-01 00:15   1QEmgSL1qxGqvDicnnqKy6ng5e99bDnctq   1.3 BTC   1.69 BTC   Input TX Confirmed  This is the wrong time. to be Fair they need to be put right in the correct order.


correct time should be Received Time    2015-01-12 20:22:01  not 13-01 00:15 Needs to be moved down 10 Spots.
All the transactions should be placed in order received to get payment when it is supposed to be sent.

1QE has been moved down, this has been due to time zone error. Both blockchain and my server are now in GMT so that is fixed.
Game is restarting in 1 week (next monday) so dont worry about being scammed about round ending early, you still have 5 days left, and we are going to stick to schedule.
Please notify me on how many hours I have to move back any transactions

You still haven't moved the 5 other transactions with timezone errors.

1QE was 4 hours after me and is now 1 spot before me.
We are working on a fix. the next hour is nothing but bug fixes and creation of the new game Smiley