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If you want to mine on CPU, buy Ryzen 2000, 3000 & 5000 series from the second hand market.
3000 & 5000 series basically have same performance for most mining algorithms. Ryzen 1000 just might work if you get them for free as I see people offloading them for real cheap these days. But power consumption might not be optimal for the performance.
They are usually cheap enough for it to be "manageable" if you are adventurous to take a potential no win scenario but just break even.
Don't buy the newest stuff because you will never get back the investment in time.
I don't do this myself but looked into it briefly at times. It's never profitable to put in as a investment but if you have a large cache of used parts it could be done as a side hobby.
If you are upgrading your main PC just for the latest & greatest, your old PC's could be used for this unless you want to hand it over to someone else to be sold or such as parts.
Used parts market have a large supply of potential cheap processors to be used these days with decent performance per unit to be much better than buying the newest generation.
Though GPU mining is much easier to setup & get a return faster.
3000 & 5000 series basically have same performance for most mining algorithms. Ryzen 1000 just might work if you get them for free as I see people offloading them for real cheap these days. But power consumption might not be optimal for the performance.
They are usually cheap enough for it to be "manageable" if you are adventurous to take a potential no win scenario but just break even.
Don't buy the newest stuff because you will never get back the investment in time.
I don't do this myself but looked into it briefly at times. It's never profitable to put in as a investment but if you have a large cache of used parts it could be done as a side hobby.
If you are upgrading your main PC just for the latest & greatest, your old PC's could be used for this unless you want to hand it over to someone else to be sold or such as parts.
Used parts market have a large supply of potential cheap processors to be used these days with decent performance per unit to be much better than buying the newest generation.
Though GPU mining is much easier to setup & get a return faster.
AMD should make a 2000$ GPU's for the consumer market like NVIDIA.
500-600W is tolerable for the absolute performance at the top tier they would need to have.
Those who can't afford them buy the lower tier 1000$ GPU @ 200-300W instead.
There is absolutely a market for these expensive GPU's no matter what people say that can't afford them.
There are enough people that can afford them to make them viable.
500-600W is tolerable for the absolute performance at the top tier they would need to have.
Those who can't afford them buy the lower tier 1000$ GPU @ 200-300W instead.
There is absolutely a market for these expensive GPU's no matter what people say that can't afford them.
There are enough people that can afford them to make them viable.
The problem is that 600W is too much, the RTX4090 was designed for 600 W. According to problems with the manufacturer, the cards were produced in a smaller manufacturing process and therefore the RTX4090 only need 450 W. and the AMD RDNA3 cards were not as good as AMD predicted, not bad, but also not at the point they wanted. An AMD 600W monster could beat the RTX4090, but it can also happen that this is not enough and that would be so bad for AMD.
Multi-chip GPU design will allow performance to scale to unimaginable levels as cooling will be less and less of a issue for the chip as they can break it up into smaller dies.
Power consumption can reach 1kw area if they really want to push the limits with a 2-4x chip design for GPU's depending on how powerful they want to push each chip in the multi chip solution.
2x GPU's gonna be the most likely solution and reaching 600W with those would not be that hard to do if they went with dual 7900 series core design as a first solution.
The professional tier cards could see 4x or more design to come quite quick.
AMD should make a 2000$ GPU's for the consumer market like NVIDIA.
500-600W is tolerable for the absolute performance at the top tier they would need to have.
Those who can't afford them buy the lower tier 1000$ GPU @ 200-300W instead.
There is absolutely a market for these expensive GPU's no matter what people say that can't afford them.
There are enough people that can afford them to make them viable.
500-600W is tolerable for the absolute performance at the top tier they would need to have.
Those who can't afford them buy the lower tier 1000$ GPU @ 200-300W instead.
There is absolutely a market for these expensive GPU's no matter what people say that can't afford them.
There are enough people that can afford them to make them viable.
Re: SRBMiner-MULTI GPU & CPU Miner 1.0.4 - Profitable Dual Mining
Is there a possibility to add extra threads for dual mining algorithms?
I noticed it was limited to 1 thread per algo when dual-mining.
For example I want 2threads for ETH/ETC and then one thread for HEAVYHASH.
--gpu-intensity 20+20;10 for example ignored the second thread for ETC/ETH. Only used the first value per algo.
I noticed it was limited to 1 thread per algo when dual-mining.
For example I want 2threads for ETH/ETC and then one thread for HEAVYHASH.
--gpu-intensity 20+20;10 for example ignored the second thread for ETC/ETH. Only used the first value per algo.
Someone would need to make it themselves if they can get access to the ASIC chips.
Gotta go the business route yourself if you want this made. I don't see the current manufacturers wanting to bother with it as it would be less profitable than a large single unit machine.
Maybe a GPU vendor wants to dabble into it if they can buy the Intel BTC ASIC chips directly. But it will be cost prohibitive. And not sold to consumers directly as the other Mining cards without contacts.
Most likely will be a one off production run and then abandoned for lack of sales because of cost/performance.
Gotta go the business route yourself if you want this made. I don't see the current manufacturers wanting to bother with it as it would be less profitable than a large single unit machine.
Maybe a GPU vendor wants to dabble into it if they can buy the Intel BTC ASIC chips directly. But it will be cost prohibitive. And not sold to consumers directly as the other Mining cards without contacts.
Most likely will be a one off production run and then abandoned for lack of sales because of cost/performance.
After we enter recession in full, somewhere after this winter we are probably hitting 4-7K again.
Asic miners will be cheaper then ever and GPU mining long gone this time, if that will be a thing again remain to see, I do not expect to see so big price jump to use GPU on any coins currently on the market.
Asic miners will be cheaper then ever and GPU mining long gone this time, if that will be a thing again remain to see, I do not expect to see so big price jump to use GPU on any coins currently on the market.
GPU mining will not go anywhere, there are always new coins to shift your hashrate into with the hardware but profitability will vary with time. Might now be as profitable as it was this cycle again ever again though.
New hardware is always be more efficient and markets get saturated with new entrants and it will squeeze out all those who can't afford it. Driving costs up & profitability down.
It will reach equilibrium with time but it wall also mean only hobbyists are into it or full scale industrialists.
There will not be room for small ventures much longer unless you have other incomes to subsidize your mining costs with electricity etc from elsewhere.
You guys should look at the new M.2 PCIE 4x USB adapters.
M.2 -> 4x PCIEx1 with usb cables. You can stop using those PCIE X1 things and connect to M.2 slots with USB directly. No mishaps or mistakes any more.
Not bought one myself but looking to try them out if they have better availability. Not seen too many sellers but some in China that take their time to ship.
Here a example:
BEYIMEI M.2 NVME to 4 Ports PCI-E 1X USB 3.0 Riser Card, M.2 B-Key PCI-E Interface for Bitcoin Miner Ethereum Mining
https://www.amazon.com/BEYIMEI-M-2-Interface-Bitcoin-Ethereum/dp/B09YHDPSC8/ref=sr_1_1?crid=33BIB1MGDV6LL&keywords=BEYIMEI+M.2+NVME+to+4+Ports+PCI-E+1X+USB+3.0+Riser+Card%2C+M.2+B-Key+PCI-E+Interface+for+Bitcoin+Miner+Ethereum+Mining&qid=1656756892&sprefix=beyimei+m.2+nvme+to+4+ports+pci-e+1x+usb+3.0+riser+card%2C+m.2+b-key+pci-e+interface+for+bitcoin+miner+ethereum+mining%2Caps%2C310&sr=8-1
M.2 -> 4x PCIEx1 with usb cables. You can stop using those PCIE X1 things and connect to M.2 slots with USB directly. No mishaps or mistakes any more.
Not bought one myself but looking to try them out if they have better availability. Not seen too many sellers but some in China that take their time to ship.
Here a example:
BEYIMEI M.2 NVME to 4 Ports PCI-E 1X USB 3.0 Riser Card, M.2 B-Key PCI-E Interface for Bitcoin Miner Ethereum Mining
https://www.amazon.com/BEYIMEI-M-2-Interface-Bitcoin-Ethereum/dp/B09YHDPSC8/ref=sr_1_1?crid=33BIB1MGDV6LL&keywords=BEYIMEI+M.2+NVME+to+4+Ports+PCI-E+1X+USB+3.0+Riser+Card%2C+M.2+B-Key+PCI-E+Interface+for+Bitcoin+Miner+Ethereum+Mining&qid=1656756892&sprefix=beyimei+m.2+nvme+to+4+ports+pci-e+1x+usb+3.0+riser+card%2C+m.2+b-key+pci-e+interface+for+bitcoin+miner+ethereum+mining%2Caps%2C310&sr=8-1
Pools keep closing...
Only Zpool.ca working and all other sites/explorers are closed.
Zpool.ca takes a hefty fee with converting to BTC and then back.
Solo mining doesn't work any more in the most recent build I recall... So how long before we have no pool? And no Solo possible?
Was fun as a hobby to learn the ins-outs of wallets/solo-mining etc with this coin but seems it's on it's last legs.
Only Zpool.ca working and all other sites/explorers are closed.
Zpool.ca takes a hefty fee with converting to BTC and then back.
Solo mining doesn't work any more in the most recent build I recall... So how long before we have no pool? And no Solo possible?
Was fun as a hobby to learn the ins-outs of wallets/solo-mining etc with this coin but seems it's on it's last legs.
Below 10K for BTC is the time to start investing if you want to target the next bull cycle down the road in a couple years or more.
Doge is already at the Buy price since it went below 10cents and really getting worthwhile @ 5cents and below if you want to accumulate as well for the next cycle.
It's price has been too high for the whole time since it shot up April 2021. It was a quick uptrend but not sustainable for it's market penetration it had.
I only wonder if it has any trend value & worth left in it for a new bull-cycle or did it exhaust itself in this one already.
Doge as a MEME has value. It's not a scam like the rest. Question is how long does a MEME retain it's value as a trend. Will it survive it's popularity to become something worthwhile or die trying. It's a coin like any else but has recognition and marketable value of it's own unlike many peers.
Markets have kinda eaten up the newness of itself from the populace at large, and burned many newcomers with these dump prices as most bought in through the HYPE with ATH prices thinking it would reach higher peaks rather than put them in the slaughterhouse.
Did this cycle burn too many people? We had many new entrants finally finding value to enter it but they did so at real high prices and they are getting REKT at the moment exiting their positions.
I find that too many people might have gotten themselves in trouble. Next cycle might take longer than anticipated to build.
Market conditions aren't favourable and frivolous money isn't readily available as in the past. Inflation will limit peoples spending habits.
Doge is already at the Buy price since it went below 10cents and really getting worthwhile @ 5cents and below if you want to accumulate as well for the next cycle.
It's price has been too high for the whole time since it shot up April 2021. It was a quick uptrend but not sustainable for it's market penetration it had.
I only wonder if it has any trend value & worth left in it for a new bull-cycle or did it exhaust itself in this one already.
Doge as a MEME has value. It's not a scam like the rest. Question is how long does a MEME retain it's value as a trend. Will it survive it's popularity to become something worthwhile or die trying. It's a coin like any else but has recognition and marketable value of it's own unlike many peers.
Markets have kinda eaten up the newness of itself from the populace at large, and burned many newcomers with these dump prices as most bought in through the HYPE with ATH prices thinking it would reach higher peaks rather than put them in the slaughterhouse.
Did this cycle burn too many people? We had many new entrants finally finding value to enter it but they did so at real high prices and they are getting REKT at the moment exiting their positions.
I find that too many people might have gotten themselves in trouble. Next cycle might take longer than anticipated to build.
Market conditions aren't favourable and frivolous money isn't readily available as in the past. Inflation will limit peoples spending habits.
V0.9.5
+ Added algorithm 'yescryptr8' for GPU mining, fee 0.85%
+ Added algorithm 'yescryptr16' for GPU mining, fee 0.85%
+ Added algorithm 'yescryptr32' for GPU mining, fee 0.85%
+ A little bit lower power consumption on 'ethash' algorithm for RDNA2 GPU's
+ A little bit lower power consumption on 'etchash' algorithm for RDNA2 GPU's
+ If using --cpu-threads parameter, affinity is now auto set for CPU's with 64+ threads too
+ Added parameter '--set-console-title' (Windows only) [set custom title to miner console window]
+ Added parameter aliases for --algorithm, --cpu-threads, --password, --pool, --wallet ( -a, -t, -p, -o, -u )
+ Parameter '--diff-factor' now accepts values in decimal format too
+ Minor bug fixes
+ Added algorithm 'yescryptr8' for GPU mining, fee 0.85%
+ Added algorithm 'yescryptr16' for GPU mining, fee 0.85%
+ Added algorithm 'yescryptr32' for GPU mining, fee 0.85%
+ A little bit lower power consumption on 'ethash' algorithm for RDNA2 GPU's
+ A little bit lower power consumption on 'etchash' algorithm for RDNA2 GPU's
+ If using --cpu-threads parameter, affinity is now auto set for CPU's with 64+ threads too
+ Added parameter '--set-console-title' (Windows only) [set custom title to miner console window]
+ Added parameter aliases for --algorithm, --cpu-threads, --password, --pool, --wallet ( -a, -t, -p, -o, -u )
+ Parameter '--diff-factor' now accepts values in decimal format too
+ Minor bug fixes
Great work here!
Interesting to see the yescryptR 8/16/32 algorithms on the GPU.
Getting some 12~13kH/s with a 6900XT on [R16] as I was gathering some QOGE for fun.
A little better than on CPU 8core Ryzen for ~2kH/s.
Better efficiency on GPU ~250W vs CPU ~100W PPT values.
Found a issue that the Miner doesn't work with the newest AMD GPU drivers on all algorithms. [SRBMiner-MULTI 0.9.4]
AMD-Software-Preview-Driver-May-2022 in particular does not start to Mine with [argon2d-dynamic, heavyhash]
etchash/ethash does work though.
AMD-Software-Preview-Driver-May-2022 in particular does not start to Mine with [argon2d-dynamic, heavyhash]
etchash/ethash does work though.
Yeah the pool issue is now fixed in 0.9.1 
On the other hand I tried out DYNAMO.
You are good if you get 10% of the stated hashrate poolside because of the "duplicate shares" thing with this algo. You get good shares the first couple hours but then it falls of a cliff with only duplicate shares netting you a average 10% shares of the total stated that you should be getting because of all the rejects.
A little disappointing in the end it works like that.
Maybe do a calculation to remove all the rejects to see the "actual" hashrate you get of accepted shares?
Just a improvement suggestion.
On the other hand I tried out DYNAMO.
You are good if you get 10% of the stated hashrate poolside because of the "duplicate shares" thing with this algo. You get good shares the first couple hours but then it falls of a cliff with only duplicate shares netting you a average 10% shares of the total stated that you should be getting because of all the rejects.
A little disappointing in the end it works like that.
Maybe do a calculation to remove all the rejects to see the "actual" hashrate you get of accepted shares?
Just a improvement suggestion.
I can concur the "Not connected to a pool?" issue with the 0.9.0 where it never was a issue in previous versions.
It's kinda random, you need to restart the miner to fix it.
Other miners or instances might be fully functional while this new 0.9.0 build gives this message.
It's kinda random, you need to restart the miner to fix it.
Other miners or instances might be fully functional while this new 0.9.0 build gives this message.
RX 6500 XT in Mining by Sapphire | Tests on 7 coins | Most Unsolicited Purchase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSUJbySItAQ
ETC - 14 Mh
Toncoin -1200 Mh
FLUX - 8,3 Sol
ERGO - 27 Mh
RVN -9 Mh
ETH -1 Mh
If you are a miner, then you will receive all the data without translation into Russian. Useless video card, miners won't buy it.
lol eth - 1mhs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSUJbySItAQ
ETC - 14 Mh
Toncoin -1200 Mh
FLUX - 8,3 Sol
ERGO - 27 Mh
RVN -9 Mh
ETH -1 Mh
If you are a miner, then you will receive all the data without translation into Russian. Useless video card, miners won't buy it.
Wow... a 5700G iGPU can do that 1Mh for ETH.
There are lots of altcoins these could be used for though.
Question is 2x 6500XT better than a single rx 6600/6600XT for cost/efficiency.
If you want to have some rigs mining altcoins you could have a bunch of these mining various coins for risk/lotto purposes.
Altcoin mining GPU's basically. Not too costly and easy to setup with low power draw.
But for 300$+ as they are currently priced it's better to acquire RX 6600's.
Saw no difference for RX 6900XT though.
hmm, interesting. At what core clock? I changed the code and now it should give more on lower clocks. Also it needs proper tuning of gpu, probably stock settings is not a good solution now(except now it should consume less power).~2120Mhz with 240W PPT, because of 100C Hotspot temperature. Returns the similar ~910-920MH/s as earlier version.
Didn't improve results on my end for RDNA2, RX 6900XT.
WildRig Multi 0.31.2
- improved heavyhash for AMD Polaris(~1.5%), Vega(~10%), RDNA/RDNA2(~3-4%)
- implemented correct message of unsupported iGPU's on newer AMD drivers(21.5.2+)
- implemented parameter --watchdog-script
- fixed monitoring AMD gpu's temperature/power/fan under Linux, and RDNA/RDNA2 on Windows
- improved heavyhash for AMD Polaris(~1.5%), Vega(~10%), RDNA/RDNA2(~3-4%)
- implemented correct message of unsupported iGPU's on newer AMD drivers(21.5.2+)
- implemented parameter --watchdog-script
- fixed monitoring AMD gpu's temperature/power/fan under Linux, and RDNA/RDNA2 on Windows
Vega 64 ~344MH/s @ 165W PPT
Can confirm the 10%+ increase for VEGA 64. With a cost of running higher hotspot temperature.
Saw no difference for RX 6900XT though.
V0.8.5
+ Performance increase on 'heavyhash' algorithm for VEGA/RDNA/RDNA2 GPU's
+ Fixed 'verushash' algorithm 'invalid solution version' error
+ Performance increase on 'heavyhash' algorithm for VEGA/RDNA/RDNA2 GPU's
+ Fixed 'verushash' algorithm 'invalid solution version' error
Heavyhash hashrate:
RX 6900XT ~1070Mh/s @ ~240W PPT
RX VEGA 64 ~300Mh/s @ ~150W PPT
Can you share your CC and mV ?
RX 6900XT CC: ~2130MHz ~880mV (HWiNFO64)
RX VEGA64 CC: ~1200Mhz ~825mV (HWiNFO64)
Vega 64 is not tuned, only PPT adjusted really, RX 6900XT has has some voltage adjustments to hit it's efficiency in both AMD drivers & MPT but not maximized for potential.
Hotspot is around 100C on the 6900XT and 90C on the Vega 64.
Hotspot is a issue, can't run more wattage through the cards that much more. (insufficient cooling setup)
6900xt is really nice, but can't you go lower than 880mv ?
I can go lower to around 870mv but with risk of instabilities if you do other stuff than only have it mining on the PC, performance doesn't increase though really for the effort.
You need to increase wattage for more performance.
V0.8.5
+ Performance increase on 'heavyhash' algorithm for VEGA/RDNA/RDNA2 GPU's
+ Fixed 'verushash' algorithm 'invalid solution version' error
+ Performance increase on 'heavyhash' algorithm for VEGA/RDNA/RDNA2 GPU's
+ Fixed 'verushash' algorithm 'invalid solution version' error
Heavyhash hashrate:
RX 6900XT ~1070Mh/s @ ~240W PPT
RX VEGA 64 ~300Mh/s @ ~150W PPT
Can you share your CC and mV ?
RX 6900XT CC: ~2140MHz ~880mV (HWiNFO64)
RX VEGA64 CC: ~1200Mhz ~825mV (HWiNFO64)
Vega 64 is not tuned, only PPT adjusted really, RX 6900XT has has some voltage adjustments to hit it's efficiency in both AMD drivers & MPT but not maximized for potential.
Hotspot is around 100C on the 6900XT and 90C on the Vega 64.
Hotspot is a issue, can't run more wattage through the cards that much more. (insufficient cooling setup)
V0.8.5
+ Performance increase on 'heavyhash' algorithm for VEGA/RDNA/RDNA2 GPU's
+ Fixed 'verushash' algorithm 'invalid solution version' error
+ Performance increase on 'heavyhash' algorithm for VEGA/RDNA/RDNA2 GPU's
+ Fixed 'verushash' algorithm 'invalid solution version' error
Heavyhash hashrate:
RX 6900XT ~1070Mh/s @ ~240W PPT
RX VEGA 64 ~300Mh/s @ ~150W PPT