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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟
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Nomadz
on 07/10/2020, 04:48:39 UTC
Hi everyone, I am trying to set CAT so that it use only a part of the balance.

For example: I have 500USD and I want use only 300USD on ETH/USD Market.
I have set "Limit Buy Pool ZUSD Max Value to" at 300 but it still create a ping order with the full balance of 500.
It is possible to use a fixed amount of USD to create ping order so that gains after a PONG order are not reused for ping?

Thanks

james

Hi,
There is an option under Advanced settings called "Consider" which is normally set to 100%, just adjust this so that you only trade with a portion of your account. Regards Nomad
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟
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Nomadz
on 26/04/2020, 02:47:36 UTC
I have been looking at how we implement this in CAT: (taken from Tips and Tricks)
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Study the MAX Value & MIN Value of markets during 24/48/72 hours. The number of times that market hits MAX-Y and MIN+Y (A window of value where you know that many times/day you will reach that value).
Place a Buy when Market is near MIN+Y, place a Sell when Markets is Near MAX-Y
Set a % difference near % Diff Between MIN and MAX

- You don't need to have a lot of Ping-Pong cycles completed to make money with C.A.T. You can have 1 Ping-Pong/Day but with enormous Gain. Some markets move +/- 30% in a 24 hour period.

I assume we count the number of times the market reaches a certain point during intraday movement and then use that as Y (as a percentage)
Can we find Y within CAT or can you suggest best way to approach this ? Are we crunching intraday numbers or is there a website that can help with this?

Once we find Y, how do we create rules to do this in CAT?
Is that what the market price limits (high 24 - Y% and low 24 +Y%) are used for?

PING NEVER BUY OVER MIN + Y % (so will only buy between MIN + Y and MIN)
PONG NEVER SELL UNDER MAX - Y % (so will only sell between MAX - Y and MAX)

Please assist is this is the right approach or should we be using static price limits to always buy and sell at Y

Did you have a use case for using the Prince limits for Last, High 24, Low 24 Average last 24?

much appreciated..
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.2 🌟
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Nomadz
on 26/04/2020, 01:27:39 UTC
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That's a shame, is there a CAT 2 in progress or a new cyrpto related

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No new project in crypto world, Crypto world and C.A.T. absorbed all my energy/free time from 2013 to 2018.
Now it's time for me to look elsewhere in my private life.

No problems fully understand, CAT is very powerful already with many features added over the years.
Have you created a list of known issues that we should be aware of?

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You can use the price limit rule : "Never buy Under your last Pong Sell Price"
and you can add a static rule "Never buy Under X" (Where X is a static value that you consider a limit you would never go under)

Thanks will look closer at this. I have the "Never buy Under X" working now but CAT re-entered the market and created another negative gain but have not looked at whether this was Under X and whether stop loss was triggered. Will go through the logs.

Overall the ping/pong gains is working great but occasionally i get negative gains after a stop loss trigger so was hoping to be able to set never buy under stop loss X and that would have kept CAT out of market until I can review situation.

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How does the Price Limit and Stop Loss rules work together?

Stop loss Win over Price Limit


Good to know, I was hoping it worked that way:-)

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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.2 🌟
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Nomadz
on 25/04/2020, 06:33:28 UTC
As i already wrote

Actually i'm in "maintenance mode"
i'm not planning new release/new features.
Just support and fixes when needed.

So actually no, i'm not working on CAT new features.
But support/bugfix is active as usual.

That's a shame, is there a CAT 2 in progress or a new cyrpto related?

If this is the case, could you please help me with existing rules that will stop CAT from buying in a downward market once a stop loss order has been applied and order completed.

If I use: dynamic ping buy order to make minimum 1% profit but if market drops under 2000 the stop loss will be applied and then CAT will never buy under 2000. This is to exit the market and never re-enter until the market goes back over 2000.

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Price Limit:
PONG SELL - NEVER SELL UNDER LAST PING BUY PRICE + 1 %
PING BUY - NEVER BUY UNDER 2000

Stop Loss
SELL ALL IF MARKET PRICE GOES UNDER 2000

In this case, will CAT continue doing ping/pong trades until the market drops under 2000
then CAT will place stop loss order to exit and then never re-enter market until the market goes back over 2000

How does the Price Limit and Stop Loss rules work together?
In the above case I say NEVER BUY UNDER 2000 and I SELL ALL if market price goes UNDER 2000
Will the stop loss order be applied ?
Will CAT NEVER BUY UNDER 2000 based on the above rules.

I am trying to work out why CAT has re-entered the market after stop loss was applied and how can i stop it from re-entering when market is down..

Regards Nomadz  

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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟
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Nomadz
on 24/04/2020, 04:56:10 UTC
Hey Sampey, are you still activity developing CAT?
If so could i please ask to get a feature added to enhance stop loss please.
What I would like is a option that when ticked it enables the following:
If Stop loss is applied, then after new order is placed and trade completed successfully then CAT will not restart ping/pong to keep CAT from placing new orders.

This could be further enhanced by, CAT will not restart ping/pong after stop loss order is applied if total gain (including entry/exit fees) is negative
(this will keep CAT out of the market and preventing multiple negative gains when market drops)

Regards Steve
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.2 🌟
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Nomadz
on 16/01/2020, 10:25:40 UTC
actually i'm not planning a new release, but if there's something to fix i will fix it.

Hey Sampey could you please confirm how often does CAT check that the exchange fee amounts are still the same?
I noticed with Poloniex they offered 0.0 buy/sell fees over the xmas holidays and I have been automatically trading for some time now.
However, after my pc restarted and I reloaded CAT and got Poloniex trading again i noticed that the fees had gone back up.

Does CAT periodically check the value of associated trades during PING/PONG cycles or only when you open that trading pair within the exchange?
Are you able to add some code to get CAT to check fee values say every 24 hours if CAT is left running more that 24 hours if CAT doesn't do this already.

Also under File/Save (Load) is it possible to save and load gain information too as I noticed the gain information was missing after i did a Load market with everything ticked..
(I now have automatic backup enabled assuming that backs every up)

Regards Nomadz
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.2 BETA + BINANCE !!! 🌟
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Nomadz
on 30/01/2018, 10:04:26 UTC
Feature request:
When you get a chance could you please consider adding a feature that would allow us to tick an option that when we place a Pong Stop Loss (SELL All if Market Price Goes UNDER [value] that it would also place (or maintain) PING LIMIT - Never BUY UNDER [same value as Pong Stop Loss value] and when the Pong Stop Loss value is updated it would automatically update the associated Price Limit order.
Currently this can be done manually by placing a Price Limit Static PING LIMIT - Never BUY UNDER [value] but when we update our PONG Stop Loss rule we also have to remember to update the associated Price Limit rule.

Basically what this will do is when the market crashes below a certain point and the Stop Loss triggers it will prevent CAT from trying to re-enter the market while the market continues to crash making further losses.
Alternately, an option that when ticked, and the stop loss rule triggers, a cancel all order for that currency pair is sent and when filled CAT goes into Standby mode that prevents any further trading of that currency pair.

Your thoughts..

Regards Steve
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.2 BETA + BINANCE !!! 🌟
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Nomadz
on 12/01/2018, 10:24:32 UTC
Yobit has a new domain which they advertise as being faster:
https://yobit.io/en/

Sampey could you please investigate whether it would be better to point CAT at this domain rather than their old one as its prob less known at present and we could then take advantage of less congestion on their systems..

Regards Steve

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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.0 Improve Your Trading !!!! 🌟
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Nomadz
on 06/06/2017, 14:11:54 UTC
Hello Sampey,

Can you explain in a very basic example how CAT works?
I need to have money in various exchanges?
what is market devaluation?
Thanks

Juan

Further to Sampeys reading homework that he gave you....

Basically the way CAT works in its simple configuration is to have CAT running 24/7 on a single exchange using one of the API's that can be purchased and then selecting a currency pair to trade from the market that is available from the exchange you chosen. Later on, you can add additional APIs to start trading on multiple markets at the same time.
At this stage, CAT does not allow you to trade between exchanges but we can trade multiple currency pairs from the same exchange.
This includes the ability to run multiple instances of CAT (in different folders within your pc) using the same exchange API that you purchased.
This allows you to run very complex configurations which I am sure some traders on here do.

As far as actually using CAT to trade and make a profit, all you need to do is select the currency pair, determine what min profit gain you want and then CAT will place order(s) onto the market and then continually monitors price movements in order to make the required profit. Once CAT exits the market after making the required profit (assuming the market moved in the right direction) it will re-enter the market again to repeat another trading cycle (hence the term PING-PONG).
(this can be either by selling first and then buying back, or buying first and then selling back depending on what your view on market trends is)

There are several configuration options to change the behavior of how CAT enters, monitors, and exits the market which is where most of the configurations come into play.
Once you get the feel of how CAT works and what options do what, then you can explore more complex configurations once you become more experienced with CAT and the currency pair/market you are trading.

As far as choosing which exchanges, im sure Sampey could suggest which APIs are most common but in order to start trading you will need to own some of each currency pair that you want to start trading so either select the exchange you already have been using before finding CAT (assuming the API exists) or setup a new exchange and transfer/buy the currency pairs that you want to trade.
Only other thing to consider first is to compare the fees, min order number, and the currency pairs available on the exchange, and what their trading volumes are.

After this, you will most likely be looking at individual currency pairs trying to decide whether to only trade one pair or split your money across multiple pairs and trade the entire market.
Once you make some money, you can buy another API and expand or experiment with other configurations to improve your returns.

Ill add this to the http://cryptowalk.com/ forum and expand further.

Regards Steve


thanks a lot Steve.I read through all the stuff that sampey provided me but i still dont understand they way the soft generates the profit.It is an arbitrage in the same exchange?



Hi,
As far as I know, CAT will only place Buy (or Sell) Orders onto the market within the same Exchange. CAT does not offer the ability to Buy (or Sell) in one Exchange and then Sell (or Buy) in another. CAT will only Buy/Sell in the same Exchange. However, you are able to open multiple Exchanges at the same time and have separate trades going at the same time. Just not between Exchanges.
The only manual way would be to take the profits from one Exchange (made from CAT) and to manually transfer that to the other Exchange outside of CAT using the normal Exchange transfer services including their transfer fees/timing limitations etc.

CAT does allow you to have multiple trades going within multiple Exchanges, so you can also use available profits to startup other trades to maximize your profits (and potential losses)

Regards Steve
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.0 Improve Your Trading !!!! 🌟
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Nomadz
on 06/06/2017, 11:05:11 UTC
Hello Sampey,

Can you explain in a very basic example how CAT works?
I need to have money in various exchanges?
what is market devaluation?
Thanks

Juan

Further to Sampeys reading homework that he gave you....

Basically the way CAT works in its simple configuration is to have CAT running 24/7 on a single exchange using one of the API's that can be purchased and then selecting a currency pair to trade from the market that is available from the exchange you chosen. Later on, you can add additional APIs to start trading on multiple markets at the same time.
At this stage, CAT does not allow you to trade between exchanges but we can trade multiple currency pairs from the same exchange.
This includes the ability to run multiple instances of CAT (in different folders within your pc) using the same exchange API that you purchased.
This allows you to run very complex configurations which I am sure some traders on here do.

As far as actually using CAT to trade and make a profit, all you need to do is select the currency pair, determine what min profit gain you want and then CAT will place order(s) onto the market and then continually monitors price movements in order to make the required profit. Once CAT exits the market after making the required profit (assuming the market moved in the right direction) it will re-enter the market again to repeat another trading cycle (hence the term PING-PONG).
(this can be either by selling first and then buying back, or buying first and then selling back depending on what your view on market trends is)

There are several configuration options to change the behavior of how CAT enters, monitors, and exits the market which is where most of the configurations come into play.
Once you get the feel of how CAT works and what options do what, then you can explore more complex configurations once you become more experienced with CAT and the currency pair/market you are trading.

As far as choosing which exchanges, im sure Sampey could suggest which APIs are most common but in order to start trading you will need to own some of each currency pair that you want to start trading so either select the exchange you already have been using before finding CAT (assuming the API exists) or setup a new exchange and transfer/buy the currency pairs that you want to trade.
Only other thing to consider first is to compare the fees, min order number, and the currency pairs available on the exchange, and what their trading volumes are.

After this, you will most likely be looking at individual currency pairs trying to decide whether to only trade one pair or split your money across multiple pairs and trade the entire market.
Once you make some money, you can buy another API and expand or experiment with other configurations to improve your returns.

Ill add this to the http://cryptowalk.com/ forum and expand further.

Regards Steve
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.0 Improve Your Trading !!!! 🌟
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Nomadz
on 29/05/2017, 09:08:13 UTC
Ok, the bot itself looks cool. But guys - do you have an appropriate strategy which can be used with this bot?

Hi,
I have been discussing this exact thing with Sampey and I am in the process of setting up a separate website/forum at http://cryptowalk.com/ to hopefully discuss CAT strategies, trading plans, trading results etc with other CAT users.

The intent is to allow public and private listings and allow users to choose whether to keep their content to themselves or share within the public forum area for us all to view and contribute as well as discuss how we can use new features in our trading plans to improve on already great results. (assume we all have trading plans right? Wink

I still need to Announce/encourage participation from other CAT users but the site is setup enough to start using it if that will help sharing this type of information.

Happy to share my progress and feedback on CAT so far but i am sure their are lifetime users online that can contribute more.

Regards Steve
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.0 Improve Your Trading !!!! 🌟
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Nomadz
on 10/05/2017, 11:12:02 UTC
Hey Sampey is there a way to filter out currency pairs that have no open buy/sell orders from the market list data ?

Something like an option next to the get market data button that:
1. if selected would only return active currency pairs that have at least 1 open buy/sell order which could be traded?
2. if not clicked would work as normal

I know we can sort the market data by 24 hr buy or sell volumes but cant filter out all pairs that have both 0 buy and sell 0 sell data so we can then research the remaining active pairs for possible trade opportunities.
Some of the exchanges are offering long list of currency pairs and this would allow us to quickly filter out the crap.

Regards Steve


Bump   Wink

Hi, actually not in TODO List but i will consider it  Wink

Thanks as always.
Having a quick look we could filter on Market List - don't display any pairs that have buy order and/or sell order = 0
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.0 Improve Your Trading !!!! 🌟
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on 10/05/2017, 10:06:55 UTC
Hey Sampey is there a way to filter out currency pairs that have no open buy/sell orders from the market list data ?

Something like an option next to the get market data button that:
1. if selected would only return active currency pairs that have at least 1 open buy/sell order which could be traded?
2. if not clicked would work as normal

I know we can sort the market data by 24 hr buy or sell volumes but cant filter out all pairs that have both 0 buy and sell 0 sell data so we can then research the remaining active pairs for possible trade opportunities.
Some of the exchanges are offering long list of currency pairs and this would allow us to quickly filter out the crap.

Regards Steve


Bump   Wink
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 5.0 Improve Your Trading !!!! 🌟
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on 06/05/2017, 00:53:35 UTC
Hey Sampey is there a way to filter out currency pairs that have no open buy/sell orders from the market list data ?

Something like an option next to the get market data button that:
1. if selected would only return active currency pairs that have at least 1 open buy/sell order which could be traded?
2. if not clicked would work as normal

I know we can sort the market data by 24 hr buy or sell volumes but cant filter out all pairs that have both 0 buy and sell 0 sell data so we can then research the remaining active pairs for possible trade opportunities.
Some of the exchanges are offering long list of currency pairs and this would allow us to quickly filter out the crap.

Regards Steve
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 4.9 Improve Your Trading !!!! 🌟
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Nomadz
on 29/03/2017, 11:46:47 UTC
Sampey is there a way to resume your cumulative gains for each Exchange/market after we restart C.A.T ?
Currently, when we save our order and parameters and then restart, we loose our cumulative gains.
It would be great to be able to continue these cumulative stats after restoring the open orders etc

Regards Nomad

Actually no way. You must export your gains from CAT to csv format or use the GAIN.TXT files and create your own personal gain files.

Ok thanks ill just extract them instead...
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Nomadz
on 29/03/2017, 03:50:24 UTC
Sampey is there a way to resume your cumulative gains for each Exchange/market after we restart C.A.T ?
Currently, when we save our order and parameters and then restart, we loose our cumulative gains.
It would be great to be able to continue these cumulative stats after restoring the open orders etc

Regards Nomad
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 4.7 NEW 2017 PRICES!!!! 🌟
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Nomadz
on 24/02/2017, 10:51:27 UTC
Ok guys, found the problem :

This problem could occurs only if your Nonce is "broken"
Nonce is a progressive number that exchange wants inside any Private Api call.
Nonce used by CAT is always higher than previous nonce (because is your local time stamp expressed as milliseconds).
Poloniex API have (sometimes) problem about this Nonce : you get an error message like "You send me X i was waiting for Y"

In this case, CAT Parse Y, then start use Y as nonce, and increasing Y Value instead of local time as milliseconds.

Something changes yesterday on Poloniex API system : Errors are returned in the Http Error Stream and not in the Http Output Stream.
This is why CAT is not able to read the message and continue works.

This is a bad behaviour from Poloniex Exchange : you must not change your API Version system after put in production environment.
I Mean, if API System V1 works in a way, if you change something you must create a V2 API System.
This is what happens if someone interface following a set of rules and you change that set of rules.

Solution :
Give me no more than 48 hours and i will release 4.7 Version.
This is the best i can do

I assume you mean 4.8.....no worries waiting a few days to ensure stability in the next release..
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Re: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 4.7 NEW 2017 PRICES!!!! 🌟
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Nomadz
on 23/02/2017, 09:57:49 UTC
well im screwed then cause i dont know anybody i was going to be willing to buy it if i could figure it out and make a lil somethin guess ill have to find something to invest in coin wise and try that way seems like a good software from what ive read

have a good day sir and keep up the good work

Its not that much for an initial investment to get you up and running and while you gain expertise with CAT you can just start out with free coins from Yobit and mining on your pc. Once you build trust in CAT working the way it does you can then invest more real money and then trade multiple markets at the same time to quickly recover your initial investment.

Once you see the accumulative profits being made from each market you'll be tempted to jump straight in with your home  Wink
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Nomadz
on 19/02/2017, 02:54:23 UTC
Hi All,
Been away for a couple of weeks so now getting back into trading again.

Just wondering if any of the more expeirienced traders could point me to some useful websites that have guides on how to approach trading Bitcoiins/Altcoins in a way that could be automated using CAT.?

Looking to make a trading plan on how to pick which currency pair to trade next, how to determine potential profit targets (min % gain) based on the current min/max levels etc and how to protect the position within CAT.

Essentially if you could give a step by step summary of the things you look for/do when researching and setting up CAT to execute your next trade that would help me really understand how to max my learning..

Oh and thanks for CAT 4.7 Sampey, keep up the great dev work and support you provide :-)

Regards Nomadz
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Nomadz
on 19/01/2017, 08:44:17 UTC
As in 0.50 = 50% so half (1/2) of 1 percent
so 1% would be 1.00 and
5.5% would be 5.50 etc

Regards Steve

Yes The Gain value is already expressed as percentual.
And 0.5% is half of 1%

Thanks  Smiley