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Re: [SDC] ShadowCash | POSV2 | Untraceable E-Cash | NIZKP | HD+BIP32 | ShadowMarket*
I did as asked and created my own SDC thread for uncensored discussions
I assume I am allowed to link to it without "triggering" anything? Here it is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1200091.0
Thanks
I assume I am allowed to link to it without "triggering" anything? Here it is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1200091.0
Thanks
Re: [SDC] ShadowCash | POSV2 | Untraceable E-Cash | NIZKP | HD+BIP32 | ShadowMarket*
It isn't just ring signatures, it is a combination of techniques involving a particular construction of ring signature, breaking amounts into equal denominations for mixing, and stealth addresses (including making outputs of a transaction unlinkable with each other) that comprise the CryptoNote application of the math to the practice of cryptocurrency (saberhagen white paper). The same methods with minor variation are used in Shadow. The most recent Shadow uses Adam Back's modified ring sigs (approaches 1/2 size with large mix factors), so it does deviate from CryptoNote there.
Sure
Shadow's dual key stealth addys look like CN addys. LOL
Be seeing you.
Re: [SDC] ShadowCash | POSV2 | Untraceable E-Cash | NIZKP | HD+BIP32 | ShadowMarket*
I have requoted it so that it may live on for all of eternity in teh clouds.
Personally I'd say that, after 9 months of waiting, ffmad's attack on the community for not providing the technical documentation for a tech created by the in-house cryptographer makes the shadow quote of the year: Not to mention that he, a web designer, is now helping to write the docs himself. That's a doozy.
I see you're still invoking CH's name in IRC and reddit still
Shadow's thread moved some time ago. Here's a link the the original. I recommend reading the first 15 pages.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7910616#msg7910616
TL;DR
The first 11 days. PoW. The fair launch.
The original OP giving details of the mining pool (chickenstrips) and the 20 million POW supply
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7925381#msg7925381
SDCDevs first ever post explaining his choice of scrypt and saying "The source will be available as soon as we launch tomorrow afternoon" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7912522#msg7912522
Some unhappy about scrypt ASICs
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7916958#msg7916958
Two hours after launch chickenstrips goes down (around block 158)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7925580#msg7925580
Here is the chickenstrips address:
http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SY91LeCzU4TM251pkRD8THHA186f7ZwDU3?display=all
From block 159 to block 3050 this solo-mining monster takes over and mines almost 400,000 in around 48hours, mostly without any competition since no pools are up and running.
http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SYnHd6uBbbiXitR235TTysjqLRiRDxFbZ8
LongandShorts' first post 5 days after launch
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8009798#msg8009798
3-4 days pass and more mining pools appear but concerns are raised are ASIC miners and the plan is changed. PoW to be cut short and only 6 million in this phase. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8106937#msg8106937
The rest is history.
One person said your name.
Ffmad didn't attack the community, he attacked you for bitching day in and day out.
You said you were out. How about you honor your own word.
Isn't it funny how one overlooks the shortcomings of those he loves?
And yet one sees more clearly without that fog.
We all wear many masks Tim and this is the last of mine. CH never posted again and all being well after this neither shall I.
ffmad's were not aimed specifically at CH. Anyway the notion anybody besides ryno and TV could prepare these docs, or more specifically CH, is preposterous,
I had never examined the early days of SDC... until now. The links only serve to document the first 11 days and the dramatic change from 20 to 6 million supply, ostensibly resulting from the presence of scrypt ASIC's, which existed at the time of launch. With 90% of coins mined in the first 11 days, combined with the failure of the official mining pool, it is hard to imagine how this can be described as a "fair launch" . The release of shadow chat to coincide with said 11 day PoS wallet release also suggests the code was ready beforehand and released expediently.
Without peer review the best we got is Todd's cryptographer colleague saying the "math looks like Monero" (which really means Bytecoin I guess).
Anyway people will form their own opinions.
Bye.
The math does not belong to Monero/Bytecoin/Cryptonote. The math belongs to traceable ring signatures.
Prove it.
I'm no expert but I've played with Bytecoin , Monero and Shadow. Shadowsend tx's look like Crytonote on the chain. They even suffer the same I/O irritations. The use of ring sigs for anon at all is a BCN innovation. That Todd's colleague said what he did makes perfect sense. Why does TV not object?
Nuff market speak.
I'm out.
Re: [SDC] ShadowCash | POSV2 | Untraceable E-Cash | NIZKP | HD+BIP32 | ShadowMarket*
I have requoted it so that it may live on for all of eternity in teh clouds.
Personally I'd say that, after 9 months of waiting, ffmad's attack on the community for not providing the technical documentation for a tech created by the in-house cryptographer makes the shadow quote of the year: Not to mention that he, a web designer, is now helping to write the docs himself. That's a doozy.
I see you're still invoking CH's name in IRC and reddit still
Shadow's thread moved some time ago. Here's a link the the original. I recommend reading the first 15 pages.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7910616#msg7910616
TL;DR
The first 11 days. PoW. The fair launch.
The original OP giving details of the mining pool (chickenstrips) and the 20 million POW supply
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7925381#msg7925381
SDCDevs first ever post explaining his choice of scrypt and saying "The source will be available as soon as we launch tomorrow afternoon" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7912522#msg7912522
Some unhappy about scrypt ASICs
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7916958#msg7916958
Two hours after launch chickenstrips goes down (around block 158)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7925580#msg7925580
Here is the chickenstrips address:
http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SY91LeCzU4TM251pkRD8THHA186f7ZwDU3?display=all
From block 159 to block 3050 this solo-mining monster takes over and mines almost 400,000 in around 48hours, mostly without any competition since no pools are up and running.
http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SYnHd6uBbbiXitR235TTysjqLRiRDxFbZ8
LongandShorts' first post 5 days after launch
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8009798#msg8009798
3-4 days pass and more mining pools appear but concerns are raised are ASIC miners and the plan is changed. PoW to be cut short and only 6 million in this phase. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8106937#msg8106937
The rest is history.
One person said your name.
Ffmad didn't attack the community, he attacked you for bitching day in and day out.
You said you were out. How about you honor your own word.
Isn't it funny how one overlooks the shortcomings of those he loves?
And yet one sees more clearly without that fog.
We all wear many masks Tim and this is the last of mine. CH never posted again and all being well after this neither shall I.
ffmad's remarks were not aimed specifically at CH. Anyway the notion anybody besides ryno and TV could prepare these docs, or more specifically CH, is preposterous,
I had never examined the early days of SDC... until now. The links only serve to document the first 11 days and the dramatic change from 20 to 6 million supply, ostensibly resulting from the presence of scrypt ASIC's, which existed at the time of launch. With 90% of coins mined in the first 11 days, combined with the failure of the official mining pool, it is hard to imagine how this can be described as a "fair launch" . The release of shadow chat to coincide with said 11 day PoS wallet release also suggests the code was ready beforehand and released expediently.
Without peer review the best we got is Todd's cryptographer colleague saying the "math looks like Monero" (which really means Bytecoin I guess).
Anyway people will form their own opinions.
Bye.
Re: [SDC] ShadowCash | POSV2 | Untraceable E-Cash | NIZKP | HD+BIP32 | ShadowMarket*
I have requoted it so that it may live on for all of eternity in teh clouds.
Personally I'd say that, after 9 months of waiting, ffmad's attack on the community for not providing the technical documentation for a tech created by the in-house cryptographer makes the shadow quote of the year: Not to mention that he, a web designer, is now helping to write the docs himself. That's a doozy.
I see you're still invoking CH's name in IRC and reddit still
Shadow's thread moved some time ago. Here's a link the the original. I recommend reading the first 15 pages.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7910616#msg7910616
TL;DR
The first 11 days. PoW. The fair launch.
The original OP giving details of the mining pool (chickenstrips) and the 20 million POW supply
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7925381#msg7925381
SDCDevs first ever post explaining his choice of scrypt and saying "The source will be available as soon as we launch tomorrow afternoon" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7912522#msg7912522
Some unhappy about scrypt ASICs
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7916958#msg7916958
Two hours after launch chickenstrips goes down (around block 158)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg7925580#msg7925580
Here is the chickenstrips address:
http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SY91LeCzU4TM251pkRD8THHA186f7ZwDU3?display=all
From block 159 to block 3050 this solo-mining monster takes over and mines almost 400,000 in around 48hours, mostly without any competition since no pools are up and running.
http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/address/SYnHd6uBbbiXitR235TTysjqLRiRDxFbZ8
LongandShorts' first post 5 days after launch
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8009798#msg8009798
3-4 days pass and more mining pools appear but concerns are raised are ASIC miners and the plan is changed. PoW to be cut short and only 6 million in this phase. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8106937#msg8106937
The rest is history.
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | ShadowMarket* | PR Firm
Complete Shadowteam is now in OKCash...?!
Lovin' how trolls think they can smell blood when CH gets vitriolic. The fact this community can support such diverse opinion only shows its strength and character. Me and WC are nothing, mere footnotes in the history of Shadow.
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | ShadowMarket* | PR Firm
Ok i dumped all...i hate it when it stinks to heaven!
lol says the cravecloaker. gtfo already troll.I'm staking and happy. The market is coming. I know they are capable of the development behind it. These devs always deliver.
*edit* and seriously child you are going to make a shitstorm because of .4btc? I am not going to buy your silence. That is a disgusting offer.
Staking and you are happy? That every staked coin is nothing worth in future?
Market is broken and devs will never release something special, only poor distract news.
Sorry? Who the hell are you?
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | ShadowMarket* | PR Firm
What is going on here? Bad drugs? Please expend your efforts imagineering new ways to use our coin.
Did that for 6 months
I think we all deserve the Zeuner report by now
You don't deserve the air that you breath.
Nice cliche wordsmith
Introducing ur new leader... wheatclove
Good luck with that
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | ShadowMarket* | PR Firm
What is going on here? Bad drugs? Please expend your efforts imagineering new ways to use our coin.
Did that for 6 months
I think we all deserve the Zeuner report by now
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | ShadowMarket* | PR Firm
Ok i dumped all...i hate it when it stinks to heaven!
lol says the cravecloaker. gtfo already troll.I'm staking and happy. The market is coming. I know they are capable of the development behind it. These devs always deliver.
*edit* and seriously child you are going to make a shitstorm because of .4btc? I am not going to buy your silence. That is a disgusting offer.
Good
Can't wait for the shitstorm
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | ShadowMarket* | PR Firm
People will dump just to spite child_harold. Nobody wants to help a cunt make money. I'm personally adding him to my ignore list. Fuck you and your entire existence.
what a joke
Ur a poisonous scumbag wheatstain
Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source
Can anybody speak to this coin's anon?
Is it original code or was the stealth addy component forked from a diff coin?
Is there a whitepaper? Are stealth addy tx's shown in the blockchain?
ANd finally ur blockexplorers r down, how many VTC in circulation today?
thanks
EDIT: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/vertcoin/
answered the last part for myself this coin has nearly a $4million marketcap?
WHY?
How active is Bushido? Does he post on BCT? cheers
Is it original code or was the stealth addy component forked from a diff coin?
Is there a whitepaper? Are stealth addy tx's shown in the blockchain?
ANd finally ur blockexplorers r down, how many VTC in circulation today?
thanks
EDIT: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/vertcoin/
answered the last part for myself this coin has nearly a $4million marketcap?
WHY?
How active is Bushido? Does he post on BCT? cheers
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | Market* | Thunderclap 1,3M+
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | Ring Sigs | Decentralized MarketPlace (w)
24HRS TO GO!
Our Thunderclap Supporter Goal Has Been Reached!
Today, we will let the world know how the Shadow Project is defending our privacy with technology that has never been created before. Our message will be blasted out to more then 1,300,000 people at 18:00 GMT+1!
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | Market* | HARDFORK 6th MAY-> Please Update
Looks like this blazin888 kid has sprung a leak, i advice everyone to cross his/her/its' name off any "take seriously list" they might have.
dont bump then!!
Uummm
why was my bump deleted by a mod?
dont bump then!!
wait what?
who just sprang a leak?
"dont bump then"? - r u for real?
Re: [SDC] The Shadow Project | Anon POS | Market* | HARDFORK 6th MAY-> Please Update
/Satoshi:1.3.2.3/ ??
http://shadowchain.info/nodes/
a new wallet in testing?
ip addys of 1.3.2.3 all point to the same US provider. could this be an internal test?
http://shadowchain.info/nodes/
a new wallet in testing?
ip addys of 1.3.2.3 all point to the same US provider. could this be an internal test?
