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Re: Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 08/11/2019, 10:35:15 UTC
There has been some places that is doing this but the most recent and huge one is binance. The problem is that you are not making too much money so people do not see it as a way of making money.

Everyone thinks that when you give people 3% or less they would see it as an investment or some sort of savings account type of thing you make money but in the end there are many many poor countries in the world with higher than 3% interest rate already, even freebitcoin as a company gives 4% bitcoin return and why would I pick an inferior bad altcoin that gives me 3% or even 4 when I could just pick the OG coin bitcoin with 4% interest rate? So, only time it will actually get more popular will be when people actually have coins that gives them 10% or more which would make sense to invest into.

Thank you el kaka22. I know about Binance but I prefer working with a Swiss exchange rather than a Chinese. Why do you say you can not make too much money? SMART VALOR gives up to 6.9% which is a lot especially since I see it as an alternative for interest which is equals to 0 or even negative here in Switzerland. Even 4% would be fine for me since I am in crypto for the long term.
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Re: Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 06/11/2019, 10:41:51 UTC
Staking use to be a good cash cow for investors before 2018 bull run, the bear market kill most of this because they kill dumping and most people lose money, but recently exchanges are looking into this staking business reason being that most people keep their tokens on exchanges and they can get reward holding them

Okay thank you disconnectme. But the exchange can not use my coins or tokens when I gave them for staking since they are locked up I thought. So why should SMART VALOR give back 100% of the revenues and not take a fee???
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Re: Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 05/11/2019, 13:33:52 UTC
Hey guys I am not very familiar with the topic of staking and staking-as-a-service. But I just saw yesterday evening that SMART VALOR a Swiss crypto exchange started their staking campaign where you can either stake Dash or their native token VALOR.

They state that revenues are up to 6.9% for Dash and 15% for VALOR. Here is the link for their announcement:
https://news.smartvalor.com/staking-dash-available-on-smart-valor-platform/

What do you guys think about it? I think it could be good alternative for earning some passive income (if I understand the concept correctly) like interest back in the days bank used to pay some Grin

I think it's good as long as we trust the exchanger who runs the staking program. If we plan to hold it in the long run, this staking program will benefit because our goals are achieved and also get passive income

Yes you are right, after reading a little bit more into the topic of staking I think I understand it better. So staking is actually a win-win situation. Not only the staker but also the network will profit from it. Also I am wondering now why SMART VALOR should give back 100% of the revenues makes no sense?
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Re: Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 05/11/2019, 09:04:53 UTC
Hey guys I am not very familiar with the topic of staking and staking-as-a-service. But I just saw yesterday evening that SMART VALOR a Swiss crypto exchange started their staking campaign where you can either stake Dash or their native token VALOR.

They state that revenues are up to 6.9% for Dash and 15% for VALOR. Here is the link for their announcement:
https://news.smartvalor.com/staking-dash-available-on-smart-valor-platform/

What do you guys think about it? I think it could be good alternative for earning some passive income (if I understand the concept correctly) like interest back in the days bank used to pay some Grin

Lol. Reading this thread is like watching the OP play with all those who took the effort to respond. You are not familiar with the topics of staking and staking-as-a-service but you are very familiar with what SMART VALOR is offering using their native token VALOR? You deserve to get credit for shilling for this project with cunning style. Those all-caps words are making everything obvious. Avoid it. Lol. But I kind of like their services though to be honest.  

Hey NathanJB yes I am not very familiar with staking/staking-as-a-service that why I am asking but I know the exchange since I buy crypto on it.
I just copy paste their announcement and this makes you belive I am "very familiar" with it  Grin Grin Grin thank you but I am not. The company name is written SMART VALOR in all-caps do you expect me to write the name wrong? Sorry I do not get your points... I am interested why you "kind of like their services" could you say more about that?
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Re: Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 05/11/2019, 08:44:54 UTC
Invest with caution because you dont control the funds. The exchange can ran-away with it when they decide to close down
Almost all of the big exchange are already doing this staking feature and it is getting interest but its better to stake it your own if possible its much safer and the profit goes directly to you.

Yes you are right but before I have the 72k USD I will probably use the services of SMART VALOR. I know the exchange since I attended their crypto summit last year which was the biggest crypto event in Switzerland. Also as I stated before the team is public and they are located in Switzerland and no shady place contrary to many other crypto exchanges. But yes if I do not know the exchange, I would not give them my coins for staking.
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Re: Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 05/11/2019, 08:38:51 UTC
Hey guys I am not very familiar with the topic of staking and staking-as-a-service. But I just saw yesterday evening that SMART VALOR a Swiss crypto exchange started their staking campaign where you can either stake Dash or their native token VALOR.

They state that revenues are up to 6.9% for Dash and 15% for VALOR. Here is the link for their announcement:
https://news.smartvalor.com/staking-dash-available-on-smart-valor-platform/

What do you guys think about it? I think it could be good alternative for earning some passive income (if I understand the concept correctly) like interest back in the days bank used to pay some Grin

I have never been interested in such passive income earning projects, and I would not recommend it to others. The amount you send will remain in their cold wallet for 1 year and you do not know what will happen at the end. It is even more important than reliability of exchange. To me, the coin is yours as long as it is in your wallet, but if it is elsewhere, you should be nervous until you get.

Hey tenakha thank you for your opinion. I did check the lock up period with SMART VALOR they stated that you can get your lock uped coins whenever you want back and there is no lock up period of 1 year compared to other exchnages. Think I got it right -> https://news.smartvalor.com/staking-dash-available-on-smart-valor-platform/
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Re: Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 04/11/2019, 13:57:35 UTC

Thank you Rodeo02. Yes this is exactly my point I don’t have the 72k USD to participate. This is why I am considering using their service because so I can profit from the rewards without investing so much money. I dont think/hope this is a problem with SMART VALOR their team is public and they operate out of Switzerland no shady place compared to the locations of many other crypto companies  Grin

So what is their deal? Can you somehow stretch it here?

Staking needs some coins. This means you will still invest something to them. Example is you will have a share instead buying the whole 1000 DASH.
I hope I am understanding it right.
If not, please enlighten me more about this.
Will they run a pool for different users until they fill up the whole pool for the staking process? I guess that is what is happening here.

Yes in the Dash example you would need 1000 Dash to host a masternode to get the rewards. The staking-as-a-service from SMART VALOR offers you to participate without having 1000 Dash, 1 is enough.

No not a pool, since SMART VALOR is also an exchnage they anyways need to hold larger amount of Dash for liquidity. On their website they stated that as soon as you stake your coins with them staking begins.
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Re: Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 04/11/2019, 11:15:56 UTC
Staking service or staking pool has happened from many years ago until today, only PoS based project can do that.
If I can afford to hold it by myself, I would rather stake it on my own VPS other than giving it to the exchange.
But if you do not know how to do it or do not want to keep maintain it, giving it to the service provider is fine too.

This is not interest buy staking the coin to get a new coin because of proof of stake consensus.
As i remember DASH required 1000 DASH coin to start a masternode and staking it t ,you can earn around 7% anually.its impossible for lower budget traders to have that amount  unless you have a large fund willing to invest.

The problem of giving it to 3rd party is the risk that you will lost what you invest for staking since you dont have full control of your balance.


Thank you Rodeo02. Yes this is exactly my point I don’t have the 72k USD to participate. This is why I am considering using their service because so I can profit from the rewards without investing so much money. I dont think/hope this is a problem with SMART VALOR their team is public and they operate out of Switzerland no shady place compared to the locations of many other crypto companies  Grin
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Re: Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 04/11/2019, 10:38:28 UTC
Staking service or staking pool has happened from many years ago until today, only PoS based project can do that.
If I can afford to hold it by myself, I would rather stake it on my own VPS other than giving it to the exchange.
But if you do not know how to do it or do not want to keep maintain it, giving it to the service provider is fine too.

This is not interest buy staking the coin to get a new coin because of proof of stake consensus.

Hey Javi_Anibarro thank you for your answer. Okay I have never heard of it before, thought this is something new. You are right about your two last points but your missing a big one which is the most important in my case. For staking Dash yourself one must host a masternode which requires 1000 Dash which is currently nearly 72`000.- USD, I don’t have so much cash available  Roll Eyes so with using the service of SMART VALOR, if I understand it correctly, I can profit from the 6.9% rewards without needing to invest 72k USD.
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Staking-as-a-service, Opinions?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 04/11/2019, 10:07:14 UTC
Hey guys I am not very familiar with the topic of staking and staking-as-a-service. But I just saw yesterday evening that SMART VALOR a Swiss crypto exchange started their staking campaign where you can either stake Dash or their native token VALOR.

They state that revenues are up to 6.9% for Dash and 15% for VALOR. Here is the link for their announcement:
https://news.smartvalor.com/staking-dash-available-on-smart-valor-platform/

What do you guys think about it? I think it could be good alternative for earning some passive income (if I understand the concept correctly) like interest back in the days bank used to pay some Grin
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New Staking-as-a-service Provider in Switzerland
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 31/10/2019, 09:10:00 UTC
Hey guys don’t know if you are familiar with the topic of staking and staking-as-a-service? But I just saw yesterday evening that SMART VALOR a Swiss crypto exchange started their staking campaign where you can either stake Dash or their native token VALOR. Revenues are up to 6.9% for Dash and 15% for VALOR. Here is the link for their announcement: https://news.smartvalor.com/staking-dash-available-on-smart-valor-platform/ What do you guys think about it? I think it could be good alternative for earning some passive income like interest back in the days bank used to pay some  Grin
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0% Exchange Fees
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 07/10/2019, 14:56:27 UTC
Hey guys just wanted to share with you the SMART VALOR exchange. It is Swiss based, regulated and currently offers 0% fees and a 10% Bonus for Dash purchases--> https://smartvalor.com/en/
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Re: Best trading platform?
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Papa_Bitcoin
on 07/10/2019, 13:43:47 UTC
Hey although it is a new exchange, I can really recommend the SMART VALOR platform. It is based in Switzerland and is also licensed by the regulatory authorities in Switzerland. They currently offer 0% fees for cryptos and also have a Dash campaign where you get 10% more Dash when buying (https://smartvalor.com/referral/a1lnzRHH).