I got mine working with 3 pools.

If a platform guarantees a return they are likely a scam, you can't guarantee mining earnings.

The scam usually comes from selling contracts and not having the physical mining equipment, they claim to have the miners but in reality they just pay you what a miner would have earned if it was mining.

As for the Y+Z > X, if the company is real they will be mining for themselves (with hashrate they haven't sold or hashrate they have allocated for themselves). But as a business, you want cashflow. Y+Z in 6 months might be greater than X, but if you sell a contract today for X you get X today without having to wait 6 months.

If the company buys $500k of  miners that will produce 10PH and they sell that 10PH for a 1 Year contract somewhere around $450k, they get another $450k they can use to buy almost another 10PH, at the end of the day almost every contract company charges you for electric either at the end of the day or included in the purchase price. So in turn they get their original capital back, get enough hashrate for themselves (or they can sell it off) and in 1 Year the equipment belongs to them and you as the customer pay for the electric. If they only mined, they would pay 500k upfront, have to wait for the mining income to come in before they can do anything else and also pay the electric bill for that mining.

Think of it like annuities, you get paid a little bit every day, would you take a slight loss in the long run to get a large payout now? And before you answer remember having cash now = you can use it now without waiting.

This might not be the same but the first A10 I received had a DNS issue on DHCP, I first had to set it to static change the DNS then put it back to DHCP. Whatever DNS they were using in China didn't always resolve from here.

@favebook
well it would be instant and without fee if the exchange is owned by them, they don't send any bitcoin they just deduct from your account. You basically already sent them bitcoin so there is no need to wait.

Not saying this is a bad thing.

All the links provided do that.

If you want to just make a conversion tool that says x BTC = y USD or vice versa you need to link to an exchange's api to fetch the pricing data, then just multiply or divide depending on what currency gets inputted. But if you want a program that does that plus generates a payment invoice just use btcpayserver. (but again at least 2 of the links provided will do that, I've never heard of coingate but they probably do as well.)

Edit* instead of linking to an exchange you can link to the payment gateway's api and pull data from that.

Can you log into the miner and go to the cgminer log then copy paste that here with code tags

Only really "matters" for the chain miners like Avalons when you have a large group on one controller and 20 miners are represented to the pool as 1. Each miner gets individual work but instead of getting work based on the miners capability (13-15TH) it goes by the controllers (200+TH).

Purse has like a 10k USD protection guarantee. They have a level system in place to gate keep users, new users have a purchase limit / cap it's somewhere around $50-100 depending on how verified they buyer is. If your purchases are in the 50-100 range you can usually get them for 28% off including purses fee's and delivered in about 2-5 days.

Larger orders 100+ take longer to complete and the lower level users can't purchase them so you get stuck into the lower discount range. Just this past week I had a 450 total order get processed at a 20% discount, it took about 23 days to get processed.

If you are willing to take a discount of 5% they basically process your order for you, a mix of purse + their VIP's buying it for you and it processes almost immediately if not right the and there.

If you'd like shoot me a PM and I can give you a referral code we both get $5 or something like that if you buy or sell 100$ in orders (you can probably find one online also). You can shoot me a PM also if you have any questions.

Link to their protection policy.
https://support.purse.io/en/articles/1670623-am-i-protected-using-purse

He should be able to alter or write a review since he made a purchase, I don't think eBay puts a limit on how long you have to write a review. And yeah probably calling and explaining to ebay that the device that was sent was infected with a virus and that other buyers might get scammed might do something. The odds of him getting a rep that has no idea what he is talking about are probably very high.

If a claim takes awhile to happen or like in the other case the buyer doesn't check for a while, then the funds will clear PayPal and the seller gets the money. Yeah paypal will attempt to pull the money back when a claim is opened but the worst thing they can do is close the person's account / send it to collections.

eBay tried pulling this crap on  me with a bad buyer and wanting to refund more than what he should have been given. They pulled the funds back from paypal out of my bank account, my bank froze the transaction and reversed it and paypal sided with my bank, ebay was pissed and closed my account but then again they never were authorized to take anything out of my bank. Paypal didn't care because the claim had nothing to do with them other than they processed the payment. So if the seller doesn't have any funds in paypal and no bank / credit card on file or a bank that will side with their customer the seller will win.

I agree with awesomeminer and many of your points.

To the point of vnish and Alex, I've gotten different info out of both of them. Alex seemed upset when I brought up @vnish posting a beta firmware and when I asked them both the same question Alex answered immediately and provided some clear terms on how to move forward. Vnish said he needed some time to give an answer and a few days later gave a similar one. (This was code related).

To me idc who the software is from if it works and the support is there, to me if I have the option to ask a distributor a question and they are just middle-maning and I have to wait a day or two to get an answer or I can contact someone who knows the answer and get it right then I'd prefer whoever answered me quick and correct.

Do you have any SMART test results for them?

Well he admitted it was his fault eBay did nothing. If you expect to order something let it sit for 3 months then think let me test this and expect the seller to honor a DOA unit months past the delivery date you are crazy.

Yes odds are the seller was trying to scam but it should have been tested the day it arrived.

I agree with a lot of this, but it's more of a "extra work involved" getting crypto setup for donations.

Yeah they'll need to pay a fee to convert crypto to fiat if they can't pay any of their suppliers in crypto, but this fee is usually less than what credit card companies charge. Think of every purchase you make with a credit card about 1-3% goes to the banks, you don't pay this the merchant does.

So accepting crypto for donations would be more beneficial to the charities, but since it's something new they would need to put a bunch of effort to do it and learn how to properly do it.

Age old business problems
In the long term this will save us, but will increase our upfront costs. Most organizations would rather spend a little bit a lot of times rather than a lot a few times.

Edit* Just to add if you want a charity to accept crypto, go to the charity and volunteer, work with them learn how and what they do. And then approach the people who can make decisions / managers at the organization and give them a pitch.

But if you just say I like what this place is doing they should accept BTC. I'm going to send them an email with all these benefits, don't expect too much from them.

StoryTime:
I did something like this before, at a convention talking to a company that had no place in crypto, I talked to many companies that day and all the reps basically laughed and said it would never happen. The next day one of those reps came up and said "I'd like to apologize for my comments the day before, we just received a memo this morning saying that as of this coming Friday they would accept BTC payments for any items sold on their site. Nothing I said got them to change their minds, the company already was working on integration it's just the sales / marketers had no idea, basically just talking to the wrong people.

^That company was Dell

It can actually be more than that, it's all negotiation and quantity of miners running the firmware. If you have thousands you get a lower fee, in awesomeminers case the dev fee is 1% and awesomeminer adds 1% for themselves. The 17 series can be different but in awesomeminers case they take a portion so they can develop a management system that works better with that firmware.

Now I have no idea if these features are worth it, they might be worth it to some. I've tried awesomeminer and I actually like it, however at scale it just doesn't make sense. It's a very nice ui and 90+% of the features can be replicated if it's worth your time. In my case it was since the work arounds to get awesomeminer to work the way I wanted it to just weren't there.

It looks like the site is encrypted by "Let's Encrypt" a free SSL authority, basically you can get a free cert but it has limits (I think the limit is 3 months then it has to be renewed).

What it looks like they didn't do, is set up the auto redirect to force ssl

I wouldn't trust the site but it looks like they tried partially.

Last I checked awesomeminer is also a vnish re-brand. At least the S9 version they advertised was.

There aren't that many firmware's out there, at least from looking through a lot of the bigger ones, they are all just a copy or a re-brand. And of course the crappy ones that don't actually do anything posted by newbies/scammers.

**Re-brand - when I say re-brand I mean the developer allows other companies / people to distribute the software as their own including putting another logo in it's place.

My bigger reason to not go with a rebrand is support, the people distributing the software are just distributors. They did not code it and they do not know how it fully operates (they might know how it works), but if you read the docs / knowledge bases you can know just as much as them and more than likely if you ask a question that they don't know the answer to they will just middle-man it to the developer.

It kind of looks like the A9++ which does have 3 boards on each section.

@OP where did your investor / person find the image. If it is an A9++ it isn't a BTC miner and if the investor doesn't know what the image is from then they shouldn't be picking what they will be running.

I mean that link is just a rebrand of vnish. Might as well just download it from the original.

http://vnish.net

No, so if they offer you 5% back for shopping at Amazon, they use their referral link to Amazon (Amazon's affiliate link) odds are they are getting 10% from Amazon and splitting the difference with you.

What reason would foldapp need or how much do you think they would make selling your data to google or facebook, oh wait fb/google already get your info just by having those facebook/google installed on your phone. It's also kind of hard to remove google from your android phone seeing as google owns andriod unless you use mods.

It's all affiliate links, odds are there is some data selling but not too much. At least from the limited spam I get all the spam is from things I've signed up specifically for none of it is from any of the cashback sites I've used, at least based on the email headers that are coming in.

Learn some web design, create a decent site with good content then sign up for affiliate programs with the big players, Amazon, Walmart, Bestbuy etc. you'll see that they offer you a nice amount if any of your site visitors use your links. So some web devs created sites specifically for using their links, tell your users if you make a purchase on this site you will get x, you never have to tell them you make anything but it pushes them to buy using your link.

And before anyone says anything about the apps that you upload your receipts to, yes odds are there is some analysis going on with the things you buy but a larger portion of that is the new "coupon system" now the companies that issue printed coupons are going digital, you get paid by them by proving you made a purchase and if one of the items qualifies for a coupon you get x back (usually the value of the coupon).

Edit* Also I hope none of you are using facebook or google's dns if you are worried about your data being sold.