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Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 |11 New Features | Petition | Vote | Exchange | PROFIT
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Poena
on 27/10/2014, 01:16:48 UTC
Working now! Got 3 blocks in a few hours, but 1 rejected. Using two 750ti for a total of 33500kh/s.
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Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 |11 New Features | Petition | Vote | Exchange | PROFIT
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Poena
on 26/10/2014, 03:44:58 UTC
Are the binaries supposed to work out of the box for 750ti?

Or only under linux using compute 5.0.

Thanks. Smiley
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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 16/09/2014, 19:03:43 UTC
i have 750ti x6 on 1 pc.
 can i rig with  750ti x5 ?   disable x16 first slot  -- for play games    if can please tell me.

-d 1,2,3,4,5 would be ok.

But it my case the first X16 slot isnt the device 0 in ccminer. Its just about trial and error I guess. Cheesy
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
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Poena
on 31/08/2014, 00:15:54 UTC
I just sold my five 750ti. I don't have the time to research with school and profitability is not that good anymore.

I sold them to friends of mine for 100$ CAD each.  Maybe I'll buy a 970 or 980 depending on the price tag. Cheesy
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 14/08/2014, 20:54:22 UTC
Hey guys,

i dont know if this is a normal behaviour of cudaMiner, cuz i just started to mine a couple of days ago, but my cudaMiner is always telling me, that stratum has detected a new block, but it's finding an accepted share extreme rarely.

Code:
[2014-08-14 18:58:29] Stratum detected new block
[2014-08-14 18:58:29] GPU #0: GeForce GT 240M, 15.43 khash/s
[2014-08-14 18:59:31] Stratum detected new block
[2014-08-14 18:59:31] GPU #0: GeForce GT 240M, 14.59 khash/s
[2014-08-14 18:59:38] Stratum detected new block
[2014-08-14 18:59:38] GPU #0: GeForce GT 240M, 14.97 khash/s
[2014-08-14 18:59:51] Stratum detected new block
[2014-08-14 18:59:51] GPU #0: GeForce GT 240M, 14.83 khash/s
[2014-08-14 19:00:04] Stratum detected new block
[2014-08-14 19:00:04] GPU #0: GeForce GT 240M, 15.13 khash/s
[2014-08-14 19:00:18] Stratum detected new block
[2014-08-14 19:00:18] GPU #0: GeForce GT 240M, 16.19 khash/s
[2014-08-14 19:00:35] Stratum detected new block
[2014-08-14 19:00:35] GPU #0: GeForce GT 240M, 15.95 khash/s
[2014-08-14 19:00:46] Stratum detected new block
[2014-08-14 19:00:46] GPU #0: GeForce GT 240M, 15.87 khash/s

Thats, what i sometimes get for an hour or even two, before it's finding an accepted share, even my cpu-miner got a bigger rate of accepted shares with just about 6khash/s


the configuration i use:

Code:
cudaminer.exe -H 1 -i 0 -m 1 -l f18x3 -a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://pool:port -u user.worker -p x

i also tried if it would work better, if i allow the autoconfiguration, but there's no difference.

So, can you guys help me pls? is it normal in this way, or is there something going wrong?

15 khash/s is slow like hell. I don't see the point to mine at those rate. You're loosing money (electricity)...
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 18/07/2014, 02:26:13 UTC
any Virus&Trojans inside Cudaminer software ?

Claymore made 100 000$ on the monero miner with 5% tip...

Hidden tip or a legit fee for using his apps?
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Re: [XMR] Monero Client .NET - A GUI wallet made for Windows
by
Poena
on 17/07/2014, 16:11:43 UTC
Please help localizing the client! Most of the translations are almost done, they just need a little touch Smiley
https://www.transifex.com/organization/jojatekok/dashboard/monero-client-net

I reviewed and finished the french translation.

I'm also runing the 0.36.0. So far no random crash but...

Code:
Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Jojatekok.MoneroGUI.ConverterCoinAtomicValueToNullableDisplayValue.ConvertBack(Object value, Type targetType, Object parameter, CultureInfo culture)
   at System.Windows.Data.BindingExpression.ConvertProposedValue(Object value)
   at System.Windows.Data.BindingExpressionBase.UpdateValue()
   at System.Windows.Data.BindingExpressionBase.Dirty()
   at System.Windows.Data.BindingExpressionBase.SetValue(DependencyObject d, DependencyProperty dp, Object value)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValueCommon(DependencyProperty dp, Object value, PropertyMetadata metadata, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType, Boolean isInternal)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValue(DependencyProperty dp, Object value)
   at Xceed.Wpf.Toolkit.Primitives.UpDownBase`1.SyncTextAndValueProperties(Boolean updateValueFromText, String text, Boolean forceTextUpdate)
   at Xceed.Wpf.Toolkit.Primitives.InputBase.OnTextChanged(DependencyObject o, DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.NotifyPropertyChange(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs args)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.UpdateEffectiveValue(EntryIndex entryIndex, DependencyProperty dp, PropertyMetadata metadata, EffectiveValueEntry oldEntry, EffectiveValueEntry& newEntry, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValueCommon(DependencyProperty dp, Object value, PropertyMetadata metadata, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType, Boolean isInternal)
   at Xceed.Wpf.Toolkit.Primitives.UpDownBase`1.TextBox_TextChanged(Object sender, TextChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs.InvokeHandler(Delegate handler, Object target)
   at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised)
   at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args)
   at Xceed.Wpf.Toolkit.AutoSelectTextBox.OnTextChanged(TextChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Controls.Primitives.TextBoxBase.OnTextContainerChanged(Object sender, TextContainerChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Controls.TextBox.OnTextContainerChanged(Object sender, TextContainerChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Documents.TextContainerChangedEventHandler.Invoke(Object sender, TextContainerChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Documents.TextContainer.EndChange(Boolean skipEvents)
   at System.Windows.Documents.TextRangeBase.EndChange(ITextRange thisRange, Boolean disableScroll, Boolean skipEvents)
   at System.Windows.Documents.TextRange.ChangeBlock.System.IDisposable.Dispose()
   at System.Windows.Documents.TextEditorTyping.OnBackspace(Object sender, ExecutedRoutedEventArgs args)
   at System.Windows.Input.CommandBinding.OnExecuted(Object sender, ExecutedRoutedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Input.CommandManager.ExecuteCommandBinding(Object sender, ExecutedRoutedEventArgs e, CommandBinding commandBinding)
   at System.Windows.Input.CommandManager.FindCommandBinding(CommandBindingCollection commandBindings, Object sender, RoutedEventArgs e, ICommand command, Boolean execute)
   at System.Windows.Input.CommandManager.FindCommandBinding(Object sender, RoutedEventArgs e, ICommand command, Boolean execute)
   at System.Windows.Input.CommandManager.OnExecuted(Object sender, ExecutedRoutedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs.InvokeHandler(Delegate handler, Object target)
   at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised)
   at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args)
   at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseTrustedEvent(RoutedEventArgs args)
   at System.Windows.Input.RoutedCommand.ExecuteImpl(Object parameter, IInputElement target, Boolean userInitiated)
   at System.Windows.Input.CommandManager.TranslateInput(IInputElement targetElement, InputEventArgs inputEventArgs)
   at System.Windows.UIElement.OnKeyDownThunk(Object sender, KeyEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs.InvokeHandler(Delegate handler, Object target)
   at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised)
   at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args)
   at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseTrustedEvent(RoutedEventArgs args)
   at System.Windows.Input.InputManager.ProcessStagingArea()
   at System.Windows.Input.InputManager.ProcessInput(InputEventArgs input)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndKeyboardInputProvider.ReportInput(IntPtr hwnd, InputMode mode, Int32 timestamp, RawKeyboardActions actions, Int32 scanCode, Boolean isExtendedKey, Boolean isSystemKey, Int32 virtualKey)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndKeyboardInputProvider.ProcessKeyAction(MSG& msg, Boolean& handled)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.CriticalTranslateAccelerator(MSG& msg, ModifierKeys modifiers)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.OnPreprocessMessage(Object param)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.LegacyInvokeImpl(DispatcherPriority priority, TimeSpan timeout, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Invoke(DispatcherPriority priority, Delegate method, Object arg)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.OnPreprocessMessageThunk(MSG& msg, Boolean& handled)
   at System.Windows.Interop.ComponentDispatcherThread.RaiseThreadMessage(MSG& msg)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.TranslateAndDispatchMessage(MSG& msg)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(DispatcherFrame frame)
   at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(Window window)
   at System.Windows.Application.Run()
   at Jojatekok.MoneroGUI.App.Main()

Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.
   at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethod(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, Boolean constructor)
   at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.UnsafeInvokeInternal(Object obj, Object[] parameters, Object[] arguments)
   at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)
   at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.InvokeImpl()
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
   at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.Invoke()
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.ProcessQueue()
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.WndProcHook(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
   at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(Object o)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.LegacyInvokeImpl(DispatcherPriority priority, TimeSpan timeout, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam)
   at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(MSG& msg)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(DispatcherFrame frame)
   at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(Window window)
   at System.Windows.Application.Run()
   at Jojatekok.MoneroGUI.App.Main()

Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.
   at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethod(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, Boolean constructor)
   at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.UnsafeInvokeInternal(Object obj, Object[] parameters, Object[] arguments)
   at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)
   at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.InvokeImpl()
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
   at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOperation.Invoke()
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.ProcessQueue()
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.WndProcHook(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
   at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(Object o)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.LegacyInvokeImpl(DispatcherPriority priority, TimeSpan timeout, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam)
   at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(MSG& msg)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(DispatcherFrame frame)
   at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(Window window)
   at System.Windows.Application.Run()
   at Jojatekok.MoneroGUI.App.Main()

I got those trying to send to my BITtrex wallet.
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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 17/07/2014, 02:23:19 UTC
In the latest version of NVminer, with all the combined algos, when I am mining XMR is it suppose to slow the machine down to a crawl?

I think so but tsiv releave a version about a week ago that improve this "side effect".

Check the readme file about it. Cheesy
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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 16/07/2014, 20:02:10 UTC
280 h/s is the maximum for xmr?

Pretty much the highest I can get is 285 using -l 8x60 but I applied the regfix included in the last nvminer package, before that I would get BSOD trying to use those setting. Smiley
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Re: [XMR] Monero Client .NET - A GUI wallet made for Windows
by
Poena
on 16/07/2014, 19:54:06 UTC
Yep, I'm using 0.35.0.
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Re: [XMR] Monero Client .NET - A GUI wallet made for Windows
by
Poena
on 16/07/2014, 16:57:23 UTC
First of all thanks a lot for setting up this ultra clean wallet. Cheesy

I do have a question. I have random crash with earlier version and with last version.

Code:
Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Jojatekok.MoneroAPI.ProcessManagers.DaemonManager.JsonQueryData[T](JsonRpcRequest jsonRpcRequest)
   at Jojatekok.MoneroAPI.ProcessManagers.DaemonManager.QueryNetworkInformation()
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.TimerQueueTimer.CallCallback()
   at System.Threading.TimerQueueTimer.Fire()
   at System.Threading.TimerQueue.FireNextTimers()

Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Jojatekok.MoneroAPI.ProcessManagers.DaemonManager.JsonQueryData[T](JsonRpcRequest jsonRpcRequest)
   at Jojatekok.MoneroAPI.ProcessManagers.DaemonManager.QueryNetworkInformation()
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.TimerQueueTimer.CallCallback()
   at System.Threading.TimerQueueTimer.Fire()
   at System.Threading.TimerQueue.FireNextTimers()

Here's crashlog.txt

With 8GB of ram could it be a RAM issue?
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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 04/07/2014, 19:31:00 UTC
Be patient there will be more opportunities. Right now I cant complain I made ROI with the JPC and MIN. Lets start pilling some BTC for those 880. Tongue
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 30/06/2014, 00:31:46 UTC
I'm looking at all the different 750 Ti cards, not sure which one to order.

I'm debating between the ASUS http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121855&cm_re=750_ti-_-14-121-855-_-Product

or maybe even the Gigabyte one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125502&cm_re=750_ti-_-14-125-502-_-Product

At the end of the day, does it even really matter?
My Gigabyte have been rock solids so far. (5x) The only things I would consider a 750ti without 6-pins connector. With five GPU I don't have any more 6-pins or molex connector I can safely use. Sad
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Re: [ANN][JPC]JackpotCoin#Unique JHA Algo#Ultra Fast Trans#1st True PoW/PoS Hybrid
by
Poena
on 28/06/2014, 01:25:29 UTC
I got to admit allcrypt is the fastest exchange I tried so far. Especially when it come to withdrawing BTC, usually it was almost instant withdrawal. At first, I really dislike the UI but who care? It's functionnal and the priority order really worth the extra %. I would go back there anytime if possible.
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 26/06/2014, 18:37:09 UTC
I tried the nvidia test drive. I got DC maybe 15 seconds after runing tsiv CCminer and now if I try to reconnect its telling me that my minutes are all exhausted. Sad
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 26/06/2014, 00:23:12 UTC
Quick warning I left my XMR wallet open for one day and I got for 100GB of bandwith during that time. My internet quota is busted until the 14 of July. XD

 Grin
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 24/06/2014, 23:43:50 UTC
I'm giving a try to monero getting 200-225H/s with some OC.

PC is runing great (on Windows 7). My 3570k is arround 35-40% (OC at 4.7Ghz) with five 750ti.

Big thanks tsiv! Smiley

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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 22/06/2014, 03:16:06 UTC
Anyway when I bought my 750ti I never tought I would some day be able to compete with 500-600$  AMD High End GPU. What Christian did with those little 750ti is awesome. XD
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 17/06/2014, 01:49:41 UTC
Being that I mine on NiceHash with nVIDIA cards I can't use the auto-switching feature because the best nVIDIA mining tools (ccminer and cudaminer) don't support it.  To that end, I've come up with a Windows Program, Nice Hash Control which can start and stop mining apps based on which one is currently most profitable.  Hope this helps, and please send a few mBTC my way if you find it useful.

http://stuffofinterest.com/NiceHashControl/NiceHashControl-1.0.0.png

BTW, the recent ccminer 1.2 release made for a nice bump in earnings on X11 and X13. Grin Screen shot above is what I'm getting with two GTX 750 Ti cards.

If someone could merge your apps with Bomba profitability Calculator and autoswitch to another coin on a watch list it would be awesome...! Cheesy
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
by
Poena
on 16/06/2014, 02:06:19 UTC
I was on tac@supernova on a 12h period I got 71 TAC. My worker was lucky and got 6 blocks (123TAC). Still 71 TAC is way under the expected if using Bombadil apps or pool estimation Sad Thats with 5 750ti and with 98% accepted shared. Anyway back on JPC for now.