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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 04/06/2018, 07:09:20 UTC
Dear NVO Team,
I don't know if you really care, but there is a recently launched decentralized escrow platform called Payfair. Their website is Payfair.io. They are listing projects on there for a very small fee until their platform gains more traction. We the investors would greatly appreciate it if you would reach out to them and get NVST listed on their platform, so that we can trade freely. At the moment, we are being held hostage with no volume on Counterwallet.io. I'm not sure if any of you really care since you already have our money, but we'd really appreciate it. It's the least that you can do for stringing us along for 1 year with nothing to show for our investment.

Thank You!

Signed:
NVO Investors


I feel for you man.... Take care, don't play with money that you cannot accept a total loss on.

I've yet to come across a successful ICO that has empty announcement channels, and no github code.

It's intentional that the tokens are difficult to liquidate, I'm sorry for your losses
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 03/06/2018, 07:30:19 UTC
Tell me, what's the matter with the project now? the token sale has already passed? the token is traded on the exchange?

Imagine getting paid 1500 bitcoins for writing a whitepaper, without repercussion !!!

Of course the token is not traded on any exchanges, gotta make it hard for people to sell you know.

to be honest I did not particularly understand what you said and how it is connected, but would appreciate if you could explain. thanks)

Spend a few nights write up a whitepaper, leave investors in the dark, feed them with endless delays, get paid 1500, sorry, 3000 BTCs for it.

Feed the suckers (sorry, investors) with BS every now and then, miss all the deadlines, no github code, no Skype recording, no progress update, no independent audit, no proof of any work being done, no proof of even the existance of a development team, no technical blueprint on the workings of the Validator, no announcements, no marketing, no PR, no easy ways for people to cash out.

Enjoy the 6-star hotel in Dubai, or a nice beach in Greek, with the free money Smiley

Damn, life is good, for the developers.!
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 02/06/2018, 19:16:37 UTC
Tell me, what's the matter with the project now? the token sale has already passed? the token is traded on the exchange?

Imagine getting paid 1500 bitcoins for writing a whitepaper, without repercussion !!!

Of course the token is not traded on any exchanges, gotta make it hard for people to sell you know.
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 02/06/2018, 19:07:24 UTC
What a sham this project is, the #2 holder is liquidating and good luck to his sale.  This guy must know something and better to lose 35% than 100%.

Despite repeated reassurance of Q1 DEX, we are approaching the end of Q2 and the CEX is still nowhere in sight, oh wait, the wallet is still buggy.

Of course, sick, high blood pressure etc are regularly used to quench the public's demand for progress updates.

Funny that there are still NVST holders thinking that the escrows actually mean something, ouch!
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 16/05/2018, 22:21:10 UTC
My comment is shrieking everyone?  lol

And I'll bet that my questions will remain unanswered, this team lack substances.
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 16/05/2018, 21:32:44 UTC
Why was NVO withdrawn from the coinmarketcap?  Huh Huh

More and more obscure.

Excuses are plentiful, delivery is minimal,

What else do you expect from this "team"?

My expectations have greatly diminished with all these delays in sequence.


You do realize, this team has many unanswered technical questions that are critical to the project:

What is the validator?  Where is it run on?  How is it decentralized?  What is the incentives for running a validator node/server/host?  Where and how are the private keys stored in the middle of all these?  Assuming that some solution actually exists, how does such a distributed system handle 100000 TPS, with latency and all?

Now tell me which successful ICO have their announcements channel EMPTY a year after launch?
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 16/05/2018, 04:33:27 UTC
Why was NVO withdrawn from the coinmarketcap?  Huh Huh

More and more obscure.

Excuses are plentiful, delivery is minimal,

What else do you expect from this "team"?
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Re: [PRESALE] Xenio Blockchain | 🌟🌟🌟 Decentralized Gaming Blockchain🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 10/12/2017, 02:32:01 UTC
This so called escrow is probably paid for by Nemgun's team, with the escrow money.  This is to create the illusion of independent third party.

If you don't see the problem in this, then a fool and his money will soon....
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 07/12/2017, 19:35:51 UTC
Where is the wallet? delayed for 100th time?

No news... But remember there is no more deadline now, just indication that it will be soon.
I hope that they did not shoot themselves once again in their feet by announcing on Twitter though

the wallet will never be released by this scam team, they have a long list of unfinished projects and no shortage of scammy red flags, see:
https://steemit.com/xenio/@prisoneroflies/due-diligence-on-nvst
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
by
PrisonerOfLies
on 30/11/2017, 18:42:16 UTC

if not, then where to go 70% of all our investments?
Yes. What do you think was going to happen with the remainder if they didn't deliver?


If this is the case, then investors really don't have much to worry about.  Actually the more surprising this is why the price is so low.  If the devs cannot deliver on their promises and the initial investments are returned, the prices are severely undervalued... Although I will say most of crypto is in a free-fall, so maybe NVO/XCP are just along for the ride. I know there are plenty of bugs involved in developing software, let's just hope that the team can integrate the wallet with the DEX somewhat seamlessly.  That would be significantly more important than dropping a wallet now.

I want my ETHs back, how can I get back 70% of it?  I no longer want to invest as they deviate significantly from the whitepaper.
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 21/11/2017, 04:20:43 UTC
Now very officially: (announcements channel on Slack)
Quote from: Ton Bi
"We don't have a specific date on when the NVO wallet will be out. New deadline is before the end of November."
November 31 is then the new deadline.
I will personally stop holding if they delay again.

I don't think they will be ready before the end of the month, and you seem to lack confidence in the project, so you'd better sell now.

If not then we can assume that devs don't work seriously at all... If they just said some time before November 1: "We are sorry guys, we are in trouble, we need 1-2 more months to complete the wallet" then I would have accepted to wait more. This is normal to encounter unexpected problems. But it looks like that they don't even want to admit that they have severe difficulties and just make false promises hoping for a miracle.
Yeah, I have lost faith but maybe in 10 days, they will (they should because this deadline was clearly announced) finish this wallet and finally give actual proof of work, so I choose to wait for this last deadline, hoping to get the confidence back.
Many investors already sold their tokens and crashed the price, many will continue holding these even if they delay again, I am just not as patient as these holders.
This is money that I can afford to lose so even if the price remains very low after November 30, this will not be a problem. If the price becomes really low, I could even send all my NVST to the burn address so all the holders after this point will be automatically a bit richer.

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I asked - do you know how I can get my escrow ETH back?  If you are not going to say something useful, then your response is not necessary.

I don't think that it is possible... Just wait, if failure or scam is confirmed then escrows should issue at least partial refunds (with unused money), and if the project succeeds then you will just have to sell your tokens for a decent price.

Thanks for the response resu, it's useful.  Agree that the devs do the bare minimum to calm investors.  Important communications like Skype calls are missing.  It's a red flag for much bigger problems that they are trying to hide.  Good luck!
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 21/11/2017, 01:19:23 UTC
More delays with wallet, more excuses.... How can I get my escrow money back?

Sorry dude, it's their money now.

Actually it is the investors money still at this stage as nothing has been produced and since presented developments have not been delivered they are obligated to refund deposited funds if requested.If you deposited/invested 1 eth you are entitled to 1 eth back and not the fiat value.This way if ethereum was now only worth a fraction of what it was at initial time of offering there would not be a deficit and if there was a surge in ethereum price there would be no surplus.What went in must come out as presented.Any misrepresentation of this is misleading.


This is my point, so do you know how I can get my money back?  I paid with ETH
By selling your coins if you want to exit.

Not asking your opinion thanks.  Can someone else point me to the instructions on how to get my escrow ETH back? 
This has nothing to do with opinions. This is the matter of the facts.

I asked - do you know how I can get my escrow ETH back?  If you are not going to say something useful, then your response is not necessary.
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 21/11/2017, 00:51:43 UTC
More delays with wallet, more excuses.... How can I get my escrow money back?

Sorry dude, it's their money now.

Actually it is the investors money still at this stage as nothing has been produced and since presented developments have not been delivered they are obligated to refund deposited funds if requested.If you deposited/invested 1 eth you are entitled to 1 eth back and not the fiat value.This way if ethereum was now only worth a fraction of what it was at initial time of offering there would not be a deficit and if there was a surge in ethereum price there would be no surplus.What went in must come out as presented.Any misrepresentation of this is misleading.


This is my point, so do you know how I can get my money back?  I paid with ETH
By selling your coins if you want to exit.

Not asking your opinion thanks.  Can someone else point me to the instructions on how to get my escrow ETH back? 
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 21/11/2017, 00:40:52 UTC
More delays with wallet, more excuses.... How can I get my escrow money back?

Sorry dude, it's their money now.

Actually it is the investors money still at this stage as nothing has been produced and since presented developments have not been delivered they are obligated to refund deposited funds if requested.If you deposited/invested 1 eth you are entitled to 1 eth back and not the fiat value.This way if ethereum was now only worth a fraction of what it was at initial time of offering there would not be a deficit and if there was a surge in ethereum price there would be no surplus.What went in must come out as presented.Any misrepresentation of this is misleading.


This is my point, so do you know how I can get my money back?  I paid with ETH
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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 20/11/2017, 17:20:32 UTC
NVO will join the long list of unfinished projects initiated by nemgun while he raises more money for Xenio
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Re: [PRESALE] Xenio Blockchain | 🌟🌟🌟 Decentralized Gaming Blockchain🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 20/11/2017, 09:03:06 UTC
It's worth mentioning that 'Escrow Services' is Lauda's project as well - check his profile.
So both Imed (nemgun) and Lauda (probably nemgun too) are cooperating in the same project.
Lauda is mod here who gives every crytic person negative feedback, and suprisingly, he's an escrow keeper for both NVO & XENIO.
If they are not the same person then they are good fellows for sure. Escrows should be neutral, shouldn't they? Smiley



Speaking of this Lauda so-called "escrow".  This person was aggressively calling me names when I asked politely about the altcoin addresses for NVO.  And the response was "none of my concern".  How is my escrow money none of my concern?

By the way, if the escrow is paid for by the investors' money, that's some serious conflict of interest.  Fox guarding the hen house.
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Re: [PRESALE] Xenio Blockchain | 🌟🌟🌟 Decentralized Gaming Blockchain🌟🌟🌟
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PrisonerOfLies
on 20/11/2017, 08:29:43 UTC
This nemgun (Imed) has a long list of unfinished projects:

BlueMed, Versersus, NVO, Stakecoin, Escrow Services, Signature Campaign Manager Services, etc etc.

With no github profiles, no codes to prove while self-proclaiming genius and solve the world's problem.  All technical questions are missing and every valid question is answered with more jibberish and incomprehensable combination of words.  After that, if someone is not satisfied with the answer, the tone changes and suddenly everything is an attack, threat, insult, provocation etc.

They also have a love for stealing affiliations to make it sound like their project is somewhat endorsed, partnered, affiliated.  Of course, every time they were caught, it becomes a "mistake".

Think twice before parting your coins into this scam!

Always do your due diligence!
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Re: what is the best ico for me as a newbie
by
PrisonerOfLies
on 20/11/2017, 08:16:56 UTC
I recommend United Traders. Look who leads this project. these are famous people in business. they value their reputation

Are they good?
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Re: BTC or BCH???
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PrisonerOfLies
on 19/11/2017, 06:53:47 UTC
While I agree that 2MB blocksize is needed to buy time to implement another solution for micro transaction, I disagree the ethics of Bitcoin Cash.

Also large block size is not without its own problem - the mining will be even more centralized than it already is.

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Re: Strategy for taking profits during pump (palmbeach confidential)
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PrisonerOfLies
on 19/11/2017, 06:19:27 UTC
If I have figured out a strategy, I would not be sharing it Tongue