UTC 11:29 AM
Saturday, January 25, 2025

24H WIN RATIO : 71.07% | 24H WINS PAID : 2,329,913$ | ALL TIME WINS PAID : 1,072,643,382$

Hello, and Merry Christmas! 🎅🎄

The main reason why is not possible to set a custom timer is liquidity management. As our games are p2p we need players betting against one another, and it would be near impossible to achieve this with custom timers. This is why we rely on predefined ones.

We did run some tests during the past years with other pool timers, and it shown an increasing engagement and fun of game with the current ones.

We are using : dxFeed (https://dxfeed.com/).

Hello, just a reminder...

There are absolutely no deposit(s) whatsoever on our platform.

Players keeps their funds inside their own wallets until the very moment they decide to place a bet.

Our smart contracts then holds funds for one bet at a time (for a few seconds), before distributing it back to the winner(s).

Our platform has no license, and it is no kyc, because it is fully decentralized and open source + we don't have deposits.

Don't Trust, Verify.

Also, play safe!

UTC 9:49 AM
Thursday, December 19, 2024

24H WIN RATIO : 56.72% | 24H WINS PAID : 7,954,506$ | ALL TIME WINS PAID : 868,771,561$

Agreed. We will, and we have been active in the best possible manner until now.

Bitwinup and us are sharing the same back-end team and software, players knows that. This is why there is no much question to answer since we first posted our announcement here.

Agreed. We will, and we have been active in the best manner possible until now.

Bitwinup and us are sharing the same back-end team and software, players knows that. This is why there is no much question to answer since we first posted our announcement here.

Hello, would you rather send your funds to a platform in order to play than connecting your wallet to sign the games transactions of a decentralized service? It is important for you to understand that as we are truly decentralized, we can't hold any funds.

Our platform is actually deposit-free, meaning you are playing directly from your wallet without ever depositing or sending any funds to us. We never hold your money.

Every player is in full possession of their wallet. They can use a Metamask to connect (dedicated to the game for increased security) for example, but they can also use their social or email if they prefer, with Web3Auth a wallet will automatically be created giving them access and control of their private key.

The way we allow users to use fiat money and still being fully decentralized, is by simply giving the players an easy access to external services where they can buy crypto to fund their wallets (ex : TransFi for bank transfer, and transak.com for card payments). They are not actually depositing money to us, and we never process any payment whatsoever.

No, we do not plan to impose KYC verification in the future.

Hey there

I will try to answer all questions that I feel are relevant by this post since my last time here. If you feel that I missed something, please quote it to bring it back on the table. If new question(s) come to your mind, also please, do not hesitate to ask on this thread.


You are right, bitcoin.com game is a mirror, you can validate this claim by going through their game page, and checking the smart contracts used to perform the rounds of each games. The smart contracts they use are the same as https://PumpFight.com. By doing that, you'll also notice the pools of players are indeed shared.


Giving the exact right support is a top priority for every single business, so I do fully agree with you. Creating this thread is part of the process of giving players more room to reach out to the community and admins for eventual help. As our game is fully open source, everyone can dig and find answers if an issue arises for someone.


Thank you for pointing this out, and adding more precision to your first post. I think most of the future PumpFight players here would appreciate some words about how actually the payouts and commission works, even though as all of this information is already publicly available, I am sure the current players that registered from here did already checked the full games terms

In short : the platform gets 5% flat fee from only the winning pools. There is no fee anywhere else in the platform. But as I mentioned earlier :


The multiplier the players bets for, as an outcome of the pool he enters, is the actual multiplier he is aiming for : already taking the platform fee into account.
Also, it may sometimes happen that there is some ties on some assets. The starting price of the round may be the same as the ending price of the round, in that case the funds are distributed back to players and the platform does not get any fee from the round (because there is no "winning pool").

Thanks to this commission structure, some players do even engage in an arbitrage strategy, taking only advantaged trades. Due to the PVP nature of the games, payouts can sometimes go as high as 300%-400%.

And why exactly do you see a 17% potential "fee" in the payout, is because on that particular pool : 12% is redistributed to the users as Jackpot (as for now), for liquidity purposes.

The pool you picked up is the only one with such high percentage going back to the users as Jackpot and not as direct payout. It is usually and for most pools only 1% that goes to Jackpot funds.


You can verify the platform commission is 5% for every game by heading to the smart contract -> read contract -> feeJackpotPercentage (fee used as Jackpot) / feePercentage (actual platform fee).


Here are all the smart contract of our games :

Forex EUR/USD 30' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x0167BbB18EF14EB9781c525c163BB92d8D8FFEFF?tab=contract
Forex EUR/USD VIP 30' (higher limits) : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0xAfE7B716479022faC516F418427Fb5FE5968EcB0?tab=contract
Forex JPY/USD 30' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x5b667c710d7344670b7099eB2536303Cd2663be6?tab=contract
Forex JPY/USD VIP 30' (higher limits) : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0xa522abb205Cfcb90482cdc9DD4aC53f5A3ECC37E?tab=contract
Forex GBP/USD 30' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x41D1dd7cCa5923495B75d635C744190C2cc1b1C5?tab=contract
Gold 30' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x061581a325fFc28a3521290e283D891040365f1D?tab=contract
Gold VIP 30' (higher limits) : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0xE1B06cF9636e7D7cd051af5e84339326303cD401?tab=contract
Oil 30' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x2Fd3E66Bb90De43B6204d491729727040c684efc?tab=contract
NASDAQ 30' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0xE1a24DCd7C81198E653f7b7e1D36793bDab4DA7d?tab=contract
BTC 5' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x3A8C045BD27d0C059d8A3C0110267c4d2822e9bD?tab=contract
BTC 15' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x02D3056B85578f1711481fD70Ae95e796B286697?tab=contract
BTC 30' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x41d35a75b7E16114E6A11B8b52c3Eea3A48D38cC?tab=contract
ETH 60' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0xDae35d2D5C0Aa167C5D231287328dFc3c1b6F939?tab=contract
SOL 60' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x2AcbFDAAF70697fF195f37b75E4922e61f6176C6?tab=contract
BNB 60' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x021bf434Ddaa1D41261cc2DFBBD6dF9815021035?tab=contract
DOGE 60' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x61eF34c875e9f902fd18F38F387B89586821332B?tab=contract
SHIBA 60' : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x43E7Ce35ae4F610A17618B5B0f1d057eEFB5f4D6?tab=contract



Based on that, this is a good thing for us : we have same commission, but we play with real assets at https://pumpfight.com/trade : (Crypto, Forex, Nasdaq, Gold, Oil).


We do not rely on a simple BTC prediction game, but a BTC, ETH, SOL, BNB, DOGE, SHIBA + Forex, Gold, Oil prediction games.


As our games are open sourced, you can track the actual volume of games by yourself. You can do this by clicking on one of the last game, and head to "Check Hash", all transactions are public. Each games relies on one smart contract, for example the BTC 15 second pool is played on this smart contract : 0x02D3056B85578f1711481fD70Ae95e796B286697 (in the Playblock blockchain : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x02D3056B85578f1711481fD70Ae95e796B286697).

Here is the Certik audit link of our smart contracts by the game provider, Playnance : https://skynet.certik.com/projects/Playnance


You can give a try PumpFight. We often have 1.9 and higher multipliers due to our PVP nature.


Again, there is no copy. We all are partners at the same level with the game provider.

Bitcointalk is a forum of specialists. I believe most players who registered and are now actively playing from this forum did their due diligence before interacting with our games.

Hey there, sorry for the few days off. It was family time.

My name is Nathan by the way

I will try to answer all questions that I feel are relevant by this post since my last time here. If you feel that I missed something, please quote it to bring it back on the table. If new question(s) come to your mind, also please, do not hesitate to ask me.


You are right, bitcoin.com game is a mirror, you can validate this claim by going through their game page, and looking at the smart contracts used to perform the rounds of each games. The smart contracts are the same we use at https://PumpFight.com. By doing that, you'll also notice the pools of players are indeed shared.


Giving the exact right support is a top priority for every single business, so I do fully agree with you. Creating this thread is part of the process of giving players more room to reach out to the community and admins for eventual help. As our game is fully open source, everyone can dig and find answers if an issue arises for someone.


Thank you for pointing this out, and adding more precision to your first post. I think most of the future PumpFight players here would appreciate some words about how actually the payouts and commission works, even though as all of this information is already publicly available, I am sure the current players that registered from here did already checked the full games terms

In short : the platform gets 5% flat fee from only the winning pools. There is no fee anywhere else in the platform. But as I mentioned earlier :


The multiplier the players bets for, as an outcome of the pool he enters, is the actual multiplier he is aiming for : already taking the platform fee into account.
Also, it may sometimes happen that there is some ties on some assets. The starting price of the round may be the same as the ending price of the round, in that case the funds are distributed back to players and the platform does not get any fee from the round (because there is no "winning pool").

The beauty of this commission structure is that, some players do even engage in an arbitrage strategy, taking only advantaged trades.

And why exactly do you see a 17% potential "fee" in the payout? This is because on that particular pool : 12% is redistributed to the users as Jackpot (as for now), for liquidity purposes.

The pool you picked up is the only one with such high percentage going back to the users as Jackpot and not as payout. It is usually and for most pools only 1% that goes to Jackpot funds.


Based on what you say, we are in competition : we have same commission, but we play with real assets at https://pumpfight.com/trade : (Crypto, Forex, Nasdaq, Gold, Oil).


Our site do not relies on a simple BTC prediction game, but a BTC, ETH, SOL, BNB, DOGE, SHIBA + Forex, Gold, Oil prediction games.


As our games are open sourced, you can track the actual volume of games by yourself. You can do this by clicking on one of the last game, and head to "Check Hash", all transactions are public. Each games relies on one smart contract, for example the BTC 15 second pool is played on this smart contract : 0x02D3056B85578f1711481fD70Ae95e796B286697 (in the Playblock blockchain : https://explorer.playblock.io/address/0x02D3056B85578f1711481fD70Ae95e796B286697).

Here is the Certik audit link of the game provider, Playnance : https://skynet.certik.com/projects/Playnance


You can give a try PumpFight. We often have 1.9 and higher multipliers.


Again, there is no copy. We all are partners at the same level with the game provider : Playnance.

Bitcointalk is a forum of technical people, I am sure most players who registered and are now actively playing from this forum did their due diligence before interacting with our games.

I'll try to be active at least twice a week here to answer all future relevant questions you may have

Hello, thank you  you can navigate the website, going through the different pools of the game to see live active players. Starting from here : https://pumpfight.com/trade

For the past 12 months the games had an average daily volume of about $2.5m, ($7.6m volume today, at the time of writing). The lifetime volume wagered for all pools sits somewhere around +$800m and may reach 1b in q1 2025.

Most active pools (on weekdays) are Forex, Nasdaq, Gold, & Oil. You won't be playing alone 


To my knowledge, only a few (one I can think of) disappeared and it didn't caused any financial loss to anyone, this is very important to underline. How pumpfight works may be illustrated as a satellite : our platform is no more than a portal required to access Up and Down game developed by Playnance. This is how the overall structure works for every website running this script. Some rare one(s) may fail to stay online, but this relies on how serious the partner is with his business and it does not involves the game/pool provider.


This is so true. So, our platform is not totally new, in fact. We are sharing the same software, and most important : we share the exact same liquidity pools with every others platforms running this Up and Down game. Each platform (like https://pumpfight.com/) contribute to onboard players, enhancing the global liquidity for every platform connected to the game.

It brings the crucial liquidity the players needs.

As an example, https://www.bitcoin.com/ a website which you may know is also part of our team. You can find it's portal (copy of https://pumpfight.com/) at the address https://games.bitcoin.com/up-or-down, or by navigating through bitcoin.com website and finding the "games" tab. If you open both platform (https://pumpfight.com/trade & https://games.bitcoin.com/up-or-down) you will see that we share the same pool of players even though we do not have the same website.


Our house edge is 0%. PumpFight is not a house based platform, players are betting against each other. But platform's profits should still be generated somehow. So the commission is taken as a percentage from only the winning pool (and not on every bet placed). The commission is taken into account inside the displayed "potential profits" of each bet. Thus, a player knows the exact potential outcome of a winning trade, including the fees of the platform, before the bet is even placed.

As we constantly have more than 50% winning rate, it allows us and our partners to attract highrollers by maintaining such a commission logic.

Also, no much game do offer bets on commodities without KYC and in a fully decentralized manner.

Quite not comparable with traditional casinos.

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