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it'll be easier because this is a moderated thread - so no troll fest is possible 
LOL I like it. Though this is absolutely not my philosophy of life, this thread is so refreshing to read, as all the stupid comments are deleted
I like the reaction. I only hope most part of initial investors would do that. In Qora everybody was also saying "not selling under 100 sat!!!" and now lots of people is dumping at 50. The same with Nem: "no sell orders under 100-150K Nxt for 1M coins!!!" and the price went down to 13K.
Dumpers please PM me.
Hope you can find a better name though
Suggest. We tried.
lol I suck in that department
Nice coin, I invested 2.5 today. I can invest more if you want it but didn't want to skew the distribution too much, as an even and wide distribution is needed to avoid complaints made against NXT for example. I like this coin and will help promote it after you launch. Hope you can find a better name though
Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp
Hi,
As promised, I'm currently working on an infographic and other promo materials.
http://i.imgur.com/FTL8o5V.png
This is the first draft. Constructive criticisms please. I used the reference given here for DarkSend.
http://i.imgur.com/FTL8o5V.png
Keep me motivated - Xt2BE83Nwts16Gm3VX8UPfMMbj5haWk514
I only have 0.83 DRK!
As promised, I'm currently working on an infographic and other promo materials.
http://i.imgur.com/FTL8o5V.png
This is the first draft. Constructive criticisms please. I used the reference given here for DarkSend.
http://i.imgur.com/FTL8o5V.png
Keep me motivated - Xt2BE83Nwts16Gm3VX8UPfMMbj5haWk514
I only have 0.83 DRK!
Here are my comments, echoing some of what others have said:
+1 for the word "private" rather than anonymous. A lot of people consider privacy good, but anonymous being associated with shady things.
+1 for a lighter color scheme. The black makes me think it is just for illegal things
The case for privacy has to be made much stronger. It shouldn't be about adult toys. I'd discuss:
- not disclosing your salary to everyone you buy things from. You could graphically illustrate this in "How BitCoin Transfers Work" if you add a salary payment to Joe. Then indicate Joe buys coffee from susan. Susan looks at the blockchain and sees Joe's largish recurring salary payments.
- not disclosing your wealth
- you might consider replacing adult toys with something more well accepted yet private, like a therapist.
There needs to be more technical meat to the part about how coinjoin is implemented, like fixed denominations and returned change. Also emphasize that unlike bitcoin mixing services it does not require trust in any third party.
Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp
To be honest, I'm a little ticked that this started out as "Bounty pool for marketing and branding" and now it's just "Darkcoin bounties" including bug reports etc. I'm fine with that for now, if that's what the funds are most needed for at this point.
But at some point, we need a REAL marketing pool, and it shouldn't be just spent on these incremental increases in value. It should be spent on something AWESOME. Marketing is an art, you don't just pay out a couple hundred bucks to make a slightly better website or translate to an additional language. At least, that's not ultimately the best use of funds when you're ready for mass adoption. Right now, this thread has ~171,000 page views. That's great for now. A liberal estimate means maybe 200,000 people have heard of Darkcoin. All it takes is one good marketing play... one single thing that stands out, and you get over 10 million people that have now heard about your coin. Doge has no technical use whatsoever and is far less interesting than DRK, but a brilliant marketing idea like donating $30k to the jamaiican bobsled team generates over 10 million views. We need to find our own crazy marketing idea. I'm not sure what exactly that is, but something that fits DRK and will get 10 million views based just on one single marketing effort. This doesn't have to cost much, but it will take a decent chunk of any marketing pool and be worth way more than the sum of all of these incremental updates. It could be something like a billboard. You can rent out a billboard for a month that displays digital ads in a high traffic area along the freeway for under $1000/month. This probably isn't the best fit for DRK, but someone has to get creative and figure out what that is.
I'd be willing to donate 5 to 10x my previous contribution to a marketing pool with a real marketing idea like this.
But at some point, we need a REAL marketing pool, and it shouldn't be just spent on these incremental increases in value. It should be spent on something AWESOME. Marketing is an art, you don't just pay out a couple hundred bucks to make a slightly better website or translate to an additional language. At least, that's not ultimately the best use of funds when you're ready for mass adoption. Right now, this thread has ~171,000 page views. That's great for now. A liberal estimate means maybe 200,000 people have heard of Darkcoin. All it takes is one good marketing play... one single thing that stands out, and you get over 10 million people that have now heard about your coin. Doge has no technical use whatsoever and is far less interesting than DRK, but a brilliant marketing idea like donating $30k to the jamaiican bobsled team generates over 10 million views. We need to find our own crazy marketing idea. I'm not sure what exactly that is, but something that fits DRK and will get 10 million views based just on one single marketing effort. This doesn't have to cost much, but it will take a decent chunk of any marketing pool and be worth way more than the sum of all of these incremental updates. It could be something like a billboard. You can rent out a billboard for a month that displays digital ads in a high traffic area along the freeway for under $1000/month. This probably isn't the best fit for DRK, but someone has to get creative and figure out what that is.
I'd be willing to donate 5 to 10x my previous contribution to a marketing pool with a real marketing idea like this.
+1
I am thinking something to do with Edward Snowden might be interesting. If that story had just broke and we were raising funds for him in DRK it would be perfect. The bit about the DRK fundraising would have piggy backed on all the press about him. It's less topical now though. Maybe getting the Snowden Defense Fund to accept Darkcoin would be some news?
If there is ever an individual whose privacy is violated and it becomes national news, fundraising for them may work.
Evan said (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5184431#msg5184431) he would be speaking at the Cryptocurrency Convention on April 9th but don't see him on the speakers list. If there's anything we can do to support him in that or getting similar speaking opportunities I think it is the best use of funds/time in liu of a brilliant marketing idea.
Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (DarkSend) | No Premine | Runs 30% cooler than scryp
One item you should amend to the list is a travel fund, if the dev is into it, to get him to go to (and speak at) conferences. Get noticed and many of those other pieces (like media attention and legit parties willing to audit/test the code) fall into place.
This is a very very good point. Look at all the hype ZeroCoin has got -- basically all they have ever done is give talks (which is the problem with the coin
). I think a very significant portion of this money should be spent going to crypto and bitcoin conferences and presenting the technicals of DarkCoin. One talk will lead to many blog posts and I'm sure even mainstream press. If Evan wants to do that it is ideal; if not we really need to find someone who can.Along those lines, we really need a detailed whitepaper as well.
Hi all,
Suppose I want to establish a prize to encourage space exploration. I get NASA to agree to create a small compartment on their next Mars rover, which I am allowed to place a few small objects into before launch. I want to somehow create a public/private keypair, and place the private key into the compartment in some way (paper key, USB drive, metal engraved key). After the rover is launched, I announce what I have done, along with the public key. Interested bitcoin users then can fund the Mars Bitcoin prize by sending payments to the public address. The first person or group to get to Mars on their own, find the rover, and open the compartment gets the private key, and thus the prize.
Now obviously, some will suspect that I somehow kept the private key, and will simply steal the prize once the funds accumulate. This suspicion will decrease the number of potential funders of the prize, and create accusations against me, which I don't want either.
So the question is, in exactly this scenario, how can I or a group of people best generate the keypair and place the private key into the compartment while assuring to everyone else we did not retain the private key? I have thought about rolling cameras during the whole process, purchasing a new computer on camera, etc., but there will always be suspicion. I am hoping there might be a smarter way to use cryptography here.
Also note of the key options I have mentioned, I would highly prefer the metal engraving. The USB key may get destroyed by radiation, and the paper may burn if containment systems fail.
Suppose I want to establish a prize to encourage space exploration. I get NASA to agree to create a small compartment on their next Mars rover, which I am allowed to place a few small objects into before launch. I want to somehow create a public/private keypair, and place the private key into the compartment in some way (paper key, USB drive, metal engraved key). After the rover is launched, I announce what I have done, along with the public key. Interested bitcoin users then can fund the Mars Bitcoin prize by sending payments to the public address. The first person or group to get to Mars on their own, find the rover, and open the compartment gets the private key, and thus the prize.
Now obviously, some will suspect that I somehow kept the private key, and will simply steal the prize once the funds accumulate. This suspicion will decrease the number of potential funders of the prize, and create accusations against me, which I don't want either.
So the question is, in exactly this scenario, how can I or a group of people best generate the keypair and place the private key into the compartment while assuring to everyone else we did not retain the private key? I have thought about rolling cameras during the whole process, purchasing a new computer on camera, etc., but there will always be suspicion. I am hoping there might be a smarter way to use cryptography here.
Also note of the key options I have mentioned, I would highly prefer the metal engraving. The USB key may get destroyed by radiation, and the paper may burn if containment systems fail.
Hi all,
Suppose I want to establish a prize to encourage space exploration. I get NASA to agree to create a small compartment on their next Mars rover, which I am allowed to place a few small objects into before launch. I want to somehow create a public/private keypair, and place the private key into the compartment in some way (paper key, USB drive, metal engraved key). After the rover is launched, I announce what I have done, along with the public key. Interested bitcoin users then can fund the Mars Bitcoin prize by sending payments to the public address. The first person or group to get to Mars on their own, find the rover, and open the compartment gets the private key, and thus the prize.
Now obviously, some will suspect that I somehow kept the private key, and will simply steal the prize once the funds accumulate. This suspicion will decrease the number of potential funders of the prize, and create acquisitions against me, which I don't want either.
So the question is, in exactly this scenario, how can I or a group of people best generate the keypair and place the private key into the compartment while assuring to everyone else we did not retain the private key? I have thought about rolling cameras during the whole process, purchasing a new computer on camera, etc., but there will always be suspicion.
Also note of the key options I have mentioned, I would highly prefer the metal engraving. The USB key may get destroyed by radiation, and the paper may burn if containment systems fail.
Suppose I want to establish a prize to encourage space exploration. I get NASA to agree to create a small compartment on their next Mars rover, which I am allowed to place a few small objects into before launch. I want to somehow create a public/private keypair, and place the private key into the compartment in some way (paper key, USB drive, metal engraved key). After the rover is launched, I announce what I have done, along with the public key. Interested bitcoin users then can fund the Mars Bitcoin prize by sending payments to the public address. The first person or group to get to Mars on their own, find the rover, and open the compartment gets the private key, and thus the prize.
Now obviously, some will suspect that I somehow kept the private key, and will simply steal the prize once the funds accumulate. This suspicion will decrease the number of potential funders of the prize, and create acquisitions against me, which I don't want either.
So the question is, in exactly this scenario, how can I or a group of people best generate the keypair and place the private key into the compartment while assuring to everyone else we did not retain the private key? I have thought about rolling cameras during the whole process, purchasing a new computer on camera, etc., but there will always be suspicion.
Also note of the key options I have mentioned, I would highly prefer the metal engraving. The USB key may get destroyed by radiation, and the paper may burn if containment systems fail.