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Re: Why I should get a scammer tag.
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Rarity
on 11/10/2012, 00:53:13 UTC
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Maybe that is the lesson in all this.  Forming a real legal entity is trivial these days and cost a nominal amount of money.

Right, I wonder why they didn't do that?

(Their business maybe illegal)

ftfy

Nope, there is no may about it.  Unregulated security trading is not illegal, it doesn't matter what you are trading them for. 
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 11/10/2012, 00:51:49 UTC
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I'm leaning toward to being in agreement with you.

Thank you for your support.
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 11/10/2012, 00:38:07 UTC
First I read about a user wanting to give himself the scammer tag, now a request to apply said tag to a user who has yet to sing Mary had a Little Lamb.

Let us pray:

Heavenly father, Satoshi, hallowed be Thy name, Thy Kingdom come, Give us each day our daily b....

Now onto reading the rest of this thread.

~Bruno~


No, a user who is an expert guitarist with guarantees of world fame falsely delivering a product that was not as advertised in an attempt to scam someone to comply with a written agreement. 
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Re: Why I should get a scammer tag.
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Rarity
on 11/10/2012, 00:36:43 UTC
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Maybe that is the lesson in all this.  Forming a real legal entity is trivial these days and cost a nominal amount of money.

Right, I wonder why they didn't do that?

(Their business is illegal)
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 11/10/2012, 00:21:26 UTC
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if things went as described, I'd say Dank has earned a tag.

Thank you, they did as the quotes I have provided clearly illustrate.

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ridiculous in size this is compared to what's happening out there

The monetary value to a collector of a rare personalized performance from one of the world's greatest musicians early in their career is huge.  The monetary value involved here is tremendous. 
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Re: Why I should get a scammer tag.
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Rarity
on 11/10/2012, 00:11:33 UTC
Generally equity owners (not be confused with directors, executives, employees, officers) are not held liable for the actions of the company

Shareholders, no, but what about partners and officers like Theymos?
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 23:52:19 UTC
You are clearly the one who has no understanding of how business is done.  It is good that is the last you have to say on this since you have added nothing and are clearly an ignoramus.  We had a written agreement for the exchange of goods and services in which a fraudulent attempt to deliver was made.  It is a scam, even if actual real money like Bitcoins has not been exchanged the products in question have monetary value.

It's so funny when someone starts out a troll thread and ends up taking it seriously.

Please exit the thread if all you wish to do is call the authenticity of my attempts to pursue justice into question.  This is a very serious matter for me and has been from the start.  I would not have agreed to cease my efforts to warn members of the forum of some of the dangers of investing with Dank in exchange for this personalized performance if I did not have a strong a legitimate need to do so in order to make my niece happy.  
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Re: Why I should get a scammer tag.
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 23:45:40 UTC
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Why I should get a scammer tag.

I agree, bitcoin.me deserves the scammer tag.
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 23:31:15 UTC
You are clearly the one who has no understanding of how business is done.  It is good that is the last you have to say on this since you have added nothing and are clearly an ignoramus.  We had a written agreement for the exchange of goods and services in which a fraudulent attempt to deliver was made.  It is a scam, even if actual real money like Bitcoins has not been exchanged the products in question have monetary value.
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 23:06:09 UTC
Its a life lesson for your niece, the world is filled with liars and cheats, tell her to get used to it.

Right, go post that in the Nefario thread.
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 23:00:22 UTC
The emotional damages to my niece are only one aspect of this case.  In attempting to defraud me into believing he had played the song requested in accordance to our agreement he was attempting to silence a vocal critic of his business.  He had an economic motive in this scam.
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 22:33:07 UTC
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...as the written agreement?

No, the written agreement was made over several posts and is quoted in full in the first post of this thread.  Please stop wasting my time.

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As nothing was taken from you, this is not a scam. You're right in saying this is an easy open-shut case. There is no scam.

It's like saying somebody shouldn't be charged with bank robbery if the guard thwarts them.  You are an idiot.  Nothing was taken from me because I identified the scam as it was in progress.

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This is just an opinionated statement and absolutely not possible to prove in under the best of circumstances.

Neither of those statements are opinions.  They are facts.

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"I would like for you to do this for me", and he would say "Why yes, I will do this for you by [specified date]". THAT is the most basic verbal (written in this case) contract you can have.

We had an agreement, and this is all spelled out in writing, that if he played Mary Had A Little Lamb (and was given a tab to show what song I meant) I would agree to perform certain actions.  There is no need for dates or "Why Yes" since it was conditional on Dank making the effort.  I later asked him to post the song in accordance to our agreement, and he claimed he was doing so with the posted song.  This is when the scam occurred, had he simply never claimed to have played it there would be no complaint.  The agreement did not require him to.  The scam is in claiming to have fulfilled the agreement when he did not in an attempt to falsely claim payment.
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 22:22:50 UTC
Rarity, that is my version of Mary Had a Little Lamb, just for you.  Perhaps if you didn't spam my threads with the same questions, I would have turned the distortion down and tuned my guitar before recording.

You cannot sell a car and deliver a bike and act as if it is all the same.  The product did not match the tune or rhythm of the provided tab.  It is not a matter of interpretation.  Even properly tuned and undistorted the notes played would not be identifiable as the requested song.

In a false attempt to claim this as the product promised and not the entirely distinct song it was, you have now admitted instead to purposefully providing a low quality unrecognizable product.  Such an intentional action out of spite to provide an unrecognizable product is an admission of scamming.   You may as well have agreed to sell me a hamburger but instead sold a hot dog you spit on.  Clearly not the agreed upon product.

If you are indeed capable of playing Mary Had A Little Lamb in a recognizable manner which as an expert guitar player you surely can, you can provide your defense by recording it and posting it for this thread.  Given your history of fraud, however, you should do it on video and provide us with identification.
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 21:44:12 UTC
I did not ask for a favor, I had a written agreement as documented in the very first post of this thread.  I was not "satisfied" because the agreed upon product was not delivered and was falsely represented as genuine in an attempt to get me to comply with our agreement.  This is a scam by the most basic of definitions.  

The monetary gain for Dank in this scam was to silence a vocal critic of his business practices and the monetary value of recorded music is well established.
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Re: Nefario
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 21:19:35 UTC
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why he doesn't have the balls to deal directly with the community himself?  

Gee I dunno, could it be because this community turns into a pitchfork wielding mob that doesn't think straight and blames the wrong people?  It's amazing Theymos is getting away with whipping up a mob on his forum while whitewashing his involvement in all this.  Wake up, people.

Screw the English police- James wants to play at gangsters? Let's have some hard boys speak with him and see if gentle persuasion will loosen his grip on the money that isn't his.

Nef's car:


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Re: Scammer: Dank
by
Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 21:03:21 UTC
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1) Was payment required for services?
2) Is there sufficient evidence of a contract? Verbal or otherwise, though written is preferred (shouldn't be so hard since this is on the internet...)
3) What was your net loss as a result of working with Dank?

Yes, Yes, I called out the scam before my payment was required.  My loss in not getting the recording I promised is vast, the value of an early rare personalized recording from a great musician is vast.

As Dank is offering no explanation, denial, or defense I believe this case remains open and shut.

Part 1)
So let me get this straight. You were going to pay him for the song...but didn't pay him because you didn't get what you wanted (but you did, in fact, receive something)?

I did not receive the product that was promised.  The fact that I did not make payment is irrelevant as the purpose of the tag is to warn people in the future that the tagged breaks their agreements.  The user in question solicits large amounts of money through this forum and can not be trusted to stand by his word.  

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Dank did deliver a recording to you that very very very vaguely resembles a shitty quality "Mary had a little lamb", did he not? You can claiming he's scamming you because the quality didn't match your standards? From what I'm gathering, Rarity, you are the scammer as you haven't paid for services rendered by Dank.

By no standards was this the requested song according to the provided tab.  It was not poor quality, it was a different song.  If you maintain a standard where people can lie entirely about the products they sell on the forum there will be no reason for anyone to ever continue to buy and sell here.  If someone promises to sell an iPhone and instead sends a low quality flip phone they should not receive leniency for simply sending a phone.

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You're view of a "great musician" needs a bit of work my friend. I'm not entirely sure rubbing your testicles on some guitar strings to make sounds qualifies as music...but I suppose who am I to judge.

Dank himself has made the promise of music greatness, if you are telling me he has misrepresented this than it is just more proof he is untrustworthy and has operated a scam.

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I'm not trying to be a dick here, I'm just giving an outside opinion on the matter after reading through this thread. Honestly, it's utterly idiotic. Unless there's a substantial amount of evidence posted I don't think I can vote either way yet. But based on what I've seen already there isn't a scam here.

We have a written agreement for a product to be provided, it was not.  There is nothing to debate.
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Re: Scammer: Dank
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 17:08:51 UTC
Would you be happy if I made a youtube video of me singing this song for you?

Absolutely not.  Dank is an exceptional musician who my niece and myself are fans of, he has made assurances he will be one of the most famous and talented musicians in the world.  These are the reasons I stood to gain personally and economically in negotiating to receive a recording of Mary Had A Little Lamb from him. 
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Re: Scammer: Dank
by
Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 16:27:18 UTC
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1) Was payment required for services?
2) Is there sufficient evidence of a contract? Verbal or otherwise, though written is preferred (shouldn't be so hard since this is on the internet...)
3) What was your net loss as a result of working with Dank?

Yes, Yes, I called out the scam before my payment was required.  My loss in not getting the recording I promised is vast, the value of an early rare personalized recording from a great musician is vast.

As Dank is offering no explanation, denial, or defense I believe this case remains open and shut.
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Re: Scammer tag: theymos ; bitcoin.me ; others unknown at this time.
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Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 16:01:16 UTC
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I'm not going to keep responding to these ridiculous accusations based on rumors and assumptions.

Sounds like you just admitted to them all, just with the caveat that you were going to stop the lies and lies of omissions later if you got a sucker on the hook.  Sure you would have.  Sure!
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Re: Scammer: Dank
by
Rarity
on 10/10/2012, 15:51:08 UTC
The perpetrator of the fraud is offering no defense and refusing to discuss terms to address the issue.  Our deal is written and agreed to in plain terms and has been broken.  A fraudulent product was attempted to be passed off as fulfilling our agreement.  It is time to give Dank the tag, if he is willing to violate agreements he should not be running a Bank or otherwise accepting payments with promise of later fulfilling his obligations on this forum without users knowing the value of his word as a businessman.