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The forever down coin, I liquidated my position on this trash long ago. Useless leadership that doesn't take solid advice from people who know how markets work.
There was no incentive for Rijk to make the 2 coins a success as he comes from a rich family. His dad is a well known lawyer in my country and Plasman family is well off. Control was more important then success, although he preached no control , the actions was all control.
Gulden and Florin failing = Rijk still has a good life which is why he didn't work hard for the coins success and expected others to do the work.
Again 10.000xfl locked in holding for 3 years. The investors seem to be committed long-term
For early investors that got in before the supply manipulation took place it is a good investment, if I knew Rijk was going to cut the supply of Novo and change the name I would of also purchased 1000s of coins. The same if Rijk told us he was selling Gulden before he sold , everyone would sell but you have to be a insider to get this information.
The supply change was openly discussed in slack before it occured. He talked about thoroughly and only once people approved the plan the changes were made. So your whole argument is bs. You could have bought 1000s of coins. But you didn’t.
holding is not good when it first started, when my holding account expires I will keep the coins free. A lot of the premine is in holding accounts and those investors are going to earn most of the coins. No hope for the small guy and girl holding with 30-50 florin is not going to earn much.
Investors keeping their coins free: ThIs IS NoT GoOd!
Investors locking their coins for 3 years: ThIs Is nOT gOOd!
no no, it's very good for big premine investors to hold because they can earn $1000 a day ova all the big holding accounts but not for small investors with one or two 30-50 holding accounts.
I make a mistake in my other post, it shall say holding is good when it started but not good for small holders anymore.
Rijk earning $1000 a day on holding. GG Rijk GG, no airdrop for holders and your premined coins excluding the small guys.
I have just indicated to the GAB that I will no longer strive for a new Gulden or an adjustment of the current Gulden. It costs me too much energy and I can't think of a good solution, maybe I'm just completely wrong and it's good as it is. I will therefore no longer post texts about a whale problem or anything in that direction.
However, one challenge remains and that is budget for development. I don't know how we can solve that, but it is a problem.
Thanks for everyone who contributed to the discussion in any way. All input has been useful to me. The discussion was fierce and unfiltered, especially on my part. That's who I am and I can't pretend otherwise, also because I see others as equal and experience it that way, since the responses my way are harsh as well. Which I have no problem with. It's not a contest, but if it was, the opponents won. Congratulations and thanks for pushing your point of view.
However, one challenge remains and that is budget for development. I don't know how we can solve that, but it is a problem.
Thanks for everyone who contributed to the discussion in any way. All input has been useful to me. The discussion was fierce and unfiltered, especially on my part. That's who I am and I can't pretend otherwise, also because I see others as equal and experience it that way, since the responses my way are harsh as well. Which I have no problem with. It's not a contest, but if it was, the opponents won. Congratulations and thanks for pushing your point of view.
Where is the funding for the florin pump going to come from ? Look at the price of Florin!
He gets it.
I am a little disappointed that raising the funds for the xt.com listing is taking a long time for Florin, if I owned 15000 Florin I would of paid for the listing myself. Where are the rich investors?
The new Gulden premine will be the rich investor.
Don't go buy a lot of Gulden or Florin if you not a influener yourself or it will end badly for you.
This must be the dumbest thing i read on here fore a while, and that is an achievement because there is a lot of dumb sh*t being said on here in the past :-)
Before claiming it's the dumbest thing you've read, think about it.
Rijk has admitted it's up to the community or whoever invests to make the coin successful outside of development, if I buy 20% of the florin supply and I know I can't put any effort into it's success how much motivation is there with the other 80% who own coins?
What if a few own 50% and they investors like me, who is going to go to conferences, do promoting etc to make my investment successful.
With coins like HEX as another poster mentioned, you have Richard Heart doing all that promotional work and a development team which = less risk for investors as you have a team driving it's complete success.
Florin and Gulden have a dev team but no one is driving it's success, it's up to us and I can't so I would rather invest in other coins that have a complete plan.
Rijk looks to be settled on a Anarchy style for Gulden and in real life this does not work because someone will rise up to be a leader. I notice Rijk is pressing for a solution he likes on starting a new coin for Gulden because without him involved in the conversation I don't see any changes made without a leader.
Rijk doesn't give a shit, he only wants a new premine to support Florin and he will have to rush a decision soon because it will take time for the developers to get the new premine scheme moving. He can't let Gulden go because he needs it to support his turbo dumpwhale status in florin.
Rijk also spend time on charactor assassination in slack and not reading what is said and trying to bait people into getting lawyer letters. Albert did a good job in getting transparency from Rijk on the bitvavo funding, keep up the good work Albert!
I got a few messages on slack to say that Rijk only care about florin , you can see he is all double standards. When florin want XT exchange listing he like all happy but when Gulden ask he comes with a threat and adding another exchange will take the price down. He is a real shitbag with no soul.
I got a few messages on slack to say that Rijk only care about florin , you can see he is all double standards. When florin want XT exchange listing he like all happy but when Gulden ask he comes with a threat and adding another exchange will take the price down. He is a real shitbag with no soul.
Yes Albert, be the hero for the people here.
Here. can the community and you start over Rijk. positive vibes and make Gulden work? this must come from a place of angry and you taking this out on the community that have stood with you long time.
Rijk 7:55 PM
Gulden op XT, zeker een goed idee, de prijs zal stijgen van 0,005 naar 0,0049.
Rijk 7:56 PM
Oh en je bent het enige vangnet wat we nog hebben kwijt… die resterende BTC.
Predictable response from a person looking for a new premine. Richpissman and others have warned enough people and anyone that wants to get taken on a ride for another 8 years you don't have any sympathy from me, I have sympathy for the dutch citizen who don't know what they getting into with Rijk. He will use the same decentralization mantra to take your money and make you feel guilty about it when it fails. You can give this guy 10 premines and he will say it's your fault in the name of decentralization, It's how these types work.
He complains about turbo whales but these whales if it's not him and his old premine are making decentralized choices on how they want to trade.
You are not answering why as a Gulden whale you care about the XFL premine
This will be the third time Rijk is creating a premine which should come as no surprise because when Rijk does something he repeats the living shit out of it. It's important because he is going to dangle the investor carrot to get buyin from the community.
So your claim is there are no investors?
Who did Rijk sell the premine too? I want to determine the level of investor Rijk is dealing with before he creates another 170 million premine.
or
Did Rijk sell part of the premine to Rico and Michael?
Your imagination:
It was sold to Heineken and they sold to Rico and Michael.
Rijk does not need a Gulden premine.
Florin investors don't need to pay for exchange listings.
The reality:
Rijk gave coins to Rico and Michael for free publicity.
Rijk needs a Gulden premine.
Florin investors need to pay for exchange listings.
A little concerned the small guys have to fit the bill for a Florin exchange listing when I was expecting the "rich florin premine investors" to pay for all this? Arent they the ones holding most of the coins, something is not adding up here. A guy with 50 coins is supposed to donate for an exchange that will benefit investors with over 20 000 coins.
A community member contacted XT and got a listing proposal. Same community member started a crowdfunding for it. So now the big investors should automatically pay for any community plan? Some people here have no rational thinking capacity. Stunning.
I would contribute but mining is increasingly difficult with the higher price and I will rather save my coins. My vakantiegeld ran dry last month or I could pay another way
The community member can ask Rijk to contribute. He will benefit the most, why must we average investors fit the bill for him to get super rich?
Changed it for you.
Rijks plan to change to a new coin is falling flat as more people calling him out. It sounds to me Rijk did not get any money for the Florin premine and is desperate for funding.A member called Nuno came with a good idea to add a dev reward to Florin to make it fair . To share the burden of development between both projects.
I will vote for a Florin Dev reward, that is your answer for funding Rijk.
Or if it's not about the money create a new gulden without a premine ?
I will vote for a Florin Dev reward, that is your answer for funding Rijk.
Or if it's not about the money create a new gulden without a premine ?
A scammer will never go for that plan, it will hurt his personal investment. He will get his new coin, the only reason he is debating is because he needs the same people in the Gulden community to become long term bagholders of his new premine. What did he achieve with 8 years of a Gulden premine and funding besides taking a big slice out for himself. You trust this same guy to scam you again for another 8 years?
One of the tells of a con artist is they get angry when confronted. They will get angry as a way to force their agenda and to shut down a debate.
everyone was warned about Rijk, his only goal is to extract money from you for the least effort possible and use the decentralization excuse when the obvious failures are under the scope. He is blaming you bagholders and will still sell his new premine to the same bagholders and blame you again. Wake up mensen!!
But you make a weird thinking error by keep dragging in the current price of 1 Florin. Before they bought it the price was dead in then water, months of 3 dollar range. You keep mentioning “premine worth of 2.5 million and now 3.6 million even” That was not the value at the time of the sale.
No investor pays 2 million for a 1 million marketprice ferrari just to gamble that the ferrari might be worth 3 million in the future. If the Ferrari is 1 million you pay 1 million.
Their is no premine sale my friends.
It's all an illusion that anonymous angel investors picked up 45000 Florin.
Of course it won't be possible to sell that 45000 florin on the markets because all eyes will be on those premine addresses, the only option left is to take the 45000 florin and put them in those hodling accounts. The fanbase goes wild because the premine can't be sold, the founder has complete control of the hodling supply and can sell those earnings on the market as the market can absorb those sales. The hodling accounts don't get the airdrop and next they won't be getting any rewards.
You know I am right, right?
Control
Traders are waiting for some positive news for Gulden before the market will turn.
I personally don't invest in Gulden anymore, whales have killed the Gulden market on bittrex. With Florin its impossible for whales to do the same because of the scarce supply.
I was a whale with a low supply coin. It's all relative, in the end I held a lot of the supply but no buyers when I wanted to sell. I also thought scarce supply and price can only go up, if you are the one of a few buying you make the price go higher for everyone else but try selling the coins is a different story. Low supply coins also have dead communities, no one gives a fuck because only a few people own enough to care.
The florin I sold above 200000, I purched at 140000 range. Rijk said rich investors have purchased the premine, I am thinking binance listing soon and price will 10X.
In 2018 I helped list a coin on binance, it was quite cheap back then. It should be no problem if these rich investors exist.
but is it taking care of Florin development? You can Fork Gulden yourself also. It's open source. Next to that, Florin had an own premine for development and in the statement Rijk put on slack it says that even though the premine is sold, budget for development is guaranteerd. So what you say makes no sense. Florin can pull its own weight simply.
What about development time, same developers working on two projects. The Gulden dev reward does not stop paying out while work is done on Florin? Florin can stand on its own but uses the same developers and community?
Pretend the premine was sold to Rijk by Rijk for $0 and you will find the answers to your questions.
The definition of a long con.
an elaborate confidence game that develops in several stages over an extended period of time wherein the con man or swindler gains the victim’s trust, often bypassing small profits with the goal of reaping a much larger payout in the final maneuver:
The key to pulling off a long con is giving your marks the illusion of control while you and your team manipulate their choices.
EG. The florin holders have already been manipulated by accepting no airdrop because of an "anonymous angel investment group" that has purchased the premine.
Was it not possible to create Florin on the Gulden blockchain? It looks like a really low IQ decision if it was possible. Both coins would benefit from each other, the way things are setup at the moment does not add any value.
A lot of the florin holders were also promised a airdrop with the premine but this incentive is gone as the premine was sold.
People never learn.
Ask Rijk who the new Florin Angel investors are and all you will get is evasive answers. The only investor is the Gulden development reward and you suckers keep buying it to pay for Florin development and price hikes.
today Rijk also announced that the premine of Florin.org , which was planned for Airdrop on holders and marketing/development was sold to a third party. (maybe not really for Gulden thread but since both projects are linked)
The third party is Rijk. Did you really think he was going to give the premine away in a airdrop? It's the same script with Gulden, airdrop at the start and then taken for himself.
You don't know this as fact. The people who have funds stuck in witness will also think it's good, the price can be much higher when the coins are available in the future. In the short term the fact that all these people can't sell the coins because its stuck in witness makes it easier for new investors to pump the price without worrying about dumping. Florin going more centralized with few investors holding most of the coins is good because they won't sell at lower prices. Gulden is too decentralized, when investors try to increase the price many users dump.
The pump is over, no one is taking the bait.
today Rijk also announced that the premine of Florin.org , which was planned for Airdrop on holders and marketing/development was sold to a third party. (maybe not really for Gulden thread but since both projects are linked)
The third party is Rijk. Did you really think he was going to give the premine away in a airdrop? It's the same script with Gulden, airdrop at the start and then taken for himself.
Any reason the Gulden youtube channel has been dead for 6 months?
The English and German youtube channels are run by community members, not part of the Gulden team, so when they have free time they will do content.
When they realized they putting in more effort then the founder they stopped the videos.
Volunteers
Sources tell me only Rijk gets the moolah, the rest work for decentralisation.
Which of these decentralisation workers will be approaching Bitvavo?
I think if Rijk pays people to promote Florin it can be done. Gulden is different as the community does It for free.
Can only be one community that is nice as the Gulden community, for the rest of the coins people do get paid for effort.