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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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Risiandsen
on 22/09/2018, 11:04:56 UTC
Talking about Worldcore in general - we all know that no scams can last longer than a year or a year and a half and personally I can't remeber any scam project being busy with various functionality updates, serious fintech events and industry associations membership. Could you name me please just a single proven scam which doing something in a way Worldcore does?   

Very laconic and very well said for all the forum newcomers - just a summary of what Worldcore actually is at the moment.  And it has nver been a scam.
Switch on your own brains, read the thread, search upon Google and analyze the information given by the both sides of the conflict. This works and this helps a lot!  Wink
Ask yourself why a couple of account have been posting a lot of negative information regarding Worldcore longer than for a year now. Do you have any explanation? Personally I have it and it's quite obvious - it's been nothng but a black PR-attack.
 
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 22/09/2018, 10:57:50 UTC
It's well know that scam never last longer than a year or a year and a half and I don't recall any scam being busy with various features updates, serious public events activities and industry cooperation membership. Point me just a single proven scam which acts or used to act like Worldcore?   

@ValarCrais

Laconic but well said!
And I would drop my five pence coin in - VISA would have never agreed to issue debet cards branded with a scam logo! But the agreement with Worldcore has just been signed and long check ups and negotiations and do you really think VISA doesn't treasure it's reputation to approve their cards branded with a scam? No way.   
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 21/09/2018, 16:49:38 UTC
@researcher194

A note regarding the reports.
It's know that the moment the Worldcore team is busy with preparing the detailed report for the token holders demonstating the vector of movement and development progress. There will be included everything what has been done since January 2018 (technical integrations, legal actions, new functionality and more). The report is expected to arrive for download globally within a couple of weeks. Funnily, by the last court session against Rusbase date and I believe it shall give a boost to the token.
Does it sound much like all the scams do? Nope.   
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 20/09/2018, 20:22:07 UTC
Are there any news on the yesterday's court session in Moscow based on the the Worldcore's lawsuit? Has been the verdict published already and what is the made decision?

The court between RUSBASE and Worldcore was postponed until October 2, 2018:
https://kad.arbitr.ru/Card/f8e9cf3e-bfca-4392-ab44-8a3ff74435ea


Sean Patterson is not fulltime Worldcore employee and so what? "Actors" never have MBA and acting in movies instead of creating marketing strategies.



are there proofs confirms that Sean is currently working in Worldcore?  
or is it your imagination?

Are there proofs that Shaun really graduated from MBA? Nasonov also allegedly graduated from something.

Yes, Sean Patterson has been working as a Worldcore marketing partner still.
He's a public and a reknown person with no reasons to lie: he keep on mentioning working for Worldcore on each and every of his social nets pages:
Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Sean-Patterson-2
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanpatterson/
And Facebook too... I see not a single reason not to belive Mr.Patterson himself and you naming him as a "cheap actor" is nothing but a lie on purpose.


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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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Risiandsen
on 19/09/2018, 20:44:39 UTC
Are there any news on the yesterday's court session in Moscow based on the the Worldcore's lawsuit? Has been the verdict published already and what is the made decision?
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 19/09/2018, 19:42:16 UTC



This is the same kind of "proof" as naming Sean Patterson "a cheap actors" based on his cooking photo (he mentioned cooking as a one of his hobbies on a social net and uploaded a photo)

Really?  Grin


Really.

Sean Patterson is not fulltime Worldcore employee and so what? We live in the digital age and you don't have to work 8/5 for a single company.
And we all know that Sean is also an evangelist and co-founder in few projects. "Actors" never have MBA and acting in movies instead of creating marketing strategies.




Marina simply doesn't know what "a partner" or "associated partner" is. For example in my company our HR-director also is "an associated partner" which means she has her own recruiting company while performing some tasks for our company.  As I see the Sean Patterson's position he's an associated marketing director for Worldcore - nothing bad at all and it doesn't worth building any conspiracy theories.   
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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Risiandsen
on 18/09/2018, 16:37:34 UTC
Hello, you former Worldcore defenders! Did you all have holidays and are active again unisono? No, you surely don´t be "paid shills" of Worldcore but I think you are multiple accounts of one team member. You obviously have insider knowledges. If you are not Bohdan Taranenko ask him for a translation of this Kiev Police Department document because he is Ukrainian. There still doesn´t exist a proof for scam but I believe there are evident suspicion aspects which will be investigated further more. Next step could be a court file.


An interesting quotation in the neigbouring thread from one of those who attacked Worldcore before saying "There still doesn't exist a proof for scam" - quite an important recognition and it means something!

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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 18/09/2018, 16:23:11 UTC
Hello, you former Worldcore defenders! Did you all have holidays and are active again unisono? No, you surely don´t be "paid shills" of Worldcore but I think you are multiple accounts of one team member. You obviously have insider knowledges. If you are not Bohdan Taranenko ask him for a translation of this Kiev Police Department document because he is Ukrainian. There still doesn´t exist a proof for scam but I believe there are evident suspicion aspects which will be investigated further more. Next step could be a court file.

Source: https://www.pravda.ru/news/economics/crypto/28-08-2018/1392145-Worldcore-0/


Of course, after the criminal case against Worldwide is investigated, a court session will be held. There will come a moment of truth.

"A crimal case" you say? Shouldn't there has been a police on this document first of all, if it's really official? Huh Roll Eyes
Otherwise it looks like a fake a bit - without a proper offical stamp anyone could make it's very own customized "a criminal case" proof againt Worldcore or against Marina Uni personally. Don't you think so?

This is the same kind of "proof" as naming Sean Patterson "a cheap actors" based on his cooking photo (he mentioned cooking as a one of his hobbies on a social net and uploaded a photo) and totally ignoring his MBA, Warwick University, being a co-founder and an evangelist at the certain project. A very typical for Marina Uni Worldcore related "reseach" approach. 
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Re: Блек пиар кампания против Worldсore, кто и зачем?
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Risiandsen
on 17/09/2018, 20:04:58 UTC
Я  сам не участвовал в их баунти, но постоянно видел заголовки что этот проект скам. Возможно конкуренты или каки е то обиженные на них люди пустили эти слухи?

Александр Прочухан и Чеслав Пестюк, жулики-основатели Questra, когда их прижали фин власти нескольких стран Евросоюза, начали пытаться запутать следствие и перевести стрелки на еще несколько проектов, одним из которых оказался и Wordlcore,  просто попытались в рамках одной черной пиар-кампании смешать все в одну кучу, настоящих собственников, других жуликов, нормальные проекты, скамы. А сами под шумок открыли еще несколько пирамид в разных странах. 
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 17/09/2018, 18:12:42 UTC
I wonder about the forthcoming VISA debet cards deal - this means Worldcore have finally managed to withdrew the funds from dubious  Rietumu banka and signed a partnership deal with another bank. I suspect this bank to be a Turkish one - Turkey suddenly spalshed a wave of interest in Worldcore. Does anybody has any proven news or insider's info about it? 

It's unlikey to be in connection the Turkish bank. Being registered in Prague and having it's activities regulated by the Czech republic financial authorities Worldcore is meant to be an EU company. The first of all, Turkey's experiencing not the best political relations with the EU. And it's out of the eurozone payments which also means there could be extra payment issues and outlays, it's the second. But let see, possibly they'll reveal their new bank very soon.   
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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Risiandsen
on 17/09/2018, 17:53:06 UTC
And in a small addition to my previous post - it looks like Worlcore is getting popularity in Turkey. Couldn't it be because their new bank is a Turkish one? Does anybody have any information rgarding this matter? 

Indeed. I've just asked the same question in the nearby thread. It looks like they have finally managed to withdrew the funds from the Latvian Rietume banka and announced there're going to issue the debet VISA cards which means I've got a partnership with a bank. I've also noticed a Worldcore popularity spalsh in Turkey which means they're supported by a Turkish bank though we haven't got any proven news yet.     

I very doubt it's about the Turkish bank. Worldcore is registered and it's activities are regulated by the Czech republic financial authorities which means the EU. Turkey suffers from not the best relations with the EU - first, second - it's out of the eurozone payments which also means there could be extra payment issues and outlays. But who know, they'll reveal their new bank very soon I suppose.   
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 16/09/2018, 09:40:35 UTC
@Veleor,

Are you serious when posting a single anonymous post from taken from a some obscure forum and trying to convince us "People talk that..."? Sorry, lad, your efforts are just laughable to say the least.

Going back to the Worldcore related news. Interestingly, recently the Ukranian police has raided Alex Prochukhan (Questra/ AGAM owner and a black PR-attack on Worldcore organizer) owned IT-company iPan Ltd. Meanwhile, Cheslas Pestyuk (another Questra/ AGAM owner and a black PR-attack on Worldcore organizer) suddenly has chnaged his surname to his wife's name - from Pestyuk to Konyukh. I wonder what it's all about?  Roll Eyes

Actually Marina's team have never bothered themselves with any solid fact checking ups - this is not a thing Alex Prochukhan pays them for. Lets take for example their laughable accustaions of Sean Patterson of being "a cheap actor" in spite of too many prove that Patterson has been a well paid and educated head of marketing, co-founder and evangelist as well for many projects including Worldcore. The quality of Marina's post rarely stands up against any criticism.     
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 14/09/2018, 18:21:25 UTC
The reality of Worldcore

As I already reported earlier the most remarkable events in WRC trade happened in January 2018 within a little more than two weeks. Concerning these ones I don´t see any relation to Questra/AGAM activities. Both occurrences had been created by Worldcore itself.

the reality of worldcore is that you are showing us january charts when all the market was growing rapidly about a week following the bear trend of bitcoin, the next week the market was going down, everybody remembers this. but you are trying to make a strong piece of evidence of it. wrc is part of the market as well. wrc was just following the common trend. so you didn't shock anybody ))keep calm

And I would add that judging a whole process by a single event is says a lot about a resercher's qualification in general. Or can admit that someone highlights just certain events on purpose - when it serves his needs  Huh 
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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Risiandsen
on 14/09/2018, 18:18:05 UTC
Hey-ho men!

As the thread is named "Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?" I would point that in a couple of weeks we'll bee celebrating a 1-year anniversary of the black PR-attack started on this forum by Marina Uni  Cheesy But lucikly it looks like the people have lost any interest to such sort of an absurd "investigation" long time ago - just look how the amount of the posts have been decreasing and no newly found "victims" of Worldcore arrive.     

There's also a Russian speaking thread which has already marked they 1-year anniversary  Grin Grin Grin 178 pages of utter madness started by Marina.
Btw, a funny new - one of the attack on Worldcore organizers, Cheslav Pestyuk, has changed his family name by having taken his wife surname - Konyukh. I wonder what it's all about? Looks like someone's trying to hide his bad deals  Roll Eyes     
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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Risiandsen
on 14/09/2018, 17:37:49 UTC
Some time ago moment EUPSProvider S.r.o (the Worldcore team) has filed a lawsuit against one of the Russian medias stating Worldcore is a scam in their article.
This is a very important precedent because it means Worldcore has finally decided to defend officially their good name not in the Internet, but using the instruments of legal punishmnet. The final session set to the 18th of September

http://kad.arbitr.ru/Card/f8e9cf3e-bfca-4392-ab44-8a3ff74435ea

We'll get an official and undoubted proof of the black PR-attack on Worldcore in less than in a week!  

Moreover, there's another court session on the way - the 23rd of October  Wink
http://kad.arbitr.ru/Card/0867437f-2160-444c-9db8-a0085b5c7aee

And if Worldcore were a scam, would they have decided take it to the court? Obviously, not.



Absolutely true.
People abusing Worldcore of being a scam should simply switch on their brains.
And, btw, it looks like the lowest point WRC has been passed a month ago - the situation is repairing slowly, hope there'll be a great boost after signing a debet card agreement with VISA. 
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 14/09/2018, 16:58:56 UTC
Some time ago moment EUPSProvider S.r.o (the Worldcore team) has filed a lawsuit against one of the Russian medias stating Worldcore is a scam in their article.
This is a very important precedent because it means Worldcore has finally decided to defend officially their good name not in the Internet, but using the instruments of legal punishmnet. The final session set to the 18th of September

http://kad.arbitr.ru/Card/f8e9cf3e-bfca-4392-ab44-8a3ff74435ea

We'll get an official and undoubted proof of the black PR-attack on Worldcore in less than in a week!  

Moreover, there's another court session on the way - the 23rd of October  Wink
http://kad.arbitr.ru/Card/0867437f-2160-444c-9db8-a0085b5c7aee

And if Worldcore were a scam, would they have decided take it to the court? Obviously, not.



Personally I can't say any better. Scammers would never dare to fight for their business reputation in the court. And it would be a bright idea of posting the court desicions here on the forum - people have the right to know the truth and the real situation about Worldcore. And as long as I know, Rusbase had removed the doubtful article mentiong Worldcore as a "scam" from their site even before the court sessions started - a self-speaking evidence of being a paid poster.
 
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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Risiandsen
on 13/09/2018, 16:42:15 UTC
Meanwhile another lovely in-depth investigation about Alex Prochukhan's activities giving a lot of answers to your questions regarding the attack on Worldcore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=408&v=L_6MDo8pKKw

https://s25.postimg.cc/ni7qfa5n3/video.jpg
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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Risiandsen
on 13/09/2018, 16:38:35 UTC
/re searcher it is impolite not 2 thank people when they send u a fine song trying 2 make from u a better researcher than u r now !!))pleasee dont repeat ur mistakes and dont beso rude when I send u a video investigation about ur employers pestyuk and prochukan once again ..as u dont want 2 comment it ,,I dont know even y  Undecided
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_6MDo8pKKw



A nice link above, quite interestng and in-depth investigation about those who stand behind the black PR-attack - Mr. Prochukhan and Mr.Petyuk. Absolutely worth watching especially for all the newcomers here to sort the things out a bit. I don't understand why so-called "reserachers", I mean Marina Uni, Veleor and resercher194 from the "Worldcore is a scam" thread pretending to be a real independent cryptomarket investigators spend so much of their on accusing Worldcore whilst there' many more 101% scams around.  
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 13/09/2018, 16:34:36 UTC
/re searcher it is impolite not 2 thank people when they send u a fine song trying 2 make from u a better researcher than u r now !!))pleasee dont repeat ur mistakes and dont beso rude when I send u a video investigation about ur employers pestyuk and prochukan once again ..as u dont want 2 comment it ,,I dont know even y  Undecided
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_6MDo8pKKw


@compelito

Thanks a lot for the link, quite interestng and in-depth investigation about those who stand behind the black PR-attack - Mr. Prochukhan and Mr.Petyuk. Absolutely worth watching especially for all the newcomers here to sort the things out a bit. I don't understand researcher194 pretending to be a real independent cryptomarket researcher spends so much of his on accusing Worldcore whilst there' many more 101% scams around. 
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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Risiandsen
on 12/09/2018, 19:58:47 UTC
As previously revealed, Worldcore is project of Ukrainian swindler Pavel Krymov with actors instead of employees. The firm has no product, no prospects. The role of the talking head in it is played by Alexey Nasonov but he is absolutely a fake character. In addition, he has a fake diploma.

marina has mixed everything: worldcore, pavel krymov, allegedly "fake diploma" and even alexey nasonov. you are misleading other people on purpose trying to make obstacles for their understanding what's going in fact: just an unprecedented black-pr campaing against the wrc token. that's how it is.

Absolutely... But that's her tactics.   
And at the same time she has never answered a question: where are the rest of "the fooled investors" and why does she "fight the evil Worldcore" almost alone?
Also, why not to apply with the claim to the Czech Central bank instead of sprending her days days and nights whilts writing and writing on this forum (we'll be celebrating a 1 year anniversary to this thread soon).  Grin