Its not my fault if investors win or lose -  I never used Refs-Links to ponzies - so what shall I do but talk about riscs and tricks?
Money only comes to money, and if you lose so far, then try daytrading with no-scamming-trading-sides and your faucetbox-"incomes" to become rich in xxxx years.

Perhaps it would be better to find a headhunter on Darknet *joking*

Well, sorry for your bad experience. Its not my fault. You have lost - Im ri(t)ch. So whats your advice to ME?
Ofcourse I ask no one to invest in ponzies, but I invest and thats ok for me.

best regards

Dear Bhantom

I invest everywhere and I mostly win everywhere. I send no ref-links to ponzies but allways have a look to fresh ones. (Information is money.) The class of risc depends of some factors: Time, %, minimum investment, trustable feedbacks, a.s.o. ...
I know some people who earn big money with refferals only - ok, but I dont do that, because I would never do advertising for ponzies (without to tell about the very high risc to invest there). Social Rule No.1!

Byside (50%) I trade cryptos on stockmarkets like BTC-e or Bitstamp in realtime. In the last 2 month I made i.e.  more income there than with ponzi-investments. All in all its fine, so I stopped working at the end of 2013, because I mined BTC befor since 2009.

best regards

(sorry my bad english - I am not a native speaker)

Yeah, right! Ive investet there a lot 8 month ago and allready got an over-all withdrawl of 159% on my wallet PLUS reinvestments for this and other "Ponzies". So whats the Problem?
First-in/first-out so you will (mostly) always win with dayly withdraw. I played that game over years now and its so easy to earn money with "Ponzies" as long you are not greedy.

best regards

Ok, call it Ponzi, HYIP or whatever ... I got my ROI   YOU could get your ROI too, if you see and understand my former rules and dont be greedy.

I promise by god, allah or krishna: I have never worked for HYIPs, Ponzies or Scammers! I only have used them as "User" to pimp my crypto-wallets.

You are right, Soya! As long HO will be feeded by fresh investors, as long we will earn a lot of BTC.

Dear Keyscore44

I never (but have) invest(ed) in high-promise-%-shemes because mostly all of them were and are scammers with no winning for the investors! Well, learning by doing till you have the "feeling" for different investment-shemes. All about 1% per day is HYIP and all over 2% is (mostly) scam in my experience. Sure HO is a HYIP but no Scam as long I´ve invested there, because I got allready a very high ROR.
(My real Rate Of Return you can see, if you have a look to the price of BTC over the last 8 month. Then add my bonus-KHS from refferalls in the HO-Top100. More than 1% from Refs ... plus 23 Cent/KHS price in own investment, you know? )

Investments in that class need a lot of money able to renounce in worst case. But the principle is allmost the same if you invest 6.20$ or some $k.

PS: I have a lot of BTC-adresses - cold and warm - and I would be an idiot to post them in public. All my public links lead to free fauchets or REAL exchanger, so nobody will loose a fuck*** cent, because i love that curencies and dont want anyone to loose "real" money [FIATs] .

best regards

Who? Me. Over years with several sites. Sometimes I lost some bugs but overall I got a very good income with "scamming" real scammers. Have a look to my simple rules. High risk = low investment / low risk = high investment. Spreading is important and NEVER BE GREEDY.  
It´s mostly not important how much you invest - important is the time - quick-in/quick-out. (BTW: Sunpower18 is only an example of my investments - I´m richer than him )

All other income I made via BTC-e&Co. ATM with chinese trading-sites without any scammers - so I have to be a night-worker. I know the potential of BTC since 2009 and it was and is much better than all other curencies (but ETH).
Three screens, one is: http://bitcointicker.co/

best regards

Well, believe it or not. On CLDMine was an "insurance"-knob for investors over 1000$. I guess, all that paybacks were payed by low-investors, because CLD would have big problems, if they scam the big ones. How much BTCs are needed to find a scammer i.e. via darknet faster than the police?

(sorry my bad english -  I´m not a native speaker)

best regards

Not Sunpower, but Sunpower18... In my BTC-lifetime since 2009? Well, since the end of 2013 I didnt "work" anymore as someones slave. With the next halving my wallet will made 20+% this year and at the end ... who knows. Ri(t)ch is if you dont need much money to live, but enough money to live without any future-problems.

BTW: You should know it -> BTC and ETH is the future of money --- and XAPO is the exchanger .

yep, sunpower18 has earned 350 BTC so far and tomorrow more Sure, the investment was high but with some good refferalls it´s ok. (Good Refferalls = Investors in the Top100)

Let`s have a look for example  to Hashocean`s userlist: sunpower18*** (11/14/2015)   312 415 KH/s   —   350.27035572 BTC

Any questions? Do the math
As I wrote and write every year there are some very simple rules to become ri(t)ch with all kinds of BTC-investment [Ponzi-shemes]:
1. Quick-in -> quick-out
2. Spread as much you can (downgraded in classes of risks)
3. You have to be ri(t)ch at the beginning, because money only comes to money (btw: actual CLDMine is down/death, but I got all my investment back as shown on their goodbye-page and in my wallet )

There are allways two kinds of loosers:
1. Guys who ignore the simple rules
2. Guys who never invested

So my tipp fpr noobs are:
1. Withdraw as long you have not your investment back on your wallet
2. After full ROI reinvest max 50% of your dayly income

best regards,
ritch

I've already made my ROI there (first-in->first-out), but for new investors it's too late and risky now. It's the same sheme like AprilCoin, so you should know how long they will pay from now.
(If you understand my ebook "How to scam a scammer", you will allways be a winner. )

1. invest as less as possible with your first account and be one of the first investors
2. reffer yourself with a 2nd fake account (and much higher investment)
3. get your ref-bonus
4. release and withdraw ALL
5. reinvest your bonus in 2nd account for more ref-bonus to the first
6. from now on don't forget to withdraw every day ... and so on ...

You can play this game with several HYIPs and much more fake-accounts to reach a very good ROI before the Ponzies close.
@Dear Noobs: It's so easy to reach the ROI very fast. (Normaly at least after 7 days, if the HYIP wants release-fees.) But attention:
1. Dont' use cookies or same IP's. (Use TOR for example) Don't use the same btc-account.
2. Don't be greedy! NEVER invest more than 0.99 BTC.
3. Think about it: There is allways a risk, because some HYIPs will never pay from the beginning. So have a look at HYIP-Monitors before investing and allways use fresh ones to test them with lowest investments.

This game is no question of morality, because YOU don't scam other investors but the HYIPs do ... and everyone should know that.
Why I release my anti-scam-sheme? Well ... if all investors would use this sheme, there would be no Scammers with BIG income anymore ... and no big income leads to: No motivation to scam (noob-)investors with simple Ponzies. *dream-on*

Hashflare? How can you trust a "company" which does not believe in Coins because they want fiats for GHS?

The point is: How you don't lose anything in future.

At the end of the game they have to exchange into fiats. With a very deep research in blockchain that could be a trap for them, because it's allmost impossible to fake a real bank account. So how they will get their money? I guess, they buy expensive items in a store for coins anonymous (disposable cell phone) and sell them later. That's the only way, I can imagine.
But another question is: How to get the webspace, if you have to pay for it with your bank account? So why you don't ask the provider of the webspace to get their real identity? Well, the real identity belongs to an 90-years old blind woman in the slums of India, who knows nothing about Internet nor Bitcoins, nor that she ever owns a bank account. *lol* But wait ... I've made a thoughts error, because with that account the scammers don't need to buy and sell items for coins and fiats!
So say goodbye to your investments, if you don't want an old innocent woman to be arrested.

Sure most investors did'nt unterstand how Ponzis and Scammers work. So what I should tell these loosers, I've never already told before? I don't know. Perhaps my English is too bad to understand my rules? Perhaps, so sorry. All I have to know: I've never posted ref-links leading to scammers, so I have no problem in personal morality. But other people still post ref-links even to death-scams in this forum.
On the other side of the moon there are criminal acts with bitcoins - things you'd rather not see. Unlike the small fraudsters that we know, such people are really dangerous and also know no scruples. It's not the little deceiver that bring the Bitcoin discredited - it's the felon in the Darknet.
Well, I have no problem with our harmless little scammers (HYIPs) in "clearnet", because I'm not a criminal, have no bank-account outside germany and I pay my taxes ... and heh! I got my ROI.

But most important: I'm allways smart enough to get out before it collapses. All of you should be smart enough too ... no later than learning by doing ... or read my rules of splitting investments and how to scam a scammer, so you have a good chance of not to lose anything under the line of Excel.
It's realy easy and no kind of luck.

Agree. A promoter of a manifest fraud becomes the agent of fraud, but there is no legal basis to punish him for that as long as you can not prove anything.
Everyone (adult) should know the risk of HYIPs. Everyone has the possibility to inform himself before investing and HOW to invest, to reach a ROI. Everyone should read my e-book "How to scam a scammer" in german "Der ethisch-technische Kunstgriff des kategorischen Imperativs: Wie man Betrüger betrügt" *joking*. (No, I don't sell this book, because to much winners would kill my bussiness  )
Seriously: I can not imagine how to lose money with HYIPs, because all you need to know are some simple splitting-rules of investment. You could explain this rules to a child and I bet that child will double it's pocket money ... to consume more ice and toys in some weeks or months, as long kids can wait as long.
But I can understand the problem: Someone (or everyone?) dream of the big, quick and easy money. Of course HYIPs offer a much better chance than lottery but it's nomen est omen High Yield with high risks.
As long you don't invest more than you can afford, it's an exciting game only. As long you get a good ROI overall, it's a funny game. As long you don't cry about some lost bugs, it's a nice pastime.
All in all I can promise you: HYIPs are better than bank interests. I got as much interests in the last 365 days as my bank-account would offer me for the next 50 years. So what's the problem with so called scams, shemes and ponzis? IMHO it's the greed of investors who did not unterstand the rules of HOW and WHEN to invest. I.e. what is a "fresh" HYIP? One week or two weeks old? No, that's already "old", because of first-in->first-out. Two or three days after start is even fresh enough to have a chance of a good ROI, because later investors pay your winnings. What's not to understand? I don't know ...

(Please excuse my bad english - I'm not a native speaker.)