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XMR Monero - Ninja/Instamine for the BTC whales and bot farmers. Then a succession of pump dumps orchestrated with a web of self-moderated sock puppet forums. It never fails it never fails,,,,,,,,,!
XMR Monero - Ninja/Instamine for the BTC whales and bot farmers. Then a succession of pump dumps orchestrated with a web of self-moderated sock puppet forums. It never fails it never fails,,,,,,,,,!
Yes we report fraud when and where we see it. If more people did the same the world (and certainly the cryptocurrency community) would be a better place.
Wow! We have a Messiah Complex here.
All I see is a complete tool. Accusing people of lying and declining to offer any evidence, circumstantial or otherwise.
Embarrassing!
Re: BCN Bytecoin - The One, true Cryptonote challenger in the Anonymous Crypto World
Sorry, but due to past behaviour - rpietila or Monero devs are not permitted to post on this thread
Lol why? Monero devs are all so nice about all altcoins.
Monero 
You see, bitcointalk forum community is pain in the ass.
They got really upset having to taste their own medicine!
To be honest, I was interested in Bytecoin, but there was so much hate and FUD from the Bytecoin community toward Monero. It turned me off to BCN entirely.
Interesting. My experience on BCT was the exact opposite to yours.
Re: BCN Bytecoin - The One, true Cryptonote challenger in the Anonymous Crypto World
ROFL - I'm no expert at Crypto Currency trading but it looks to me like someone or a very small group just blew 100 BTC to get Monero to jump just one place over Bytecoin in the Cap rankings.
And if you check the recent volume they are blowing dozens to keep it there.
That's an awful lot of dosh. I think it is bordering on insanity!
No question at all that the Monero market is completely manipulated by a very small group od people, if not, just one individual.
And if you check the recent volume they are blowing dozens to keep it there.
That's an awful lot of dosh. I think it is bordering on insanity!
No question at all that the Monero market is completely manipulated by a very small group od people, if not, just one individual.
Re: BCN Bytecoin - The One, true Cryptonote challenger in the Anonymous Crypto World
You can tell how desperate these people are when they spend the last 24 posts in their self moderated Monero speculation on totally off-topic spamming against Bytecoin!
This thread documents how the Monero pumpers operated;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=755840.0
This thread documents how the Monero pumpers operated;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=755840.0
I noticed that, since this thread started several of the self-moderated Monero threads have been appearing on the front page. Most appear to be bumped by fatuous or inane one liners. I think that thread you quoted got it spot on.
Who are these Monero volume pumpers? Volume quadrupled since Bytecoin went above Monero. I can imagine that rpietila is crazy enough to throw 75BTC in a fit of rage because Bytecoin surpassed Monero's capitalisation - but surely (apart from the .1BTC tiddlers who are swept up in this 'Cult of Monero') there cannot be many more crazy whales?
Re: BCN Bytecoin - The One, true Cryptonote challenger in the Anonymous Crypto World
There should have been a thread like this for a long while.
Btw - what is happening with Darkcoin - I just changed one of my pots to DRK. I guess this thread is for me because I only own BCN and DRK. The website says it forked from BTC 0.9.3 but what further developments are planned?
Btw - what is happening with Darkcoin - I just changed one of my pots to DRK. I guess this thread is for me because I only own BCN and DRK. The website says it forked from BTC 0.9.3 but what further developments are planned?
So bottom line is the entire blockchain could easily have been faked in a 3 month period at a total cost of $9 720.
But from my experience it wasn't. My coins were (eventually) validated on all the subsequent daemons and wallets.
I hope you'll forgive my candour, but you are lying to us.
Your account was only registered on September 11, 2014, and we have no evidence that it wasn't sold in the meantime.
You are a completely unknown person in cryptocurrency and cryptography circles.
You have no foothold in the Bitcoin-OTC Web of Trust, nor do I suspect you are in the GPG Web of Trust.
You have done nothing noteworthy or notable that anyone can say "oh yes, rough, he's the guy that created Facebucks, I trust him".
You are a pointless illusion trying to convince us that a completely fictitious story is true, but for what? So that a handful of morons too stupid to see through your ruse go and spend the 3 bitcents they haven't lost on some harebrained get-rich-quick scheme buying an ill-named cryptocurrency? You're no better than a Nigerian 419 scammer, hoping that someone will be dumb enough to believe you.
Stop with the lies.
I am not a liar and your weasel words do not make me so.
I am not, nor ever was, into Bitcoin.
I have forgotten about 'more notworthy' things that I have done than you have done in a lifetime.
Once again, Monero devs jump on a non-Monero thread and attempt to pervert a perfectly reasonable discussion.
Btw - selling my Monero pot - I wouldn't want to have any association with your type whatsoever. You are a real piece of work.
So bottom line is the entire blockchain could easily have been faked in a 3 month period at a total cost of $9 720.
But from my experience it wasn't. My coins were (eventually) validated on all the subsequent daemons and wallets.
Bytecoin has long been forgotten as a contender in the anonymity market. Just Darkcoin and Monero are the ones left standing now.
The market has decided otherwise. Nothing you can say in your self-moderated threads will change that.
Maybe they should fork it into a ponycoin. I feel sorry for the people who listened to Rptelia.
Well, the problem was there was the slew of moderated threads which possibly gave uninitiated people a false sense of the situation.
However, in the grand scheme of things, while the Rptelia followers may have lost a lot of dosh speculating on Monero short term in the longer term I agree with Fluffy that things like the dev team, infrastructure and community make a big difference. Merchants and buyers would prefer security and stability over 'day trading'. What Monero needs above and beyond a high price is what all the Alts need with the exception of BTC and Ripple - that is, easy to use fiat exchanges and easy to use open source shopping cart payment modules. When this happens I can see a big uptake in Monero, Bytecoin and a few other alts.
Don't forget the two Cryptonote coins, both with market caps over 1M$
Bytecoin http://bytecoin.org/
Monero http://www.monero.cc/
Monero has an especially high hash rate. Both are ideally suited to CPU mining although GPU is possible on Radeon and Nvidia. Neither seem to be dominated by bot-farmers. I mainly see AWS jumping in and out - fair enough in my view.
Bytecoin http://bytecoin.org/
Monero http://www.monero.cc/
Monero has an especially high hash rate. Both are ideally suited to CPU mining although GPU is possible on Radeon and Nvidia. Neither seem to be dominated by bot-farmers. I mainly see AWS jumping in and out - fair enough in my view.
You're approaching this from the assumption that the story of their release date is true. Let us take a look at why we should not approach it from that perspective:
3. In deference to the previous poster's claim, a search of 4chandata.org, 4chanarchive.net, or any other 4chan archive site unsurprisingly reveals no mention of Bytecoin.
3. In deference to the previous poster's claim, a search of 4chandata.org, 4chanarchive.net, or any other 4chan archive site unsurprisingly reveals no mention of Bytecoin.
It was definitely an onion site. I was a network engineer at the time. Just playing around with Tor. I had heard of Bitcoin but was not particularly into crypto at all. The guy I met at the expo was also interested in Tor and during our session he gave me the onion link to the forum thread as an aside, really. At the time Bitcoin was over 10$ and so I thought 'What the hell!' and gave the coin a good run - mining it on my laptop up to around December 2012. Around that time I got a new contract and completely forgot about cryptocurrencies and Bytecoin for a long time after until I hit on Bitcointalk.
Btw - from my time on BCT and ALT - I can see why people get upset easily! Since I started exploring Alts more closely it is easy to see how the conspiracy theorists get a hold. Mainly because if it looks suspicious it usually is!
Instead, it's a ninjamine because very few people knew about it during its initial mining phase when most of the coins were created in 2012 and 2013.
That may be true. It certainly seems that no one on BCT forums knew about Bytecoin. It may have been a few people but if many of them were like me, they didn't know the Bytecoin devs and didn't have an account with BCT. I only knew of two others on the 4chan thread where I got my binaries and they were both English and also, as far as I could tell, like me, not really into crypto at the time. You can't say it was 'shielded' from the world - someone at the IPExpo in London showed me the link with the binaries!
I am guessing that a hell of a lot of coins mined early are either lost or forgotten about. I only recovered mine after I joined BCT and got help with my wallet.
Anyway, thanks for an interesting and measured (for Bytecoin topics!) post.
Im not someone like you who needs to hype their coins.
I would be on Bytecoin if was not for the premine I read.You should do a bit more reading and not listen to the monero shills with their endless, inane threads.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=755840.0
I was mining Bytecoin towards the end of 2012 - as far as I am aware there was no premine and anyone who tells you different is a shill for another coin, Bytecoin clone or has just been sucked in by the monero goons.
Nice try! But I was mining this coin back in October 2012 on a stinkpad using just the daemon and wallet. I hadn't even heard of bitcointalk at that time. I wasn't the only one - it was discussed at some length on Tor4chan which is where I downloaded the binaries from a link on a post.
I rediscovered bytecoin a while back here on BCT-Alts and some helpful people helped me get by BCN back.
I rediscovered bytecoin a while back here on BCT-Alts and some helpful people helped me get by BCN back.
Nice try! Liar, show us the proof, no one showed anything that proves the BCN existed before 2014/2013. Only proof existing is that the blockchain and documents are forged, thank god the technology was saved by Monero.
Oh! Being called a liar really hurts coming from a 1 post Monero shill called bcnscam!
Listen out! Mummy will be calling you for tea and bedtime soon!
First off, I'm not writing this to promote any other coin, it's simply and plainly critique of Bytecoin itself.
But you are a Monero shill - panicked because your coin capitalisation is dropping through the floor. You also copied the thread title 'Exposing the Monero conspiracy'. Not very imaginative are you! Bytecoin was and is the first Cryptonote coin. That is a fact.
Edit: Sorry my bad - it was actually "Unveiling the truth over the major Monero scam"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=755840.0
Not only does it show up from nowhere, after secretly being mined for 2 years without anyone on bitcointalk noticing it. When they do show up, they make sure to do so with mysterious music playing in the background http://bytecoin.org/old/index.html
Nice try! But I was mining this coin back in October 2012 on a stinkpad using just the daemon and wallet. I hadn't even heard of bitcointalk at that time. I wasn't the only one - it was discussed at some length on Tor4chan which is where I downloaded the binaries from a link on a post.
I rediscovered bytecoin a while back here on BCT-Alts and some helpful people helped me get by BCN back.
I see Monero is in Free-Fall.
I for one won't be sorry to see the back of it. Even though I had a few Monero and was mining it (briefly) the devs came out and to my face called me a liar. Naturally I sold my Monero and no longer have anything to do with it.
I for one won't be sorry to see the back of it. Even though I had a few Monero and was mining it (briefly) the devs came out and to my face called me a liar. Naturally I sold my Monero and no longer have anything to do with it.
[Awaits Paid Monero Sock Puppets to jump on thread with their bile]
You will be waiting a long time, since we have no paid sock puppets. Sorry to disappoint you.
You can't resist, can you! Getting a rise is like clockwork.
You're not a Python scrypt are you?
How to start cryptonote daemon in background, on ubuntu (server)?
I tried to use `nohup` and `start-stop-daemon -Svbx` but in first case daemon falls with "Failed to read line. Stopping...", and in second daemon don't starts.
I tried to use `nohup` and `start-stop-daemon -Svbx` but in first case daemon falls with "Failed to read line. Stopping...", and in second daemon don't starts.
I found this quick guide from a Monero guy handy.
It references monero but all cn is just a replace coinname and it's good for that.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612795.0
Daemon starts with nothing more than ./bytecoind and then do a ctl-a & d to detach from the terminal. Handy if you are ssh-ing into your ubuntu box and want to close the sesion.