What I don't understand is why people still rent from here for so expensive price and so many "tickets", when you can get stable, reliable hashrate for half a price at NH and never need to create a ticket for any kind of refunds...

Miners cannot choose which order to join. Even if you set p= higher than Currently paying and lower than high paying order, your miner will be disconnected. If you want to mine, you only need to have p= lower or equal to Currently paying value, thus part of table with info for buyers is useless for miners - it is there only for buyers so they can see for what price they can get hashing power. Same goes for buyers - miners part of table is useless for them - currently paying rate gives them no info about current hashrate market (they need to know order book, price interval of orders).

I don't understand how is it possible that after change of ownership, this service became so shitty?

Before, there were no downtimes, but now, constant down times and what is even worse, you don't explain why the downtime, you always just say 'its our hosters fault'. Dont you have premium hosting that costs more than 1000 usd a month? I don't think premium hostings have such fall outs every 2 weeks.

To me, this more looks like incompetence to run the service. If this will continue, soon, all we will be able to do is say R.I.P. betarigs.

And seriously, look at the features, what did you add and what did you took away? There are no more graphs, there are less features than before, but all you could do is drastically higher up the fees. Really great work! You were dealing with features that are not so important like hiring multiple rigs at once, but how about most important one - online wallet, so we can stop opening tickets for every damn transaction that gets lost because your service doesn't work?

Miaviator - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=57116

is/was General Manager of GAW:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gaw-miners-appoints-jonah-dorman-150000905.html
https://mobile.twitter.com/miaviator

And this guy has positive trust on this forum? How is this possible?

Also there is some shady post deleting happening in thread of his LeaseRig service:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=544732

Miaviator - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=57116

is/was General Manager of GAW:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gaw-miners-appoints-jonah-dorman-150000905.html
https://mobile.twitter.com/miaviator

And this guy has positive trust on this forum? How is this possible?

Also there is some shady post deleting happening in thread of his LeaseRig service:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=544732

Send your IP to info@nicehash.com

They helped me that way when this happened to me.

Couldn't go past that after seeing this nice proof:

Miningrigrental prices of cheapest rigs - prices going from 0.0111 BTC/GH/Day and up.


NiceHash price for renting 200 TH/s in fixed order (that means guaranteed speed, no need to worry about bidding) - only 0.0106 BTC/GH/Day.


So, tell me, am I crazy or are these people who still rent from much more expensive site?

Miningrigrentals is expensive. NiceHash is way better choice to rent from. You can actually make profit there, while with miningrigrentals, you will always pay too much and end up with a loss.

According to this; we can all do this. Create massive amounts of rigs on betarigs, each one with 0.0001 higher price. In the back have only 1 rig. In rig config, set highest priority pools to ones with higher price. That way your rig is constantly hired, for no work time customers need to fill ticket (if they do - some don't). You can gain a lot that way. How do you fight against such manipulation?

There are no better than NiceHash sites for getting hashpower. I will now tell you why.

1. In 99% cases, prices are there the lowest to buy, which is understandable, because buyers determine them, not miners. Yesterday, you could get SHA256 power for as little as 0.0075 for many hours. You could earn quite some amount mining bitcoins. I earned net 0.22, but I could have more if I invested more. I could never earn extra on plain bitcoin mining if I hired from here or MRR, because miners always set their prices so high.

2. You never have to worry about not getting what you pay for. This means you save time, because you don't have to write tickets. Think about wasted time dealing with support on MRR or BetaRigs.

3. With their new features such as bot and fixed orders, overbidding is the past. I haven't tried bot yet, but I put fixed orders many times, because in 90% of cases, fixed prices are still lower than cheapest rigs here or MRR. Cheapest rigs usually give you the most problems and tickets writting, so you need to buy a bit more expensive rig and that rig usually have higher price, too.

4. Save time when renting. This one goes both way, even if you are a miner, NiceHash is a pool - you don't have to bother about setting price and constantly watch what are the rates to maximize profit. When you hire rigs, you need time to analyze each rig, check feedbacks and the determine if it is worth hiring. If this is one rig, it is not a big issue, but when you hire more, this can suck quite some time - time which you could spend doing something else more profitable. There are larger farms to hire - MRR has quite some of them - but these are in most cases way too high on price, sometimes owners want 100% more for them compared to smaller rigs. I never understood and I still don't what is the benefit of hiring so expensive farms, because at the end od the day, you loose. And if it is for gambling purposes, then there are better ways to gamble, where your luck is more near 50% (casino?) - in this situation is more near 5% only.

5. High risk due to inability to cancel rental. This is very important when you are on a heist to actually earn coins from hiring not only gamble. Things can quickly turn, coin diff may quickly rise or price can quickly drop. If you are locked in long term rental, you will, at the end, only make loss, even if the price at start was promising you profit. That is why short time rentals are prefered, but again funny thing I noticed is that rigs available for short time are more expensive.

The only way to earn more coins from BetaRigs or MRR is to put your rigs for rental with higher price and feed on suckers that are stupid enough to gamble with your rigs. But this requires time. And I didn't buy my ants to spend extra time constantly monitoring market. I bought them to generate me steady maximal mining profit without my time, because as soon as I spend time with them, ROI increases. That is why I decided to let my ants on NiceHash/WestHash and stop spending time constantly adjusting price. And rather focus this time in opportunities like yesterday, when SHA256 price was so low.

Betarigs, after being taken over by new owners, is far worse when it comes to quality. What is actually happening? Are your programmers completely lame and can't do things the proper way?

Agree, NiceHash or WestHash the best choice 100%.

This list is for buyers. If you are miner like me, all you have to do is point your miner towards NiceHash or WestHash stratum and enjoy great profits. You get paid for each submitted share - this update on your own personal stat page every minute, their stats show that in past 30 days NiceHash/WestHash has been paying 1.5% above regular bitcoin mining profit. And their fees are 2% which is very low for PPS pool.

They can give you this good deal, because they resell your hashing power to other people (who buy it). If you only care about maximizing profit like me with no bullshit scam pools that makes some promises of good profits but eventually turn out as a scam or have irregular payments, then NiceHash/WestHash is the only way to go.

All working fine here. Contact support at info@nicehash.com and you will get reply what might be the issue. Maybe you got temporary banned?

NiceHash is one of the fairest pool I've ever seen. They are also the only left on Poolpicker's comparison table (well, multipool.us is still there). There used to be more pools, but they requested to be removed from it, because they mostly had big negative ratio of what they "advertise" and what you actually get.

Here is for scrypt: http://poolpicker.eu/vs?algo=scrypt
X11: http://poolpicker.eu/vs?algo=x11
X13: http://poolpicker.eu/vs?algo=x13

As you can see, only NiceHash is still on (and multipool.us for scrypt), other pools wanted to be removed so they can continue to cheat miners.

The only thing I am missing about suchmoon's stats are maybe some SHA256 stats, since I am a SHA256 miner. But keep up the good work

The other day I was thinking bitcoin itself is decentralized, but everything around it is centralized or striving towards being centralized. Let's just take a look at this forum for example. Here are certain people in such power that if they decide, they can destroy you - your forum nickname. Members with trust can give you negative trust for no reason and you have no way to fight against that. Admins can ban you with no reason. Isn't that the principle of "centralization" - a few people having power to do anything and with no justified reasons?

There is something strange happening on NiceHash. According to my graph, and graph of other miners, our hashrate actually goes up, above declared for some time. Not that I am complaining, since I am paid now even more, but I am curious what is goin on? I have never seen this before.

You are saying this from buyers point of view? Me, as a seller, I constantly make profit, small, due to high electricity cost, but more than mining direct Bitcoins.

Is it possible to get some confirmation, whether newly signups are on list or denied? Thank you.

O, I am interested, what was the problem exactly?