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I'm just wondering what the cost would be to switch to BinanceSmartChain? I'm sure as a community we could raise the funds for the switch if the community agrees on switching. Also from what I have seen with other projects the dev can do a lot with future developments and we'll still be able to have staking. The only concern I have is raising enough funds for the liquidity pool on PancakeSwap unless MOIN has an IDO to help raise funds also but the project must attract the people with something unique compared to other projects for them to buy.
MOIN has so much potential and right now I think we are missing a big opportunity as the bull market is here and now.
MOIN has so much potential and right now I think we are missing a big opportunity as the bull market is here and now.
I think we might be ready for the alt season of 2040 ๐
I kinda gave up on Moin after seeing that nothing has been done in 4 years. Plus we lost all of the exchanges. I don't really see a comeback from this as things have gone from bad to worse. I mean, even King isn't replying anymore and I can see that he has been online. Shows how much he cares about the only people who supported this projects for the last 4 years. At least he can come to say hello or something
Would you ever suggest to a friend to buy Moin? I sure would not. But I would suggest it to my worst enemy if there was an actual exchange from where you can buy it
I just hope that the lies and the delusions would stop. If I here one more time from King that he has been busy and is still learning I am gonna hang myself. I have finished college in less time than this "research" has been going on
Apologies for the rant but I just can't do anymore this whole positive cheering for our "dev" as he has done nothing worth mentioning after 4 years. Hey, maybe I can be a lead dev too as the requirements seem to be non existing
I can understand your frustration mate as we all hoped that by now we would of seen something as there has been a long enough time to get something done. For myself who has been holding for close to 5 years feels the frustration from some of the members in the MOIN community which is why I have put forward ways this project can move forward but we need to see what KingCaper thinks. I to would like for him to come here and at least let us know what's going on and whether he wants to continue with the project. Hopefully we see him come and say hello soon.
I don't even care about the price of Moin to be frank. I have invested some money but I am well diversified. What I am annoyed by is when someone is trying to make a fool out of me for 4 years and doesn't even have the decency to take responsibility. And I sure don't have patience anymore to fake politeness and keep on cheering for some stuff that are never going to happen
I just feel like we should maybe try to look for some alternative solutions. I am not opposed to donating some of my gains from other projects but not before we see some changes around. I would rather donate money and hire a real dev then just switch to other chain and chase more exchanges from which we will be delisted sooner or later as the project is stagnant
Hope no one takes this personal but rather as an objective view of our situation
I understand mate and yes I agree, no point switching to a token if there isn't going to be any future developments. I just brought it up as it could be the way to go as it will help get on DEXs but then again we need the liquidity to have a stable price while the dev works on developments. The longer this goes on like this the more people will leave which is what we are seeing. There are less nodes online now and the discord is very silent now days so lets just hope that we hear from KingCaper soon. Lets be honest MOIN should be booming in this market but its not because when someone comes here or looks at the project, they see no dev activity.
Hey Vella, yeah all we can do is wait for KingCaper. My node went offline a couple of weeks ago and is stuck on 99.4% as I try to sync to the chain. Is your node still online? Thanks!
Sorry I haven't been able to reply as I had no internet for several days. I'm having the same trouble mate as the connections continue to decrease as more people are not staking anymore and I also noticed that on BTCPop there are no buy orders for MOIN so its basically dying which is a same because I had high hopes for MOIN to be a top project. I just hope KingCaper at least updates us on what we can do to move this project forward. I have already given some suggestions along with a few other members but we get no reply.
Did you mange to get your wallet to sync?
Hey Vella, no I didn't manage to but a few of the guys on the discord have their nodes online. I have had driver issues with my staking rig and lost the ability to connect to wifi. So, i need to fix that on the weekend.
Re: ๐๐๐๐ โโโโโ โฒ MOIN โโโโโ It's not dead. It's resting โโโโ ๐๐๐๐
I'm just wondering what the cost would be to switch to BinanceSmartChain? I'm sure as a community we could raise the funds for the switch if the community agrees on switching. Also from what I have seen with other projects the dev can do a lot with future developments and we'll still be able to have staking. The only concern I have is raising enough funds for the liquidity pool on PancakeSwap unless MOIN has an IDO to help raise funds also but the project must attract the people with something unique compared to other projects for them to buy.
MOIN has so much potential and right now I think we are missing a big opportunity as the bull market is here and now.
MOIN has so much potential and right now I think we are missing a big opportunity as the bull market is here and now.
I think we might be ready for the alt season of 2040 ๐
I kinda gave up on Moin after seeing that nothing has been done in 4 years. Plus we lost all of the exchanges. I don't really see a comeback from this as things have gone from bad to worse. I mean, even King isn't replying anymore and I can see that he has been online. Shows how much he cares about the only people who supported this projects for the last 4 years. At least he can come to say hello or something
Would you ever suggest to a friend to buy Moin? I sure would not. But I would suggest it to my worst enemy if there was an actual exchange from where you can buy it
I just hope that the lies and the delusions would stop. If I here one more time from King that he has been busy and is still learning I am gonna hang myself. I have finished college in less time than this "research" has been going on
Apologies for the rant but I just can't do anymore this whole positive cheering for our "dev" as he has done nothing worth mentioning after 4 years. Hey, maybe I can be a lead dev too as the requirements seem to be non existing
I can understand your frustration mate as we all hoped that by now we would of seen something as there has been a long enough time to get something done. For myself who has been holding for close to 5 years feels the frustration from some of the members in the MOIN community which is why I have put forward ways this project can move forward but we need to see what KingCaper thinks. I to would like for him to come here and at least let us know what's going on and whether he wants to continue with the project. Hopefully we see him come and say hello soon.
I don't even care about the price of Moin to be frank. I have invested some money but I am well diversified. What I am annoyed by is when someone is trying to make a fool out of me for 4 years and doesn't even have the decency to take responsibility. And I sure don't have patience anymore to fake politeness and keep on cheering for some stuff that are never going to happen
I just feel like we should maybe try to look for some alternative solutions. I am not opposed to donating some of my gains from other projects but not before we see some changes around. I would rather donate money and hire a real dev then just switch to other chain and chase more exchanges from which we will be delisted sooner or later as the project is stagnant
Hope no one takes this personal but rather as an objective view of our situation
I understand mate and yes I agree, no point switching to a token if there isn't going to be any future developments. I just brought it up as it could be the way to go as it will help get on DEXs but then again we need the liquidity to have a stable price while the dev works on developments. The longer this goes on like this the more people will leave which is what we are seeing. There are less nodes online now and the discord is very silent now days so lets just hope that we hear from KingCaper soon. Lets be honest MOIN should be booming in this market but its not because when someone comes here or looks at the project, they see no dev activity.
Hey Vella, yeah all we can do is wait for KingCaper. My node went offline a couple of weeks ago and is stuck on 99.4% as I try to sync to the chain. Is your node still online? Thanks!
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Hi guys, don't want to be a party pooper but I think we will miss this alt season. We had 3 years and things went from bad to worse. Hope no one is all in as you might be missing some serious gains with other coins. Sometimes things don't work out. Just trying to be realistic
Maybe we'll catch the next alt season ๐
Maybe we'll catch the next alt season ๐
Perhaps I got a little too excited there. I share your sentiment. The last 3 years didn't really work out and looking back apart from moinmovement I don't recall any development. A part of me just wants moin to keep on living. We've been here since 2014-2015 so no point in dying yet. That is one thing we will always have.
I've been making a list of possible exchanges we can submit to and will post it here in a few days.
Regardless, looks like the next few days, months, or year(s) will be quite the ride for crypto. Just hope you guys didn't go all in on dogecoin
P.s. In the meantime, here's quite a good read: https://uniswap.org/blog/uniswap-history/. Vella's idea on restarting as a token makes sense, after all we could just use a DEX and solidity is a high-level language. But most moiners like the staking bit. Perhaps kingcaper could consider this and give an honest view of where he sees moin going. We'll have to walk until we can run again. With time and effort I hope moin will live, we somehow made it this far. Just gotta figure out the effort part.
Yes I understand that most in the community like staking and I am one of them. If MOIN does switch to a token it doesn't mean we will lose staking as there are many tokens now staking as the yieldfarming hype has cooled off and more tokens are now staking so we can still have staking with MOIN, it will just be a token instead. We are seeing a lot of DEXs now which is good as we can get MOIN on all of them like UniSwap, Sushi and now the new DEX 1Inch and if anyone is worried about high gas fees there are ways around this with using a Bridge to BinanceSmartChain or if we can get onto Loopring DEX so there are many options when it comes to exchanges if MOIN switches over to tokens.
Not a bad idea to be honest Vella. Switching to an ERC20 could be a good solution for ongoing exchange support, but I guess we just need to sort out what the Moin project want's to achieve. You're right though, in the mean time we could do a swap.
There are many options out there right now even swapping to BSC is another option or swap to ERC20 and use a bridge for BSC. That's right it all depends on what KingCaper wants to do with MOIN because I will be honest and say that its basically dead right now as I'm also seeing less connections then before so I'm guessing some people are dropping off from staking MOIN and supporting the network. We have a good chance to make MOIN into something great again. By the way I continue to stake and support the network as I have been for years now.
Thanks for your support! Same, I will continue to stake to keep the network alive.
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Hi guys, don't want to be a party pooper but I think we will miss this alt season. We had 3 years and things went from bad to worse. Hope no one is all in as you might be missing some serious gains with other coins. Sometimes things don't work out. Just trying to be realistic
Maybe we'll catch the next alt season ๐
Maybe we'll catch the next alt season ๐
Perhaps I got a little too excited there. I share your sentiment. The last 3 years didn't really work out and looking back apart from moinmovement I don't recall any development. A part of me just wants moin to keep on living. We've been here since 2014-2015 so no point in dying yet. That is one thing we will always have.
I've been making a list of possible exchanges we can submit to and will post it here in a few days.
Regardless, looks like the next few days, months, or year(s) will be quite the ride for crypto. Just hope you guys didn't go all in on dogecoin
P.s. In the meantime, here's quite a good read: https://uniswap.org/blog/uniswap-history/. Vella's idea on restarting as a token makes sense, after all we could just use a DEX and solidity is a high-level language. But most moiners like the staking bit. Perhaps kingcaper could consider this and give an honest view of where he sees moin going. We'll have to walk until we can run again. With time and effort I hope moin will live, we somehow made it this far. Just gotta figure out the effort part.
Yes I understand that most in the community like staking and I am one of them. If MOIN does switch to a token it doesn't mean we will lose staking as there are many tokens now staking as the yieldfarming hype has cooled off and more tokens are now staking so we can still have staking with MOIN, it will just be a token instead. We are seeing a lot of DEXs now which is good as we can get MOIN on all of them like UniSwap, Sushi and now the new DEX 1Inch and if anyone is worried about high gas fees there are ways around this with using a Bridge to BinanceSmartChain or if we can get onto Loopring DEX so there are many options when it comes to exchanges if MOIN switches over to tokens.
Not a bad idea to be honest Vella. Switching to an ERC20 could be a good solution for ongoing exchange support, but I guess we just need to sort out what the Moin project want's to achieve. You're right though, in the mean time we could do a swap.
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Happy new year everyone! Here's to the future!
Happy New Year!
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The main thing is that we still have BTCPop to trade MOIN on. I have mentioned Unnamed exchange in here before so it might be time to take a look at this exchange and maybe we as a community can pitch in for getting MOIN listed. Its just a shame that BTC has gone up a lot since I mentioned Unnamed as the listing fee was 0.05 BTC and I don't know if they lowered it or will keep it at 0.05.
Hey Vella, I didn't realise we were listed on BTCpop, tbh, I had never heard of them before. Yeah, I'm sure the exchanges wouldn't drop the listing fee just before a bull run
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It seems livecoin was hacked. Will look into altilly as a backup.
Merry Moinmas!
Merry Moinmas!
Altilly was hacked too
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Guys! Sorry to give you all a scare, I've been a bit busy on the outside world lately and I was away from keyboard all week last week so only learned about the website issue today. I've been paying the domains and hosting fees since the start but I didn't notice the hosting had expired a couple weeks back. Discovermoin.com redirects to the explorer for now while I go hunting for a backup of the site. Apologies again, I'm still here!
Hey KingCaper, good to hear from you! And glad that we resolved the URL issue, that was a good pickup from Tree! It could have been a bit of a disaster!
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Tree and I were looking into it a bit more and the discovermoin website was just down. And it linked to a random website in the mean time. So, we need to chat to KC about getting the main site and block explorer up and running again. Hopefully soon
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Huge problem, discovermoin.com is now some sort of blog page. Gonna contact kingcaper about this, hope that he replies. We still have moinmovement.org. Perhaps this is a good opportunity to start moin off a blank slate.
I think it's definitely an opportunity to regroup and investigate options.
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I had a look at your idea and I must say that I'm impressed with it as it does give MOIN a use case and also can be used as added security on websites. We haven't heard from KingCaper in a while so hopefully we get an update from him soon and get his opinion on this idea as I'm all for it.
Thanks, I think as the idea develops it could be refined, but the core concept it's good. Yes, it could be used as an alternative to google authenticator or email/text based authentication. I think multi-factor authentication could be a unique feature too, which would require multiple user addresses to be confirmed before access is granted.
From a coin supply perspective, current supply is 9 million with a total of 21 million, so assuming the 2FA project got mass adoption, we would likely have to ensure there was enough going around to maintain usability. I am also unsure if the coins sent for Authentication should be burned or sent to a central wallet for MOIN development. We can work out the details later though.
Beyond this, there are some key things I'd love from a MOIN project wish list. Effectively, a real privacy based eco-system.
- Mobile wallet storage
- Mobile encrypted chat (in-wallet private / group chat)
- The ability to sync a mobile and desktop wallet / chat
- Two-factor authentication (as described in image)
- Multi-factor authentication (similar to 2FA but requires 51% (2+ more people) of specified addresses to approve access
- Cold staking
- Hardware wallet storage
Well I think it can work even with the current max supply as the dev could just lower the amount of MOIN needed for authentication and also depending on the price it can be lowered or increased. I believe I mentioned cold staking in here a while ago as I think its another good way to stake and I have seen several projects do this and have had great success with it.
Yeah, that's right, we could just use 0.00000001 MOIN as the required amount. I think having them transferred to a development fund is a good idea too, because that could put for moin back onto the market and give MOIN a sustainable business case.
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I had a look at your idea and I must say that I'm impressed with it as it does give MOIN a use case and also can be used as added security on websites. We haven't heard from KingCaper in a while so hopefully we get an update from him soon and get his opinion on this idea as I'm all for it.
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Thanks, I think as the idea develops it could be refined, but the core concept it good. From a coin supply perspective, current supply is 9 million, so assuming it got mass adoption, we would likely have to ensure there was enough going around to maintain usability. I am also, unsure if the coins sent for Authentication should be burned or sent to a central wallet for MOIN development. We can work out the details later though.
Beyond this, there are some key things I'd love from a MOIN project wish list. Effectively, a real privacy based eco-system.
- Mobile wallet storage
- Mobile encrypted chat (in-wallet private / group chat)
- The ability to sync a mobile and desktop wallet / chat
- Two-factor authentication (as described in image)
- Multi-factor authentication (similar to 2FA but requires 51% (2+ more people) of specified addresses to approve access
- Cold staking
- Hardware wallet storage
And my personal favourite:
- BBS (bulletin Board System) managed / stored on the blockchain
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Thanks all for your input, opinions and ideas. I'm swept up in some real world business that will keep me afk for the next 2 or 3 weeks, but I'll reply properly when I can. A vague plan is slowly hatching.
As an aside, I've noticed recently several communities concerned that their project of choice might be running out of funds. I want to assure all of you that there's no danger of that here... we don't have a dime and we never did!
We should change that though. More to follow. Stay safe!
As an aside, I've noticed recently several communities concerned that their project of choice might be running out of funds. I want to assure all of you that there's no danger of that here... we don't have a dime and we never did!
We should change that though. More to follow. Stay safe!
Hey KingCaper, I had this idea for a blockchain project, I think it's inline with MOIN's values as a privacy project. It's a method of creating a two-factor / multi-factor authentication system leveraging a blockchain network. I have created a bit of an overview in the image below. It would be great to get feedback from the wider MOIN community on the concept too.
https://imgur.com/a/Ik0qr6F
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We could also just apply for listing on an exchange that has voting. That way we could get a discounted price or even a free listing. Altilly has that option. https://www.altilly.com/page/listingvote We could easily get on I think.
I think this is a good option. The exchange seems reasonable, I have used it a bit
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It's also just kind of risky that we're on only one exchange. Any small exchanges/DEXs you guys think would be good for a listing?
I think we could get listed on Altilly, which lists a few other projects I'm invested in. However, I think we need to update our whitepaper first, as they want to understand the goal and current / ongoing progress of the project. Also, listing fees are 0.15BTC, so we could do a fundraiser. What are your thoughts?
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I think a small listing is a start. Not sure how expensive they are, but we'd probably get a significant volume boost just by adding more options to buy moin. In the event that kingcaper decides to fork, it'd still take months to do so. Plus getting a new exchange would be a good sign for newcomers to the project. Any thoughts?
I think you are right Tree, trying to get additional exchanges where possible might be a good start.
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We are coming up to 3 weeks since KingCaper's post so I'm eagerly waiting to see what ideas he has planned for MOIN moving forward. I really do think now is the time to start brain storming and coming up with ideas on what direction MOIN should head in so I think a poll would be ideal for ideas and then the community can vote on which direction MOIN should take.
Same, I would be interested to see what KingCaper has in mind. taking a pragmatic view, it's easy to think of an amazing idea, but it's much more difficult to execute that idea, especially with limited resources. So, I believe that leveraging what we have available is a good start. What key features within the MOIN codebase could be leveraged to build a "minimum viable product" and what other features could be borrow from other projects to improve our product.
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Hi everyone! Just checking in, didn't know the thread was active! Looking forward to more ideas.
Treefrog! You made it!
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Thanks all for your input, opinions and ideas. I'm swept up in some real world business that will keep me afk for the next 2 or 3 weeks, but I'll reply properly when I can. A vague plan is slowly hatching.
As an aside, I've noticed recently several communities concerned that their project of choice might be running out of funds. I want to assure all of you that there's no danger of that here... we don't have a dime and we never did!
We should change that though. More to follow. Stay safe!
As an aside, I've noticed recently several communities concerned that their project of choice might be running out of funds. I want to assure all of you that there's no danger of that here... we don't have a dime and we never did!
We should change that though. More to follow. Stay safe!
Thanks for the update!
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So, what is the best way of deciding the future path of the project?
That's the big question, as a community we could come up with ideas on a use case for MOIN moving forward. We as a community can put together some ideas on a use case, I know we have already talked about messaging which I think is a good idea but I'm sure there are more ideas out there that people think will be good for MOIN.
We definitely need to form a consensus as a community prior to making any major decisions. I would encourage any active MOIN community members to post your ideas. Sometimes sound-boarding ideas off of other people yields the best results. As I have mentioned, encrypted chat or email in a mobile wallet would be my preference. It would be great to hear everyone elses.
I had an idea of in wallet advertising however for this to work and for advertisers wanting to promote their products we would need a massive member base. I have seen some wallets have updates build inside the wallet so when you open it up there is the latest news updates from the dev team and that's when I thought that this could also work for advertising, not sure how it would all work but I don't believe any other project is doing anything like this at the moment.
That's not a bad idea. I'm not sure how many impressions / click throughs you would get from a wallet, unless you needed to use the wallet often for some reason. So, maybe the wallet advertising could be added as a component of the final solution?