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May you provide more information regarding the Pu-erh u got?
'Pu-erh leaves are actually aged and go through a natural fermentation process before the tea is gently dried. This creates a cup with zero astringency and deep, rich body. In Asia, Pu-erh teas are also known for their slimming and medicinal properties. Our direct-trade advantage ensures superior taste, freshness and value.
Ingredient: Vietnamese pu-erh from Đắk Lắk province, Thái Nguyên highland, Northeastern of Vietnam
Height above Sea Level: 900 - 1200 m, t: 7-21 ºC
Usefulness: For Stomach, Detox, For Weight Loss, Tonic.'
Tea comes black or green, sweet or tart, with whole slices of tropical fruits, or as medicinal herbs. Traditional Vietnamese green tea is drunk daily by natives while premiere lotus tea has been formally served to the Kings for thousand of years. Now all Vietnamese tea is in a box, producing the most cheerful mood in the morning. We have relaxing teas, weight loss teas that help you to lose kilo by kilo, or teas that cleanse your liver from toxins after a couple weeks of use, unique and exceptional Vietnamese teas are collected from 200-year old trees and many others.
WHAT'S INSIDE?
32 tea varieties from 18 provinces all over Vietnam.
Direct from farmers. Hermetically packed, all health benefits are fully preserved.
32 different Vietnamese people in the book inside. 32 real interviews, real stories of their lives plus a collection of 32 fun facts about Vietnam to help you learn about true Vietnam, much more than what you will learn from the window of a tourist bus.
Box size: 47,5*18,5*6 cm, weight: 1380 g
TEA INSIDE
Lychee Lemongrass Tea, Stinging Leaf of Immortality from Sapa, Twilight Sage Tea (Pu-erh), Shan Snow Old Tea, The Silver Needle (kuding), Lemongrass Tea (Organic), Curving Leaf Jasmine Tea, Premium Lotus Heart Tea, Jasmine Tea from Thai Nguyen Province, Jasmine Cinnamon Tea, Vietnamese Bitter Melon Tea, Green Tea from Tan Cuong Province, Imperial Hue Tea, Blue Rose Tea, Loose Leaf Pu-erh, Kingly Dream Oolong, Summer Peach Tea, Artichoke Flower Tea, Chrysanthemum Tea, Rosebud Tea, Nutmeg Oolong, Blao Lotus Tea, Pandan Tea, Clover Tea, Jasminum Subtriplinerve, Young Milk Oolong, Phyllanthus Urinaria, Valnilla Coconut Tea (Organic), Traditional Vietnamese Green Tea, South Mint Tea (Organic), Ginger Tea, Golden Health- Ginseng Oolong.
http://www.amazon.com/FARMERS-Flavors-Loose-Leaf-Green/dp/B00NKGUY9S
$100 (BTC Equivalent), Shipping $10 worldwide, includes some free Vietnamese coffee...Escrow ok at your cost
WHAT'S INSIDE?
32 tea varieties from 18 provinces all over Vietnam.
Direct from farmers. Hermetically packed, all health benefits are fully preserved.
32 different Vietnamese people in the book inside. 32 real interviews, real stories of their lives plus a collection of 32 fun facts about Vietnam to help you learn about true Vietnam, much more than what you will learn from the window of a tourist bus.
Box size: 47,5*18,5*6 cm, weight: 1380 g
TEA INSIDE
Lychee Lemongrass Tea, Stinging Leaf of Immortality from Sapa, Twilight Sage Tea (Pu-erh), Shan Snow Old Tea, The Silver Needle (kuding), Lemongrass Tea (Organic), Curving Leaf Jasmine Tea, Premium Lotus Heart Tea, Jasmine Tea from Thai Nguyen Province, Jasmine Cinnamon Tea, Vietnamese Bitter Melon Tea, Green Tea from Tan Cuong Province, Imperial Hue Tea, Blue Rose Tea, Loose Leaf Pu-erh, Kingly Dream Oolong, Summer Peach Tea, Artichoke Flower Tea, Chrysanthemum Tea, Rosebud Tea, Nutmeg Oolong, Blao Lotus Tea, Pandan Tea, Clover Tea, Jasminum Subtriplinerve, Young Milk Oolong, Phyllanthus Urinaria, Valnilla Coconut Tea (Organic), Traditional Vietnamese Green Tea, South Mint Tea (Organic), Ginger Tea, Golden Health- Ginseng Oolong.
http://www.amazon.com/FARMERS-Flavors-Loose-Leaf-Green/dp/B00NKGUY9S
$100 (BTC Equivalent), Shipping $10 worldwide, includes some free Vietnamese coffee...Escrow ok at your cost
Re: Coinographic - DO NOT BUY! A warning to the community!
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20417.msg253384#msg253384
I wanted to post to address a couple of the issues raised and try my best to answer them;
1. We have not appointed a liquidator for the simple reason we cannot afford one. We have posted a link so that anyone can request a wind-up order for our company. At that point a liquidator will be appointed. We have no liquidator information to post because there isnt one as yet.
so you want us to pay to wind up your business?
2. We do have some stock but not as many as people think. All we have in our hands are 1ltc coins. The silver coins are being retained by the coin manufacture. The coins we are holding will be given to a liquidator should one be appointed. We also have a lot of boxes, holograms & proto-type coins as assets.
so what happened to the 45 bull, 29 chickun and 38 LA coins you emailed me about in Jan?i offered to buy them off you when you emailed me and said they were in stock? Did you sell them? Did you sell them to Charles Lee like you said you would? If so where are those funds?
3. We have shut everything down because we can no longer operate as a company and have exhausted all possibilities of trying to raise capital to make things right. Neither the company nor I own a single Bitcoin or Litecoin
i am confused, where did all the coins people send you go? Let's be honest mark the only mold you had made was the 5BTC coin and that was finished before people sent you lots of funds.
4. Since we announced our problems we have not sold a single coin, we did not accept any orders that we knew we were not going to be able to fill.
Bullshit - Mark do you forget our conversations on the phone, the emails you sent, luckily I recorded them all -- you have been having problems since what November? Are you saying I didn't make payments at a time you knew you were not going to be able to fill - where did these coins go Mark. You may as well share this info here as you will have to share it in court - by the way I have requested judgement be made in person at the court so I can provide evidence in person and Mark there is a lot of it building up. EVERYONE who sent Mark funds after November please post below
5. Any monies received for pre-orders of the bitcoin collection were invested into the company and the production of those coins. We paid for molds, dies, prototypes, boxes, holograms, competitions, designs, website, advertising, hosting, office costs, and internet as well as many other associated costs. I personally invested much more of my own personal money into this project then was ever received in orders.
Mark, did you also not fail to pay your designer? You do realise you will have to evidence these costs referred to above in court, I am pretty sure the amount you have received in BTC and LTC a will exceed these. By the way your office in Western doesn't exist, neither of them do - one is a virtual office and the other next door to the gift shop well let's just say I spoke with the landlord and shop manager.
6. Support for our product was very low since the company started. We have had no more then 30-40 customers since the company started last April.
7. We never kept any private key information. Redeem your coins if you wish to or cant trust that fact.
8. No fraud has taken place here. Every penny received can be accounted for in costs. We have all the paperwork and details for everything. This is simply a case of a company running out of money and not selling enough products.
Who is Greg Manning? The mystery investor you mentioned was cutting ties with you in December? Did you use the funds to pay him back, you said it was around £8k he wanted so what happened to him, did you use customers funds to pay him his investment back? What about Delia? Either way Mark you are full of shit, I am obtaining their details soon and will speak to them direct.
9. I personally have no money. My other business has also gone bust at the same time. I am struggling to put food on the table for my children. You can DOX me (my information freely available on the net), sue me or visit my house. It doesnt change the fact that there is no money. I dont own a house or any other assets personally. If there was a way I could have sorted this out from my own money, I would have. I had/have no interest in ripping anyone off; I simply do not have any options open to me to resolve this. Closing the company was my last point of action.
I look forward to discussing this in person at court, you have lied lied and lied continuously, but you clearly can not remember your lies, luckily I recorded all conversations and kept every email and PM from you
10. We are not hiding any Bitcoin or Litecoin.
Customers, if you sent Mark any funds after November please state below or PM me. It appears Mark is digging an even bigger whole for himself. Finally, when you login to www.coinographic.com, it states very clear that the company is in liquidation. This is a lie, and it is illegal to claim a company is in liquidation when you have not appointed an insolvency practitioner, this is classified as fraud. No IP has been appointed, Coinographic states this in order to scare away people from taking action. An IP costs anywhere from £5-10k on average
I wanted to post to address a couple of the issues raised and try my best to answer them;
1. We have not appointed a liquidator for the simple reason we cannot afford one. We have posted a link so that anyone can request a wind-up order for our company. At that point a liquidator will be appointed. We have no liquidator information to post because there isnt one as yet.
so you want us to pay to wind up your business?
2. We do have some stock but not as many as people think. All we have in our hands are 1ltc coins. The silver coins are being retained by the coin manufacture. The coins we are holding will be given to a liquidator should one be appointed. We also have a lot of boxes, holograms & proto-type coins as assets.
so what happened to the 45 bull, 29 chickun and 38 LA coins you emailed me about in Jan?i offered to buy them off you when you emailed me and said they were in stock? Did you sell them? Did you sell them to Charles Lee like you said you would? If so where are those funds?
3. We have shut everything down because we can no longer operate as a company and have exhausted all possibilities of trying to raise capital to make things right. Neither the company nor I own a single Bitcoin or Litecoin
i am confused, where did all the coins people send you go? Let's be honest mark the only mold you had made was the 5BTC coin and that was finished before people sent you lots of funds.
4. Since we announced our problems we have not sold a single coin, we did not accept any orders that we knew we were not going to be able to fill.
Bullshit - Mark do you forget our conversations on the phone, the emails you sent, luckily I recorded them all -- you have been having problems since what November? Are you saying I didn't make payments at a time you knew you were not going to be able to fill - where did these coins go Mark. You may as well share this info here as you will have to share it in court - by the way I have requested judgement be made in person at the court so I can provide evidence in person and Mark there is a lot of it building up. EVERYONE who sent Mark funds after November please post below
5. Any monies received for pre-orders of the bitcoin collection were invested into the company and the production of those coins. We paid for molds, dies, prototypes, boxes, holograms, competitions, designs, website, advertising, hosting, office costs, and internet as well as many other associated costs. I personally invested much more of my own personal money into this project then was ever received in orders.
Mark, did you also not fail to pay your designer? You do realise you will have to evidence these costs referred to above in court, I am pretty sure the amount you have received in BTC and LTC a will exceed these. By the way your office in Western doesn't exist, neither of them do - one is a virtual office and the other next door to the gift shop well let's just say I spoke with the landlord and shop manager.
6. Support for our product was very low since the company started. We have had no more then 30-40 customers since the company started last April.
7. We never kept any private key information. Redeem your coins if you wish to or cant trust that fact.
8. No fraud has taken place here. Every penny received can be accounted for in costs. We have all the paperwork and details for everything. This is simply a case of a company running out of money and not selling enough products.
Who is Greg Manning? The mystery investor you mentioned was cutting ties with you in December? Did you use the funds to pay him back, you said it was around £8k he wanted so what happened to him, did you use customers funds to pay him his investment back? What about Delia? Either way Mark you are full of shit, I am obtaining their details soon and will speak to them direct.
9. I personally have no money. My other business has also gone bust at the same time. I am struggling to put food on the table for my children. You can DOX me (my information freely available on the net), sue me or visit my house. It doesnt change the fact that there is no money. I dont own a house or any other assets personally. If there was a way I could have sorted this out from my own money, I would have. I had/have no interest in ripping anyone off; I simply do not have any options open to me to resolve this. Closing the company was my last point of action.
I look forward to discussing this in person at court, you have lied lied and lied continuously, but you clearly can not remember your lies, luckily I recorded all conversations and kept every email and PM from you
10. We are not hiding any Bitcoin or Litecoin.
Customers, if you sent Mark any funds after November please state below or PM me. It appears Mark is digging an even bigger whole for himself. Finally, when you login to www.coinographic.com, it states very clear that the company is in liquidation. This is a lie, and it is illegal to claim a company is in liquidation when you have not appointed an insolvency practitioner, this is classified as fraud. No IP has been appointed, Coinographic states this in order to scare away people from taking action. An IP costs anywhere from £5-10k on average
I already commenced legal proceedings against Coinographic last week, he is aware of this. The company is yet in liquidation, no liquidator has been appointment yet according to my solictor.
Refund Owed
He owes me 5.46BTC and 729LTC.
Mark has the following coins in stock and I have emails confirming this, he was trying to get Charlie to buy some coins recently and I am not sure if this went through:
45 bull coins
29 Chicken coins
38 LA coins
352 1 LTC coins
If anyone would like Marks personal details please PM me. I will be back in the UK next month to deal with this and to visit Mark in person to discuss this matter further, if anyone wishes me to take on collection of their debt please PM me.
Please read here: https://www.gov.uk/liquidate-your-company
'You can be banned from being a director for 2 to 15 years or prosecuted if the liquidator decides your conduct was unfit.'
Once I estbablish who the appointment liquidator is, I will post their details here. As you can see above, if the liquidator decides Marks conduct was unfit he will be banned from being a director for 2-15 years. I suggest when I post these details that everyone involved contact the liquidator and explain why Marks conduct was definately unfit and perhaps fraudulent.
Mark is currently the director of this company, http://www.visualsin.co.uk/, company reg: 8709006 which today is showing as CLOSED FOR BUSINESS.
I will update this thread when I have further information. I suggest everyone report this to COMPANIES HOUSE as a 'fraud' to ensure that they are aware of the practices of Coinographic and that they still have stock in hand. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reporting-fraud-about-a-company-to-companies-house, they will work with the liquidators and its likely Mark will not tell the truth to the liquidation team
The Company Investigations team within The Insolvency Service has the power to investigate limited companies where information received suggests corporate abuse, such as:
serious misconduct
fraud or scams
sharp practice in the way a company operates
Also to complain to the INSOLVENCY SERVICE: https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company
I recorded all phone calls with Mark and will be sending these files to the insolvency service whom I complained to this morning along with his emails stating what stock he has in hand.
Can everyone please post the LITECOIN and BITCOIN addresses where they made payments too, that way we can trace these payments on the Blockchain to see where exactly they ended up. Mark continued to take payments for coins yet he has not spent that money anywhere as he did not manufacture the coins. Lets try and find where he channelled these funds too so we can inform the liquidators and courts.
Refund Owed
He owes me 5.46BTC and 729LTC.
Mark has the following coins in stock and I have emails confirming this, he was trying to get Charlie to buy some coins recently and I am not sure if this went through:
45 bull coins
29 Chicken coins
38 LA coins
352 1 LTC coins
If anyone would like Marks personal details please PM me. I will be back in the UK next month to deal with this and to visit Mark in person to discuss this matter further, if anyone wishes me to take on collection of their debt please PM me.
Please read here: https://www.gov.uk/liquidate-your-company
'You can be banned from being a director for 2 to 15 years or prosecuted if the liquidator decides your conduct was unfit.'
Once I estbablish who the appointment liquidator is, I will post their details here. As you can see above, if the liquidator decides Marks conduct was unfit he will be banned from being a director for 2-15 years. I suggest when I post these details that everyone involved contact the liquidator and explain why Marks conduct was definately unfit and perhaps fraudulent.
Mark is currently the director of this company, http://www.visualsin.co.uk/, company reg: 8709006 which today is showing as CLOSED FOR BUSINESS.
I will update this thread when I have further information. I suggest everyone report this to COMPANIES HOUSE as a 'fraud' to ensure that they are aware of the practices of Coinographic and that they still have stock in hand. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reporting-fraud-about-a-company-to-companies-house, they will work with the liquidators and its likely Mark will not tell the truth to the liquidation team
The Company Investigations team within The Insolvency Service has the power to investigate limited companies where information received suggests corporate abuse, such as:
serious misconduct
fraud or scams
sharp practice in the way a company operates
Also to complain to the INSOLVENCY SERVICE: https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company
I recorded all phone calls with Mark and will be sending these files to the insolvency service whom I complained to this morning along with his emails stating what stock he has in hand.
Can everyone please post the LITECOIN and BITCOIN addresses where they made payments too, that way we can trace these payments on the Blockchain to see where exactly they ended up. Mark continued to take payments for coins yet he has not spent that money anywhere as he did not manufacture the coins. Lets try and find where he channelled these funds too so we can inform the liquidators and courts.
I already commenced legal proceedings against Coinographic last week, he is aware of this. The company is yet in liquidation, no liquidator has been appointment yet according to my solictor.
Refund Owed
He owes me 5.46BTC and 729LTC.
Mark has the following coins in stock and I have emails confirming this, he was trying to get Charlie to buy some coins recently and I am not sure if this went through:
45 bull coins
29 Chicken coins
38 LA coins
352 1 LTC coins
If anyone would like Marks personal details please PM me. I will be back in the UK next month to deal with this and to visit Mark in person to discuss this matter further, if anyone wishes me to take on collection of their debt please PM me.
Please read here: https://www.gov.uk/liquidate-your-company
'You can be banned from being a director for 2 to 15 years or prosecuted if the liquidator decides your conduct was unfit.'
Once I estbablish who the appointment liquidator is, I will post their details here. As you can see above, if the liquidator decides Marks conduct was unfit he will be banned from being a director for 2-15 years. I suggest when I post these details that everyone involved contact the liquidator and explain why Marks conduct was definately unfit and perhaps fraudulent.
Mark is currently the director of this company, http://www.visualsin.co.uk/, company reg: 8709006 which today is showing as CLOSED FOR BUSINESS.
I will update this thread when I have further information. I suggest everyone report this to COMPANIES HOUSE as a 'fraud' to ensure that they are aware of the practices of Coinographic and that they still have stock in hand. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reporting-fraud-about-a-company-to-companies-house, they will work with the liquidators and its likely Mark will not tell the truth to the liquidation team
The Company Investigations team within The Insolvency Service has the power to investigate limited companies where information received suggests corporate abuse, such as:
serious misconduct
fraud or scams
sharp practice in the way a company operates
Also to complain to the INSOLVENCY SERVICE: https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company
Can everyone please post the LITECOIN and BITCOIN addresses where they made payments too, that way we can trace these payments on the Blockchain to see where exactly they ended up. Mark continued to take payments for coins yet he has not spent that money anywhere as he did not manufacture the coins. Lets try and find where he channelled these funds too so we can inform the liquidators and courts.
Refund Owed
He owes me 5.46BTC and 729LTC.
Mark has the following coins in stock and I have emails confirming this, he was trying to get Charlie to buy some coins recently and I am not sure if this went through:
45 bull coins
29 Chicken coins
38 LA coins
352 1 LTC coins
If anyone would like Marks personal details please PM me. I will be back in the UK next month to deal with this and to visit Mark in person to discuss this matter further, if anyone wishes me to take on collection of their debt please PM me.
Please read here: https://www.gov.uk/liquidate-your-company
'You can be banned from being a director for 2 to 15 years or prosecuted if the liquidator decides your conduct was unfit.'
Once I estbablish who the appointment liquidator is, I will post their details here. As you can see above, if the liquidator decides Marks conduct was unfit he will be banned from being a director for 2-15 years. I suggest when I post these details that everyone involved contact the liquidator and explain why Marks conduct was definately unfit and perhaps fraudulent.
Mark is currently the director of this company, http://www.visualsin.co.uk/, company reg: 8709006 which today is showing as CLOSED FOR BUSINESS.
I will update this thread when I have further information. I suggest everyone report this to COMPANIES HOUSE as a 'fraud' to ensure that they are aware of the practices of Coinographic and that they still have stock in hand. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reporting-fraud-about-a-company-to-companies-house, they will work with the liquidators and its likely Mark will not tell the truth to the liquidation team
The Company Investigations team within The Insolvency Service has the power to investigate limited companies where information received suggests corporate abuse, such as:
serious misconduct
fraud or scams
sharp practice in the way a company operates
Also to complain to the INSOLVENCY SERVICE: https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company
Can everyone please post the LITECOIN and BITCOIN addresses where they made payments too, that way we can trace these payments on the Blockchain to see where exactly they ended up. Mark continued to take payments for coins yet he has not spent that money anywhere as he did not manufacture the coins. Lets try and find where he channelled these funds too so we can inform the liquidators and courts.
Re: Coinographic - DO NOT BUY! A warning to the community!
I already commenced legal proceedings against Coinographic last week, he is aware of this. The company is yet in liquidation, no liquidator has been appointment yet according to my solictor.
Refund Owed
He owes me 5.46BTC and 729LTC.
Mark has the following coins in stock and I have emails confirming this, he was trying to get Charlie to buy some coins recently and I am not sure if this went through:
45 bull coins
29 Chicken coins
38 LA coins
352 1 LTC coins
If anyone would like Marks personal details please PM me. I will be back in the UK next month to deal with this and to visit Mark in person to discuss this matter further, if anyone wishes me to take on collection of their debt please PM me.
Please read here: https://www.gov.uk/liquidate-your-company
'You can be banned from being a director for 2 to 15 years or prosecuted if the liquidator decides your conduct was unfit.'
Once I estbablish who the appointment liquidator is, I will post their details here. As you can see above, if the liquidator decides Marks conduct was unfit he will be banned from being a director for 2-15 years. I suggest when I post these details that everyone involved contact the liquidator and explain why Marks conduct was definately unfit and perhaps fraudulent.
Mark is currently the director of this company, http://www.visualsin.co.uk/, company reg: 8709006 which today is showing as CLOSED FOR BUSINESS.
I will update this thread when I have further information. I suggest everyone report this to COMPANIES HOUSE as a 'fraud' to ensure that they are aware of the practices of Coinographic and that they still have stock in hand. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reporting-fraud-about-a-company-to-companies-house, they will work with the liquidators and its likely Mark will not tell the truth to the liquidation team
The Company Investigations team within The Insolvency Service has the power to investigate limited companies where information received suggests corporate abuse, such as:
serious misconduct
fraud or scams
sharp practice in the way a company operates
Also to complain to the INSOLVENCY SERVICE: https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company
Refund Owed
He owes me 5.46BTC and 729LTC.
Mark has the following coins in stock and I have emails confirming this, he was trying to get Charlie to buy some coins recently and I am not sure if this went through:
45 bull coins
29 Chicken coins
38 LA coins
352 1 LTC coins
If anyone would like Marks personal details please PM me. I will be back in the UK next month to deal with this and to visit Mark in person to discuss this matter further, if anyone wishes me to take on collection of their debt please PM me.
Please read here: https://www.gov.uk/liquidate-your-company
'You can be banned from being a director for 2 to 15 years or prosecuted if the liquidator decides your conduct was unfit.'
Once I estbablish who the appointment liquidator is, I will post their details here. As you can see above, if the liquidator decides Marks conduct was unfit he will be banned from being a director for 2-15 years. I suggest when I post these details that everyone involved contact the liquidator and explain why Marks conduct was definately unfit and perhaps fraudulent.
Mark is currently the director of this company, http://www.visualsin.co.uk/, company reg: 8709006 which today is showing as CLOSED FOR BUSINESS.
I will update this thread when I have further information. I suggest everyone report this to COMPANIES HOUSE as a 'fraud' to ensure that they are aware of the practices of Coinographic and that they still have stock in hand. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reporting-fraud-about-a-company-to-companies-house, they will work with the liquidators and its likely Mark will not tell the truth to the liquidation team
The Company Investigations team within The Insolvency Service has the power to investigate limited companies where information received suggests corporate abuse, such as:
serious misconduct
fraud or scams
sharp practice in the way a company operates
Also to complain to the INSOLVENCY SERVICE: https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company
Thanks for all your responses and PM's - the cases will be manufactured after the TET holidays, so I will update you all in a few weeks and announce the winner of the free case:) 
Many thanks to those who have voted and commented. With it being TET (Chinese New Year) in Vietnam, I do not think the mockup will be finished for another 10 days but lets see.
I will also look at getting a mockup done of an iphone 6 case to see how it looks.
Thanks for all your support and I will reply to all PM's today.
I will also look at getting a mockup done of an iphone 6 case to see how it looks.
Thanks for all your support and I will reply to all PM's today.
Thanks for those who have voted so far, I should be able to have a selection of sizes made. I will keep this post updated when I get the sample back.
The sample will be sent to someone for free on condition they do a review on here.
The sample will be sent to someone for free on condition they do a review on here.
Hi,
Looking to have some custom ipad cases handmade using high quality leather.
Just trying to gauge which ipads are the most popular.
Thanks
SaigonSmokes
They will look something like this with some nice Bitcoin themed designs, I should have a sample to post by next week, which will also be put up as a prize on here so if you want to be put in the draw for the first case that is made vote above and comment below, the sample size will be for an ipad mini and the winner will be chosen using random.org:
Looking to have some custom ipad cases handmade using high quality leather.
Just trying to gauge which ipads are the most popular.
Thanks
SaigonSmokes
They will look something like this with some nice Bitcoin themed designs, I should have a sample to post by next week, which will also be put up as a prize on here so if you want to be put in the draw for the first case that is made vote above and comment below, the sample size will be for an ipad mini and the winner will be chosen using random.org:
Thank you to everyone who has filled out the forms so far. We are reviewing each request as we speak. If you filled out the form before this message, you will hear from us before the close of play on Tuesday
Regards
Should the Winner of competition fill a form?Regards
None of you are getting paid.
To all competition prize winners;
Due to the situation with the company and the fact we will not be manufacturing the bitcoin collection we will be unable to pay the prizes promised. Once we have dealt with our other outstanding issues and made things right with our customers, we will re-visit the situation and look at the possibilities of what can be done to rectify this situation.
Due to the situation with the company and the fact we will not be manufacturing the bitcoin collection we will be unable to pay the prizes promised. Once we have dealt with our other outstanding issues and made things right with our customers, we will re-visit the situation and look at the possibilities of what can be done to rectify this situation.
That pretty much says it. They will not honor their word.
Not sure what makes some think they will honor all refunds.
re·fund1
verb
rəˈfənd,ˈrēˌfənd/
1.
pay back (money), typically to a customer who is not satisfied with goods or services bought.
noun
noun: refund; plural noun: refunds
ˈrēˌfənd/
1.
a repayment of a sum of money, typically to a dissatisfied customer.
Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Waiting..... 
I hope you are not condoning their lying and "fuck ups".
In all seriousness Saigon I hope you get all of your coins you ordered or are refunded fully. That is what I consider most I important. Customers being made whole.
I hope you are not condoning their lying and "fuck ups".
In all seriousness Saigon I hope you get all of your coins you ordered or are refunded fully. That is what I consider most I important. Customers being made whole.
I am certainly not condoning their lying in any way, shape or form but fuck ups - sometimes we don't act in the right way when under pressure and I hope they get through this by making everyone whole.
Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Just to be clear if Coinographic had all of the funds to refund customers, they wouldn't need 90 days to repay or even 30 days.
@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.
Something to think about when concerning your money.
The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.
If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....
@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.
Something to think about when concerning your money.
The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.
If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....
I do not want a public dialogue regarding monies that are owed - its between Coinographic and I to work out. At no point has CG said some people will get more or less than others. Has it not crossed your mind that CG may need to use their own monthly 'wages' from other business or obtain finance to refund customers - this can reasonably take a few months. Jesus, give the guy a break - he is trying to put right his mistakes and the failings in his business.
That is right, it is between the two of you. But I suspect this is not the case for every customer. Every customer who is owed funds/money etc has been asked to submit a form - if they don't do that then that is there issue
He has said a lot of things too...and Look at where we are now.
AgreedYes he should get a break given he is in debt to his customers who sent him funds months ago for coins he has not shipped or not funded or not created.I am one of those customers, owed hundreds of LTC and many BTC - I am giving him time to put this right. I don't expect the $$$ value of the coins at the time I paid at the time, just the LTC/BTC i sent
Yes we should all give the guy a break even though he has been dishonest to his very customers and design contest winners.
He could easily tell everyone that there is no money and the business is finished and that no one is getting anything, he has not done that so yes I am giving him a break - Having been in the situation in the past where a business of mine went 'bust' many years ago, costing me >$100k, I know exactly how he is feeling, the time, effort, money that has no doubt gone into CG over the last year to then have the realisation that things have fucked up.
You do everything you can to keep the business going and frequently make decisions that are most definately not the right ones, lie to people (in my case banks/creditors) in the hope that things will work out. I am sure CG know they fucked up by doing certain things but I am also sure that Mark will pay his debts, however as I found out money doesn't grow on trees and it takes time to raise funds to do so
I am very curious what their current stock is. The 25 Bull and the 10 Chickun show 400+ coins available to order. Unsure how many they have in stock. Let shops its many...
I'm not exactly sure how much worth these coins have beyond the silver itself since this will always drag a shady story behind....
With silver spot being at $18 and given that it comes with the boxes etc I assume I'd be willing to accept to refund at $25/oz without pursuing legal action.
I'm not exactly sure how much worth these coins have beyond the silver itself since this will always drag a shady story behind....
With silver spot being at $18 and given that it comes with the boxes etc I assume I'd be willing to accept to refund at $25/oz without pursuing legal action.
Also their total list of liabilities. The creditors should have the assets split between then in the ratio of their outstanding value. We can't have it as first come first served, and last in the queue getting nothing
The value placed on the stock items will also be key
What I am not clear on is if this is a full repayment, just in kind rather than as ordered, or partial payment
Strangely with the global nature of sales. Coinigraphic will also need to take shipping costs into account
I need to check all of my coingraphic coins to check they were all funded as advised before the stampede starts
Looks like if you pre-ordered a physical BITCOIN you are entitled to a FULL REFUND...but it may take up to 90 days
2) Negotiate a payment plan with us so we can refund the amount of digital currency that you paid for your coins. As with the coin funding, these payments will be coming from personal funds and as such it could take as long as 90 days for you to receive a full refund. We do propose your refund be paid to you in three installments, with the first installment due to you within 30 days of your request.
I do not want a public dialogue regarding monies that are owed - its between Coinographic and I to work out. At no point has CG said some people will get more or less than others. Has it not crossed your mind that CG may need to use their own monthly 'wages' from other business or obtain finance to refund customers - this can reasonably take a few months. Jesus, give the guy a break - he is trying to put right his mistakes and the failings in his business.
Seriously Smoothie, if you spent as much time focussing on your personal business you would make a lot more sales. I for one refuse to buy any further coins of yours as a) they are not that high quality compared to others on the market and b) your whole attitude on these forums just stinks.
Businesses do not always work out as we plan - CG have made mistakes here, but let him put them right before attacking him constantly.
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Just to be clear if Coinographic had all of the funds to refund customers, they wouldn't need 90 days to repay or even 30 days.
@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.
Something to think about when concerning your money.
The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.
If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....
@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.
Something to think about when concerning your money.
The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.
If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....
I do not want a public dialogue regarding monies that are owed - its between Coinographic and I to work out. At no point has CG said some people will get more or less than others. Has it not crossed your mind that CG may need to use their own monthly 'wages' from other business or obtain finance to refund customers - this can reasonably take a few months. Jesus, give the guy a break - he is trying to put right his mistakes and the failings in his business.
On January 4th the 25 LTC Bull coin was "25 LTC coins for only 0.60 BTC", now it's suddenly costs 1.1 BTC =(
Hm, other "at cost" prices you gave in early December seem to correlate with what you have on the website right now (about 250 USD per LTC Bull coin).
Thanks, for holding the promised timeline! Gives me a little confidence back!
@coinographic, would be appreciated if you could hand those invoices to @smoothie, just to double check that everything is happening as advertised.
Sorry but smoothie is one person i will not be dealing with in anyway
I would be happy to view these and confirm the costs or alternatively Coinographic could pass them to TheMage:
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