blah blah blah .... yeah yeah yeah ... whatever. Keep posting your hateful rhetoric designed to create fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) in actual community members.

We have already stated that we need to fix the bugs that Andrey has put in the code. Debugging code is not a fast process to begin with, especially when the bugs did not show up during the private or public testing. Also keep in mind that the progress has been further delayed by the tech team's need to shift focus to address other issues as needed, like the DDoS attacks that have occurred.

List of Andrey's duplicate accounts cheer-leading on his behalf.
- Hastaguy
- E:
- Selicio
- never1equals1
- Mighty Silverback
- Mergatroid
- killer-killer


Here we go again with more stupid claims, I mean you literally cant fix stupid.

HEX raised how much? Tell me that please.

What did Hex accomplish? A whitepaper at best.

How many products has Energi created and how much NRG was airdropped for users? Do you know? Nope. $6.5 Mil given back to community via airdrop and you come here with your little brain saying check out Hex.

Maybe join Hex team as its suited for your personality lol

A seemingly interesting discussion.

However, when you finally see that one of the commentators is not even able to open the official site and check how many technical team members there are, you realize that such a person should not be taken seriously because he or she has a problem processing even this simple information. Tragicomedy. 

i don't see programmers active in the project, in the github itself most commits are made by two people (one now) does the project really use the treasure for maintenance? because honestly noting that you are paying 50k for hacker information, why not hire professionals in the area to correct problems?

Lmao! Sounds like you ran out things to FUD about, this is what all the FUD has boiled down to?
You don't like market-making, OK bud. There are market making coins on the exchanges too, and there are numerous market makers unaffiliated with us! HELLO! Market-makers can continue to serve users if deposits/withdrawals are closed while maintenance is happening! Again, any NORMAL user appreciates this!

50% WHAT? Alright I'm done here, now it’s just grasping for straws.

It should now be abundantly clear to everyone, that there was intention of legitimate concern about Energi here, only trying to find anything to attack -- which the accusations fell flat on their face.

Once again you are spreading FUD.
Any freeze request FROM ANYONE will behave the same way and freeze movement of the coins. If there are ever more "no" votes to the proposal, the coins can move freely to prevent abuse of the system. And that is the same for every freeze request that has transpired in Energi. I have no special power or enhanced ability to freeze coins as you have falsely claimed numerous times.

I really have no idea about those deposits, I think the answer there is: You're just grasping for anything to attack. As far as I know we had no timings of coins sent before the migration or before deposits closed. You already falsely accused me of selling funds which isn't so!

And I know why this is so hard for you, Energi still has market-making, GOD FORBID! You know, the service every asks for and needs in a market? Again you don't care about that, just looking any BS avenue to attack!

And by the way, Energi is NOT a security, that's one of the reasons we didn't do an ICO! If you think Energi is a security, you better think every damn ICO or project that raised funds is a security first. And frankly I don't really care if you think that or not, I designed Energi intentionally as a SELF-SUFFICIENT system, that does NOT require me to function, which can be replicated (and I hope it is, for humanity!)


In regard to karma, Sweet! Thank you, I welcome my karma! I have helped SO MANY people. If you weren't blind, you might recognize some of the good I have done already. I too wish you your karma, to come to you quickly. Good luck

You are contradicting yourself. You say that exchanges do not want to open deposits, because they are afraid that Tommy can freeze their wallets. And at the same time, you claim that they accept deposits from the ENERGI team, which can freeze their wallets.

They also explained the closing of deposits. Their network is not yet stable enough and there are breaks in the chain. But they are working hard on it.

Regarding deposits, here is one potential issue that could occur due to a chain split. Say you sent some NRG to the exchange and you were both off chain. The exchange accepts the deposit and you trade for a different coin/token then withdraw. After that, you both realize that your transaction wasn’t valid. Since you have already withdrawn the new coin/token, the exchange cannot undo this and because the original transaction was off chain, they don’t get the NRG you sent (you may be good about it and resend but not everyone would). Now the exchange is out those funds with no way to recover them. Multiply this by however many people do their deposits at this time and it could be a massive problem. Setting an arbitrary time for confirmations is not really a solution to this because how do you determine how long it will take for the exchange to realize they are off chain?
With withdrawing, everything is in the exchanges system so if you are both off chain, the exchange still has this information saved and can process the transaction again once they are back on chain.

Selicio;

I am still not sure why you are choosing to post inaccurate and speculative information?

90% of the masternode network owned by NRG?   speculative on your part

When deposits open Kucoin will amass over 1,000,000 NRG in a few months?  This is actually unknown and again speculative on your part and now saying that the address would be blacklisted sounds a little crazy in itself.  

The https://medium.com/energi/how-were-putting-security-at-the-heart-of-energi-6c6dd463a818  explains why an address gets blacklisted, so with your logic, you are implying something about Kucoin that is not a fact.

At this point, your agenda is clearly personally motivated and not for the good of the Energi community.

Wow man, take off your tin-foil cap! Where is all this hatred of TommyWorldPower coming from? Are you Andrey? You sound like him. This looks like just another Andrey attempt to create problems for Tommy and the team. Face it, you got fired. Be a man, suck it up and move on. Stop throwing these childish temper tantrums and stop trying to make good people who are doing good things look bad. You’re not fooling anyone.

It has been posted a few times in this thread and shared on our other platforms when it was published originally, but I'll post the link and a brief explanation again.

The EBI team identifies threats and only threats to the community/network are blacklisted and THEN masternodes decide three options listed in the article.
Once the voting deadline passes, there’s a final vote to decide what to do with the frozen funds. There are a few options:
A) Freeze for a more extended period.
B) Drain the wallet and return the NRG to their rightful owner(s), i.e. a victim in a case of a hack or to an exchange.
C) Revoke, which lifts the blacklist and unfreezes the coins.

https://medium.com/energi/how-were-putting-security-at-the-heart-of-energi-6c6dd463a818

ominous.shark;

Hello and thank you for your comments.  I do believe you are correct in your statement that Blandin33 was referring to deposits being closed on exchanges, but I did not want to assume anything, as that is how one gets in trouble is by assuming.  

The Medium article you pointed out does mention the security, and stability of our network which is an important criteria when considering opening deposits.  There is further reference in the article as well about the scammer who attempted to steal 200k NRG from our community members  This is an item worth mentioning again for anyone who has not yet seen it.

During the migration to Gen 3, scammers attempted to steal over 200,000 NRG from our community. This would be catastrophic not only for the victims, but for everyone in the Energi ecosystem who would have suffered from major market dumping of these illicit gains.

Personally for this reason alone, I am glad that deposits are closed.  If I was one of our community members who was violated by the scammer,  I would not want them to benefit by being able to sell the stolen coins on the exchange.  For so many of our community members, any amount of Energi, no matter the value, can be life changing for them.

The reason why deposits are closed, does not affect anyone from withdrawing from exchanges - they are free to do so if they like.

As for the "accusations" being tossed around by some, that the Team is keeping deposits closed to manipulate the price - if I personally step back and look at it, it seems like just another far fetched accusation by some. The Team has stipulated  many times, and also in the medium article,  the reasons for them being closed, security, and stability of our network.  

 
I will post the article here for anyone who may want to take a few moments to read it again or for the first time.


https://medium.com/energi/important-update-exchange-deposits-8aad7a120b3e

blandin33 - Please take a moment to read as I am responding to you as to why deposits are closed-  The question has been answered many times- it is for the security and stability of the network.  Please try to be patient.


 

Hastaguy; I don't want to get in the middle of your chat here, but, can you let other people who may want to communicate and post here about Energi do so without having to fend off your accusations.  I appreciate that you are passionate, but please lets respect others who may want to post as well.  I will thank you in advance for your co-operation.