I'd feel bad to recommend any exchanges after talking bad about others. That might seem like I have some vested interest or something. I just don't like exchanges faking volume. It results in higher average buy prices, lower average sell prices (mainly for people new to the exchange), it distorts the exchange rankings (drawing newbies to these exchanges where they don't really have the reported liquidity ) and gives crypto overall a bad reputation.

So I just advise against using exchanges I know are faking volume. Unfortunately there is a lot of them listed on Coinmarketcap and Coingecko alike. qBTC also falls into that category by the way.

Other than that feel free to trade anywhere you like unless you notice something fishy yourself - it's not like I know all the exchanges where Grin is listed

What do you mean by "not on this occasion" and "Coingecko doesn't think so"?

Looking at any chart on Hotbit (also the Grin ones) it's pretty obvious. All volume candles are the same regardless of daytime or price action. It also has that typical "executed orders appearing out of nowhere" syndrome.

Bitforex is one of those exchanges that fake volume. It's visible in some charts like the one of Platincoin (just randomly looked one up).

Of course that's the most amateurish way to fake volume and it's not visible in other charts like that but please don't support exchanges doing this.

I made it my rule to never use exchanges that fake volume or have done so in the past (and may just hide it better now). This damages everyone - the users, other exchanges and the community as a whole.

Edit: Hotbit is faking volume even more blatantly than Bitforex. Please.

My thinking is that there would be a few infratstructures that win big with the majority failing. So the failing is calculated in. The bet is basically that one or 2 of these will be huge by 2025 which would be enough.

The past year has been very stressful for me. While I managed to preserve most of the profits made in the bull run it required a lot of attention to do so.


Ethereum is definitely one of the platforms that have the least risk to fail. On the other hand it also has a much bigger valuation than other infrastructures which leaves less room for growth.

So the reason for leaving out Ethereum is twofold:
1. The Risk/Reward ratio for Ethereum is worse than the other projects on the list (this is influenced by subjectivity of course)
2. To even reach only the 100k target I would need to put so much money in ETH that there is not enough money left to diversify according to the risk involved.

I truly believe that there will be at least 3 infrastructures in 2025 that are worth 100 billion$+. So I can either bet it's Ethereum and then bet a little bit on others. Or I can spread the bet between a lot of currencies leaving out Ethereum - having a higher chance of hitting a winner and thus reaching my goal.

So around a month ago I decided I want to become a millionaire by 2025 or at least buy a home. I'll turn 30 then.

In contrast to some others here I was able to survive the bear market (still in profit despite entering the market a few days before BTC made the 5k$ ATH).

With the money that I have now I want the highest chance of becoming wealthy by the age of 30 without needing to continue monitoring my portfolio all the time. This is the source of the idea to make this list.

This list only contains infrastructure projects. I know the STO thingy is getting hyped right now but honestly - I don't think these projects can provide real value for their tokens just by helping companies to STO. In my opinion the real money in that space is going to be made in securities exchanges (which I'm planning on getting into during the next year with fresh money I have to work for).

Anyway, I decided to go with infrastructure because I think that 100 billion USD is a good and achievable target for those 3-4 that win the race in the end. This provides plenty of return opportunity. So I did a lot of research on which coins provide the best risk reward in different target categories.

I grouped the projects in the different categories of "have 100k$ to buy a home" and "be a millionaire" by 2025. Amounts are based on the projects respective target and my target wealth. I gave each project a risk/reward score based on their history and their price in relation to their total supply (not circulating since it's long term holds). Then I started adding to the list from the highest score until I ran out of money to put in. This is the result.

Target -> have 100k$ to buy a home:

- 1500 Waves for 4.6k$
- 1500 QTum for 3.2k $
- 1000 EOS for 2.6k$
- 30k ADA for 1.2k $
- 2.8k IOTA for 1k$
- 100 NEO for 750$
- 1600 ICX for 380$
- 34 Elastos für 92$


Target -> be a millionaire:
- 1200 Komodo for 940$
- 1400 Ark for 540$
- 30k Hycon für 450$
- 1000 NULS for 390$
- 2700 Aion for 390$
- 3k Credits for 280$
- 20k Ruff for 160$
- 15k Fantom for 100$
- 100k YEED for 45$
- 10k Seele for 35$

Together with the other coins I'm holding - which are all Moonshots too (10k KCS, 30k Nexo, 20k CSNO, 1700 CHX) this portfolio is currently worth around 28k$.

Some projects (like Quarkchain) are simply too expensive right now to be in the moonshot category but way too underdeveloped to make in in the 100k category. Others are not released yet. I planning on adding Dusk Network as well as Hashgraph depending on their prices when they hit the exchanges.

What to you think about this list. Is there anything else that should definitely be on a list like this in your opinion?

Man man, was für ne Überschrift^^

Empfehle den Reddit Thread zu lesen. Da wird dann schnell klar, dass Vitalik nur teilen einer Kritik zustimmt und ganz sicher nicht denkt, dass ETH komplett kollabiert

EIP 960 (Ethereum Improvement Proposal) beschäftigt sich damit, den Supply von ETh bei 120.204.432 (dem doppelten der ICO ETH) zu cappen. Soll dann mit Einführung von Casper gemacht werden.

Aber selbst wenn nicht. Solange der Mining Reward nicht steigt, werden neu geminete ETH im Verhältnis zum Total Supply ja kleiner. Die Inflation damit auch, entsprechend wäre der Einfluss, den das Mining hat auf Dauer sowieso begrenzt.

Ich denke, man sollte aufhören für jeden neuen Drop nach Gründen zu suchen. Wir befinden uns in einem spekulativen Markt. Wenn der Preis runtergeht, heißt das ganz einfach, dass mehr verkauft wird. Die Grundlagen, auf denen der wahre "Wert" der Coins fußt, ändern sich nicht so dramatisch von Tag auf Tag.

Der eigentliche Wert von Ether liegt einzig und allein in der Benutzung als "Gas". Alles was darüber hinausgeht ist Spekulation.

Vitalik hat außerdem sein Statement ja relativiert. Das war eine Zustimmung in Anführungsstrichen.

Die großen ICOs haben in den letzten Monaten keine Ether verkauft. Dazu als Referenz das hier:
https://diar.co/ico-treasury-balances/

Man sieht, dass der größte Teil des Verkaufens im April schon vorbei war (bis dahin 5 Millionen verkaufte Ether) und seither weit weniger verkauft wurden.

Not neccessarily. An example would be the constellationlabs.io ICO.

There is going to be no bonus in the public sale. But there was a round of presale (I don't have any details of that) and there is currently running private presale 2 (25% discount, 100k$ minimum investment) and presale 3 (15% discount, 25k$ minimum investment).

What they do is they buy into the early rounds with a lot of money and then resell to other people while keeping a part of the bonus.

After multiple resellers the offer I saw was 5% bonus in the aforementioned telegram channel. It's still a bonus on what the public sale will be.

What I wanna do is of course get into contact with the first resellers in order to be able to purchase at the highest possible bonus amount. But the managers of that telegram channel obviously don't want to give away from whom they are buying.

All info I got from them was they purchase the tokens for constellationlabs.io from a "company". But they don't only have that contact - their different offers come from differen contacts they have.

So there's obviously an industry behind this "buy in private presale and then resell"-stuff.

Hoping someone has some more info.

Hi,

I recently stumbled upon a telegram channel in which deals for ICOs were offered that were new / not known / not announced yet. These offers were always accompanied by bonuses that were not publicly available.

Today I learned that the managers of that group purchase these tokens not directly from these ICOs but from other resellers (who have enough money to buy into private presales).

So I figured if you wanna get the highest possible bonus it would be best to buy from the original resellers instead of the resellers of the resellers

Do you know any companies that purchase tokens and resell them (keeping some of the Bonus - that's their profit)?

Which ones. I've been trying to find them via google  but didn't really come up with any results.

Can't believe I'm actually replying to this. Well...

Fact 1: So what? Didn't you mix up years when talking to people at some point in your life?

Fact 2: Hilarious. A little research would've done wonders. Why don't you get the idea that the dude in the video you post is the actual retard? Average electricity price in Austria is (depending on region) 18-22.9 cents / kwH. Get that? Yes that is a lot more than you think it is. Over in Germany it's even more expensive!

Fact 3: Again, what are you trying to tell anyone with this. They are not the ones copying anything. If at all this is a bad sign for that swiss hydrominer thing. You don't go to war with everyone who copycats you. If you do that you're going to drown. You go to war with people who try to take your business.

I seriously don't get your problem.

You are just looking for proof for nothing. There is videos out there where people physically went to their mining farms. Shouldn't that be proof enough?

I'm not invested in H20 personally but connected to the project financially otherwise. That's why I looked here. Was baffled at how you have taken over this thread with your nonsense.

I mean really. You literally wrote "WHY ARE THEY CALCULATING IN CENTS? SHOULDN'T THEY BE CALCULATING IN EUROS???".

How desparete can you be to dig up something.

Just read through all of Glebs posts.

Well this is what happens when someone with no brain and education(not that uncommon in the US) is suspicious of something. They'll go a long way to prove they're right.

How do you expect someone to give any accurate overview on anything who doesn't even realize that if a European is talking about cents - he's probably not talking about USD.

Typical US American arrogance.

WE HAVE CENTS! SO NO ONE ELSE HAS CENTS OBVIOUSLY. BEST COUNTRY EVER! LETS VOTE FOR THE DUMBEST PERSON IN HISTORY TO BECOME OUR LEADER.

lol

Hi,

before I join the KYC I would like to ask something since the whitepaper is not released yet.

What's the max / min amount during presale?

Soft and Hardcap?

Also - the telegram link on the website doesn't work.

Is there any information on when the first shares with token holders will happen?

The price in private sale was 0.5$.

Wait, why would a scammer send out Tokens to people. How does that help him make money? I'm not even interested in this ICO.

Like I received 1000 ICX (that show up on Etherdelta as in my wallet so it's the traded one there). There's buy orders for it on ED. So I can just go and sell them.

Then I made free money. Not the one who sent me the tokens?

Well, this looked interesting at first. But their schedule is really rushed combined with a very high cap. So I got curious - like this no one is going to know about it fast enough to provide enough interested investors - and no due dilligence report can come out before that juicy Presale period is over.

So what do I think? Most important - the team.

6 people to manage 30 million. Ok.

1st of them (the commander) has 2 articles he's written as a reference + a twitter link that does not work.
2nd of them has only their parent company (which hasn't been active for too long) as reference.
3rd of them has a twitter and a linked in page. Neither Astronaut nor Picolo research is mentioned anywhere there.
4th one has one linked in page - again Picolo/Astronaut nowhere to be mentioned
5th one again only picolo as reference
6th one finally a twitter account that actually mentions astronaut. And a FB account that has limited access.

Welp.

The concept can be as interesting as it wants. You are not going to get me to invest in this when the team is split in

a) no real reference
b) loaded with so many projects that they don't even bother to mention this one on there profiles

Also, wthe "commander" has written 2 articles on 2 different sites in his lifetime and his only other reference is a twitter link that doesn't work. If that is the most well documented team member.

Well then reading that whitepaper was a waste of time. You guys can do this without me.

Peace and out.

(Edit: I mean come on, I can write to articles on medium, then go ahead and collect 30 million from people or what? I'm sure I'd be making a positive ROI with your investment too in this market.)

As I said in that post, it's a transitional solution. Which is not interesting to me as a pure long termer. It's possible (not a sure thing) payment volume shifts to cards, but it will then eventually shift out of cards leaving TenX, Monaco and the like to go bust.

Personally I will not invest in any crypto card tokens. Never.

Why? Because I am a long term only investor.

Crypto Credit Cards might help to get mass adoption in crypto -  but only as a transitional solution.

Cards are outdated. In Asia, many regions even jumped the card technology and went directly to mobile payments with things they carry around anyway - mobilephones, smart watches etc.. In other regions the general direction payments are heading is also not cards. Also, credit cards negate the actual intention of crypto currencies - in particular privacy and the removal of the need for a middle man.

The real winners are going to be

a) cryptos with instant transactions themselves
b) multifunctional wallets

The winners might be different from a) to b) in different regions or a combination of both.

So ask yourself this:

If you're in the supermarket and want to pay your bread and butter. You have to choice to pay with your credit card (and pay the fees) or to pay with btc, dash or whatever the currency is you're holding directly.

What option will you choose? I don't think that will be the credit card.

In a world where blockchain technology has reached mass adoption - I don't think there is any real use for credit cards.

Wow those poor guys investing 3-4 Ether. There's even some that invest between 4 and 5 Ether. Too much money in the pocket but not enough brain to read.