It sounds like you don't understand the market you are in.

Here's a ChipMixer deposit of 1,000 BTC I am aware of simply because we were discussing it an another thread: https://mempool.space/tx/1e7c498469369e90dfdd0c8258c6aa5325661553f441a2c6897d93b210f8ef67. There are plenty more such examples.

Further, a balance of 20 BTC does not let you mix anywhere close to 20 BTC. Since we know now that you supposedly have a balance of 20 BTC, if someone were to deposit say 5 BTC to your mixer, then there is a significant chance that their withdrawal would be easily linked to their deposit due simply to matching the size of the inputs and outputs. I would not even be comfortable mixing 1 BTC on a mixer with only 20 BTC being mixed, which is hardly "unlimited".

Lie. You claimed you were accepting unlimited amount of BTC mixing which later you changed as 20 BTC. Don't you think this two has a huge difference? This is a lie which once again proves that you are not trustworthy.

Reminds me of AtobMixer..



I liked that.. Brutal honesty!


If one wanted to start a mixer successfully one should start from a point of absolute honesty, be humble and willing to accept critique, try to understand that they do look risky and why they look risky..

“We are a new mixer, try us out, start small, remember us and check back in a year we will still be here.
We take X% fees because we aren’t doing this for free..
If you screw up and loose your coins in our service and it’s your fault we’re charging you 5% with a 0.01BTC minimum to fix it because we aren’t doing that for free either..
We are doing this in the hopes of becoming a profitable business (plan, examples)
Don’t trust just one mixer to clean your coins, use multiple..
Hide your inputs from CM and hide your outputs from us! Or vice versa..”

Much better!

Not “we have 50 BTC but can’t sign for it and I drive a $150k car (I totally didn’t buy from scamming) and are the most trusted in the internet even though we haven’t processed a single transaction yet”…

Poor man I have a private yacht.
35M length, nautro's swan shipyard, build and refit 2015. Cost $14,100,000. do you think anyone care to hear that?

A little education may help. Don't claim of something you know where clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.

You really do not have idea how this forum works. If you had then you would not tell anything about swapping trust comments we know it as feedback.

You are a brand new account and your opinion does not weight any value unless you prove it worth to listen. These users have years of experience and members admire them. Without clearing all doubts you can not make a name for your business because it has came this far.

In my opinion, you can have the best intentions and your business can be completely legitimate and honest, but the way you treat other members who have expressed their doubts, some of which are valid, is completely unacceptable from a business perspective. The first thing you should do is hire a community manager and let someone else handle that part of the work, since you don't seem to have the stomach for it. You may have a good, genuine service, but if you're marketing it poorly, or telling your potential customers a bunch of half-truths, they will get the wrong impression.

The second thing you should do is find out what the people who are venting about your business are trying to tell you. Are they expressing concerns that could be addressed? Are they asking for more information on the subject that you haven't provided? Then take those concerns seriously and address them. It's one thing to shut them down and say that you don't care what they have to say; it's quite another to listen carefully to their suggestions and address their concerns.

@Shaker_finance
Since you're already responding to "some" of the issues/problems, it'd be nice to see an in-depth explanation as to why do you think signing a message isn't really that safe?
^{- If there's "really" a vulnerability, we can use your post to warn other users in threads "like this"!}

• Quote from: Shaker_finance on July 07, 2022, 08:08:17 PM
  Sgning is not safe,
  
  Quote from: Shaker_finance on July 12, 2022, 01:12:47 AM
  signing is not safe that's correct,
  
  Quote from: Shaker_finance on Today at 03:57:01 PM
  So when you sign you can't take those 20 BTC ?? WTF is this bullshit you are writing. You may sign and then easily take those 20 BTC same way.
  

To lie is to say something false knowing it to be false. What you call marketing is lying.

Answer me one thing.

Why should we believe that your mixing service is "safe"?

Is it marketing too? The word is next to "trusted".

I had your back but with only two. Don't ask me the reason 🤣

Green trusted user vouching for shady site
The answer is very simple. If someone is sure about the site is 100% shady then they should not vouch for it. I don't think Green trusted or no trusted user matters at all.

Shaker_finance, you need a professional who can handle your PR. The temperament you are showing is not good for your business or safe to say for any business. Assuming your are not shady but your attitude is not helping.

If I were you I would edit the Ann thread and tell the campaign manager to do it too, as you just admitted you lied, which doesn't go very well for your reputation.

You can't prove ownership of 20 BTC that probably don't even exist, and it's far from unlimited amount, but I guess you need to finish math class in school for that.
Important thing to mention here is that you changed that amount after I asked several uncomfortable questions about that.

Here is archived post:
https://ninjastic.space/post/60503669

And this ladies ang gentleman is behavior of a grown man and ''trusted'' mixer businessman  

I am not going to reply anymore to your messages, and I have you on ignore.
Good luck.

Obviously they're not going to say they're not trusted and unsafe, but clearly they're not trusted. I'd expect a campaign manager to see through that, instead of copying the claim.

In my book, it takes a lot more than getting paid to endorse a company.

I stand by my words.
You are a LIAR, and everyone can see your speculations and insults for us 1$ Chipmixer members, that was talking about us looking from above like we are some gipsy beggars.
If you properly did some research you could see that Chipmixers paid much more for their years long campaign, and they have been much more open than you.

Let me conclude with claims I made in your topic:

1. Unlimited amount of coins ✔️  (letter changed partially)
2. Exploit forum link posted ✔️ (later removed)
3. 1$ lie ✔️ (Chipmixer campaign)

I really don't know why you are again involving Royse777 in this story, when other people also gave him positive feedback recently, like Hhampuz for example and one more manager...


I didn't want to give any attention and feedback to Shaker Finance, but after doing some research and asking simple questions, they started with insults.
Just to make it clear, I am not affected at all with words coming from other people, but I made legitimate questions, suggestion and his answer was insults.
This is a clear red flag for me so I decided to give them temporary red flag as a warning to newbies to be careful with this website.
I never said they are 100% scam, but they are high risk and everyone should be careful using this website for mixing coins.
I am thinking of starting new topic dedicated for Shaker Finance, when I collect more information.

You are being a bit of hypocrite here because you recently gave Royse777 a negative feedback intentionally without having any proof, and claiming he didn't ''clean his name''.
So if someone calls you a piece of shit and stupid retard that is not reason to think that some website is potential scam, but when you are constantly beating the dead horse with Royse, you can give him negative feedback... that is your logic.

To be fair, your responses to others have probably not helped your situation. This is not how a professional would want to act if they expect to be in business for a longtime.

I don't think both case of Royse777 and Gianluca95 is same. Gianluca95 is only working as campaign manager though some things could be different and they must step up on such an issue. Gianluca95 should look at this case and decide whether or not to run the campaign anymore.

I believe it too. This deserves a warning. Shaker Finance looked shady from the very beginning of their journey here. As I mentioned earlier, they are nowhere near to a professional business which the community must know to avoid potential risk. Have added neutral feedback too.

You are open for questions. Okay.
Let me start from the begining.
Do you have enough fund to allow people mix 20 BTC? Please be straight forward on your answer. Also, if you have 20 BTC, how do people know that? How do they trust you?

All these questions are toxic to the people who are not planning to operate the business actually. I really hope that you are here with business purpose, not for scam but I doubt that since you are not behaving/acting in a way which shows some trustworthiness.

Before starting a business, you should learn to be professional. I have told you that you have few spelling mistakes in the website, there are still few mistakes I can see.
You could provide a signed message from an address which have the balance of maximum amount allowed for mixing in your website. In this way, you could increase the trustworthiness. You are not the first mixer who denied to sign a message, you are not the first mixer which have been asked to sign a message. I have seen other mixing threads where community asked for signed message and they provide signed message. This mixer still exists for years and have no bad reputation.

You didn’t follow anything, nor you have behaved professionally with forum user.
I don't think your mixer is a good one, nor would I recommend to anyone to use this.