If I am reading this right SPTech gave him 9 more SP30's As compensation?

I appreciate your apology.

I knew something was wrong based on where I am in the order chain and that so many have at least received the compensation email. I trust that you will now ship the miner ASAP? Given that you have mistakenly not shipped my order in it's rightful position in the queue.

I await tracking information.

EDIT: And possibly some extra comp given the time I have lost mining ... wishful thinking? A couple of days hosted mining would go a long way here.

You want your whole last email quoted here it is

"Hi Steve,

Our customer service department has started contacting each customer with regard to the compensation plan and will contact you in that regard soon.

We have started shipping the Group Buy units today and all units are expected to be shipped on time before the end of the month.

The SP30 under current spec is still an excellent unit but should you chose to cancel your order we will refund you in USD. All refunds will be paid out in October as we are still setting up our systems to manage the transfers correctly.

Should you choose to cancel your order please let us know ASAP as this is only possible before we ship the unit. Once the unit is shipped we can no longer process the cancellation request.

Best Regards,

Gadi "

I don't know where it says that it's ready to go pending my reply.

In fact it clearly states that you will contact me soon regarding the details of the compensation...Still waiting for that email!

Yes I still want the miner if its ready to go then by all means ship it out right now I'll take the 18% cash refund you have offered others.

Thankyou.

Thanks for the clarification Bick I withdraw my shenanigans from SPTech... for the moment... I am still greatly sceptical that they will ship them all by the end of the week given the number of orders behind me.

Anyone else who got a miner or tracking want to post their TXID or placeholder/deposit date would be greatly appreciated

Also @ Whooper: It is clearly stated in the group buy that shipping order is based on the order of the reservation TXID. I have this confirmed to me by Roadstress in the original PM's from the GB too.

3/5 Mine was the on the 27/4 (you can look up my TXID if you don't believe me) And you got your miner already?

WTF Spondoolies! Shipping way out of order!

I really really hope you are right Bick... The thing is though if you look at the TXID's of the GB I would be roughly half way through...

There are roughly 50 orders with approx. 100 units in front of me and roughly 70 orders for 130 units BEHIND me (Not including the 185 unit whale that we have been told was practically the only one to not pay the full amount)

So they haven't even shipped half the GB yet...


Edit:
This is my TXID if you want to confirm what I am saying

e00c8e0e7dbc4e1ecf47a6ebca8574dcabc1f75e12eb6483f6d338edef1084eb

Anyone who has received a miner or tracking number please post the TXID of your original deposit so we can see where they really are with their orders

I'm not talking tracking mate... I haven't even been notified about comp options...

Also they repeatedly stated in this thread that the GB would be shipped this week... Do I need to go back and quote it?

EDIT: Bad typos... Hell why not quote them...

So its 1pm on Thursday in Israel right now and I still haven't even got a email about the compensation options.... Starting to seriously doubt the possibility that they will ship all the GB units by the end of the week...

Prove me wrong Spondoolies ... prove me wrong please  

I transferred the full amount the day after the 0.1BTC deposit was paid. Not sure how many days it took to end up in their account.

That should not matter anyway! It was made very clear in the GB that the shipping queue would be in the order of the 0.1 BTC deposit that was sent to Roadstress not when the full amount cleared.

Come on ST are you shipping out of order?!? And still no email in regards to compensation or shipping yet... Am I like the last person from the GB they are going to contact?

WTF!

I am #121X and I still have not even got the email regarding the compensation... forget about tracking... um order queue much?

And if I select full refund will this be in dollars or bitcoin?

Can someone please say clearly what the compensation or refund option for the group buy is. I still have not been contacted about it.

Main question is the comp/refund in dollars or in bitcoin?

Cheers

I think it's pretty obvious he wasn't expecting the compensation now rather... "What compensation package they should offer us"

I also think they should announce this already the SP30 is preforming 20% under hashpower and for the vast majority of buyers they were already looking at a less than 20% ROI with the original specs. Without adequate compensation the SP30 is definitely a loosing bet... it will never ROI...

Even if you got your GB SP30 today (probably wont show up at your house for another two weeks) and difficulty increased by only 15% it will mine about 8 bitcoins in it's usable life since it cost about 10 at the time of the GB, that's a loss of 20% (Not even including the power/hosting costs)... Now you see why the compensation is critical to this 'investment' paying off or not?

That's why it would be good to have some news now... I'm sure it would put at ease all those GB customers that have now lost bitcoin on the SP30 venture (pretty much everyone).

Yeah....that's just the shipping part.... but what about building them?

Spondoolies has droned on before that they build test and ship a unit in a 24Hr period, that they don't hold onto it longer than that mining from themselves if this is true the building rate must match the shipping rate.

So since the start of August 20 days ago if they are building/shipping at that rate they must have produced 20*(400 to 1100) units or 8000-22000 SP-30's

That's a total Hashrate of 4500Gh/s*(8000 to 22000) or 36 - 99 Ph/s

Since August the entire network has risen by ~ 40Ph/s

So if they are producing 400 per day then they account for the all the hardware deployed in the month of August (totally ridiculous considering all the other manufactures specifically Bitmain pumping out the S3's)

And to pretend that they have been making 1100 per day is crazy as there simply hasn't been that much Hashrate deployed in the whole network since the start of August.

EDIT: Just realised that Spond's quoted just now they are making 50-100 units per day

SO how can they ship all 400-1100 units from GB/August batch 2 if they start shipping of the 30th?

Ok even if you count the GB as the START of Batch 2 it still dosen't make sense for them to start shipping it on the 30th and not come out late with some of Batch 2/GB. I mean there was close to 400 units in the GB and we have no idea how many were sold after that under the name August Batch 2... Since they allowed up to 1100 units to be purchased in the GB I imagine the shortfall was made up after the GB closed under the name August Batch 2.

Do you think it is plausible that they will ship 400-1100 units in two days if they start shipping the GB/Batch 2 on the 30th?


 

Before someone says why don't you just email Spondoolies, I have more than once and no reply.

Can someone please explain the Spondoolies shipping queue to me... My current understanding is...

August Batch 1
Roadstress GB
August Batch 2

Now people have been told that the GB will ship between 15th-30th of August. How can they ship the GB as late as the 30th if there was an August batch 2 that succeeded it?

Are they shipping Batch 2 before the GB or are they shipping Batch 2 late?

Cheers,


 

Lol I am a bit of a bogan aren't I... and I am riled up but I have misplaced my anger towards you, your sarcasm just tipped me over the edge. Sorry for swearing at you.

Also I have emailed Spondoolies for estimated shipping dates twice... no responses... I'm asking people here because they have ignored me.

Ok so if the GB is not part of batch one it must still be before batch two as I am positive that they did not start advertising batch two until the GB had ended.

So that means the GB must come after batch one but before batch two. I still don't see how they can be shipping your GB unit on the 30th and then still have time to ship batch two?

Now my rant...

I know this account is new but I have been at this for quite some time and have dealt with multiple ASIC manufacturers and you know what when something goes wrong it's always the customer that get's shafted.

This whole fiasco with the sp30 reminds me a lot of what happened with cointerra. They failed to deliver on their specs by a similar margin, they however did the right thing and offered refunds... unfortunately for them ALOT of people refunded and they ran out of money and it pretty much destroyed their reputation when they couldn't pay all the refunds, some had to wait many many months. But it was the right thing to do to offer a refund.

Spondoolies isn't offering a refund but rather a vague promise of a partial refund some time in October...

I'm just sick of these ASIC companies and their bullshit, if they wanted to fix their reputation they would at least be transparent about the shipping.

How many units do they ship a day?
How many units until your order number?
Equals many days until your order ships.

To work out an approximate date is not fucking rocket science Its just adding! Not replying to emails or telling you sometime between 15th-30th is unacceptable. I mean that's half the fucking month, we already know it has to be some time in august, they may as well have just told you nothing!

IF we ever get a partial refund then they might be able to say they have screwed their customers slightly less than cointerra did... Until then they are shipping greatly underspecced units with no refund and no compensation that's the reality. Nobody should be 'pleased' with this situation. 

Even if we ever get the comp spondoolies have said its based on the $/Gh but what about the W/Gh? Its gone from 0.46W(still in the title of this thread) to 0.67W, ~50% increase! This greatly effects the profitable lifetime of the device because power is NOT free. I saw lots of people raise this point on the main spondoolies thread but they were all ignored.

Of course this wouldn't be a problem if they just did the right thing and offered refunds but they won't do that because they know they will have too many refunds and it will destroy their company just like cointerra.

So even though Cointerra fucked over their customers at least they did the moral thing they risked their business to offer refunds when they failed. Spondoolies won't even take this risk, it's shameful really.

To anyone who thinks the compensation will make up for the under delivered specs. YOU ARE DREAMING! If Sponds had the money to make us all whole then they would just offer refunds plain and simple. What we MIGHT get is PARTIAL compensation but we will NOT be made WHOLE.

Rant over.

Thanks for sharing your email. However it's not particularly useful as it is already the 15th and if they were to ship after the 30th it would no longer be in August... I had kind of already assumed this...

Now to address your needless sarcasm...

Let me guess you are an American?

I guess this because it is generally those from the most self obsessed nation on the planet that fail to realise that it is a different date and time at different places on the planet "Gasp!".

I'm sure that this will come as a surprise to you but I posted that at about 10AM of the 14th in my time zone. I know I was a whole 14hrs before it was halfway through the month (according to you). Seriously who fucking cares it's basically halfway through... why must you be such a fucking pedantic arsehole?

I mean do you really think people will read your post a think 'wow that guy he's seriously smart pointing out its not precisely halfway through the month, how clever!'.

The point remains it's approximately halfway through the month and they haven't stated when they will start shipping. Since there are two batches in August and this GB was in the first batch I think they should announce that by now... Also if they do wait until the 30th (as they say they might in your email) to start shipping this GB then it would mean the august batch 2 will not be on time or it got shipped out ahead of these GB orders. Neither of those things are good...

Halfway through August! When will they start shipping this GB?  

Surely they must have some idea by now when they can start shipping it... It was in the first August batch after all...

WTF man! You think they have over 51% and you still point miners at them... Where is your logic?!?