Hey kozmos,

as I already stated in my previous post, the production rate of the next higher chain level is reduced by factor 10-15 - based on personal observations. I'd expect you to have an average output rate of ~3 Shares/h => 72 shares/day => ~0,6 XPM per day atm, when running your miner continously.

Tips on tweaking I can't provide, to be honest I wasn't able to establish a general pattern for setting up mining machines til now. Usually the default setup using primoral 61 and Sievesize 1M-1,5M always worked best for me.

Hello Artemka, and welcom to the forums!

At first I'd suggest you to keep the system running for a little more time. To get a usefull impression of what output you will receive you should leave it running at least for one week I'd say. I've started mining about 1 1/2 months ago and noticed an average pattern of Chain lenght decrease by 10 when incresing the length by 1.

This means, If you do ~13 7-chains/h, you will propably make ~1,3 8-chains, 0,13 9-chains, 0,013 10-chains and so on. Based on my calculater and going out from a value of 13 7-chains/h, you would make around ~7,93 Shares/hour on the long term, based on yPool share values.

This again would be ~114 USD or ~84 € per month based on current exchange rates per XPM and weighting the current difficulty of ~10,42.

But that is just some calculation geekism right now.

I really recommend you to leave the system running for some time and recalculate the value again when you know your real output.

Hey clintar, thank you for adding this option. I also sent you 2 XPM to support you and your work. I know it isn't much, but I don't have much more atm anyways.

However, I think you introduced a bug with the last update. A new System of mine using your latest version crashes after some hours of working quite fine with the following output:

First occurence after ~8 hours, second one after ~14. The earlier version of the miner is running on another system for > 1 Week now without any problems.

Wow! If this would work, It could change the edge of the way primecoins are mined nowadays; single people could do this in a profitable way again, at least in the beginnings.

The question is, how powerfull is it? Have you already been able to perform single benchmarks or unit tests on it? Or is it too early to tell?

1. Im wondering that your connection isn't refused at all. Since Difficulty is at 10.4 now, it could happen that yPool detects your low target settings and refuses your shares. But if its not refused just leave it that way as it should generate more shares then.

2. Im currently making ~6 Shares/hour average summarized on all my machines mining at yPool, which is ~1.2 XPM/day if my calculations are correct. You can test it using the formula:
With yPool-Fee currently being 0,03 and Difficulty as stated by yPool.

Multiply the result with your total Shares/h and multiply that by 24(hours) again to get your XPM/Day.

But considering the machines you stated, I think your values are pretty much the maximum you can get out of them.

Alright, I checke dit again and found out that the setting of the Sieve Size actuelly works. I thought it wasn't working because the miner prints something like "Generated Table [0,1000000] with 664854 Primes" on startup. Don't know if it is a bug, though...

Question: Does the miner automatically adjust this value to the performance of the system? If yes, it might be better if I didn't even touch that value.


Exactly!

Hey there!

I'm currently testing your code; as far as I can see everything works properly except one minor bug: The miner doesen't seem to take a manually set sievesize using "-s" in the command line.

Question: Does the aero-miner perform some kind of auto tuning?

It would also be great if you could add an option to enable the output messages via command line, too. I'm usually running the application via startup script and I didn't came across a method to send keystrokes to an application using the command line.

But overall very solid work, currently running benchmarks to compare it with tandys miner. Keep it going!

Basically this would work I think. The better question is, how do you check the person who is doing this for you is trustworthy and only taking for example 10% of the Profit earned by your capital and not 50 ?


Depends on what you are doing (which coin). I'm currently building up my own cloud for Primecoin, but if the difficulty rises beyond 11, I will have to consider taking my winnings and look for something else...

BTC is only profitable using asics for BTC-Mining, which as I guess, the average Cloud Service Provider does not offer.

Amazon offers GPU Cloud instances afaik, but I would be carefull about the pricing and the risk, that ASICS are quite easily developed if a GPU algorythm is applyable...

Copy and Paste of "Canaryinthemine" into Google came up with this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18614

I have to say that I have a little doubt that your rig will ever run anyways...

Mining underlies (basically) the same risk as any other type of investment in my opinion. As Cryptocurrencies are still not approved as payment mehtod by many Countries, there is a large risk of exchange rate fluctuations as we currently see very well when looking at Bitcoin. China says "NO", BTC drops. Starbucks (or any other company for example) says "YES", exchange rate climbs up, altough not with similar impact as if a whole country would accept a coin as a valid currency. High Risk => High Payout/Loss

Industrial revolution? - Maybe. Most Coins are based on Hashing Proof-of-Work algorythms that don't actually generate something thats usefull for other aspects of our everyday life. But there are some coins which have at least the right approach, Primecoin for example. Altough I personally have no real benefit from knowing a Prime number with 300 Million digits, these numbers are at least usefull for Sercurity systems as long as the master pattern for generating prime numbers won't be discovered.

I'm currently mining them too, as they are relatively safe from being overcome by GPUs or ASICs for at least the near future and allow for a stable payout expectation. This has - in my opinion - the additional advantage that I won't have to buy and build my own minign rigs, but that I can rent servers to participate on the calculation process instead.

But there is still a certain risk left, altough said aspects are very unlikely atm.

I think the profitability of mining depends on what cryptocoin you are mining. Im currently investing in some pool mining servers for Primecoin, wich still can be profitable if you invest enough time to find cheap providers where you can have dedicated CPU cores for a relatively low price.

From my point of view I found out that you reach the best profits when you use many small machines instead of one big. I still got an i7-3770 running which makes 0.3633 Shares/hour, what means a loss of -59,07% compared to the monthly price. But on the other hand I found a host which covers its monthly price just by the default output of Shares I get. Every lucky shot within(long chains or full blocks) is pure profit for me.

But it takes a lot of research time to find optimal conditions like that. And of course it could happen that the price for XPM halves or something similar. Free enterprise is always connected with a certain risk.