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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 07/05/2018, 18:43:03 UTC
This is ridiculous. This needs to stop. 15+ pages of mindless who done it. I see nothing but paranoid conjecture. Truly deplorable. It appears a group of self proclaimed freedom fighters are attempting to force they're hypothetical conspiracies on anyone with a different opinion. Sounds like antifa. Baseless threats of exposure being thrown around in a child like attempt at cloak and dagger. Seriously people these kinds of tactics are beneath anyone presenting themselves as adults.

The real truth of the matter is this. None of you are privy to the types of information needed to make any kind of accusation. This absurd crusade against a company that has done nothing illegal is fruitless. Your persistence in this speaks volumes in regards to your intent. Which i believe to be nefarious. You've created a separate chat group who's very title implies antipathy. Even though you claim it's purpose is one of free speech and differing opinion.

I believe most of your actions stem from a feeling of impatient entitlement for some of you. I also believe that your malcontent has left you vulnerable to agitators. In my opinion there are those within your group praying upon your feelings of distrust manipulating you for there own purpose. I don't claim to know who or why. I'm merely reading the signs.

Before purchasing tokens we all signed a terms and conditions attachment. If this was not clear to you than your diligence has failed you. This project will take as long as it takes no more no less. The only return on impatients is disappointment. I've seen no signs of fraudulent behavior (lack of communication is not fraudulent behavior). To the contrary I've seen a team willing to subject themselves to continued beratement in an attempt to keep from misleading purchasers with incomplete information. Life does not always go according to plan DEAL WITH IT.

Just so there's no misconception here's a disclaimer.

The preceding statement was NOT a paid advertisement. Nor does it reflect the opinions of amlbitcoin the nac foundation it owners affiliates or advertisers.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 12/04/2018, 18:08:31 UTC
I love the fact that 60 million AML tokens were sold. I am sure this project will be a huge success. Can’t wait for it to be listed on the exchanges!


Are you saying because they sold 60 million tokens, they should take months and months ( or as long as they like) to list the coin on the exchange and that will be okay?
And the investors should be happy with that?



My buddy got a phone call from someone that distributed tokens, they told him that a lot of people still haven't updated their wallet or their wallet address was wrong (including him).

So, knowing that, I would assume AML is just waiting on everyone to get their wallet addresses in order to receive tokens. At this stage, I doubt AML is making everyone wait for no reason.



Okay, guys!
So I recall emails went out 2 months ago to EVERY token holder to update their wallet so they can receive their tokens.
All the responsible investors did this and got their tokens.

However, some investors are traveling for fun! Other on holiday! Others forget!  Others don't care because thy put in to little! Others are just simply lazy, its this investment is not vital to them....THEY CARELESS!

Are you saying we should wait months and money until -----people doing activities, unrelated to their investment---finish their unrelated activities ---for the coin to list on the exchange?


Mark25, you must be an educated man.
Remember back in school teachers would give class assignments and some students never cared to turn their homework in?
Should the teachers have held up the progress of other students until the lazy, unmotivated, uninterested students one day work up to tide up?


Here's an answer to your question. Listings are not achieved by the producer of the product alone. Several parties are involved. You have just automatically assumed that it's NAC dragging there feet. Negotiations can be a lengthy process. Not to mention new compliance standards recently released have had several exchanges jumping through hoops in order to conform. Since its obvious you know nothing about the criteria. Maybe you shouldn't make assumptions.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 12/04/2018, 17:56:47 UTC
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE WE ARE NOT INVESTORS WE ARE BUYERS.
Just because you PURCHASED ABTC doesn't give you any rights beyond ownership of your PURCHASED amount of ABTC. We made these purchases with the belief that ABTC has or will have value. Simple as that. NAC owes you nothing but product. It is only within our aligned interest that we hope to profit from this PURCHASE. It is not just NAC's responsibility to promote the value of ABTC the responsibility lies with all of us. If you have received your tokens you are capable of trading or selling them. You don't have to wait for an exchange. I personally purchased ABTC for its revolutionary approach to a growing problem. INEVITABLE REGULATION. I believe this project will have a positive world wide impact on the crypto community. I am in no hurry to see it listed on an exchange. I'm in this for the possible use cases that i believe ABTC will eventually achieve. Exchanges are small time. Think of having the capability to pay off your mortgage, bank loans, credit cards, or pay for college with ABTC. That's the big picture that's the end goal. So to purchase a crypto on the ground level that has the best chance of achieving all of these things is truly a gift. A gift given to us by Marcus Andrade and the team at NAC/ABTC. Be grateful be positive be patient. Good things are coming.
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This doesn't answer my question above in any way!
Waiting for a meaning full answer.
I wasn't attempting to answer your question. This was a clarification to a misconception.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 12/04/2018, 17:18:47 UTC
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE WE ARE NOT INVESTORS WE ARE BUYERS.
Just because you PURCHASED ABTC doesn't give you any rights beyond ownership of your PURCHASED amount of ABTC. We made these purchases with the belief that ABTC has or will have value. Simple as that. NAC owes you nothing but product. It is only within our aligned interest that we hope to profit from this PURCHASE. It is not just NAC's responsibility to promote the value of ABTC the responsibility lies with all of us. If you have received your tokens you are capable of trading or selling them. You don't have to wait for an exchange. I personally purchased ABTC for its revolutionary approach to a growing problem. INEVITABLE REGULATION. I believe this project will have a positive world wide impact on the crypto community. I am in no hurry to see it listed on an exchange. I'm in this for the possible use cases that i believe ABTC will eventually achieve. Exchanges are small time. Think of having the capability to pay off your mortgage, bank loans, credit cards, or pay for college with ABTC. That's the big picture that's the end goal. So to purchase a crypto on the ground level that has the best chance of achieving all of these things is truly a gift. A gift given to us by Marcus Andrade and the team at NAC/ABTC. Be grateful be positive be patient. Good things are coming.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 11/04/2018, 17:07:07 UTC
If any of you have been paying attention to the market in the long term, you would see a pattern which usually presents itself as follows. First stage, ico, tokens are sold quickly accompanied by a flood of possibilities and promises. Second stage, distribution, tokens are distributed as quickly as possible in order to receive funds. Third stage, listing, the coin and or token is shoved into any exchange possible. Forth stage, silence, having been listed the developers of the platform seem to cut off all communication and subject the token holders to the volatility of the markets. A road map may be published with future deadlines that can be as far out as a year or more. All this time allows tokens to be subjected to pump and dumps, falsehoods, and media speculation. Keep in mind that most published deadlines are seldom met. This causes not only token holders to lose interest but also any possible partnerships. Thus causing the tokens to lose value and occasionally resulting in a failed project. I for one would not appreciate being thrown to the wolves in a volatile market if the completion of the project is still years away. In my opinion listing should be done as close as possible to the completion of the platform. Any new developments should be withheld until listing in order to maximize interest. It's just the smart way to do things. Patience will prevail.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 03/04/2018, 21:29:38 UTC
I've been following this forum for a while, so I know who slowdown is and must say that I am not him, but I fully understand his opinion, because this is going to far! I also left messages on twitter so you know I am not him. Im tired of being fooled for 6 months by this team and untill they hit the exchange, I have only this message:

bla bla bla bla bla, and again the same message, I told you not to use the word "soon" again! and still you have the guts to do that.

I know this does not happen overnight, but thats something different than 6 months! I lost my faith in you, even if you hit the exchange (probably in another 6 months) I won't let you fool me the whole project, because you will never ever succeed, this way.

You are the worst in communicating, worst in marketing, worst in planning. Also your admin in our community is the worst, unprofessional admin I've ever seen in the cryptoworld.

How can a trustworthy (aml/kyc) coin succeed if this team is one of the most untrustworthy team there is? How?!?
oh I'm sorry. Could you please establish some sort of credibility to your previous opinion about this particular team being the worst. Are you a marketing professional? Do you have a wealth of experience in ico projects? Is there some sort of background in finance or blockchain creation in your history? Could you please enlighten us as to how you think this team should proceed? Maybe you could use your vast network of connections to hurry the timeline along. While your at it see if you can reverse the bear market that crypto world seems to be suffering from.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 31/03/2018, 15:54:15 UTC
There is always a measure of faith in all investments. Something you have to realize is the checks and balances utilized by any successful establishment. Financial institutions and government are not impulsive or impatient. The only purchasers of this token that are pushing for a quick list are the individuals. Anyone following the market can see the bears have control. Listing a new token or coin (regardless of the type) would not be a good decision in a bear market. Waiting for stabilization and a new found bull interest would give ABTC a stronger chance at an immediate price increase. Any news or announcement after the fact would only be the proverbial icing on the cake.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 29/03/2018, 13:00:54 UTC
I do know that token distribution is still ongoing. It would seem there are some token holders that have been lax on adding the appropriate information on there profile in order to receive there tokens. This is evidenced by the continued encouragement from the nac team to upgrade wallets and add recieving addresses. In an effort to be fair to all who purchased tokens I think the announcement of the list date is being delayed in order to give the slackers one last chance. In my opinion it would not be wise to initially list the token in a down market. Whatever the plan may be I believe the nac team will do the right thing when the time comes.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 23/03/2018, 22:41:06 UTC
On a separate note. It's great to have some real numbers. 60 million is indeed impressive. The mention of the word merger has also peaked my interest. I shall anxiously await news of the fruits of nac's labor. Good things are happening.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
The Big C
on 23/03/2018, 22:35:26 UTC
AML Token Holder Update:

60 million AML Tokens were issued during the ICO. The remaining tokens will be used for mergers, etc. We are currently not allowing mining for AML Tokens, although mining will be available once AML BitCoins are released.

Was that so hard?

When will it be listed?

You guys are welcome!
I just can't help it. "Your welcome" are you completely insane. He says "your welcome" as if he had anything to do with the release of information. He actually thinks that he can't be sued because he lives in a different state. I thought you had topped out on oblivious but apparently you have a reserve tank. I am astounded that someone let you buy a gun. I'm also amazed that you haven't critically injured yourself in one of your hold my beer and watch this moments. I hope you live to see adulthood slow but i wouldn't lay money on it.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
The Big C
on 22/03/2018, 17:08:35 UTC
Given the behaviour of some of the more prolific commentators in this community, I am backing off from trying to elevate the debate into more interesting areas around KYC and AML.

I set up an account because I wanted to participate in some good debate, and there have been some good contributions from some people.

The constant childlike behaviour of some is ridiculous.

Completely agree with the comments from Stealth8368 about the FUD being spread.

We need a moderated platform so that we can have an informed and sensible debate.

I couldn’t agree more. Lively and intelligent debate is always welcomed and appreciated.

I came on this forum to share articles and news that I’ve found related to the advancements AML is making in the crypto world but all I’ve encountered is bombardment from internet trolls that want to turn this informative feed into a circus.

I know answers are coming and I feel at peace with the investment I’ve made. Everyone that is not an investor should leave the forum so that it can once again be a space for brilliant conversation among buyers. 
I have decided to no longer engage with some participants. I'd rather post informative and encouraging information. The logical next step would be to ignore the ignorant and proceed around them. I for one will no longer troll the troll. Even though some found it entertaining (including myself) i see now it served no other purpose. Positivity can be as contagious as negativity so with a concerted effort i believe the forum can move past this.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 22/03/2018, 16:59:31 UTC
https://twitter.com/BTCTN/status/976378500268642304?s=19
https://twitter.com/jerrybrito/status/975830759075434496?s=19
https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/975810152011108352?s=19
https://twitter.com/BTCTN/status/975003367104831488?s=19
https://twitter.com/crypto/status/974022662619004928?s=19
https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/971523211102998528?s=19
https://twitter.com/BTCTN/status/969711254569930752?s=19
https://twitter.com/BTCTN/status/969544034346774528?s=19

Let's clear something up. We are not investors we are purchasers. We purchased a product that we believe has or will have value. The belief that this product has or will have value comes from the percieved need for this project in the crypto world. This percieved need is derived from media and government sources that wish to implement regulatory standards. The links above all refer to the direction being taken by governments and financial institutions. This is why we PURCHASED ABTC. The general consensus among PURCHASERS is that this product will have relevance in the near future. If your having trouble being patient may i suggest occupying your time elsewhere. The nac team is working as fast as they can and will disclose information when they have it. We as PURCHASERS need to have patience. This is a one of a kind product and takes time to perfect. I believe they have our best interest in mind so have faith.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
The Big C
on 18/03/2018, 12:17:59 UTC
My name is David Salmon.  I am a Nevada attorney representing NAC Foundation/AML Bitcoin.  I have decided to join this group inasmuch as a great deal of misinformation is being spread by Sloowdown on this site and I want to make sure all of you can have your concerns addressed.  If you have any questions about NAC Foundation/AML Bitcoin based on what you read here, I encourage you to address them to me for a response.
Hi David thanks for stepping in great to have you here.
Agreed. Thanks David.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
The Big C
on 18/03/2018, 12:16:15 UTC
Lmao so you got your refund and still won't return your the tokens they sent you huh slow. You're no longer a buyer or have any vested interests, and yet you're still demanding information. You've falsely claimed that YOU ARE responsible for getting people fired. Still you persist in telling everyone that NAC is creating fake accounts to silence you. And now your disobeying an attorneys request to cease and desist. Does all this sound about right. It would seem to me that these are the actions of a thief and a scammer. Either you are having trouble understanding your own actions or you know full well what you're doing. To be clear I'm not "mad" about any questions being asked i simply find your behavior appalling. So even though you don't deserve an answer from anybody. I'll see if i can help.

Question 1.  "How many tokens were sold".
Answer.  None of YOUR damn business. YOU'RE NOT A BUYER.

Question 2.    "When will it be listed on the exchange"
Answer.  SOON.

There now you have as much information as the rest of us. Looking forward to the next time my little fool. See you then.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
The Big C
on 17/03/2018, 14:38:46 UTC
I think it’s fair to say AML Bitcoin attracts a different kind of investor than most of the crypto currency out there,I put us in with ripple but with a decentralised approach  and as such we will incur FUD from those that want a currency with untracable payments and cutting out banks altogether,I myself would love this but let’s be honest it’s very unlikely to happen,who knows where this new tech will take us but u can be sure regulation is coming and those coins like AML Bitcoin will look very attractive to investors  when it does,for me the holy grail is owning your crypto and been protected from getting hacked and coins stolen,Billions  have been stolen from crypto investors so far and hacks are getting bigger,we don’t here so much about smaller personal hacks but it happens daily,AML Bitcoin solves this problem and many more.

Well said.
Indeed
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 17/03/2018, 06:32:14 UTC
It looks like AML officials have been all around the globe talking with government leaders. Super impressive! Can't wait see what happens...

https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/a-new-digital-currency-aml-bitcoin-makes-landfall-in-panama/

I read another article that they were in London and Estonia to meet with government leaders. It looks like big things are happening!

I guess thats why they are so busy because they sure are not talking to you here. How many tokens were sold?

The team is making waves. I don't see any other crypto company going to meet with government officials or doing anything similar to what they are. Even if they're not replying here, who cares. I see how powerful this coin is and where it's going.

How can you see anything? Thats not true if you see it is because they arre showing you which means you must know them because they not showwing the rest of us jack!

Wah wah wah. Go cry on your mamas lap.

The fact still remains how many tokens did they sell? When will they be listed? Your insults only show you are focused on the wrong thing and that is why am I asking questions. Why does it make you so angrry that I ask questions?

You see i have got the Admin kicked out from all the bullshit they said here, are you the admin with a new name since you are not allowed to post here with AML name anymore? Its because this is a sham. They are not telling us for a reason the most basic things an investor should know.


I'm an investor that's sick of your shit. I saw what the admin posted to you and it was SPOT ON. They shouldve told you that a long time ago. Kudos to admin. These people work hard and you're trying to fuck with them. You're off your fucking rocker to convince that little pea brain of yours that AML is doing anything because of you. Y You're trying to cause problems for AML and spread FUD. I invested a lot in this coin so now you're fucking with me.

They gave you a refund. You're still here demanding shit from them and bitching. No one wants to hear your psycho rants anymore. You need to be locked up in a padded room. Go slap yourself in the face a few times after you spin yourself around in circles trying to catch your tail troll.

Harry my friend don't let the little child convince you to play his game. Letting yourself get angry only brings you to his level. And trust me that's a pretty big step down. Just realize that his life is so much worse that yours. He doesn't deserve your anger he deserves your pity. I mean imagine how hard life would be If the only thing you had was mom's cozy basement and an xbox 360. Not to mention the intelligence level of a 4 year old with chemical deficiency. Just realize he'll be forgotten soon opportunity will have passed him by.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
The Big C
on 17/03/2018, 06:16:56 UTC
Ok let's clear some things up for the petulant bag of wind (that means you slow). Firstly since you claim to have (done your homework) you would obviously know that we are not investors we are buyers (you are neither). It clearly states in the terms and conditions (which you obviously didn't read) that by purchasing tokens you are not investing you are simply purchasing something that you percieve has or will have value. Secondly the NAC foundation has not promised to disclose the amount of tokens sold nor funds raised. But you would already know this slow since you "did your homework". And last but not least the admin is not absent they have merely decided to no longer respond to you. And could you enlighten us as to your credentials as a crypto expert. Or your expertise in the field of team assessment or business model analytics. How can you presume to know what the NAC team is capable of. Your over inflated sense of self worth is rivaled only by your presumptive paranoia. You claim to be rich you claim to be immovable yet your behavior demonstrates a lack of self control and absence of intelligence. You consistently respond to any positives with negatives. This speaks (psychologically) to lack of self esteem. YOU ARE NO EXPERT in any sense of the word. You're an impatient, impulsive, disrespectful little child that got his feelings hurt. So you decided to seek out any reasons to stomp your feet and cry at the top of your lungs. This team owes you nothing except maybe a defamation lawsuit. You've reached a level of pathetic rarely seen in the world of crypto. But I'm sure your going to be looking to set an unreachable record. Until next time my little fool.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 16/03/2018, 17:24:17 UTC
Something to keep your eyes on when it comes to media. The G20 summit will happen in a matter of days march 19-20 to be exact. A clearer definition of regulatory frame work is expected to emerge from these talks. It would not surprise me if news from the ABTC team would follow. Its impossible too be certain, so this is a speculative analogy. Either way regulatory clarity will be beneficial. I expect there to be firm definition placed upon cryptos i.e. whether they exist in the security of commodity categories. Judging purely by existing definitions most currency type coins should fall into the commodity category. I believe these types of labels will assist the accredited and institutional investor in feeling more secure about the future of crypto. A clear regulatory frame work is essential if the masses are going to start providing use cases for digital currency. Keeping this mind ABTC has positioned itself to preemptively comply with any possible outcome. I truly believe I've invested in the right platform.

I completely agree with you that it's a key source of announcements and direction for the next 12-24 months.  They have to come out with something.

It will be interesting to see if the G20 direct the OECD as they have in the past to come up with an overarching regulatory framework.  Mind you anything they decide will take a long time to be implemented and would have to be passed as domestic regulations based on international standards.  There is plenty of precedence for this.

So before that comes in there will be a complete mismatch of domestic regulations.

Which just means that there will be more opportunities for ABTC.

So many countries are playing regulatory catch up to try and attract business.  Both France and Spain fall into this group.

Clear regulatory leaders are Singapore, Switzerland and UK.

One leading player to watch is Christine Lagarde, IMF Head.  If anyone doubts this, read https://blogs.imf.org/2018/03/13/addressing-the-dark-side-of-the-crypto-world/
I agree that implementation will lengthy. On the other hand the volatility and impulsive nature of crypto investors could help drive acceptance of ABTC. I believe that u.s. involvement in regulatory standards will give other countries an incentive to conform. The u.s. has always been a leader in this space, and many countries have adopted its framework. That being said there are several senators and financial leaders sympathetic to the crypto cause. It seems to be the general consensus not to stifle innovationawhen it comes to this new investment sector.

With that in mind. My hopes lie with the ability of innovative forward thinking participants to successfully convince there counterparts that a fair and broadbased framework is the way forward. But until they can come to a decision i fear instability will be the norm.

I have to say Crypto it's quite refreshing to communicate with an individual that doesn't make me want to reform our scholastic institutions. I think more intelligent debate is just what this forum needs.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 15/03/2018, 18:52:42 UTC
Something to keep your eyes on when it comes to media. The G20 summit will happen in a matter of days march 19-20 to be exact. A clearer definition of regulatory frame work is expected to emerge from these talks. It would not surprise me if news from the ABTC team would follow. Its impossible too be certain, so this is a speculative analogy. Either way regulatory clarity will be beneficial. I expect there to be firm definition placed upon cryptos i.e. whether they exist in the security of commodity categories. Judging purely by existing definitions most currency type coins should fall into the commodity category. I believe these types of labels will assist the accredited and institutional investor in feeling more secure about the future of crypto. A clear regulatory frame work is essential if the masses are going to start providing use cases for digital currency. Keeping this mind ABTC has positioned itself to preemptively comply with any possible outcome. I truly believe I've invested in the right platform.

LOL What? Bull
Sorry slow i don't have time to write the idiot version for you. Maybe later. I know you get frustrated when you can't understand the conversation. Just remember to put on your helmet before banging your head in anger. Always remember you are your mother's special little guy.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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The Big C
on 15/03/2018, 13:04:25 UTC
Something to keep your eyes on when it comes to media. The G20 summit will happen in a matter of days march 19-20 to be exact. A clearer definition of regulatory frame work is expected to emerge from these talks. It would not surprise me if news from the ABTC team would follow. Its impossible too be certain, so this is a speculative analogy. Either way regulatory clarity will be beneficial. I expect there to be firm definition placed upon cryptos i.e. whether they exist in the security of commodity categories. Judging purely by existing definitions most currency type coins should fall into the commodity category. I believe these types of labels will assist the accredited and institutional investor in feeling more secure about the future of crypto. A clear regulatory frame work is essential if the masses are going to start providing use cases for digital currency. Keeping this mind ABTC has positioned itself to preemptively comply with any possible outcome. I truly believe I've invested in the right platform.