Why are people getting so saltly of Bitmain Asics?

The Asics literally support the network.
If you were mining Sia with GPU it must have been more for support than profit - because you could have been mining a more profitable coin and then simply buying more sia with that profit that what you were earning by simply mining. GPUS have the agility to mine different coins - take advantage of your hardware.

When it comes to the obelisk who actually pre-orders asics anymore? Have you not learned from the many many cases where pre-orders either disappeared, got delayed by months or another competitor beat them to the punch?

Tough lessons to be learned in crypto but to get salty about it and blame a company for releasing a product on an open market just spouts your disgust in yourself for falling for such pitfalls.

Historically whatever coin Bitmain launch an ASIC for the price has increased pretty damn well over the next year.

For those saying these new ASIC miners are tanking the price please open your eyes - we have been in a bear market since before XMAS, nearly every coin is getting tanked hard.

You've basically stated the middle layer of their scam.
You loaded btc into the wallet to convert to bcc and your loan was in usd value. You gave them BCC into that $ value loan but at the end of the loans you got $ back -  not the original amount of bcc you loaned.

Example that you bought 100 bcc for 10 bucks each for a total cost of $1,000. You loaned them $1,000 and got interest based off $1,000.
The price of bcc soars from $10 to $100 Even though you loaned them 10BCC you still got paid interest based off the original value when you bought them for the total cost of $1,000.
Then at the end of the loan you didn't get your 10bcc back which would be worth $10,000 you just got the $1,000 back.
So if you did loan them bcc why did you not get bcc back?
Thus you did loan them usd which you clearly state they were not authorised to do.

This is the middle later of the scam which kept them going for so long.

Just some info for any people who still have doubts it is a scam exit.

When a loan finished you got the $ amount back in your wallet. They did not convert that $ to bcc. At some point you would have to change to BCC but you could leave that $ in your wallet until a time you decide to act.
On this exit scam they forced your $ into BCC tokens. They removed your ability to make that decision.

So not only did they do a breach of contract by ending loans early they have also made a financial decision for you by forcefully converting your $ to a token.

Do you really expect that they didn't think people would tank the bcc price by panic selling? I bet they had an account on hitbtc to buy at sub $10 and sold for above $30 as well. This would be classed as insider trading.  

So that is 3 possible lawsuits regardless of it being a ponzi.  
Breach of contract
Making financial decisions with your money without authorisation (or even qualification)
And Insider trading

I was hoping for another 6 months out of them. I think a lot of users knew deep down it would all come crashing to an end. Personally I made slightly more than my investment and cashed out most of the profit. Although a large chunk of the earnings from the platform was stuck in re-investments which it looks like I am going to get back at $25 a bcc coin...sickened.

I give my condolences for those who especially didn't even reach break even. This is not what crypto is about. This has also come at a time where regulations maybe more than FUD so it certainly has hurt this space.

Just an idea, not that it probably matters, more of an interest really but as an investor you could not ask for your loan back yet they have just stopped everyones loans. Is that not classed as a breach of contract? Something they could be sued for? I know it's not like a proper company or whatever as the people behind it are still unknown..but they are still raising money with the ICO (surely nobody is going to invest?!) so if the possibility of a slip up from their personnel makes them visible then maybe a lawsuit can follow for breach of contract?
I have been up all night watching the shit show go down so I'm probably just rambling haha

You are getting called scammers because you fail to mention that you are not the old segwit2x team.

You should do video similar to charlie lee for lite coin.
Do a video introducing yourselves and be honest to say you have taken over the b2x ticket.
You have not done such a thing because you want to trick investors into thinking you are the last group who ran b2x.
The last group had support of coinbase and major crypto players.
You have the support of hitcbtc and yobit (who you probably paid).

This loses you a lot of credit.
It throws into doubt you're whole project because segwit is needed for the sha256 algo and you are x11.  X11 is running fine. You also use terminology like lightning network. Well that is more like a LTC / scrypt thing.
It's like you use fancy words from different algos that make your project sound good when x11 needs none of these things.

So in summery you have pretended to be something you are not trying to show fixes for problems that don't exist with zero support from reputable sources.

Either be honest and do videos showing your team saying you have a new idea but are using an old ticker and explain your project. This is the only way you will stop getting called scammers.
You have almost zero visibilty with a fork due to go ahead in a few days. It's very bad.

That's the thing I find a little sneaky and that's really how the money is made. I don't class that as a ponzi. The UK gov will probably not like the idea of how wealth is generated this way but they maybe forced to accept the concept without creating new laws which the uk gov would probably not touch with a barge pole  (and even if they did would probably take the U.K. until 2048 to sort it out).
Besides all the guy has to say is that they do not guarantee profit - quite a few $0 days on the platform and the site only claims upto 40% per month. Many uk companies get away with shit business practice and even advertising jobs that pay upto £100,000 per year but in reality only 1 guy in 1987 made that much based off 1 weeks performance pro-rated. So with careful wording such as that then the site will more than likely pass the inspections.

Plus Vitalik Buterins twitter thing states BCC is a scam "if it guarantees 1% a day" - well the platform does not guarantee 1% a day. The platform seems to average around 1% per day but in no means is that a guarantee. That's a world of difference legally speaking.

Of course many miners chasing the money who could swap back to BTC when that difficulty increase happens. On the other hand we maybe surprised to see a lot of hash power stay with BCH if some groups have genuinely decided BCH is the better coin.
All that would need to happen is the miners to push the price up by not selling below 'x' amount.
In terms of money chasing miners, BTC is looking a pretty poor choice on the sha256 algo anyway even ignoring BCH...

The only reason I was not a fan of BCH is because of the centralised nature - but that can easily change if miners switch from BTC to BCH.  BCH is now over 2x more profitable to mine over BTC. The miners have the opportunity to switch every minute of every day. If they swap then the coin becomes decentralised and the price will go up in line with difficulty just as BTC has done.
Plus as the miners swap from BTC to BCH then the BTC network becomes even more clogged as less power is available to confirm all those transactions which will frustrate the merchants even more and encourge they swap coin thus hurting the price of BTC in turn encouraging more miners to mine BCH - rinse and repeat.     

People also seem to be saying you cannot buy anthing with BCH, well you can now only buy sha256 asic miners from Bitmain with BCH (ok a little ironic) but the fact is that's a big merchant. It's only going to take a couple of other big merchants who get annoyed at slow transactions to ban/stop BTC payments and start accepting BCH payments. If the merchants flip to the coin then the price really will flip. It seems BTC is really holding onto hope that merchants will 'stick with what they know' but at the end of the day they run a business and if they and their customers are being charged too much in fees then it's only a matter of time before they swap coins.

I'm happy enough to hold BCH to shop from Bitmain alone.

Can anyone from the team please explain what anti-cheat systems will be inatalled for player vs player mobilego prize games?
I am guessing this is the area causing some delay towards the launch as this tech must be the newest and best in the market to give players the confidence to use the tokens / system.
Also I want to expand the question to ask will this new system be patented to potentially sell to other games / gaming platforms who will be interested in stopping online cheats and hacks?
Perhaps the tech can be 'leased' to other interested parties in exchange for  them purchasing and holding mobilego / game credits for fixed amount of time so the value of the system pushes up the value of the coins to reward investors.

Couple of things really that majority involved in crypto want quick wins. The first 6 month of this year has breeded the mentality for quick profits. Mgo is not at a stage for a quick win so these mind sets are moving money to speculative projects...key word..speculative...the majority long term holders know this mgo is not so speculative. Solid plan and team in place. The jumpers will jump back in later and most will miss huge gains but they will keep chasing their %s.

2nd thing is that summer is normally a great time for fiat stocks. I believe this is why the crypto market is now stalled around the $100 bill mark.  Once 3rd/4th Quarter hits big money will pull from fiat markets into crypto and this is when we could see btc at $10K with the alts also gaining heavily. With these time frames the game and mgo teams are planning on time to hit the masses with product availabilty and marketing opportunity to pull in big investment. 
This big push into crypto can happen with the collapse of the euro. Already The ECB has pushed 2 italian banks into insolvency but this is kept quiet in the news because they dont want market panic for as long as possible - the fiat bubble will pop hard.

3rd there are a more and more coins trying to copy or doing their own version of gaming coins. So some people may jump on their band wagon. Some mat fear competition will cause de-value. This is where game should (probably are to be fair) working hard, fast and smart as possible to get a finished store and products working and launched.  Everyday not launch is where competition is biting, even if fuedal attempt its still a nibble at your investor base.

4th you can tell poloniex troll box is closed. The same stupid questions getting asked over and over again with many comments having a negative tone. The coins feel like they are under attack and it is not the 1st time. You can see how good detailed comments from holders and the team get spammed into history. Dirty scum with such tactics but some people have more money than sense and get scared and move money away which just breeds the trolls to hate more. If you made decision to invest maybe you should have more backbone and believe in why you invested..

5 summer is here and people have made good profits being involved with game and most other coins over the year. Average man may skim some profits for vacation. If 10,000 ppl skim $1,000 that's $10mil taken from market cap.

The key is take a breath. If you can't handle the stress / seeing a red day or a red month and this makes you want to panic sell then remember you are not a professional trader. Try a method. Do not look at your investments for 1 month. Take a break. Feel better. In a project like this the longer you can ignore is likely for the best. Try 1 year and maybe pay off your mortgage when you next look  
Professional advisor tells his client an investment is for 3-5 years..90% will not do this. Guess which 10% of investors make the biggest gains eh 😉

Crazy how people take any news that isn't good news as bad news.
It's just news that has zero effect on the project...

Don't forget game and MGO are being set up to be bought via their own shop for actuall game purchases, in game items, esports wagering and more.
People can buy on their phones, tablets etc. through the teams own software. These are real product uses unlike 75-90% of other cryptos.
They will have a much larger number of clients than people who just use exchanges..yet people cry and panic sell because it's not listed on bittrex within a month of launch 😂 
If anything I took the complication with Bittrex as good news. As I understand, this token is so innovative bittrex infrastrucutre couldn't handle it and they need to make changes to accomodate it.

All I wish to add to the recent discussion is that I am not seeing much coverage of this coin in the crypto news like on youtube videos.

The recent announcement is massive with respect to the partnerships made. Maybe GAME are slighlty responsible but I am sure the team doesn't want to be accused of pumping.

Loads of youtubers covering dash and ether etc etc but I'm failing to see people doing news videos about these announcements.

You think the level of investment some people have they would try to spread the good news through important modern media outlets. Afterall youtubers are eager to make content for subs..

The partnerships should really attract some high level smart investments but if the would be investor cannot pick up on the news they will find some information on some other coins.

I'm hopeful of big partnership/s to arrive soon that will push market cap up. Will also push up MGO.

In my opinion GAME should be above Doge at a minimum.
Sad to not see as fast growth as other coins and slipping down the market cap rankings.  Should be in the top 15 within a quarter - fingers crossed.

Agreed. A major signing could see GAME rocket to $1 billion market cap and multiply the current price of GAME by 5x

And $1 billion is still a tiny tiny % of the gaming industry.  A couple of major signings with developers flocking to take advantage of the 90% payments (which really is a no brainer) coupled with an explosive growth in competive e-sports matches with paid rewards (because what gamer doesn't want to earn real money for playing games) really it all sets itself up for a very dominant position in the market with a big price tag.

Can I get a thumbs up?  

2 cubes.

Also believing there is no way all these wants and requests will be filled in 1 order  :-/

If the price broke the $1 mark to $1.10 the coin will struggle to dip under $0.90 again.  The support here will be huge for the day traders swooping in.  It would really need bad news to drop signifigantly down to $0.5.  Always people who reach a target price and take profits accounting for swings.  Maybe get a little more swingy with miners who insta sell rather than hold but that's nothing major.
I can see 1 bad news event but highly doubt it will happen and that would be for the crowd funding of the store to be poor.  I can however already see a lot of support for the crowd funding and this makes me think we could have a good news event in this area.  Over support / massive interest and investment will carry over into a increase in the game coin.  Could maybe see $2 by start of June with such large interest.

To throw a potentially happy huge curve what if this service grows to the point where Apple or google play want to basically buy this store? We know the big guys prefer to buy their competition out rather than compete...
I Wonder how such a buy out would work?

People are trying to sell them for that price but people are not buying them.  I've seen the same ones on ebay since the price increase.
The most expensive sale I knew completed was £2,000 for a quad which is really high compared to Baikals manufactor price but like any business model it's supply and demand and you're gunna pay more to a middle man.    £2,000 still got an okish ROI compared with a BTC miner calculated at the top of the Dash spike so I can see how that sale happened.  They just didn't expect a price drop or gambled the price was gunna keep going.   

I think the x11 community of miners have their eyes more open in terms of ROI experience than a BTC complete newbie and wont fall for paying the silly prices that are floating around the net at the moment.  If you do know anyone paying £10,000 for a quad let me know...(based off a mini on ebay costing £2,500 lololololol)

Just a note on these skype scammers.  They tried it on with me too but I thought it all sounded to shady so I dropped baikal direct emails. 
I must say I am not a fan of how Baikal have reacted - to just point out the correct skype address is a bit poor.  I consider the fact Baikal have just made a new website so why not make the whole payment thing an easier better experience?  I mean by having the site calculate shipping etc and give you a total and a payment address (like bitmain website) This would have killed the scammers off and solved the problem.    If the webite does that then I retract the statement - I missed the stock so I wouldn't know,  just judging by the amount of ppl talking about skype scams.