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Re: How to raise the topic to the first page?
by
The-None-Above-All
on 16/12/2020, 03:47:00 UTC
Hello, how to raise the topic to the first page in Announcements (Altcoins)?
Dont ever use bumping service mate.

Important advice. Bumping "service" is illegitimate. Can get you red trust. Can get you in trouble with the moderators for violation of forum rules.

Always follow forum rules.

Never spam!

PS, cryptoaddictchie, please don't make gray text in quotes. It makes the small text in quotes even harder to read!
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Re: Some important bitcointalk [GUIDE] for beginners.
by
The-None-Above-All
on 16/12/2020, 03:39:25 UTC
Why do we need spamlists of threads, when Beginners & Help has a sticky guide to help find important threads?

The sticky guide has links to forum rules, newbie technical help, and links to wallets thread, important advice about trust, important security advice, warnings about malware, glossary of forum terminology, and many other important threads... and many of these threads link to other threads, with even more detailed information. Most of these important threads are not even linked here. Did OP see all of them?

Oh, but this list has links to Defi guides, Uniswap, and other scams/scam-laden environments so that Newbies can get scammed better. Angry

Advice for Newbies: Avoid Defi like plague! If you don't know why, ask in the Wall Observer.
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Re: Some advice for Newbies.
by
The-None-Above-All
on 16/12/2020, 03:38:10 UTC
I am a Newbie.  So I know how many problems a newbie can face.  So I would like to give some advice to the newcomer from this little knowledge of mine.
 1.  First of all you are newbie, you know nothing about this forum.  So you have to have a lot of interest to know about this forum.
There are few newbies who actually know more than most of people on here, they are only "lurking" on this forum. They only didn't interact with people too much.

This is absolutely true.

Regular posters often forget that probably most readership is lurkers, and passers-by. Forum regulars are only the tip of the iceberg for readership.

If you forget this, you can look like a fool! Don't forget your audience.

Some case examples:

This forum has high rank in search engines, links from Bitcoin Wiki, etc. Anyone who reads about Bitcoin, will read some from this forum.

When nullius was a Newbie, he was immediately accused of being old regular's alt account.  LOL.  Much speculation, many conspiracy theories.  He lurked for years before registering.  (Then lurked 8 more months before posting.)

I know some guy who has a Newbie account with 3 posts. He has lurked for years. He knows this forum better than 99% of regulars. Just does not talk.

Most casual readers, occasional lurkers, and passers-by probably never even register an account.

To be a forum regular is a sort of a lifestyle - and it is a huge time sink. Not for everyone.

And my #1 advice to Newbies: Lurk more! Only talk if you have something to say. Don't make a post only to make a post. (Sigspammers and bounty chasers, please smash your computers with sledgehammer.)

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5.  Legendary members are very helpful.  So don't miss any of their replays.  Missing it will probably deprive you of much to learn.
Not all, there are few who only shitpost. That's why i said don't rely/depends too much with the post from high ranked account.

Many "Legendary" only shitpost. Also, many are hacked/bought account. If you see "Legendary" with bad behavior, look for the red trust!

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7. You can also learn more about Bitcoin with the help of internet
Yeah, i do believe most of people doing this instead reading books.

Sad

He's right about following up with hero & legendary members in this forum, the informations they give will really help in enlightening your knowledge as newbie.
Maybe following sticky threads should be more helpful to know more about this forum while we are still new on this forum

YES! This. Thank you. Finally some good advice...
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Re: Covid Decoherence: Schrödinger’s Virus (I forgot to change the title back)
by
The-None-Above-All
on 08/12/2020, 02:16:47 UTC
Damn! I lost a leg in an unfortunate boating accident.

SKAM ! Shocked

In Anatomy 101 class , they are supposed to teach you the difference between legs and arms .

I bet you also not knowing latest advances in quantum sociovirology .
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Re: Giving merit to newbies for good replies
by
The-None-Above-All
on 07/12/2020, 09:56:00 UTC
As noble as you're idea may be - and I really do believe it is -, it's probably not the best one. I've seen a lot of newbies recently who've gotten Merits for a few posts here and there, where the Meriter hadn't really looked any deeper in the newbie's post history. As soon as these guys reach Jr. or Member level, they join a campaign, at which point they start flooding the forum with spam. I don't have to tell you that many of them are here for one reason only: bounties.

I'd warmly recommend you to do at least a minimal quick check of the poster's history to make sure it's not a complete shitposting spammer who had one lucky shot. Otherwise, you might be unwillingly sponsoring a (future) spammer.

Very true. Always check post history! Especially with Newbies, but not only! Every experienced user should know this.

Also, it is usually unwise to send more than 1 merit at a time to Newbie - it is risky. Newbie does not have much history for you to judge. Merit thresholds for ranking up are way too low. Spammer needs only a little bit of merit for reaching Member or Full Member, way too easy - then he can make money by filling the forum with trash. Only send >1 merit per post to Newbie if it very much looks like not a spammer.

Well - I will try this.

My best posts are, in my opinion, my "artistic" posts. But maybe not to everyone's taste.

I think so far, my best post of general interest was the post that earned the very first merit for my account. However, I do not want to ask for any merit for it. I am proud it got 2 merits from 2 different people, only because it is a good post - not because of asking for anything. Please don't ruin it.

hatshepsut93, you participated in that topic. I replied to you several times there. Is it not wrong to ask you to consider meriting a post you saw, which you did not already merit? Isn't merit system working best when you see good post in the course of discussion, and you send it merit because you think it is good?

For same reason - I will not ask you to consider this post and this post in the same topic - two more of my best, both of which received merit from people who just thought they were good.

I think that this post deserves at least 50 merits - for reason that it shows I am not trying to rank up to spam the forum:

Re: How you can earn money from bitcointalk.org?
WHY THERE IS SPAM, ILLUSTRATED

This gets 0 merit, and people argue against it, and arguments against it get merit from big name accounts:

Bounty campaign is not worth it, only wasting your time with worthless coins, avoid it.

Keep in mind, signature campaign is only a bonus from your dedication to forum... similar like people give merit (bonus) on a high quality post.

It is correct.

If you're ONLY here, or MAINLY here for signature campaign, then you should go away. You are spammer.

Everybody should stay away from the shitcoin bounties.

OP gets 9 merit by focusing users on rank and merit, and sending them to chase shitcoin bounties, spam campaigns, and scams: Roll Eyes

Signature campaign:
You can earn money weekly by participating in the signature campaign. However, most signature campaigns do not accept low rank profile. That's why you need to rank up your profile. If you want to rank up the profile, you have to earn merit.
You can visit the following thread to know more about this....
Merit & new rank requirements

Bounty campaign:
You can earn some money by participating in the bounty campaign. But for this you have to be very patient. Because after a bounty campaign for a certain period of time, the payment is too late and low. Some campaigns will not pay you. But for a low rank profile, bounty can be a good way to make money.
You can visit the following thread to know more about this...
Bounties (Altcoins) <<<EDITOR NOTE: worst spam source, all users there should be banned>>>

"SHUT UP AND EAT YOUR SPAM!"

OP is very wrong.

If good user here for discussion, then rank up and merit will happen naturally. Don't even think about how to do it! (unless, lolz, you are like me, Newbie want to post noncommercial images with no paying for Copper account... stupid restrictions only made because of spammers and other abusers! Less than 24 hours after signup, I already got 1 merit I need... this is my 14th post, next activity period starts in hour and a half... I will post images freely, starting in about two weeks from now. Cheesy)

Best users are those who DO NOT CARE too much about mere status symbols = rank and merit. (Same like in the rest of life.)

I decided now I want 100 merits, so I can have avatar. AVATAR NOT FOR RENT. I want to put a censored version of fine art there, to make a point about freedom and culture. Or maybe something else... I did not decide yet.
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Re: Another fake electrum wallet on google playstore
by
The-None-Above-All
on 07/12/2020, 09:18:06 UTC
-snip-
Downloading the original electrum from electrum.org is the best rather than using third party sites like Google playstore to download it for not to download the fake ones.
Download the Android version of Electrum that matches the smartphone specifications (armeabi/arm64) from the official site:
https://electrum.org/#download; https://download.electrum.org/

Also, verify the PGP signature and make sure it matches ThomasV's public key or fingerprint:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/spesmilo/electrum/master/pubkeys/ThomasV.asc
As an example:

https://i.imgur.com/A8GLTMK.png

After that, install the Electrum APK file manually on the Android smartphone.

THIS! Thank you. Even in case Electrum website is hacked (hypothetical), checking the PGP signature will save your security.

Also I see 2 different topics about fake Electrums in Google Store on front page of Beginners & Help now. There is so much fake software. If new topic for each one, it will be a whole forum.
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Re: Reeeeeeeeee: nullius is a cunt (suchmoon's original troll topic title)
by
The-None-Above-All
on 07/12/2020, 08:40:20 UTC
suchmoon made misleading sneaky edits to OP!

"your post must be about nullius being a cunt."
https://archive.is/OK3PQ#selection-539.41-539.86

"your post must be about nullius' reputation or lack thereof."
https://archive.is/p6gos#selection-573.41-573.101

https://i.imgur.com/MeMYN6N.png
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
by
The-None-Above-All
on 04/12/2020, 01:03:59 UTC

I hope he knows to tell between different cryptocurrencies. Tongue


@xhomerx10, this is for you with onomastics and weird associations:

https://i.imgur.com/urt3OG6.jpg
(if you understand this pic, you = nerd)

amazing coincidence. must be a conspiracy.


<<<...discussion of how Benz has been banned as NSFW...>>>

It is only illegal if you get caught  Wink

on teh interwebz, u r supposed to add: "...but IANAL"
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Re: [WO] You cunt, it is Nullian law that you must set a witty post title!
by
The-None-Above-All
on 04/12/2020, 00:08:50 UTC
Ah, the secret to forum happiness.

https://i.imgur.com/X56n1c4.png

What was that, OutOfMemory? Tongue
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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
by
The-None-Above-All
on 03/12/2020, 19:21:15 UTC
Keiner über Alles ! Hail Nemesis, the sister of discord !

It is the wrath of Nemesis who punish Narcissus !

<snip...juvenile nonsense>

wtf is wrong with you?

I am shorting at high leverage sirazimuth's maturity level. Observing a sell wall at age 13, trend headed for age 8 in my most bullish estimation of his bullshit. Roll Eyes

Reeeeeeeeee: nullius is a cunt (suchmoon's original troll topic title)
Re: Reeeeeeeeee: fart jokes (post title)
oh fun, fun, fun! Does this mean I can segue into fart jokes without being ot?. I just love fart jokes...

As long as these are nullius' farts or farts of people whom nullius has a conflict with (i.e. nearly everyone) - it's almost on topic.

You sniff Lord Nullius' farts on a topic titled "Reeeeeeeeee: nullius is a cunt", you call *ME* juvenile, and then you run away!?

Pussy! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Nemesis Adrestia , Nemesis Erinys , goddess of Vengeance , like Atë shall punish the shameless tongue !
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4985868.msg55650473#post_achill

ps God-Emperor Nullius , pls dont post Michelangelo's rendition of Leda and the Swan. u may be BANED ! Michelangelo painting of nude woman being fucked by a bird may perhaps be NSFW ? Huh :\'(
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Re: The forum software defames people due to poor design. When's the fix coming?
by
The-None-Above-All
on 03/12/2020, 18:02:30 UTC
A challenge to OP:  Continue this discussion using your main account!  It will actually upset suchmoon.

QFT!

OP, your main account does not currently show me any warning banners on your threads—not the red banner, and not the yellow newbie warning banner from a logged-out browser.  I don’t know why...  Have you checked recently?

Actually it does show the banner but the thread need to be in a board where feedback is visible, like this one

Nullius is Like an absent-minded Professor sometimes, with n00b mistakes. SURELY he knew that. Roll Eyes

I say this as #0 Nullius Fan. Keiner über Alles!

For my part , I thank you for eXplaining so everyone can better learn how the system works .

I guess deep inside every rational human being there's a troll... or was it the other way around... inside every troll there's a human...  Huh you get the point !

Yes, good point ! Cheesy
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Re: [Merit] Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message?
by
The-None-Above-All
on 03/12/2020, 04:29:34 UTC
I think I miss your attention
please sir, consider my application.

You used the Electrum signing format. Not compatible with OgNasty's software. Very usual mistake of Newbies - even some very smarter smartest Newbies make this mistake, I have seen.

Standardization of message signing for Segwit "bc1..." addresses is a work in progress.

Signmessage doesn't work with segwit addresses
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10542

BIP 322: Generic Signed Message Format (Status: Draft)
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0322.mediawiki

Electrum issue: Segwit message signing is not compatible with other software
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/3861

Mailing list discussion:
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-December/015374.html

Also, maybe instead of try three times the same thing, there may be better way... Like, give the message a massage, see if makes happy.

Quote for reference:

Code:
Address: bc1qmmvqgs832fu8r2ys9gv5dyjs5zum9t49t5m83g
Message: I'm CoinPeer and I can sign a massage
Signature: ICukP1VITZ/rPvaezyzfm7VCWacJ3Za2SYB8Q/DZFnDdZJZZT0rbgrUfDVwAcHW2AoQXR/ha1xGyj6eX5socY9I=

Reapply

I think I miss your attention
please sir, consider my application.
May be I'm ignored
Code:
Address: bc1qh4j92y92hhcmusj2qalujcd9xucvuu7gas63g0
Message: I'm CoinPeer and I can sign a massage.
Signature: IJkNiBu5mA16EwzLJTUQ+IFFHhrFT4tYFlmXQUC1L7ojVdrPyz5BgzCKTngTUhbP4FqsNKApIqZpzf9jlEHeniw=
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Re: To newcomers: make sure when you buy bitcoin you are buying bitcoin!
by
The-None-Above-All
on 03/12/2020, 03:58:10 UTC
⭐ Merited by o_e_l_e_o (2)
Note: A longer version of the following was deleted three times by moderators. I now cut the scam documentation below, on hypothesis that something in it triggered a spam filter bot (probably necessary - and I think deletion was faster than humans report or respond).

My apologies for the noise, for those who get new posts mailed. I had "*" all PM blocked, so I didn't realize - that is why I reposted. The first time, I thought I must have hit the delete button by accident when trying to edit, correct quoting mistake. After repost disappeared, I unblocked PM, tried again, got PM notice and confirmed in modlog.

It is not only about Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.
Sure, there are plenty of bitcoin forks out there, but the difference is that none of them pretend to be BTC like BCash does. Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Private, even Bitcoin SV to an extent, present and market themselves as different coins. Even although Bitcoin SV falsely claims to be the original implementation of bitcoin, it doesn't pretend to be BTC.

Unfortunately, in the substance, BSV is even worse than BCH. They don't claim to be "BTC". They claim that BTC is a scam, there is only one Bitcoin, the one and only Bitcoin is BSV. How far they go turning truth to lies, lies to truth? They present Faketoshi as a reluctant hero, returned to save Bitcoin from the BTC fake-coin scammers. "After a period of denial, Dr. Wright admitted that he is Satoshi Nakamoto" - see below.

BCH is bad enough scam, exploiting Roger Ver registration of bitcoin dot com domain. BSV is badder, bolder, more brazen.

BSV propaganda turns everything upside-down and inside-out. The BSV scammers accuse others of their own wrongdoing. They say that BTC is the scam, BSV is the real Bitcoin by "Dr. Craig Wright a.k.a. Satoshi Nakamoto".

note: next activity period begins 2020-12-16T03:40:00Z. After this, I will make Jr. so my embedded images will show! For now, I ask to people >= Jr. Member rank: please Sir, quote me so others can see the important images.

This is cropped from a BSV propaganda image, displayed in full below, I found on the BSV shill thread:
https://i.imgur.com/HUwSXQt.jpg

As you can see, not only it claims BSV is Bitcoin. It claims that BTC is *not* Bitcoin. They say that BSV is the one and only real Bitcoin, on authority of (fake) Satoshi Nakamoto himself.

On the main BSV shill thread on this forum, they also have a small army of sockpuppet shill accounts... who accuse everybody else of being sockpuppet "trolls". I have seen BitcoinFX, Cryptotourist, JayJuanGee, and nullius all accused of being sockpuppets of the same "troll". If o_e_l_e_o posts in that thread, he will immediately be called sockpuppet of nullius, inter alia. It shows the extremes of BSV total inversion of the truth. Same as they do with identifying "real Bitcoin".

The following excerpt from a much longer post was selected carefully by me. Please read it carefully to understand how deeply, subtly insidious this propaganda is. Text size is in the BSV post.
...snnnnniiiippp...
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Re: To newcomers: make sure when you buy bitcoin you are buying bitcoin!
by
The-None-Above-All
on 03/12/2020, 03:14:17 UTC
It is not only about Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.
Sure, there are plenty of bitcoin forks out there, but the difference is that none of them pretend to be BTC like BCash does. Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Private, even Bitcoin SV to an extent, present and market themselves as different coins. Even although Bitcoin SV falsely claims to be the original implementation of bitcoin, it doesn't pretend to be BTC.

Unfortunately, in the substance, BSV is even worse than BCH. They don't claim to be "BTC". They claim that BTC is a scam, there is only one Bitcoin, the one and only Bitcoin is BSV. How far they go turning truth to lies, lies to truth? They present Faketoshi as a reluctant hero, returned to save Bitcoin from the BTC fake-coin scammers. "After a period of denial, Dr. Wright admitted that he is Satoshi Nakamoto" - see below.

BCH is bad enough scam, exploiting Roger Ver registration of bitcoin dot com domain. BSV is badder, bolder, more brazen.

BSV propaganda turns everything upside-down and inside-out. The BSV scammers accuse others of their own wrongdoing. They say that BTC is the scam, BSV is the real Bitcoin by "Dr. Craig Wright a.k.a. Satoshi Nakamoto".

note: next activity period begins 2020-12-16T03:40:00Z. After this, I will make Jr. so my embedded images will show! For now, I ask to people >= Jr. Member rank: please Sir, quote me so others can see the important images.

This is cropped from a BSV propaganda image, displayed in full below, I found on the BSV shill thread:
https://i.imgur.com/HUwSXQt.jpg

As you can see, not only it claims BSV is Bitcoin. It claims that BTC is *not* Bitcoin. They say that BSV is the one and only real Bitcoin, on authority of (fake) Satoshi Nakamoto himself.

On the main BSV shill thread on this forum, they also have a small army of sockpuppet shill accounts... who accuse everybody else of being sockpuppet "trolls". I have seen BitcoinFX, Cryptotourist, JayJuanGee, and nullius all accused of being sockpuppets of the same "troll". If o_e_l_e_o posts in that thread, he will immediately be called sockpuppet of nullius, inter alia. It shows the extremes of BSV total inversion of the truth. Same as they do with identifying "real Bitcoin".

The following excerpt from a much longer post was selected carefully by me. Please read it carefully to understand how deeply, subtly insidious this propaganda is. Text size is in the BSV post.
The image is my copy saved from https://cms.bitcoinsv.com//uploads/6703cb96dc5b4606a0bff56e9296adc8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6P8Yu8C.jpg

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Fraud of the century?

This post originally appeared on the Unbounded Capital website https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/fraud-of-the-century and we republished with permission from Jack Laskey.

The degree to which accusations of fraud are flung around the Bitcoin world is disappointing. The price of this confusion will be felt acutely by few, but will impact far more through its delay of a transformative technology’s progress. Unfortunate as it may be, there is no doubt that fraud exists. Of course, scams of various sorts have been a constant feature of the early Bitcoin/blockchain industry, an industry that is very attractive to the “fast money” crowd. But, none of these are the fraud of the century.

There is only one candidate for fraud of the century, and it isn’t Dr. Craig Wright. For those new to this controversy, Dr. Craig Wright is an Australian computer security expert and polymath who was outed at Satoshi Nakamotohttps://coingeek.com/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto/, the creator of Bitcoin, in 2015  by Wired and Gizmodo magazineshttps://gizmodo.com/heres-all-the-evidence-that-craig-wright-invented-bitco-1747059371. After a period of denial, Dr. Wright admitted that he is Satoshi Nakamoto [Suspicious link removed]j.com/articles/craig-wright-says-he-will-prove-he-is-bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-1462309228[/url]. However, for a number of reasons of varying feasibility, the broader Bitcoin community rejected his claim emphatically. He is widely believed to be a fraud, and his current focus, Bitcoin SV, an alternative version of Bitcoin which has pivoted back to the original design and away from dominant version BTC, is often labeled a scam.

I’ve made it clear in other writings https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters that I believe the majority is mistaken and that Dr. Craig Wright is almost certainly Satoshi Nakamoto. I see the evidence for dwarfing the evidence against. Further, I don’t see the incentive to perpetrate such a fraud, but I do see the incentive to have taken Dr. Wright’s actions to this point if Dr. Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto. There is historical precedent to this scenario https://equitydiamonds.medium.com/three-wrights-dont-make-a-wrong-a37ea19ed636. When the Wright brothers (not related) invented the airplane, they were widely disbelieved. They used this window to continue building and testing in private while patenting key technologies https://patents.justia.com/assignee/nchain-holdings-limited. Dr. Wright has used this window of disbelief to patent well over 1,000 Bitcoin related technologies. His firm nChain https://nchain.com/ seeks to hold more patents than any company in existence.

Regardless, the magnitude of Dr. Wright’s alleged fraud is pedestrian compared to his counter-accusation. Pretending to be Satoshi Nakamoto is certainly an oddity, especially for such a long time and in the face of such derision https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/bc7j9m/craig_wright_is_a_fraud_hoaxer_a_reminder_for/. And, while the upside of such a fraud for Dr. Wright and his alleged conspirators is unclear, there certainly would be a number of victims who made personal and financial arrangements based on the belief that Dr. Wright would be vindicated in his claim, myself included.

The candidate for fraud of the century is not Dr. Wright but those accusing him of fraud—and not simply because they are likely mistaken.

...



Top image: https://i.ibb.co/dg1yH14/bsv-lol088.jpg
Bottom image (source of above cropped excerpt): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnaUYG5WMAE0J_N?format=jpg&name=large

BCH is total scam. BSV is ultra extreme superscam. Bad and worse. Naive investors and new users need to be informed to protect themselves against both.
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Re: To newcomers: make sure when you buy bitcoin you are buying bitcoin!
by
The-None-Above-All
on 03/12/2020, 03:08:58 UTC
It is not only about Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.
Sure, there are plenty of bitcoin forks out there, but the difference is that none of them pretend to be BTC like BCash does. Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Private, even Bitcoin SV to an extent, present and market themselves as different coins. Even although Bitcoin SV falsely claims to be the original implementation of bitcoin, it doesn't pretend to be BTC.

Unfortunately, in the substance, BSV is even worse than BCH. They don't claim to be "BTC". They claim that BTC is a scam, there is only one Bitcoin, the one and only Bitcoin is BSV. How far they go turning truth to lies, lies to truth? They present Faketoshi as a reluctant hero, returned to save Bitcoin from the BTC fake-coin scammers. "After a period of denial, Dr. Wright admitted that he is Satoshi Nakamoto" - see below.

BCH is bad enough scam, exploiting Roger Ver registration of bitcoin dot com domain. BSV is badder, bolder, more brazen.

BSV propaganda turns everything upside-down and inside-out. The BSV scammers accuse others of their own wrongdoing. They say that BTC is the scam, BSV is the real Bitcoin by "Dr. Craig Wright a.k.a. Satoshi Nakamoto".

note: next activity period begins 2020-12-16T03:40:00Z. After this, I will make Jr. so my embedded images will show! For now, I ask to people >= Jr. Member rank: please Sir, quote me so others can see the important images.

This is cropped from a BSV propaganda image, displayed in full below, I found on the BSV shill thread:
https://i.imgur.com/HUwSXQt.jpg

As you can see, not only it claims BSV is Bitcoin. It claims that BTC is *not* Bitcoin. They say that BSV is the one and only real Bitcoin, on authority of (fake) Satoshi Nakamoto himself.

On the main BSV shill thread on this forum, they also have a small army of sockpuppet shill accounts... who accuse everybody else of being sockpuppet "trolls". I have seen BitcoinFX, Cryptotourist, JayJuanGee, and nullius all accused of being sockpuppets of the same "troll". If o_e_l_e_o posts in that thread, he will immediately be called sockpuppet of nullius, inter alia. It shows the extremes of BSV total inversion of the truth. Same as they do with identifying "real Bitcoin".

The following excerpt from a much longer post was selected carefully by me. Please read it carefully to understand how deeply, subtly insidious this propaganda is. Text size is in the BSV post.
The image is my copy saved from https://cms.bitcoinsv.com//uploads/6703cb96dc5b4606a0bff56e9296adc8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6P8Yu8C.jpg

...

Quote
Fraud of the century?

This post originally appeared on the Unbounded Capital website https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/fraud-of-the-century and we republished with permission from Jack Laskey.

The degree to which accusations of fraud are flung around the Bitcoin world is disappointing. The price of this confusion will be felt acutely by few, but will impact far more through its delay of a transformative technology’s progress. Unfortunate as it may be, there is no doubt that fraud exists. Of course, scams of various sorts have been a constant feature of the early Bitcoin/blockchain industry, an industry that is very attractive to the “fast money” crowd. But, none of these are the fraud of the century.

There is only one candidate for fraud of the century, and it isn’t Dr. Craig Wright. For those new to this controversy, Dr. Craig Wright is an Australian computer security expert and polymath who was outed at Satoshi Nakamotohttps://coingeek.com/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto/, the creator of Bitcoin, in 2015  by Wired and Gizmodo magazineshttps://gizmodo.com/heres-all-the-evidence-that-craig-wright-invented-bitco-1747059371. After a period of denial, Dr. Wright admitted that he is Satoshi Nakamoto [Suspicious link removed]j.com/articles/craig-wright-says-he-will-prove-he-is-bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-1462309228[/url]. However, for a number of reasons of varying feasibility, the broader Bitcoin community rejected his claim emphatically. He is widely believed to be a fraud, and his current focus, Bitcoin SV, an alternative version of Bitcoin which has pivoted back to the original design and away from dominant version BTC, is often labeled a scam.

I’ve made it clear in other writings https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters that I believe the majority is mistaken and that Dr. Craig Wright is almost certainly Satoshi Nakamoto. I see the evidence for dwarfing the evidence against. Further, I don’t see the incentive to perpetrate such a fraud, but I do see the incentive to have taken Dr. Wright’s actions to this point if Dr. Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto. There is historical precedent to this scenario https://equitydiamonds.medium.com/three-wrights-dont-make-a-wrong-a37ea19ed636. When the Wright brothers (not related) invented the airplane, they were widely disbelieved. They used this window to continue building and testing in private while patenting key technologies https://patents.justia.com/assignee/nchain-holdings-limited. Dr. Wright has used this window of disbelief to patent well over 1,000 Bitcoin related technologies. His firm nChain https://nchain.com/ seeks to hold more patents than any company in existence.

Regardless, the magnitude of Dr. Wright’s alleged fraud is pedestrian compared to his counter-accusation. Pretending to be Satoshi Nakamoto is certainly an oddity, especially for such a long time and in the face of such derision https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/bc7j9m/craig_wright_is_a_fraud_hoaxer_a_reminder_for/. And, while the upside of such a fraud for Dr. Wright and his alleged conspirators is unclear, there certainly would be a number of victims who made personal and financial arrangements based on the belief that Dr. Wright would be vindicated in his claim, myself included.

The candidate for fraud of the century is not Dr. Wright but those accusing him of fraud—and not simply because they are likely mistaken.

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Top image: https://i.ibb.co/dg1yH14/bsv-lol088.jpg
Bottom image (source of above cropped excerpt): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnaUYG5WMAE0J_N?format=jpg&name=large

BCH is total scam. BSV is ultra extreme superscam. Bad and worse. Naive investors and new users need to be informed to protect themselves against both.
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Re: To newcomers: make sure when you buy bitcoin you are buying bitcoin!
by
The-None-Above-All
on 03/12/2020, 03:07:32 UTC
It is not only about Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.
Sure, there are plenty of bitcoin forks out there, but the difference is that none of them pretend to be BTC like BCash does. Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Private, even Bitcoin SV to an extent, present and market themselves as different coins. Even although Bitcoin SV falsely claims to be the original implementation of bitcoin, it doesn't pretend to be BTC.
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Unfortunately, in the substance, BSV is even worse than BCH. They don't claim to be "BTC". They claim that BTC is a scam, there is only one Bitcoin, the one and only Bitcoin is BSV. How far they go turning truth to lies, lies to truth? They present Faketoshi as a reluctant hero, returned to save Bitcoin from the BTC fake-coin scammers. "After a period of denial, Dr. Wright admitted that he is Satoshi Nakamoto" - see below.

BCH is bad enough scam, exploiting Roger Ver registration of bitcoin dot com domain. BSV is badder, bolder, more brazen.

BSV propaganda turns everything upside-down and inside-out. The BSV scammers accuse others of their own wrongdoing. They say that BTC is the scam, BSV is the real Bitcoin by "Dr. Craig Wright a.k.a. Satoshi Nakamoto".

note: next activity period begins 2020-12-16T03:40:00Z. After this, I will make Jr. so my embedded images will show! For now, I ask to people >= Jr. Member rank: please Sir, quote me so others can see the important images.

This is cropped from a BSV propaganda image, displayed in full below, I found on the BSV shill thread:
https://i.imgur.com/HUwSXQt.jpg

As you can see, not only it claims BSV is Bitcoin. It claims that BTC is *not* Bitcoin. They say that BSV is the one and only real Bitcoin, on authority of (fake) Satoshi Nakamoto himself.

On the main BSV shill thread on this forum, they also have a small army of sockpuppet shill accounts... who accuse everybody else of being sockpuppet "trolls". I have seen BitcoinFX, Cryptotourist, JayJuanGee, and nullius all accused of being sockpuppets of the same "troll". If o_e_l_e_o posts in that thread, he will immediately be called sockpuppet of nullius, inter alia. It shows the extremes of BSV total inversion of the truth. Same as they do with identifying "real Bitcoin".

The following excerpt from a much longer post was selected carefully by me. Please read it carefully to understand how deeply, subtly insidious this propaganda is. Text size is in the BSV post.
The image is my copy saved from https://cms.bitcoinsv.com//uploads/6703cb96dc5b4606a0bff56e9296adc8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6P8Yu8C.jpg

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Fraud of the century?

This post originally appeared on the Unbounded Capital website https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/fraud-of-the-century and we republished with permission from Jack Laskey.

The degree to which accusations of fraud are flung around the Bitcoin world is disappointing. The price of this confusion will be felt acutely by few, but will impact far more through its delay of a transformative technology’s progress. Unfortunate as it may be, there is no doubt that fraud exists. Of course, scams of various sorts have been a constant feature of the early Bitcoin/blockchain industry, an industry that is very attractive to the “fast money” crowd. But, none of these are the fraud of the century.

There is only one candidate for fraud of the century, and it isn’t Dr. Craig Wright. For those new to this controversy, Dr. Craig Wright is an Australian computer security expert and polymath who was outed at Satoshi Nakamotohttps://coingeek.com/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto/, the creator of Bitcoin, in 2015  by Wired and Gizmodo magazineshttps://gizmodo.com/heres-all-the-evidence-that-craig-wright-invented-bitco-1747059371. After a period of denial, Dr. Wright admitted that he is Satoshi Nakamoto [Suspicious link removed]j.com/articles/craig-wright-says-he-will-prove-he-is-bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-1462309228[/url]. However, for a number of reasons of varying feasibility, the broader Bitcoin community rejected his claim emphatically. He is widely believed to be a fraud, and his current focus, Bitcoin SV, an alternative version of Bitcoin which has pivoted back to the original design and away from dominant version BTC, is often labeled a scam.

I’ve made it clear in other writings https://unboundedcapital.com/blog/why-we-think-craig-wright-is-satoshi-and-why-that-matters that I believe the majority is mistaken and that Dr. Craig Wright is almost certainly Satoshi Nakamoto. I see the evidence for dwarfing the evidence against. Further, I don’t see the incentive to perpetrate such a fraud, but I do see the incentive to have taken Dr. Wright’s actions to this point if Dr. Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto. There is historical precedent to this scenario https://equitydiamonds.medium.com/three-wrights-dont-make-a-wrong-a37ea19ed636. When the Wright brothers (not related) invented the airplane, they were widely disbelieved. They used this window to continue building and testing in private while patenting key technologies https://patents.justia.com/assignee/nchain-holdings-limited. Dr. Wright has used this window of disbelief to patent well over 1,000 Bitcoin related technologies. His firm nChain https://nchain.com/ seeks to hold more patents than any company in existence.

Regardless, the magnitude of Dr. Wright’s alleged fraud is pedestrian compared to his counter-accusation. Pretending to be Satoshi Nakamoto is certainly an oddity, especially for such a long time and in the face of such derision https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/bc7j9m/craig_wright_is_a_fraud_hoaxer_a_reminder_for/. And, while the upside of such a fraud for Dr. Wright and his alleged conspirators is unclear, there certainly would be a number of victims who made personal and financial arrangements based on the belief that Dr. Wright would be vindicated in his claim, myself included.

The candidate for fraud of the century is not Dr. Wright but those accusing him of fraud—and not simply because they are likely mistaken.

...



Top image: https://i.ibb.co/dg1yH14/bsv-lol088.jpg
Bottom image (source of above cropped excerpt): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnaUYG5WMAE0J_N?format=jpg&name=large

BCH is total scam. BSV is ultra extreme superscam. Bad and worse. Naive investors and new users need to be informed to protect themselves against both.
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Re: To newcomers: make sure when you buy bitcoin you are buying bitcoin!
by
The-None-Above-All
on 02/12/2020, 15:30:08 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1) ,Yogee (1)
see:
http://cypherspace.org/CPL/

We could argue about this if it's good or bad, but I am not interested.
All I can derive from the site you linked is "open source" so no argument needed there.

It is much more than that.

Cypherpunks Public License is from cypherpunks, a part of the history leading up to Bitcoin. For more general information, see: Bitcoin: The dream of Cypherpunks, libertarians and crypto-anarchists

On the topic here: "Open source" is often copyrighted. Bitcoin source code is MIT licensed. Legally, it is copyrighted code.

CPL is not directly applicable to Bitcoin. But in the abstract, it shows concepts that answer the question of who can defend the Bitcoin name. Nobody controls Bitcoin. There is no legal Bitcoin trademark, and no entity with proprietary right to hold a trademark on the name "Bitcoin".

It would be dangerous if such an entity existed. Craig Wright has tried fraudulently claiming copyright of Bitcoin source code. If he could, he would probably claim trademark on "Bitcoin" name for his scam.

I myself disagree with CPL in some parts. But it succinctly summarizes the key concepts here.

the site you linked

Not a random site. It is the old personal website of Adam Back, the inventor of Hashcash (as cited in the Bitcoin Whitepaper, footnote 6). There is stuff there very interesting to history that led to the creation of Bitcoin.
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Re: Reeeeeeeeee: nullius is a cunt (suchmoon's original troll topic title)
by
The-None-Above-All
on 02/12/2020, 14:55:47 UTC
<snip...juvenile nonsense>

wtf is wrong with you?

wtf is wrong with YOU!?

"juvenile nonsense" is making fart jokes to support shit-stirring suchmoon troll thread titled, "Reeeeeeeeee: nullius is a cunt"

for SHAME, sirazimuth, you have mental level of middleschooler:

oh fun, fun, fun! Does this mean I can segue into fart jokes without being ot?. I just love fart jokes...

As long as these are nullius' farts or farts of people whom nullius has a conflict with (i.e. nearly everyone) - it's almost on topic.

very MATURE. surely, you are Mature Ethical Expert like suchmoon. Roll Eyes

suchmoon is a troll. this is a troll thread. it is 100% "juvenile nonsense" as smear attack against one of the forum's best members.

no rules here other than your post must be about nullius being a cunt.
I updated the OP slightly to allow people to call nullius other names, not just a cunt. Enjoy.

^^^ Exhibits 3-4: TROLL

Nullius is Very Wise, this is quotable:


What, are the two of you eight years old?  Will you next blow me a raspberry and say, “nyah, nyah”?
—Thus, I am hereby communicating at the mental and cultural level of the audience for this thread, similarly as I told peloso:

Eдинcтвeнный oтвeт, кoтopoгo вы зacлyживaeтe, тaк кaк oн мoжeт быть вocпpинят тoлькo нa вaшeм ypoвнe кyльтypы и интeллeктa:  Cocи xyй.

on that note...

FUCK YOU BITCH !

Nerds, spoiling the fun.

nullious hides many secrets in his Posts, much subtler than the VERY OBVIOUS Miss Miggs/Lechter/Dickens/cunt thing. it is coded message for elite High Wisdom readers, who can see it and smile.

a Professor of Textual Criticism could advance the state of the art with academic papers about Nullius Posts!

Illiterate n00bs see nothing. It would be a shame to explain.

case in point of "shame":

hacker1001101001 , you shitcoin spammer Imbecile ,, you are hypocrite with double standards supporting suchmoon attack on nullius for calling out suchmoon double standards. suchmoon enforces her local rules on her threads. suchmoon defies nullius rules on nullius threads. suchmoon thinks the rules do not apply to her, and calls nullius "a cunt" for standing up against her hypocrisy.

suchmoon = hypocrite, you (hacker1001101001) = double hypocrite with ultra subjective standards, both = corruptly milking this forum for every satoshi . the only reason why you are not sigspamming like suchmoon is you are sigbanned plagiarist . CH should kick your ass !


also, [size=100pt]I am not named after "The-One-Above-All"!!![/size]

https://i.imgur.com/v8hj0fh.png

"A Book for All and None" If it was not pointed out above, Nobody on this suchmoon troll thread would have noticed. alles of you = IDIOTS

The-None-Above-All is copycat of Nullius joke based on Nietzsche. It is inside joke of smart people who read Nullius posts .It needs Latin, German , and Englisch to understand . "nullius", "keiner", "none".

The anthem of Terra Nullius: "Keiner, keiner, über alles!" = "none, none above all!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_nullius

Nullius is the Glorious Leader of Terra Nullius, population: 0. By law, every citizen of Terra Nullius must sing "keiner, keiner, über alleS," or else be slapped with a large trout. None Above All!

The Great Seal of Terra Nullius (nullius avatar, now censored due to sexual implications of the Eternal Cunt) is also All and None. Also sprach Nullius.

cRyptohUnter hates Nietzsche. CH must be a closeted homosexual, given his mental fixation on anal felching. Nietzsche does not like to think about anal felching.

fUCKING hELL, NOW i NEED TO DEMAND tHERMOS FOR A NAME CHANGE OF MY VERY VALUABLE ACCOUNT!!

so sad. as a Brand New registration , i did not realize there is ch alt with similar name. Embarrassed
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Re: How you can earn money from bitcointalk.org?
by
The-None-Above-All
on 02/12/2020, 02:02:32 UTC
WHY THERE IS SPAM, ILLUSTRATED

This gets 0 merit, and people argue against it, and arguments against it get merit from big name accounts:

Bounty campaign is not worth it, only wasting your time with worthless coins, avoid it.

Keep in mind, signature campaign is only a bonus from your dedication to forum... similar like people give merit (bonus) on a high quality post.

It is correct.

If you're ONLY here, or MAINLY here for signature campaign, then you should go away. You are spammer.

Everybody should stay away from the shitcoin bounties.

OP gets 9 merit by focusing users on rank and merit, and sending them to chase shitcoin bounties, spam campaigns, and scams: Roll Eyes

Signature campaign:
You can earn money weekly by participating in the signature campaign. However, most signature campaigns do not accept low rank profile. That's why you need to rank up your profile. If you want to rank up the profile, you have to earn merit.
You can visit the following thread to know more about this....
Merit & new rank requirements

Bounty campaign:
You can earn some money by participating in the bounty campaign. But for this you have to be very patient. Because after a bounty campaign for a certain period of time, the payment is too late and low. Some campaigns will not pay you. But for a low rank profile, bounty can be a good way to make money.
You can visit the following thread to know more about this...
Bounties (Altcoins) <<<EDITOR NOTE: worst spam source, all users there should be banned>>>

"SHUT UP AND EAT YOUR SPAM!"

OP is very wrong.

If good user here for discussion, then rank up and merit will happen naturally. Don't even think about how to do it! (unless, lol, you are like me, Newbie want to post noncommercial images with no paying for Copper account... stupid restrictions only made because of spammers and other abusers! Less than 24 hours after signup, I already got 1 merit I need... this is my 14th post, next activity period starts in hour and a half... I will post images freely, starting in about two weeks from now. Cheesy)

Best users are those who DO NOT CARE too much about rank and merit. (Same like in the rest of life.)
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Re: What is the most advantage of Using Bitcoin Forum ?
by
The-None-Above-All
on 02/12/2020, 01:28:23 UTC
What makes the forum looks magnificent is that, it's filled with much knowledge and exposure into crypto.

"What makes the forum looks magnificent is that, it's filled with" great places to show your paid signature, bump your activity, by posting in SPAM MEGATHREAD. Did you even read OP? It is shitposter who does not want knowledge.

I am a newbie here right now and I have seen lots of discussion group on Bitcointalk from where we can get more than appropriate amount of knowledge related to crypto. But I am also wondering what is the best advantage of using Bitcoin forum besides getting knowledge.

Another completely useless post:

Except for my posts, all posts after page 1 are useless blah blah blah generic fluff and not even responding to OP.