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Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - One Click Install Is Live[Updates & Discussion]
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Thies1965
on 08/08/2014, 19:19:08 UTC
I think that's normal. You see webstart installs NIS on your computer while the standalone package is merely lying around in some location unknown to it.
I think the best way to run the client is to choose Webstart OR the standalone package. Mixing things is a recipe for problems like yours Smiley
The standalone package is imho best for people that want to run a node 24/7 or only want to run NIS. Webstart is meant for people that just want to use the client and have an easy way of starting it.

Nobody is mixing anything though.

I understand that things are setup this way to accommodate those that go for the One Click Install but it causes this issue when running  everything through the Standalone Package.  Not saying that the issue is critical (or even important for the matter)...  we just need to point to the solution when people report having this particular problem.

Oh you mean you start NCC from the standalone package and it tries to download and install NIS ?
I'll file an issue in the repo.

Thanks for reporting it.

For avoiding the download of the latest NIS code via WebStart, add just the following command line option:

-nis_ws 0

You may also have a look at the NCC specification:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZVrzuS_krjRF5rMvt5oKl3IS3VOhF_qnn2faZb7KZQ/edit#

There is also an option if you would like to start the NIS and NCC from an USB stick without leaving any traces on the host computer.

 
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Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - One Click Install Is Here[Updates & Discussion]
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Thies1965
on 26/07/2014, 22:00:49 UTC
maybe some of you know freeNAS: http://www.freenas.org
have this type of nas server running on my own for years know and today i thought i could be a good solution to put NIS service on that NAS machines. NIS plugin runs stable 24/7 in the backround of your home/buisness fileserver, stabilizing the NEM network.

http://doc.freenas.org/index.php/Plugins

the marketing effect would be amazing to put NIS into the most widespreaded, non-commercial NAS server solution.

what do you think?

That sounds interesting. Anyway, at the moment we develop NIS and NCC on Java. To be honest I am not that familiar with freenas, do you already have experience with developing plugins for freenas?

Freenas is BSD under the hood (and uses the BSD out of box network storage functionality) with a PHP front end for managing the configuration files. I'm still a bit perplexed as to what specifically we are proposing to do with it as it relates to NEM. Are we saying that we'd sponsor a bunch of data center implementations of Freenas on pizza boxes or VMs or something and run a bunch of NIS nodes on those hosts? I use freenas a ton in virtual and non-virtual scenarios and would be happy to help if I understood the proposal.

My understanding is more the question how broad could we make the backbone for a crypto currency. So if it is easy to deploy NIS on a broader range of HW that is constantly running, why not. It helps to stabilize things.
IMO if ideas are coming floating in, the more the better.

Future scenarios for NCC / NIS could also be that there are mobile front-ends talking to your own instance of NCC which in turn connects to the NEM cloud.
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Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - One Click Install Is Here[Updates & Discussion]
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Thies1965
on 25/07/2014, 16:28:37 UTC
Can't boot a local NEM node. If I create a node name with just numbers it gives me "ERROR 306", else I always get "ERROR 601: Unknown error". I used a one-click-installation file from forum.nemcoin.com.

Sorry for this, we have already a fix available for the 601 and there will be a fix for 306 during booting of NIS server.

Stay tuned, next release will appear shortly.
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Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - One Click Install Is Here[Updates & Discussion]
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Thies1965
on 25/07/2014, 16:26:08 UTC
maybe some of you know freeNAS: http://www.freenas.org
have this type of nas server running on my own for years know and today i thought i could be a good solution to put NIS service on that NAS machines. NIS plugin runs stable 24/7 in the backround of your home/buisness fileserver, stabilizing the NEM network.

http://doc.freenas.org/index.php/Plugins

the marketing effect would be amazing to put NIS into the most widespreaded, non-commercial NAS server solution.

what do you think?

That sounds interesting. Anyway, at the moment we develop NIS and NCC on Java. To be honest I am not that familiar with freenas, do you already have experience with developing plugins for freenas?
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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
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Thies1965
on 04/06/2014, 21:02:01 UTC
You may be right, but i would guess that the key creation process will stay nearly the the same in alpha,beta and final version. I plan a package that will enable everybody to create this vouchers and as i am not a pro dev it will take some of my time. The key creation process will hopefully not change that much so it can be prepared now which will give me some more time for the graphics later on and i will be able to test my first results on the beta.

Actually we're considering one change, but I'll ansewer you on PM anyway

@ gimre thanks a lot, i don't want to hurry, pls. take your time
@ kodtycoon  everything fine, tnx !  Smiley

1. curve is secp256k1
2. public key is "compressed" (there's byte 02 or 03 byte used instead of encoding full Y, Y can be retrieved from X and that 02/03 byte)

encoding public key (PK):
1. d1 = sha3(PK)
2. d2 = ripe160(d1)
3. d3 = concat(version, d2),  version byte for alpha is 0x98
4. chk = 4 first bytes of sha3(d3)
5. d4 = concat(d3, chk)
6. Base32encode(d4)


Perfect, that will help, thanks! Will the base32 use special alphabet? private key will be 32byte int? and is there already a wallet import format defined for the private key, will it be base32 or base58 encoded?

A Wallet allows for adding an existing NEM account. The account has to be identified by the private key, which has to be provided as the hex representation.
The walet API is provided by NCC and is REST-based.
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Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange
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Thies1965
on 21/03/2014, 14:18:52 UTC
Were only Bitcoin stolen or were alt wallets emptied too. If the case is the former, I'd like to withdraw all my alts, and "Maintenance Mode" doesn't seem to be working for people in my situation.

As stated by myself and others several times since page 65 of this thread, yes other coins were taken too.
My post on page 65 shows how I was able to prove that LTC were taken from random accounts on the 18th March (2 days after the site was inaccessible).

My Zeit, WDC and Moon still in coinex , were not stolen.
How do you know?

Can you actually withdraw your coins? Are you still the owner of the private key of those 'deposit' wallets?
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Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange
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on 21/03/2014, 13:57:26 UTC
Well, things seem to be bad.

I cannot understand why it takes so long to analyse what has happened, what is still there and what is lost.
As argued by erundook, they wait for investors comments, I guess they on a wrong path.

Clear communication and consise communication is key to get trust in crypto currencies not in 'selling' the future to some new (naiv?) investors to cover the loss of a couple of thousand coinex.pw deposit owners.

A quick look-up showed me that erundook has withdrawn his github account (even though he is referencing it).

I am really sorry about those wrong characters.

Close this thread, they are gone!
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Re: Type of NEM Client
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Thies1965
on 10/03/2014, 17:27:47 UTC
Independent from the technology underneath the client, it will be an easily installable client.

So either WebGUI or Java-GUI will be installed on the client through a simple install procedure. That will be our target for the NEM client. Source code which has to be compiled by the user is not a targeted solution.

Simple, easy, simple and easy resulting in an intuitive usable client for NEM. That should be our target line.

I slightly favor a webGUI since it has more flexibility in UX design than a 'platform'-specific GUI (Qt, Java SWT or .NET).

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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
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Thies1965
on 30/01/2014, 20:22:09 UTC

@Jaguar and Theis. Some thoughts from a friend.

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There are things that I don’t like about NXT or that I think could be done differently.

1. Storing whole blockchain in memory.
    imo, “app” should be split into 3 parts:
    1.  server, storing blockchain and all related info in DB - this one would be used for all the SERIOUS stuff (so exchages, faucets, and any other apps like that would run this)
    2.  lightweight IN-BROWSER client - I think CfB has similar idea - that one, would have ZERO knowledge itself it, but I think it’d be possible to do whole singing in-browser.
    3.  ‘normal’ client - for users, that want to participate in the network, but don’t want to deal with DB setup. This one would keep blockchain in memory, BUT it would rely on “snapshots”
               a. snapshot would be created every X days (I was thinking about X=10)
               b. they would contain information about state (of accounts), but would drop all the history
               c. snapshots (for new clients) could be propagated in torrent-like fashion.
1.1 Agree, storage must be transactional secure

1.2 lightweight browser, maybe I do not get the point, but this is already available...IMHO GUI not very nice or attractive and not easy to unerstand
@UF could you ask to elaborate on this a little bit more

1.3 In principle I would agree, snapshots which get propagate are open for attacks and easy targets to fake snapshots

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2.  TPS rate. I’ve seen somewhere info, that Nxt could handle 100_000 TPS. I have some doubts about it. (current hardcoded limit for tx in block is 255, that would imply ~400 BLOCKS per sec).
     I think software, should be thought upfront to handle large amount of transactions per second. (so for sure, somewhere “in future” there should be switch to binary protocol, also it might be beneficial  to use UDP to propagate information).  what do you think about GHOST?
     Also I got interesting idea, but I’m not sure how it would work in practice...

3.   Lack of Wallet. People simply got used to this. I don’t think generating Secret Key by doing SHA on a string (like Nxt is doing currently) is a good idea.

4.   Curve. You’ve already written, you’d like to switch to Ed, so I guess you think the same.

A.   Server as a servlet - I think this is good choice for initial implementation (before adding binary protocol, also servlet, would still be needed if one would like to have IN-BROWSER client). But I’d change one simple (and quite obvious) thing: instead of embedding type of query in json, It should be in URL itself.
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A. Agree, maybe a kind of REST Api
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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
by
Thies1965
on 29/01/2014, 19:59:29 UTC
Mining is called forging with NXT.
It is advertised that transparent forging is one of the key factors and differentiators of NXT.

I tried to understand the algorithm behind that forging mechanism. I did not find anything (except looking into the decompiled code).

IMHO: NXT concept of forging does not follow the approach of 'fairness'; it generates GODS and GIANTS. The more NXT you have the more NXT you will receive. This approach does not support the concept behind NEM.

A much more flexible and less chunk building algorithm has to be developed/defined.

Any suggestions / ideas?
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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
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Thies1965
on 29/01/2014, 18:49:36 UTC
I would favor for version 1.

Because it is definitively different to those technical Coin looks...
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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
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Thies1965
on 28/01/2014, 21:08:56 UTC
- I will also change the account numbers to be more bitcoin-like

Will you be using the proposed Reed-Solomon encoding ricot and NxtChg are working on for Nxt?

I'm thinking a different format would be better, so that NEM addresses can't (in general) be interpreted as NXT addresses by clients and vice-versa. There are simpler encoding schemes (linear codes) which can also do character typo detection and correction (but, unlike Reed-Solomon, not for character omission), and which don't require field algebra. They can be easily implemented from scratch without using 3rd party libraries.

I can expand on this if there's interest.

I would like to throw in another aspect which might be important for broader acceptance.
We try to spread NEM to a much broader base of user types.

We have all senior users in respect to crypto currencies on focus but also we would like to draw in NEWBIEs to crypto.

In long discussions, I have with friends and also with private equity consultants, the most NEWBIEs fear (beside loosing money, sure..) is to tackle with technical issues they are not capable to understand (or willing) nor to solve. So NEM has to provide an understandable and easy way for those NEWBIEs. Cryptic long numbers do not help them to understand whether they have a BITCOIN; NXT or whatever wallet address.

IMHO, the public address for NEM has to reflect some clear indicators that we do have a NEM account here.
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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
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Thies1965
on 25/01/2014, 13:13:44 UTC

Looks great Smiley And I love that you're answering the popular questions in the front page.

Do you/the dev team have a date or specific number of stakeholders to reach before "starting" the coin? And if so which date/number is it? Smiley

Noooo it's not a coin!  Grin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg4719599#msg4719599

But ... I already bought several nemcoin domains. I checked nem domain but they are not available so I went with nemcoin. It is okie though, I don't think it matters much.
We can be a system and also a coin. No envy movement coin. Sound cool enough to me.


@okaynow it looks just great. I am very happy. All NEMers are happy too Smiley

That looks really great!

Any idea to 'trade mark' the logo / signs? (Is it still possible after publication...I doubt...but..anyway, just a thought). It would look stronger and rises professional/serious impression...just my opinion.
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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
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Thies1965
on 25/01/2014, 12:54:35 UTC
NEM main page has a huge face-lift. Come check it out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4592223#msg4592223

Looks great Smiley And I love that you're answering the popular questions in the front page.

Do you/the dev team have a date or specific number of stakeholders to reach before "starting" the coin? And if so which date/number is it? Smiley

We are targeting roughly 3000 accounts more or less. We already reached close to 800 in 5 days. I hope we can keep this pace with massive upcoming promotional pushes.

BTW, we still need to set up nemcoin.info, nemcoin.com and fiat-NEM gateways before making media campaigns.  

Also a simple instruction of how to reserve NEM needs to be written. Like 1. create a bitcointalk account. 2. send money to xxx. 3. make a reply with proof of sending --->
See you in a month with a chunk of NEM. Instructions to be in several languages and also put into all nemcoin sites.

Just in case, I would take over the translation into German if not covered already...
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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
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Thies1965
on 23/01/2014, 20:51:08 UTC
For sure, algorithms for defining a fair algorithm and truly secured tx mechanisms and so on, for me, NEM should provide a very robust runtime solution.
- It should be easy for 'users' to use and work with NEM.
- We should avoid code drops, which are unstable, breaking td-block chains like it happened with some other crypts. Otherwise, reputation hits rock bottom.
- Mechanisms should be included to communicate program problems to the dev comm.
- UI should be intuitive for regular users not having deep knowledge crypto-stuff
- We need a broad base on forging 'servers', yep NXT has it but try to get it up and running stable on different platforms. IT IS a nightmare today!!

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keep thinking...
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Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
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Thies1965
on 23/01/2014, 20:39:02 UTC
It is interesting all are talking about how much each one will get. How to secure their stake on the genesis block.

BUT

Why don't start with discussions on features that differentiate NEM from NXT ...
What makes it unique and outstanding...

Isn't that crucial to lift off and keep flying with NEM?

Just some thoughts..sorry if I bothered you...
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Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins
by
Thies1965
on 21/01/2014, 20:40:33 UTC
Interested, sign me in could support in dev tasks (Java)

Hey Thies1965. You are a developer of this project. I will contact you at some points. Let me know if you have any idea for the project.

Will send PM with some thoughts, but will be busy this week ... time on WE
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Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins
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Thies1965
on 21/01/2014, 20:06:40 UTC
Interested, sign me in could support in dev tasks (Java)
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Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins
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Thies1965
on 20/01/2014, 21:02:16 UTC
As you may have noticed, NEM is strong and pushing through the network.

I love NEM

NXT: 13075633816151149785
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Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins
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Thies1965
on 19/01/2014, 19:04:35 UTC
Cool...absolutely.

I was compiling the decompiled version of the new NEM client and it is running!!
Great performance...

Now to get my power machine participating the new NEM P2P network, I need urgently NEM

Here is my new NEM
NEM-09884003928817611183206557402291772228811777

I read that forging is possible when one have 100,000 NEMs

I beg for 1Mio NEM, since having more generates more.

Thank you for listening and stay tuned  Cool

 Wink

Thanks Thies1965 could be one of our core developer. Raise your hand and voice your support for NEM if you want to join our team.

Yep, would join the dev team. Send PM, would like to step in, tell me what is missing and I close the gap.