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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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Thoth1978
on 05/02/2018, 22:09:19 UTC
He could be an expatriate living anywhere. But if he could get into trouble for having/using Bitcoin, is it really cool to try to find him?
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 03/02/2018, 23:43:17 UTC
Oh, and congratulations to those of you who were *actually* on the right path. Though people made fun of *me*, I owe you all an apology for how I privately reacted. Cheesy
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on 03/02/2018, 23:16:17 UTC
Not really, I think that after the first few steps, there are a lot of different directions to go. And I don't think of the images as my art. I think of the image as interactive art.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 03/02/2018, 22:41:58 UTC
Pan Troglodytes: For some reason when I try to quote anyone, I'm unable to. However, thank you for acknowledging that there was something to find. I'm crazy, for sure, but hopefully in a "productive member of society" kind of way.

But as for that beauty, working through this puzzle, even if I was on the wrong path, was often sublime. I've had so-called mystical experiences (I'm an agnostic, so don't put much weight on them), but this puzzle shows that coin_artist knows her stuff.

I'm not talking directly to her because I think she'd prefer that we explore it all on our own without dragging her in. The fun really is in the exploration, and a true artist prefers to let others do the interpretation.

If your wife wants to explore the image, I'd recommend the tiff version. The jpeg worked fine, but became pixellated a few dozen steps in, and the detail in the tiff is worth a slow computer.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 03/02/2018, 22:25:05 UTC
Part Two of my exploration of the Rabbit Hole (wrong approach) is up. There are some images that I think even the biggest skeptics would find hard to dismiss.

I obviously know I was on the wrong path, but there are some very real, and very cool images in this puzzle. I don't think I've even scratched the surface.

https://yetzirah-games.squarespace.com/blog/2018/2/3/the-legend-of-satoshi-nakamoto-part-2-the-rabbit-hole
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 03/02/2018, 20:23:47 UTC
Wow. My path was definitely wrong. But yet, there are images to be found in all the crazy photomanipulation I did. There were often distinct. Were they an elaborate red herring, or set of Easter Eggs?

I’m glad I wasn’t closer, to be honest, but there was so much detail...
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 02/02/2018, 15:00:17 UTC
There's no sarcasm in my post, I assure you. All of the images are real, and this isn't a hoax. The whole endeavor could very well be a red herring for a much more straightforward solution, but there were real images in there, and they told a story.

I hope we find out what the final answer is soon, though. I'm steeling myself to find out that one of my images was close and that I turned down another path too soon. I really hope not, but I'm happy with what I did.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 02/02/2018, 13:48:32 UTC
It's cool. I know how it is on the internet. Thanks, though.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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Thoth1978
on 02/02/2018, 13:41:22 UTC
⭐ Merited by feedo (1)
Note: I wasn't the one to solve this, but I did make significant progress.

I posted around Christmas and because I was unwilling to give away to much information, no one believed that I had made progress on the puzzle. I was actually ridiculed and called schizophrenic, but I was telling the truth. I was legitimately trying to help others make progress. The key was to think like an artist.

Anyway, since there's no information yet about how it was solved, I wrote a blog post about my own progress.  Congratulations to the winner.

Here's the post:

https://yetzirah-games.squarespace.com/blog/2018/2/2/the-legend-of-satoshi-nakamoto-part-overview-long

I think the puzzle is worth exploring even without the financial incentive. It's brilliant, and fun to explore. Maybe my post will help some of you get started.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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Thoth1978
on 28/12/2017, 14:22:53 UTC

Soooo after first clue you are both on different track? So I think this answers my previous question Sad

Maybe we started on different A. I don't know, honestly I consider more realiatic my workflow because involves what you clearly see. This has to be solved with low res jpeg, always think about that.

Real last post for a while. Right. Format diesn’t seem to matter, per se. I’m working mostly with .pngs right now, and still making progress. Whatever the solution is, you should be able to find it with the JPEG or Tiff. I’ve picked up work from just a current .png, and had no problems. This is good because I don’t have enough RAM to keep everything open at once.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 28/12/2017, 13:57:43 UTC
I have only one question - I hope it isn't big clue to answer. Is it solvable the way I mentioned it before? Like you get first fat clue, clue A, 100% certain, you get it, you know it is the one and the you get to clue B etc? They are solid, distinct, undeniable?

To me they seem to be. I sense that there are multiple paths to the solution, having followed a few divergent paths that seemed valid until I got stuck. Each macroscopic image of significance seems to be laid out in a 3 or more dimensional grid that you can traverse procedurally. At some points there are very specific instructions hidden in the images you find. Others are more open to interpretation, and lead in different directions.


I can’t reply to a private message  I have for a half hour so I’ll post here. After you complete the first step, look at the image. If nothing jumps out at you, step back or lean in. The puzzle is about rapidly changing perspectives. Sometimes you need the forest, and sometimes you need the trees.

I think this will be my last post in this thread for a while. Good luck everyone.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 28/12/2017, 13:03:06 UTC

White Rabbit, I don't know what your goal is, but from what I know you are saying random things. If you knew more, you could simply solve this puzzle and go away with money. You probably, as 99% of people here, don't even know where to start and why. So, do you want tips? Do you want to bring people out of track just to have more time to solve this? I don't really know but I don't think you are in some way related to this puzzle as someone guessed

The one thing that comes to mind is that the White Rabbit is part of the team that designed the puzzle and is frustrated that most people are stuck on the first page, counting flames. The first real step and beyond goes many, many layers deeper. I have found dozens of significant images in that file, or hundreds if you count intermediary steps. There are two big stories, told graphically in there. It’s almost a game, more than a set of images, and appears to descibe at the very least, a vast 3 dimensional space to explore. There may be more dimensions there, if you go by the nodes between them. The white rabbit is the key, and you won’t find him (I don’t think) on the first image.

Everything White Rabbit said in this thread, that I’ve seen, applies to the puzzle. This isn’t bragging, more of a sideways hint because I have a sense of honor. The flames, and counting them may have later relevance, I’m not sure, but I haven’t used them directly at all, and I’m hundreds of steps deep. Lateral thinking and a sense of aesthetics will serve you well. This is an amazing feat of software engineering, but the progress I’ve made  has mostly involved my artistic skills. In fact, I’m stuck, a bit on a more traditionallly cryptographic aspect of the puzzle. It involves decrypting symbols that serve as instructions in a long series of chains.

If you figure out the first step, save early and often, and set aside gigabytes of space for the data you pull out. I lost a few days before I got back on track after a mistake in that department.

You could refer to all these small drawings spreaded throughout all the art piece: https://imgur.com/a/5z9WL

They are thousands and more, they are people, animals, creatures... I noticed them the third day spent on this hi-res image at 200% zoom, I thought I was visionary. Thanks for noticing them too.

By the way, they are not the very first step that lead to something useful, they could be only funny easter eggs, or maybe they become useful later. I don't know. My workflow is much simpler and straightforward, it involves only what everyone can see without the need to zoom. You will eat your hands when I, or someone else, will reveal it to you.

I hope to solve this before being forced to tell you.

There are way, way, more interesting images in theres, in a huge array of art styles. The first step is a macro step, not a detail-related one. I suspect you may have found it, but there are a lot more beyond that. It’s all logical, if sometimes insane. There is a key online that will take you way beyond the first step, and it hasn’t been mentioned by any of the clues. The clue to it is in the first actual step. Once you see it, google it.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 28/12/2017, 12:53:29 UTC

White Rabbit, I don't know what your goal is, but from what I know you are saying random things. If you knew more, you could simply solve this puzzle and go away with money. You probably, as 99% of people here, don't even know where to start and why. So, do you want tips? Do you want to bring people out of track just to have more time to solve this? I don't really know but I don't think you are in some way related to this puzzle as someone guessed

The one thing that comes to mind is that the White Rabbit is part of the team that designed the puzzle and is frustrated that most people are stuck on the first page, counting flames. The first real step and beyond goes many, many layers deeper. I have found dozens of significant images in that file, or hundreds if you count intermediary steps. There are two big stories, told graphically in there. It’s almost a game, more than a set of images, and appears to descibe at the very least, a vast 3 dimensional space to explore. There may be more dimensions there, if you go by the nodes between them. The white rabbit is the key, and you won’t find him (I don’t think) on the first image.

Everything White Rabbit said in this thread, that I’ve seen, applies to the puzzle. This isn’t bragging, more of a sideways hint because I have a sense of honor. The flames, and counting them may have later relevance, I’m not sure, but I haven’t used them directly at all, and I’m hundreds of steps deep. Lateral thinking and a sense of aesthetics will serve you well. This is an amazing feat of software engineering, but the progress I’ve made  has mostly involved my artistic skills. In fact, I’m stuck, a bit, on a more traditionally cryptographic aspect of the puzzle. It involves decrypting symbols that serve as instructions in a long series of chains.

If you figure out the first step, save early and often, and set aside gigabytes of space for the data you pull out. I lost a few days before I got back on track after a mistake in that department.

Are you sure you're not telling yourself a story that you simply want to believe? To me, internal part of the art simply tells how to interpret the flames properly, so you wont have to brute-force them. It might tell something quite specific, like read only reds, or skip this, jump over that, flip bits of flames related to the "partially turned page"  (that reveals the blue side), etc. I really doubt you need to go hundreds of steps deep in order to see N-th meaning of all of this. Remember, if you stare long enough at the cloud, you can see anything, and usually those are things that directly reflect your life somehow. Make sure you'Re not in a rabbit hole, dug by the author of the puzzle, cause you might get lost in there.

I’m absolutely positive. I have multiple friends who have seen what I  have seen. You’re a true skeptic, though, and that’s a virtue.There is a small chance that the valid and incontrovertable data I’ve pulled out is an ornate red herring, but I don’t think so. However, I’m not going to defend my statements at this time, because the proof is in the pudding. If the creators of the puzzle see this thread, they’ll know if I’m onto it.

To be honest it’s in my best interest to not have people believe me.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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on 28/12/2017, 12:18:01 UTC

White Rabbit, I don't know what your goal is, but from what I know you are saying random things. If you knew more, you could simply solve this puzzle and go away with money. You probably, as 99% of people here, don't even know where to start and why. So, do you want tips? Do you want to bring people out of track just to have more time to solve this? I don't really know but I don't think you are in some way related to this puzzle as someone guessed

The one thing that comes to mind is that the White Rabbit is part of the team that designed the puzzle and is frustrated that most people are stuck on the first page, counting flames. The first real step and beyond goes many, many layers deeper. I have found dozens of significant images in that file, or hundreds if you count intermediary steps. There are two big stories, told graphically in there. It’s almost a game, more than a set of images, and appears to descibe at the very least, a vast 3 dimensional space to explore. There may be more dimensions there, if you go by the nodes between them. The white rabbit is the key, and you won’t find him (I don’t think) on the first image.

Everything White Rabbit said in this thread, that I’ve seen, applies to the puzzle. This isn’t bragging, more of a sideways hint because I have a sense of honor. The flames, and counting them may have later relevance, I’m not sure, but I haven’t used them directly at all, and I’m hundreds of steps deep. Lateral thinking and a sense of aesthetics will serve you well. This is an amazing feat of software engineering, but the progress I’ve made  has mostly involved my artistic skills. In fact, I’m stuck, a bit, on a more traditionally cryptographic aspect of the puzzle. It involves decrypting symbols that serve as instructions in a long series of chains.

If you figure out the first step, save early and often, and set aside gigabytes of space for the data you pull out. I lost a few days before I got back on track after a mistake in that department.
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Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE!
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Thoth1978
on 28/12/2017, 07:59:51 UTC
I won’t say what I did because I’m about to go through a divorce and have a kid in college, and so I don’t want to help a competitor (I hope you understand). However, I’ve made it a lot further than anyone speaking in this thread since I first looked at this puzzle almost two weeks ago. It’s been daily work, but the image does indeed contain a Wonderland, and more, as the White Rabbit says. It’s a real rabbit hole, so to speak, and it doesn’t require specialized software that you can’t find for free online. I hope to solve it in the next few days, and when I do, I’ll show you some of what I found. I do recognize that anyone who’s gotten anywhere with this might have kept it to themselves, and so I might not be the first to solve it. In that case I’ll still show you some of what I found.

Truly, it’s the most impressive work of art I’ve ever seen. Its appearance is deceptive.