People want to use BTC now, because they have no idea of what will be available in the future.  I'd say it's just the opposite.  Without Counterparty, BTC will dramatically lose its appeal! 

By the way, even if there is some compromise reached on this issue, can you imagine having to work with Luke forever? 

If there isn't such a procedure there ought to be.  It's pretty clear from Luke's entire posting history that he is a constant source of friction, and takes obvious delight in it.

I'm inclining to agree with Adam that the biggest problem with bitcoin is the core devs, and that the best course of action for Counterparty is to expect nothing from them, except perhaps deliberate obstructiveness, and move to considering Litecoin, or some other faster blockchain without the baggage of these guys.  I don't see much constructive development from them over the last year in comparison to what the Counterparty devs have acheived in a few weeks anyway.  They seem a lot more like traffic cops than devs on any open source project I've come across.

The bottom line is that without innovation Bitcoin is going to be left behind.  It's a shame to throw away all that hashing power and first mover advantage, but from the silence of any of the other 'Big 15', and the attitude of Luke and Jeff in this thread it seems pointess to keep begging for a tiny peice of their territory to work with because they have made it very clear that they just don't care about what Counterparty is attempting.

In what way is the array of benefits Counterparty provides to Bitcoin an abuse? Spam is an abuse. Inserting religious messages is an abuse.  Counterparty is a *use*.

Because you and Luke do not accept what Counterparty is doing does not make it 'unaceptable'.  The two of you may be big wheels around here, but that can change fast if you act in ways that a majority see as counterproductive to Bitcoin, and in this case I think it is clear that you are.

Please spell out here, in detail, with numbers, how you *hypothesize* that Counterparty is impacting the network to its detriment.  

If you can put a clearly defined cost on its use then perhaps that can be weighed against its obvious benefits.

If that is what your argument boils down to, it seems to be completely inadequate to explain your insistence on this issue.

You need to go argue this point in the comments section of http://heartiste.wordpress.com  or  http://www.returnofkings.com

People are more interested in money than feminism here.   

Your obnoxious childish attitude is not helping this project.  Grow up!

Someone might want to add this link to the ANN top page

http://poloniex.freshdesk.com/support/home

so that people who are having problems with Poloniex can open a support ticket without 'cluttering' your thread.

Poloniex working now.  XCP safe.

No connection to Gox, I hope? 

Can you guys even log in to Poloniex right now? 

Thanks for confirming.  Tense times

Is anyone else having problems logging in to Poloniex?  I'm getting a blank teal blue page after signing in on the login popup.  Busoni?

Sometimes I think you're about the only MAN on this forum, Justus.

You might have gleaned from the internet that Bitcoin is by far the hottest investment of 2013.  Where you went wrong is in thinking that it is still being given away for free.  That applied 3 or four years ago, but since then Bitcoin has hit the bigtime.

What you need to do is sign up with Coinbase if you are in the US, or Bitstamp or BTC-E if you are in Europe or elsewhere, and send them some money.  Then you can participate.

Don't worry, I've thought it through quite carefully.  You have nothing to lose but your chains  

Why don't you take a couple of hours to appreciate the genius of Murray Rothbard:
https://mises.org/rothbard/newlibertywhole.asp

It'll put your mind at ease.

I think what is needed at this point is an official Anti-Bitcoin Foundation.

Just a simple website that states the position of bitcoin users who do not agree that the Bitcoin Foundation represents them, and explicitly refuses to be bound by any agreements made by the Bitcoin Foundation, and makes it clear that we refuse to comply with the regulations of any state, whether it be Thailand or the USA.

Why?  Because we want Freedom, we are tired of Slavery, and we will NOT comply any longer.

Yes, and you can see in this thread the people who will allow it.  Because it's "inevitable".  Because they want to comply with the government. Because they are scared.  Because they put greed over principle.  

Frankly, I don't care about what the people do with bitcoin v.0.8.  They almost certainly will turn it into Govtcoin.  But the genie is out of the bottle.  The true bitcoin is in our very immediate future, and it will UTTERLY DESTROY states around the world.

It was a dead giveaway.  Same with people who sneer about "tinfoil hats", "libertards" and "conspiracy theorists".  Pod-people.  Avoid.

The revolution will be compromised.

It's incremental improvement, and as people's comfort level with instantly dropping one currency for another grows, the quality of the viable products grows, just as with any other product.  After all, the unique selling proposition of cryptocurrency is freedom from state control.  No reason why we shouldn't approach that ideal asymptotically.