Curious to hear people's opinions on the 'value proposition' of these units right now.
And to be clear, I am not trying to flame, but I am running two units from batch 2 that don't seem like they will ever achieve ROI.

To anyone purchasing now, what is your gameplan? What are your priorities and goals?
Just curious to get other perspectives, cheers.

Just wanted to chime in here and say that since the last update, my units have been 100% stable.
I used to rarely make it over a week without a unit going offline, or having a hashboard lose power, now they have been up and running properly literally since the minute they updated.

So thanks for a good release, look forward to the additional features on the way.

I lost internet and was managing my unit remotely, also had no other option but to power it off the old fashioned way.
Ended up with the same issue as you, asked about it extensively on here but never got a solution.

Magically without explanation it all started working again about 2 months later.... so who knows, but I don't think its bricked.
Mine still mined and function properly, just lost all the system stats in the dashboard.

May or may not be relevant... but in troubleshooting my own slew of issues I did have the following realization...

If anything causes them to powercycle, they often rejoin your network at a new/unique IP address (or they can, depending on your router setup).
So, if your accessing these over the internet, verify they have not moved to a new IP address!

Thanks, should have mentioned that.
Yes running 3.1, and it was running normally on 3.1 for the first month before this issue came up.

Thanks, should have mentioned that.
Yes running 3.1, and it was running normally on 3.1 for the first month before this issue came up.

Hello @jstefanop and others,

Still have not found a solution to the following issue, and would appreciate help/insight.

My miner reports "There is a problem fetching system stats (Internal error)" at the top of the UI and is missing most system info.
- No CPU temp is displayed
- No CPU usage % is displayed
- SSD capacity and usage is not displayed
- Memory usage is not displayed.

I have tried rebooting repeatedly, and it has no effect.
Is there hardware damage here? Should I reflash the SD card?

Just looking for solutions, thanks!

Hey everyone, support question.
Loving my miners, and they have generally been reliable, but recently had an issue.


Overnight, my miners seemingly went "offline" in that they were no longer accessible by the web-ui, and stopped sending hashes to my pool (0 reported speed).

However, the physical units themselves were still purring away, red LED and yellow LED's flashing, as well as the network port.
My router showed the device as online and identifiable as well.

I tried setting up with HDMI and keyboard but that seems to only work if they are already plugged in on boot.
So in this instance I got a black screen with no signal.


What should I do to safely shut these two units down other than pull the plug, knowing that the node seems to still be running?
Also, what in gods' name are those things 'hashing' if they are offline and sending out no data?

Thanks!

That is an interesting metric I was unaware of.
I am running two units off of a very old 735w single rail unit.
So, just abut dead on that 50% load area.

Ill have to put a meter on  the plug and see what kind of power its actually drawing from the wall compared to the futurebit dash.

Finally tried out some of the other modes on the Apollos in the last few days.
Had a very delightful and surprising discovery.

In Eco mode....  I was getting 2 th/s @ 76w per th/s
in Balanced mode.. I get  2.5 th/s @ 64w per th/s   

So, not sure why but balanced mode actually offers better wat per wat performance for me.
Also, it was a more substantial hashrate increase than I expected too, with 25% performance gains over eco.

I am not a particualarly savvy or wise person, but I can answer these questions to some degree.
1.  Yes, I believe it did because I also have included that text and am also mining successfully.
2.  The lower temps correspond to the actual dashboard, while the temp in the top is the CPU for the main unit.



Another follow up question of my own...
The reported hashrate at the top of the GUI shows consistently about 10% higher than the actual hashrate recognized by the pool.
I am assuming this is normal, and due to the nature of how these things are calculated? (or in reality estimated?)

The reason I am asking at all is because both numbers are surfaced within the GUI, one at the top of the screen (big) and another smaller number in-line with the pool information.
Seems a bit funny that it would contradict itself?

Cheers!

Hey there, thanks for taking the time to respond. I really appreciate it!
Very glad to hear about the "cron jobs" in particular, not something I am familiar with but I will start doing my research.
If you do have any great resource links, I would happily take them though.

The reason I had asked about temps seems to have been addressed earlier in this thread too (finally found a few relevant posts).
Basically my concern was the CPU TEMP, which is blazing hot right now doing a full node sync. (between 80-85c)
Seems like this is to be expected, and not cause for concern as it will drop down to reasonable operating temps once the sync is complete.

Cheers!

Hey yall, its been a while!

Got my shiny new Apollo BTC's today, and got them up and running easily and seamlessly.
A really nice industrial design, and UX design on this one, well done!

I do have a few questions, that are more likely feature requests...

• 1.  Can you set a hashrate target (instead of energy target), and have the power and clocks adjust to meet it?
• 2.  Can you do any type of scheduling for adjusting hashrate, or starting/stopping the hash?  My electricity costs are dramatically higher in the evening and would want to mine outside that window daily.
• 3.  If you have multiple Apollo units, controlled by one "Main/Full" unit, can you have those identified as separate workers to a pool? .
• 4.  What are considered "reasonable" temperatures, or perhaps what are MAXIMUM temperatures which should not be exceeded for these units?.

Thanks, and cheers!

Ok, so.... two weeks in. Not the best news to report.

At first everything was going A-OK. Then as I started trying to get the sticks back over 600clock I noticed they would only run about 10-15m before throwing errors, and the hub would clearly powercycle.

So I realized the issue quickly after that, which is that my math was bad, and (4 ML2's) * (1.5watts * 4.0 MH/S) = 24+ Watts Power Draw. So in this case at 600 clock speed, and 4mh/s I was already maxing out the power brick. And after checking it, it was MOLTEN hot.

So I contacted Pluggable support, and a very helpful tech there told me that even under the true threshold of the AC Adapter, the components inside the hub are not of a grade that is meant to sustain those high loads for extended periods of time, only temporarily when fast charging a phone or two. So, I monitored the situation closely and by the end of the week I could smell a singed / burnt smell on the AC adapter and was even noticing heat build up where the adapter plugged into the hub itself. 

So... to avoid fire, I have re-worked my setup to stay well below the 25w max on the adapter, and am running only 2 moonlanders at high clock speeds on the hub.

(Tiny Violins playing).

Thanks!! The 3d model is my own, though it was done very quickly and is very sloppy. The only accurate things on the sticks are the overall dimensions like width, length, depth, and fan protrusion, heat-sink protrusion, etc.
The rest is guesstimated because I was too lazy to measure or model it accurately.

As for the hub, it arrived today!!! Turns out the box was damaged, but it was actually a brand new unopened unit for 17$ after shipping. Total steal.
I am also happy to report that it is up and running 4 moonlander2's with no issues. Well, other than counter-weighting the hub to stop it from falling off my window sill.
Going to start tweaking voltages too see how high I can get the hash rate on here. but I think this is going to be a very good permanent setup for me.

https://i.imgur.com/Gnk7aBa.gifv

Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I have ordered a used unit (Pluggable USB3-HUB7-81X) for $17.
I have mocked it up and it will have no problems fitting 4 moonlanders in terms of physical space. So we will see about the volts/watts/amps.

Mockup below, will report back with more details in the coming week.
https://i.imgur.com/naxUtGA.jpg

Hey guys, I am a bit confused as to what gets these things to tick.
How can you be running 3 clocked up sticks at 5V/4A and others cant get 3 working on those pluggable 12V/5A?

Does it really come down to how the board is laid out behind the scenes with the various regulators, etc?

I am thinking of ordering the Pluggable USB3-HUB7-81X:   5V/5A  w/ 25W Brick.
They are available used at very low cost, and provide 5w additional over the Digitus hub mentioned above.
Should I be able to run 4 sticks on this sucker at stock clocks? Or is it going to dump out like the other pluggable hubs in this thread.

Hello everybody. Hoping you guys/gals can provide me with some troubleshooting assistance  

I have a Moonlander2 that was working just fine for the last 2 weeks. Average hash of 4.4mh/s.
(Running it at stock voltages, clock at 796, some additional airflow by a small fan)

All of a sudden, one day I noticed one of my other Moonlanders was hashing a little slow (not the one in question) so I closed out
of BFGminer and restarted it. Only to notice I was suddenly down one device.

So at this point I was like hmm, that is weird, especially considering it isn't even the one that was hashing slowly. So I restarted my PC,
at this point the issue is not resolved. BFG miner does not detect the Moonlander2 in question, and when looking at the device in hardware
manager. It reports the following information:

""Silicon Labs CP210x USB to UART Bridge (COM4)""
""DEVICE STATUS...... This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device. (Code 31)""
""Object Name already exists.""

Does anybody have a clue whats going on?? I have googled my heart out, and read most of the 50+ pages here. But no luck.

Things I Tried::
-- The Device itself looks perfectly fine after visual inspection, and the green light + fan are on and steady when plugged in. Just no Hash.
-- I have also tried running this Moonlander by itself, with all other moonlanders disconnected. This made no difference.
-- I tried moving the Moonlander to other USB ports, both on a powered hub and the motherboard itself. Even ones that work with other moonlanders don't fix it.

Thanks!!!