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Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming?
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VW50b2xk
on 12/11/2017, 01:47:34 UTC
Here we go again with the fucktarded debate about trust because people just look at useless colored/formatted numbers & are too lazy or stupid to click a hyperlink called Trust:, then read text and the numbers that actually matter:

What is the purpose with entering "Risked BTC amount"? To weight the rating, whether positive, negative, or neutral. What "Risked BTC amount"/weight did I place on the "or had a successful trade" positives for email forwarding? That's right, zero, zilch, zip, nil, nought, nothing, nix, diddly-squat, BECAUSE THEY SENT FIRST - no BTC or theft of services was risked on my end, because their contracts only came into force as soon as they paid & I saw at least 1 confirm.

When I do fill the "Risked BTC amount" involving a contract, it's because it was already in force, and the person either deserved the weight of +/- trust for breaking or not breaking contract, or a neutral if the trade was successful in less than every sense of the word.

Would you prefer dishonesty; not categorizing successful trades as successful trades, as the feedback page instructs us all to do?
Nope. My problem is when someone does a trade, just for that number. That number holds a disgusting amount of weight around here. And it just ends up with people looking for others who can give it to them easily.

Basically people looking for another CanaryInTheMine.
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Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming?
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VW50b2xk
on 11/11/2017, 22:01:26 UTC
1. I needed funds for a short amount of time for my own reason, this is just miscommunication between lender and me.

2. I'm using my business email for this account, one email per btt account.

3. Ok? Is not wanting to spend that much money on coins a problem?

I really can't prove that you're telling the truth. You can keep making excuses, I want to see what other people have to say.

2. You know how shitty SMF is. It even says that the email has to be active. Ive tried making accounts with the same email, and with invalid domains and they still work.

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Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming?
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VW50b2xk
on 11/11/2017, 21:41:49 UTC
I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

The DT members enforce some rules on the members for specific uses. They include shitposting for signature spamming, account farming and scamming - possible criminal attempts. The forum has some rules as well. However since loopholes were often found in those rules, it was the DT members who have tried their level best to fix them by providing some enforced rules. You may or may not follow those rules. That wont stop your access to the forum.


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Trust farming - good or bad?
Where exactly are you getting the idea that people are farming trust? Trust is not farmed but earned.

If A gives B trust a green rating - that means that B is trusted by A - does not imply that a third party (say C) can trust B. C may have their own opinions about B and that does not make any difference.

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C'mon, is it that hard to answer?
What I feel is that you are just another alt account of some butthurt user of the forum who got red trusted by the DT2 members and is now trolling the forum with such threads with no specific use of their own.

If you're assuming I've been negged, not a chance.

I wasn't originally acussing this guy, but someone mentioned him to me in a pm a couple of hours ago, and after doing some research he's even more fishy than the guy I was originally looking at.

User Atriz

1. The Bitcoin he loaned from Taras (Supposedly Bitcoin to pay off a signature campaign - which shouldnt be done if he is escrowing the funds... is he spending the funds?)

It looks like he put the 0.1 onto an exchange/gambling site/mixer, NOT into paying multiple people for a signature campaign, like he said.

2. He purchased the email forwarding probably for the trust (strangely, Aventhe, the one posting in my thread, also did too, barely a few days after)

3. He purchased a "kialara" coin from user Minerjones and in a couple of days, around the time needed to ship a parcel overseas, he started a raffle in which he seems pretty desperate to get rid of it. He has bought many other coins too, and recently bought more.

4. He's just buying ad slots, which I can't really use as evidence, but all four of these things within less than a month is so suspicious.

The more I look into it, the more I find. Im not sure if this is enough information/proof, but just wanted to shed some light.
1. Huh I didn't say it was for a Sig campaign, I didn't even give a reason.
 
2. Using it for my alt, atriz_alt, I only have one email on my phone's, so I can transfer all PM's from that account to the other, especially when I'm going overseas for a bit and don't feel safe logging in on atriz.

3. I sniped that coin since it was a good deal and many people would agree. Selling it for a moon bar, and not feel like spending that much on collectables especially at this price.

4. Ad slots for an ico? Problem?



Here he comes.

1. Thread locked, so I can't quote. See for yourself.

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Oh, is this loan for a signature campaign? I didn't realize who I was talking to. I've decided to fund this on your terms if you accept. Can you sign a message with 1BazXuAsPeRMjGwPTf5k6yRfUCeY5iMj9o first?
Sure. Im getting funds after post counting.

You confirmed it.

2. You can easily do that with Gmail, Zoho, or even at DNS level if you purchase a domain. Why did you have to pay multiple tens of dollars (probably, with Bitcoin's price where it is now) for it?

3. Looking at your history on the collectibles board, you've spent almost more on entering and losing raffles than you have actually buying any coins.

4. No problem here, but it looks hella dodgy under the grand scheme of things.

I don't have an agenda against you btw. But if there's something here that makes this 'proof' of trust farming, then I can take a special person of interest down.  Shocked


1. I think this ones a bit confusing, I meant I'm getting my payment after doing post counting, not that I was low on escrow funds.

2. What do you mean? I only have one business email and one private e-mail which I would rather not use. This email forwarding thing was the safer option and it was like 8 dollars a year.

3. Exactly, that's why I'm cutting my losses and buying a moon bar instead of entering raffles.

4. Talk to the ico im working with for this one, it's not dodgy. They wanted adspace, I got them adspace.


1. Sure. I can't prove this is a lie, but it seems like an excuse to me.
2. Easier and cheaper still - register with your original email.
3. Sounds like another lame excuse
4. I'm saying that in addition to everything else, it seems strange.

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Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming?
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VW50b2xk
on 11/11/2017, 21:19:13 UTC
Snip

Here he comes.

1. Thread locked, so I can't quote. See for yourself.

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Oh, is this loan for a signature campaign? I didn't realize who I was talking to. I've decided to fund this on your terms if you accept. Can you sign a message with 1BazXuAsPeRMjGwPTf5k6yRfUCeY5iMj9o first?
Sure. Im getting funds after post counting.

You confirmed it.

2. You can easily do that with Gmail, Zoho, or even at DNS level if you purchase a domain. Why did you have to pay multiple tens of dollars (probably, with Bitcoin's price where it is now) for it?

3. Looking at your history on the collectibles board, you've spent almost more on entering and losing raffles than you have actually buying any coins.

4. No problem here, but it looks hella dodgy under the grand scheme of things.

I don't have an agenda against you btw. But if there's something here that makes this 'proof' of trust farming, then I can take a special person of interest down.  Shocked
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Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming?
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VW50b2xk
on 11/11/2017, 20:47:26 UTC
I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

The DT members enforce some rules on the members for specific uses. They include shitposting for signature spamming, account farming and scamming - possible criminal attempts. The forum has some rules as well. However since loopholes were often found in those rules, it was the DT members who have tried their level best to fix them by providing some enforced rules. You may or may not follow those rules. That wont stop your access to the forum.


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Trust farming - good or bad?
Where exactly are you getting the idea that people are farming trust? Trust is not farmed but earned.

If A gives B trust a green rating - that means that B is trusted by A - does not imply that a third party (say C) can trust B. C may have their own opinions about B and that does not make any difference.

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C'mon, is it that hard to answer?
What I feel is that you are just another alt account of some butthurt user of the forum who got red trusted by the DT2 members and is now trolling the forum with such threads with no specific use of their own.

If you're assuming I've been negged, not a chance.

I wasn't originally acussing this guy, but someone mentioned him to me in a pm a couple of hours ago, and after doing some research he's even more fishy than the guy I was originally looking at.

User Atriz

1. The Bitcoin he loaned from Taras (Supposedly Bitcoin to pay off a signature campaign - which shouldnt be done if he is escrowing the funds... is he spending the funds?)

It looks like he put the 0.1 onto an exchange/gambling site/mixer, NOT into paying multiple people for a signature campaign, like he said.

2. He purchased the email forwarding probably for the trust (strangely, Aventhe, the one posting in my thread, also did too, barely a few days after)

3. He purchased a "kialara" coin from user Minerjones and in a couple of days, around the time needed to ship a parcel overseas, he started a raffle in which he seems pretty desperate to get rid of it. He has bought many other coins too, and recently bought more.

4. He's just buying ad slots, which I can't really use as evidence, but all four of these things within less than a month is so suspicious.

The more I look into it, the more I find. Im not sure if this is enough information/proof, but just wanted to shed some light.
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Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming?
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VW50b2xk
on 11/11/2017, 07:02:19 UTC
I want to know opinions. The forum doesn't have rules. What is enforced are the opinions of those sitting on DT.

Trust farming - good or bad?

C'mon, is it that hard to answer?
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Re: How do you guys feel about trust farming?
by
VW50b2xk
on 11/11/2017, 03:27:09 UTC
Please DON'T tell us who it is.
How come every single one of these accusatory threads never point out the person/evidence BEFORE it is requested? Jesus.

Because who knows how everyone will respond? Bitcointalk members tend to have strong views that sometimes go against common sense.

But because you asked so nicely, I sent you a pm Smiley

EDIT - @Aventhe, my problem isn't with you, even though you have trust from the same people as the guy I'm accusing. Useless loans taken to get trust, or buying emails that you don't even use.
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How do you guys feel about trust farming?
by
VW50b2xk
on 11/11/2017, 02:20:51 UTC
Because there's ones person thats so blatantly trust farming it's painful people are giving him trust.