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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 01/10/2018, 17:20:01 UTC
And and  in addition I would like to point once again that tomorrow  we'll have the court desision for the EUPSProvider lawsuit applied in defense of their business reputation against a Russian media called "Rusbase" which mentioned Worldcore as a scam in a one of their articles. The final court session is set to 02/10 and "Rusbase" is obliged by the in-bertween court desision to present to the court any evidence proving that Worldcore could be a scam. When the court desision is ready I hope some will publish it here for as an ultimate proof of the Worldcore's position. another cousrt against "Finpotrebsoyuz" - the same old story a lawsuit in defense of Worldcore business reputation is set to 23/10, so there'll be 2 two similar court desicions for October and the both are needed to be posted here asap.   Wink Big thing's coming and now it's like a calm before the storm in the forum!
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 01/10/2018, 17:19:14 UTC
Curiosuly the paidposters activity against Worldcore has been decreasing for a month or two and now it's on the historical minimum since the September 2017 - 1-2 posts per day in the English speaking thread against 6-8 post six months before. I wonder what's it all about? A calm before the storm - I mean the delayed court session in Moscow?  

Meanwhile for your reading pleasure - an interesting independent ivestigations about Alex Prochukhan's and Cheslav Pestyuk's activities beyond law and order in Questra and also regarding their attack on Worldcore:

http://worldcore-review.com/en/about-site-worldsore-review/
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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ValarCrais
on 01/10/2018, 16:34:51 UTC
......Worldcore proving their business is transparent and real joins various professional industry associations uniting the major banks and paymnet systems, for example, ABE- EBA (Euro banking association - https://www.abe-eba.eu/about-eba/eba-members/ )    

Proves nothing and means nothing.
Pay some money and fill in a one page application form = instant "credibility".
A common tactic, see VEIAG and the UN for a recent example.

Are serious or making fools of all us posting as "an example" a bad link leading to the thread which has been removed? What were you trying to say?


You appear to be quite capable of making a fool of yourself with any assistance from me.

The linked thread has been mutilated by VEIAG to conceal their difficulty in answering simple questions about their scheme.
They claim, just like you do for Worldcore and EBA, "transparency" and credibility by association with a third party (UN Global Compact), which vets them for neither of those qualities.

No, it's you and you alone who makes the people here laugh posting bad links as so-called "proofs" and then stating something was "mutilated". Provide us with real proofs or just simply stop spamming here. Regarding ABE-EBA membership - being a member of the large respectable professional industry association is not the thing scammers would do easily because industry members professional assacitions are built and stand to develop, implement and protect professional standards and codes of conduct for their members.



For moderators: this paid bot violates the rules of the forum - evading a ban!

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Dear Marina,

Let me point that you're offtopic and agressive without any mature reasons. You've just duplicated the message you left just three days ago. Is it under the forum's rules?
Also I think it's impolite to say the least to blame people of being "paid bot" and call the moderators to ban if someone disagree with your private and subjective opinion.
In my private and subjective opinion Worldcore is not a scam.  Anyway, let the moderators make their own desicion - they're moderators here and not you. But I'll save your messages in web archive for history.   
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 29/09/2018, 08:34:39 UTC
And nonetheless also I would like to point that in a week we'll the court desision for the EUPSProvider lawsuit applied in defense of their business reputation against a Russian media called "Rusbase" which mentioned Worldcore as a scam in a one of their articles. The final court session is set to 02/10 and "Rusbase" is obliged by the in-bertween court desision to present to the court any evidence proving that Worldcore could be a scam. When the court desision is ready I hope some will publish it here for as an ultimate proof of the Worldcore's position.

A small update: another cousrt against "Finpotrebsoyuz" - the same old story a lawsuit in defense of Worldcore business reputation is set to 23/10, so there'll be 2 two similar court desicions for October and the both are needed to be posted here asap.  Wink
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 29/09/2018, 08:31:10 UTC
The paidposters from the neighbouring thread keep on attacking Worldcore but nowdays less frequently and in a more clever way:

 

I don´t think that a Payment System like credit or debit card systems, PayPal or SEPA could be scam. Yet Worldcore isn´t a Payment System but a Payment Services Provider respectively a Money Transfer Institution based on crypto/blockchain technology. All companies with this background theoretically and practically have the potential for scam because this sector is poorly regulated and barely controlable. Now to the upcoming financial report: I´m curious if this one will be audited or not. Considering that Worldcore has already delivered a number of lies and fakes a non-audited one should be nothing worth - like the EY indicative valuation of Worldcore data from 02.10.2017 - not trustable.

And what is has to be said in a reply.
As you said POTENTIALLY every financial institution even the largest of the banks could be scam - there've been enough scandals to prove it, let's take for example JP Morgan or even The Bank of America or the latest one with a Danish Danske Bank. (Keep in mind that there's in the Nordics always supposed to be the lowest level of scams and corruption - in the world's perception, but shit happenned anyway!). And because the industry is barely regulated and lacks profeesional standartization Worldcore proving their business is transparent and real joins various professional industry associations uniting the major banks and paymnet systems, for example, ABE- EBA (Euro banking association - https://www.abe-eba.eu/about-eba/eba-members/ ). Being a member of the large respectable professional industry association is not the thing scammers would do easily because industry members professional assacitions are built and stand to develop, implement and protect professional standards and codes of conduct for their members - in return to researcher194 having said "this sector is poorly regulated and barely controlable".   
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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ValarCrais
on 29/09/2018, 08:23:22 UTC
......Worldcore proving their business is transparent and real joins various professional industry associations uniting the major banks and paymnet systems, for example, ABE- EBA (Euro banking association - https://www.abe-eba.eu/about-eba/eba-members/ )    

Proves nothing and means nothing.
Pay some money and fill in a one page application form = instant "credibility".
A common tactic, see VEIAG and the UN for a recent example.

Are serious or making fools of all us posting as "an example" a bad link leading to the thread which has been removed? What were you trying to say?


You appear to be quite capable of making a fool of yourself with any assistance from me.

The linked thread has been mutilated by VEIAG to conceal their difficulty in answering simple questions about their scheme.
They claim, just like you do for Worldcore and EBA, "transparency" and credibility by association with a third party (UN Global Compact), which vets them for neither of those qualities.

No, it's you and you alone who makes the people here laugh posting bad links as so-called "proofs" and then stating something was "mutilated". Provide us with real proofs or just simply stop spamming here. Regarding ABE-EBA membership - being a member of the large respectable professional industry association is not the thing scammers would do easily because industry members professional assacitions are built and stand to develop, implement and protect professional standards and codes of conduct for their members.
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 28/09/2018, 18:32:57 UTC
And nonetheless also I would like to point that in a week we'll the court desision for the EUPSProvider lawsuit applied in defense of their business reputation against a Russian media called "Rusbase" which mentioned Worldcore as a scam in a one of their articles. The final court session is set to 02/10 and "Rusbase" is obliged by the in-bertween court desision to present to the court any evidence proving that Worldcore could be a scam. When the court desision is ready I hope some will publish it here for as an ultimate proof of the Worldcore's position.
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 28/09/2018, 18:24:36 UTC
Funnily enough in the next door thread " Worldcore Is a Scam" the topicstarter Marina Uni reported me to the moderators as a "paid bot who violates the forum's rules evades ban" for my post in defense to Worldcore. From my humble point of view this means the only one things: the paid poster Marina Uni has any real reasons to prove her so-called "point of view" but to ask the moderators too ban anyone who stands for Worldcore still!   


Nice to meet you!

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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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ValarCrais
on 28/09/2018, 18:00:10 UTC
......Worldcore proving their business is transparent and real joins various professional industry associations uniting the major banks and paymnet systems, for example, ABE- EBA (Euro banking association - https://www.abe-eba.eu/about-eba/eba-members/ )    

Proves nothing and means nothing.
Pay some money and fill in a one page application form = instant "credibility".
A common tactic, see VEIAG and the UN for a recent example.

Are serious or making fools of all us posting as "an example" a bad link leading to the thread which has been removed? What were you trying to say?

https://i.postimg.cc/2SpDfPrP/oydated.jpg
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 27/09/2018, 16:37:30 UTC
POTENTIALLY every financial institution even the largest of the banks could be scam - there've been enough scandals to prove it, let's take for example JP Morgan or even The Bank of America or the latest one with a Danish Danske Bank. (Keep in mind that there's in the Nordics always supposed to be the lowest level of scams and corruption - in the world's perception, but shit happenned anyway!). And because the industry is barely regulated and lacks profeesional standartization Worldcore proving their business is transparent and real joins various professional industry associations uniting the major banks and paymnet systems, for example, ABE- EBA (Euro banking association - https://www.abe-eba.eu/about-eba/eba-members/ )    
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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ValarCrais
on 27/09/2018, 16:33:33 UTC

I don´t think that a Payment System like credit or debit card systems, PayPal or SEPA could be scam. Yet Worldcore isn´t a Payment System but a Payment Services Provider respectively a Money Transfer Institution based on crypto/blockchain technology. All companies with this background theoretically and practically have the potential for scam because this sector is poorly regulated and barely controlable. Now to the upcoming financial report: I´m curious if this one will be audited or not. Considering that Worldcore has already delivered a number of lies and fakes a non-audited one should be nothing worth - like the EY indicative valuation of Worldcore data from 02.10.2017 - not trustable.

As you said POTENTIALLY every financial institution even the largest of the banks could be scam - there've been enough scandals to prove it, let's take for example JP Morgan or even The Bank of America or the latest one with a Danish Danske Bank. (Keep in mind that there's in the Nordics always supposed to be the lowest level of scams and corruption - in the world's perception, but shit happenned anyway!). And because the industry is barely regulated and lacks profeesional standartization Worldcore proving their business is transparent and real joins various professional industry associations uniting the major banks and paymnet systems, for example, ABE- EBA (Euro banking association - https://www.abe-eba.eu/about-eba/eba-members/ )    
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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 27/09/2018, 16:21:09 UTC
Disclaimer to all the newcomers in the forum - I'd like to explain my position and constant support to Worldcore.

I was their ICO investors when the token was looking promising. After the dramatic price drop I sold about 60% of my Worldcore tokens but decided to keep a significant amount (a bit less than $10k) to the future to observe the token development. Yes, I believe the token still has some potential because of the payment system and Worldcore.trade development - there' constant improvements going.   

As at the moment I've got 8 various investments and keep on buying and selling tokens depending on the current market situation the Worldcore price price fall isn't critical to me, I lose somewhere, then gain somewhere and again and again - this is how the cryptonarket works.

But I'm very angry when someone like Marina Uni not being an investor at all keep on posting again and again fakes and speculations on purpose about my investments, making the token's price fall down even more. I'm an investor and let me decide myself what's scam and what's not when it comes to my investments. I'll be staying in defense of Worldcore - paid hands off!  Angry       
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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ValarCrais
on 27/09/2018, 15:59:15 UTC
Once again: the investors disappointmnet doesn't make the whole project a scam. Meeting up all the investors expectations is a best case but a hardly possible scenario
Just review the quotation and my comment above carefully, it's exactly about the situation with investors expectations:

I bought these coins at 0.09 dollars on e. D.and thought that would be growth, I did not sell when they were 0.25, thought that it is very promising and now I regret, I sold them at 0.12 with a small profit and now I do not believe in this team. Maybe I'm wrong, but the price has fallen very much.

It's a very self-speaking example proving, once again, that WRC is a real thing and people blame it not for meet being a scam, but not for meeting expectations in terms of profit. 99% of the cryptocurrencies have their rises and falls and WRC is no an exception. The whole market is very volatile and barely regulated, you shouldn't put all the eggs in a single basket, you need to catch the moment, buy and sell constantly to make bigger profit. But in general this post displays the human greed well enough: you've lost nothing, you've even made a small profit doing nothing, but keep on blaming Worldcore for being not profitable up to your expectations heights.  

For example ICO rating rated Worldcore 2.9 out of 5 points which means there' hundreds of less successful tokens on market.

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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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ValarCrais
on 26/09/2018, 17:13:41 UTC
I bought these coins at 0.09 dollars on e. D.and thought that would be growth, I did not sell when they were 0.25, thought that it is very promising and now I regret, I sold them at 0.12 with a small profit and now I do not believe in this team. Maybe I'm wrong, but the price has fallen very much.

It's a very self-speaking example proving, once again, that WRC is a real thing and people blame it not for meet being a scam, but not for meeting expectations in terms of profit. 99% of the cryptocurrencies have their rises and falls and WRC is no an exception. The whole market is very volatile and barely regulated, you shouldn't put all the eggs in a single basket, you need to catch the moment, buy and sell constantly to make bigger profit. But in general this post displays the human greed well enough: you've lost nothing, you've even made a small profit doing nothing, but keep on blaming Worldcore for being not profitable up to your expectations heights.  
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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ValarCrais
on 26/09/2018, 17:11:11 UTC
"satisfied investors" Huh

marina, I have the same question to you that I ask researcher194: how can a payment system be a scam?
why are copypasting this very post everywhere? you do not answer my question!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg46146584#msg46146584
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023609.msg46177776#msg46177776

do you know that it's prohibited according to the rules? I will ask the mods to pay attention to it.



how can a scam be a payment system?

and how can a paid poster from Voronezh be a investor?


Btw, what do you mean by saying "a paid poster from Voronezh", could you explain, please?

What I can see now is that you've locked the Russian speaking thread dedicated to Worldcore from leaving any further comments there which obviously means you're quite insecure about people reaction to the topic especially in the light of the recent new - the VISA appropval, new wallets integration, the court sessions etc.
But the facts speak for themselves - Worldcore isn't a scam and it has never been.


But the facts speak for themselves  Grin



Wouldn't you like to answer my questions first?

What does "a paid poster from Voronzh" mean?

and

How could a payments system be a scam?

Thanks.

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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 26/09/2018, 16:10:22 UTC
I bought these coins at 0.09 dollars on e. D.and thought that would be growth, I did not sell when they were 0.25, thought that it is very promising and now I regret, I sold them at 0.12 with a small profit and now I do not believe in this team. Maybe I'm wrong, but the price has fallen very much.

99% of the cryptocurrencies have their rises and falls and WRC is no an exception. The whole market is very volatile and barely regulated, you shouldn't put all the eggs in a single basket, you need to catch the moment, buy and sell constantly to make bigger profit. But in general this post displays the human greed well enough: you've lost nothing, you've even made a small profit doing nothing, but keep on blaming Worldcore for being not profitable up to your expectations heights. 
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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ValarCrais
on 26/09/2018, 15:51:40 UTC
Marina, once again.

EUPSprovider provides payment solution - just simply review the company's profile at the respectable Bloomberg site.
The WRC token is a sort of a side project and not the main business.

https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=368379968 
EUPSProvider s.r.o. provides Internet-based financial services. The company offers global payment solutions, including access to bank payments, e-currency payments, prepaid debit cards, mass payments, payouts to any Visa/MasterCard credit/debit cards, and international payment processing for individuals and businesses. It also provides API/shopping cart interface services. The company was incorporated in 2013 and is based in Prague, Czech Republic.

Does anyone believe Bloomberg would enlist at it's site a profile of a company which is supposed to be a scam? Bloomberg are too serious gusy too say the least.   
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Re: WORLDCORE - A SCAM!
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ValarCrais
on 25/09/2018, 17:11:46 UTC
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The current price of WORLDCORE is much lower than that of ICO, which has greatly defeated the confidence of investors in supporting the development of WRC project.
i think all other icos suffer from that i think the market affect most coins equally


What you say is true but unlike many other coin sufferers, this project and this coin is in total agony and very soon it will die and its price will tend to die; just look at his chart and the volumes ... except the blaze of mid-January is a continuous suffering and a continuous decline .... another 6-12 months and will go towards 1 satoshi  Undecided

WRC needs to jump up to 5K at least, this will show up the company potential equity - it's reported that the team is busy working on a lot of new features.
For example at the moment there' going negotiations with BitPay  Wink

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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 24/09/2018, 16:11:20 UTC
Interestingly, this July an English-speaking resource Coinidol.com published an article “The Arrest Of The Organizer Of Crypto Currency Scam Worldcore Pavel Krymov: Deceived Depositors Are Represented By International Law Firm” - the well know approach from the Questra attackers. But subsequently, the text was changed by the editors : the editors added in the beginning, and the end of the article notes that this material is paid for by third parties, respectively, may contain false information or does not correspond to reality. Latetr upon the Worldcore's laywers request the comment changes once again: Coinidol.com faithfully explores the content of any text before the publication, mainly if it is provided by a third party and paid for as an advertisement. Coinidol.com command received information from Denis Kastin, a junior associate company “Law & Trust that there is no connection between the Worldcore, owned by EUPSProvider, and Pavel Krymov. We received validation information E&Y Consulting company EUPSProvider and a copy of the certificate that ensures compliance with the PCI DSS requirements - this means even the third parties are able to investigate and confirm that there's no any conection bewtween Worldcore and Pavel Krymov - the thing Marina Uni loves to discuss that much!   

A couple of proves to my post above, confirming stopkrymov.com is related to questra.es - by an independent service Built With, please click and review the links:

http://worldcore-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/stopkrymov-kvestra.png

http://worldcore-review.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/krymov-kvestra4.jpg

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Re: Attack On Worldcore: Who hides behind?
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ValarCrais
on 24/09/2018, 16:04:45 UTC
My points to conclude Worldcore has never been a scam.
It's very simple.

First, Worldcore doesn't practice any pump and dump schemes (just look at the WRC graphs) -  but the scams do.
Second, Wordlcore keeps on developing features - worldcore.trade has been launched, the applications are updated on regular basis, the VISA debet cards are on the way etc.
Third, Worldcore fights for it's reputation at the courts - do you know many scam doing that?

That's why I have to agree that the a lot of times mentioned above the black PR-attack from Alex Prochukhan against Worldcore has taken it's place - enough evidence to it has been collected and displayed here in the forum.

Exactly.
And one more point from me.
First of all, Worldcore is a payment system and it works, all the their own token-related activities are optional.