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Re: *BOUNTY* - easy solution I am sure
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Veldrik
on 29/05/2013, 04:13:01 UTC
lol beaten by my long winded answers again.

incidently - a sparky is an electrician.
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Re: *BOUNTY* - easy solution I am sure
by
Veldrik
on 29/05/2013, 04:12:10 UTC
Hi buddy,
that thing is for a caravan or motor home (Recreational vehicle).
Basically it allows you to run your RV (or some relatives RV) off your home powersupply.
similar to things you have in a campsite etc.

So:

Option a: without calling a sparky in, you could get the electrics from an RV from a junkyard, and drag that home - then plug it in and run all off your stuff off that power source.
This is a bad choice

Alternatively, you COULD run it off an australian/new zealand 3112 plug.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_3112
Thats what we have over here.
One variant will handle 32amps.  Pop that through an australian UPS that handles 15-32 amps and then run that into a 240v power supply (unless it spits it out at 120v)
I'd do this as I have hi amp gear here but I'm in Australia and the UPS alread handles that amperage.  Otherwise its a dumb idea

Optionally, get a transformer from somewhere in your country that drops the RV outlet into whtaever is standard for your country.
This is the safest option of these three - as if you can find a transformer that is designed to do the conversion, then thats the only safe way of doing it (without buying an RV).

However, if you don't plan on investing in a caravan - just get a sparky in and convert that 30amp plug into another phase or line that you can run not only your PCs off, but airconditioners and washing machines and high powered machining gear off, since that plug is probably in your garage.
(atleast over here, our standard output is 10 amps, with airconditioner ones at 15 amps).

So basically - buy a transformer, or get a sparky in to fix it.
30 amps is a fair whack at 120v AC.  So do something with that plug - if you have kids and no RV, just get rid of the damned thing and get it replaced by a sparky.
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Re: Anyone still buying GPUs?
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Veldrik
on 27/05/2013, 12:37:43 UTC
Recently bought two 7950 from Gigabyte with 3 fans, run great, both on 1050 Mhz, doing 555 Mhs, default vcore.
For mining and occasional gaming.
similar here - but as its winter i run up to 1100mh/s and they are currently on 64*C and peaking at 600mh/s.
I also use them for gaming - so BTC is basically a hobby and a way to pay for some of the initial cost of my hardware upgrades.
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Re: Gigabyte 7950 (GV-R795WF3-3GD) Config Thread
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Veldrik
on 25/05/2013, 03:07:47 UTC


I also underclock my ram to 310mhz - running on server 2008 r2 sp1

Which utility do you use to get your RAM that low?  Is there a way to allow it to be done from within cgminer?

I just use MSI After burner (beta).
I have catalysts overclocking disabled.

The only problem is that MSI Afterburner does not keep the settings after a reboot.

Anyways, I run AB as admin, set the maximum clock speed and then drop the memory down to 600 or 620 depending on the card.
Hit apply, and do it to all of the cards (I mix 7950 and 7870s).  Then I exit
Reload AB and then I drop it again to 300 or 310.
Hit apply, then exit (or leave it running, but I jsut exit it).
My settings are:

-Enable hardware control and monitoring
-Enable low level hardware access interface - set to user mode
-Disable ULPS
-Unofficial overclocking mode without powerplay support

I don't change the voltage on the board, as I haven't needed to as yet (and if I ever need to - I just wont overclock that high)

I don't bother with start with windows etc - as it doesn't remember the settings anyways when unofficial overclocking mode is enabled.
That means that my ram speed always starts at default (although cg can drop it by 150).  I then have to load  up AB and set it to 300/310.
However I can RDP or tight vnc to it from work or from my phone, and its stable enough that it barely resets.  I have caught it blue screening and forcing a reset twice though, and once I had to ring up and get my wife to do a physical reset when its TCPIP stack appeared to have died (couldn't RDP or VNC in, or PSEXEC to it, yet it was still mining)

To get unofficial overclocking mode running, I had to change an ini file.  After that happened, and the EULA popped up, and closed and reopened, I then closed it again and did a reboot.  After that it came good - except that it now no longer stores settings/profiles.
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Re: Gigabyte 7950 (GV-R795WF3-3GD) Config Thread
by
Veldrik
on 22/05/2013, 22:46:04 UTC
How many pins do your PCI-E power headers have?

2x6pins are revision 1 cards running on the original 7950 boards (which apparently ATI never gave a reference for)
the 1x6 + 1x8 is the revision 2 card - it runs on a 7970 board.  That extra power might add to your stability.

I use a rev 2 and it hasn't ever failed (admitedly I have never pushed it past 1200mhz).

I also underclock my ram to 310mhz - running on server 2008 r2 sp1
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Re: What is the best 7950 card for mining?
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Veldrik
on 22/05/2013, 22:42:46 UTC
My 7950 Windforce 3GB OCs manage 610-630 kh/s each and I don't overclock or undervolt.
I also use Gigabyte cards.
7870 OC latest rev
7950 WindForce revision 2.  (windforce is the non OC version - same fan as the OC, yet comes at a lower clock)

7950 Windforce Revision 2 from Gigabyte do not come on reference 7950 PCBs though, they come on a 7970PCB.

Mine all happy overclock - but I do underclock the ram to reduce temperature and save around 20watts per card down to 300 or 310mhz.

My 7870s pull up to 550mhash (I mine bitcoins) and my 7950s gather up to around 650mhs.

However as I like to run at around 60*C, I have them auto tune and they run at 400 and 550mhash respectively.
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Re: Computer Caught Fire!
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Veldrik
on 21/05/2013, 01:18:53 UTC
LOL we had a gigabyte motherboard at work have that happen, except it burnt directly through the PCB.  It was still ammusing.
It was replaced with another gigabyte motherboard (RMA - but upgraded from a 1157 to a 1155 motherboard and a new chip, so it was a nice upgrade for a 2 year old MB).
No troubles with any other gigabyte stuff so far.
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Re: [2Th]Ozcoin Pooled Mining |DGM 1%|PoT 2%|Stratum+VarDiff port 80
by
Veldrik
on 20/05/2013, 21:36:28 UTC
Just looked at my logs/history for the night, and I had around 3 hours of invalid shares overnight.  it's all good now, but it was a bit strange to see.
on the plus side, its so cold that my cards where running 15*C cooler than usual!
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Re: Can you build this cheaper?
by
Veldrik
on 20/05/2013, 03:18:00 UTC
PS - I missed the 2 previous posts by the time I finished typing, also I assumed you were getting 4 7850s which would be jsut faster than 2 7950s or 3 7870s.  As you are only getting 3 7850s they will fit on one motherboard, but you might as well just get 2 7850s, which would be cheaper and produce the same mhash, or 2 7950s for a similar cost ($300 for a gigabyte I picked up on friday - and we don't even get rebates in Australia!) and produce the equivieltn of 4 of those 7950s with better power consumption and less heat generation, and way better airflow/heat disipation.
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Re: Can you build this cheaper?
by
Veldrik
on 20/05/2013, 03:15:35 UTC
yes and no - with those specific parts I would spend more for the cards and less on the motherboard/cpu (I'm in Australia).

However overall, if you are mining BTC and the computer will never be used for anything else (such as gaming) and you want to get cheaper consider:
dropping the CPU to a
  • dual core and slowest as you can realistically afford (an AM2+)
    dropping the motherboard to a am2+ models, but also with 4 pcie (as many pxiex16 sized as possible, otherwise you have to use risers or an additional power source which may introduce some burnout unless you have good quality cables - I Think its 25watts for x1, and 75watts for a x16.  Also, as you have 4 cards (even though they are 7850s) you might end up running to much voltage through the motherboard (although the Ultra Durable 3 boards seem good so far for myself, but I don't run 4 cards on one motherboard)
    Optinoally, just replace multiple 7850s with an 7870 (pictairn) or bump up to a 7950.  Atleast over here, for mhash and power comsumption, the 7870 and the 7950 are the most efficient, for mhash to base price, and mhash to power usage.  I was considering 7850s aswell, but hte 7870 blew it out of the water, as did a 7950 (which uses the newer tahiti chips).  Don't forget that all because you can cram 4 cards into one rig without risers, doesn't necessarily make it that good if you can get 2 or 3 other cards to do the same job, with better better thermal and power efficiencies and a similar base cost.  It also means you can then sell them off later - or atleast use them for an overkill crossfire system jsut for gaming and running 16 monitors off for some reason.  Smiley

Basically, as you are using GPU mining, you really want a system that is:
cost effective vs total mhash
won't be a peice of junk in the corner of your garage if you stop mining any time soon

That leads to for the first point, you want the overall mhash to be high and the cost and power consumption to be low (The later is a huge factor over here where we pay around $0.30/kw/hour in USD.)
For the second point, odds are that if you ever do game on an AMD card, you won't use more than 2 cards in Crossfire. Or even one card.  So you have a bunch of spare cards - so if you don't use them you want to sell em.

Out of the box, a stock 7850 will reap around 260mhash/s.  a 7870 will do around 390mhash/s  7950 wil do around 430 mhash/s
When overclocked, to 1100mhz for the 7850, 7950 and 1200 for the 7870, you will get:  7850=340m#/s, 7870=460m#/s, and 7950=590m#/s
You could push it higher, but thats what I run and they stay pretty cool (even though I run them all in the same case - I get 64*C, except on the top card which gets all the heat from the lower cards which runs at 68*C.  I haven't been bothered to split them out of the case yet - but when stand alone they run at around 50 to 55*C.

So basically for a 4 gpu system with 7850s, you pull in 1350 m#/s.  Thats around 10% faster than running 2 7950s.  It will also consume, around 600watts give or take, where 2 7950s will do around 400. (3 7870s will probably draw around 450).  Due to higher power going through them you will also generate more temperature (think of it as a 600watt heater compared to a 400watt heater).
The GPUs that you are looking at have 2 fans each only.  If you pick up a 3 fan 7950 or 7870 (which atleast the Gigabyte ones come with), you would most usually push through more air - which is important if you stick them close together - as that motherboard can take 3 double width GPUs you may atleast do that for 3 of the cards and a riser on the 4th.  Stick two on there and you shold be fine, and the other two on risers.  They will still get hot though.
Anyways, so your pulling more power and generating more heat which you have to disipate, or just use more risers and a bigger box.
So atleast compare the cost of 3 7870 pictairns, or 2 7950 tahitis or above for a replacement to those four 7850s
Additionally, 2 7950s on that board at the furthest gap would let you mount them with 3 rails space between them without risers, all running off the power from the motherboard and one Powersupply, with space to sapre if you ever want to stick on 2 more cards (assuming you are using windows where it appears to be a four card limit).  Also, if you let the motherboard lay flat (desktop style!) your heat would disipate away from the rig, as opposed to the next card in tower orienation.  2 cards also means less dummy plugs or cables going to your monitor if you go that path.
And to boot, your power supply would last longer, or optinoally, you could drop down to an 900watt bronze, as you would still be around the 50% mark for long life efficiency.  Or stay at that 1200watt giving room to spare in the future.
As for the ram, I'd personally get 4gb if you plan on using windows.  It just runs better if you ever have to actually use it and its pretty cheap.

I hope this helps a bit.
But otherwise, good price hunting!
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Re: [2Th]Ozcoin Pooled Mining |DGM 1%|PoT 2%|Stratum+VarDiff port 80
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Veldrik
on 17/05/2013, 05:25:56 UTC
I started at ozcoin, and as it's the only australian owned server I'll stick with it too.  Nice ping times too - not that it matters with stratum and high speed links, but from a geek point of view - yay!
But I am still surprised though that the asic miners don't all move across too ozcoin - it's an extra 1.5% on dgm for example, and that adds up.
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Re: BitMinter cgminer config help please
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Veldrik
on 17/05/2013, 01:25:24 UTC
ps - one more thing - check your firewall
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Re: BitMinter cgminer config help please
by
Veldrik
on 17/05/2013, 01:24:43 UTC
Hi,

Since LTC became way less profitable then BTC, i figured i switch for a while.
Looking at different threads i setup my script like this:

cgminer -o stratum+tcp://mint.bitminter.com:3333 -u User_Worker -p xxx --thread-concurrency 8192,8000 --gpu-fan 85,50 -I 18,18 -w 256 -g 1

This yields some weird result:
http://i.imgur.com/xwvzoWD.png

Not accepting any shares. Any hints on what i could be doing wrong? (using cgminer 2.11.4)

Thanks

Hi buddy,
first thing, try another pool.

Your startup looks fine, however this is what you should get pretty much straight away:



Code:
[2013-05-17 11:22:38] Started cgminer 3.1.0
 [2013-05-17 11:22:38] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
 [2013-05-17 11:22:40] Probing for an alive pool
 [2013-05-17 11:22:41] Network diff set to 11.2M
Notice the time stamps.

I'd also recommend updating cgminer.

I persoanlly use ozcoin and stratum serversas my primary, and in the above example.
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Re: [2Th]Ozcoin Pooled Mining |DGM 1%|PoT 2%|Stratum+VarDiff port 80
by
Veldrik
on 17/05/2013, 00:58:09 UTC
Welcome back Graet!
I'm the bloke from Sydney that spoke to you on the phone once.

Regarding WeExchange, is that still operational for withdrawals within Australia Graham?


As for the rest of us, I had a query.
I noticed that the pools GH/s was droping on and off (halving every now and then).  That got me spooked a bit, so I quickly looked around an logged into BTCGuild which I never connect to, as it has the largest pool that I know of.  It's pool number seemed stable, but I noticed that their fees were higher (3.5% for PPLNS compared to Grahams/Ozcoins 3% (or 2% if you have it dropped).  Even the PPS was 7 compared to Ozcoin at 5 when it was up and running, and I couldn't figure out why there are so many other pools with higher fees yet with more miners.  Does any body else have a theory or is it just pure laziness?

Seeya all around.

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Re: Windows 7 Server Edition for Mining Rig?
by
Veldrik
on 17/05/2013, 00:39:39 UTC
Hi Vuli,
I think that depends on the person to be honest.

My main reasons are:
 * I have a rediculous amount of licenses for Windows and it's server counterparts ranging from 2.0 up to 8
 * Ease of usage.  Setting up a windows box is dead easy for CGMiner and ATI cards.  Just install windows onto a VHD, set it up in BCDEdit and then boot to it.  Stick in the ATI drivers and afterburner, cgminer, drop your conf file like usual, and if you have to, force a hardware overclock.  Setting up a linux live distro with permanent storage on a usb stick when you don't have any optical drives, and getting drivers etc on to it involes more effort.
 * If using windows to go, do the same, you can then duplicate the stick and put it in any pc you come across, regardless of hardware (unless you OC, then you have to OC each PC differently)
 * if you are using the newer generation with any of hte newer Core intels (and I Think some of the AMD processors), you'll also get better power management.  Although 5 kw/hr isn't a huge boost, but it helps.
 * I play games on server if I can't be bothered rebooting.  Just come on in, and let my games run through an NVidia card I have attached to the rig.  The AMD/ATI cards mine, my NVidia card lets me play games through steam.
 * HyperV, RDP support and software - I can use the same machine for work when I need to, so I don't have to stop any of my machines from mining when I work from home.

Additionally I'm an engineer, so apart from being able to design hardware for better cooling etc, I also program - and for the past 10 years I've primarly dealt with Windows and Server coutnerpart platforms, so when I want to write some UDP controls, or modify some hardware to remotely reset computers (instead of having to use ILO through a HP server) I can do that too, or jsut control CG miner, and give it a nice pretty gui to boot in comparitively less time that it would take me to write the same for linux.  I also find it easier to automate and rewrite whatever I need to.
I also use any machine in an idle state to run CGminer or Cudaminer over SMB, no rebooting required - just let them go.

These reasons would be different for different people - but in general from what I've seen people like using windows due to ease, and practibility if they are multitasking (ie using it for mining AND something else they would normally use their PC for).

Windows Server editions compared to the non server editions can be similar or different however.
2008 R2 is SIMILAR to 7, but not everything is the same.  However in general most stuff will work in both.
Windows 8 and Server 2012 are more closely related however as they share alot more common code - and an annoying metro start screen.  So you can basically use either of them after you uninstall all the metro crap.

As for stability - I've actually found that the ATI drivers run better under Server R2SP1 than Win7 when overclocked.
Under R2SP1 each of my gigabyte 7870s get around 550 to 600mh/s using cgminer for btc.  (I had a sapphire, but it was pretty much a dud when it wasn't underclocked so I got rid of it for about $60 profit).   I can't overclock it to that point in Win7 or linux live (never botherd to boot into win8 on that computer as I don't have guild wars 2 installed on it), once they hit around 1150mhz they start to die and don't mine above 470mh/s stabiliy.

So, casting a general assumption, I'd say that server R2SP1 appears more stable than windows 7 for ati mining due to less load on the GPU (my win7 build is overburndend by a rediculous amount of software - it's been running since 2 weeks before public release on a sig edition win7 build).  It appears to run better than linux out of the box due to availability of the newer ATI Beta drivers which seemed to fix a bunch of errors that my cards suffered on the release builds.

So that in general could be a few reasons why some people prefer windows.

Another reason is that people can't be bothered learning (or re-learning linux) after using windows for so long Smiley
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Re: Windows 7 Server Edition for Mining Rig?
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Veldrik
on 16/05/2013, 06:51:45 UTC
PS - I have had no troubles running CGminer (except the initial conf file setup etc) on Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012.  My additional servers use them,just my primary is still on 2008R2SP1.
Also, give Windows2Go a whirl if you want to stay on the windows route. I'm moving mine eventually to Windows 8 on Windows 2 Go sticks.  Even on USB2 it should be all fine - except for the long boot times.
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Re: Windows 7 Server Edition for Mining Rig?
by
Veldrik
on 16/05/2013, 06:45:03 UTC
I use server 2008 R2 SP1 with the latest beta ATI drivers.
Works fine.
I run mine in gui mode so I don't have to bother about using System account, so I've set it to auto login, with no lock time.
You may have to install the drivers manually, as by default catalyst didn't want to install openCL.  Just go find the MSI and run it.
I also use mine as a HyperV box, hence not running it as server 2012 as yet because, well basically, I don't need to as yet and can't be bothered.
If I add a second machine I'll put this one back as my standard desktop, dev and gaming machine, and I will run my miner on either server 2012 or server 2012 with no gui (datacentre).

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Re: Litecoin build for noobs: 3x 7950s (1.8 MH/s) in a $10 crate case
by
Veldrik
on 14/05/2013, 01:01:38 UTC
About to assemble my first rig. I'll call it the TacoMiner, as a tribute.

Last question : can I use a flash drive instead of the SATA HD ? I want to start with a windows system first though, I need to study up before I can use the linux command line interface.

No, you can't use a flash drive for installing windows. You can only do that with linux.

I know this is a really old post - but yes, yes you can install windows from a flash drive, onto a flash drive - depending upon what version of the boot loader you use and if you opt to use VHDs or not etc etc.
Windows 8/server 2012 is easier to setup than windows 7 however for booting from a flash drive though, as you can just use windows 2 go.
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Re: What's your Mhash/s? (Pissing contest here)
by
Veldrik
on 10/05/2013, 21:15:13 UTC
I've got my 7870 (gigabyte 7870 OC) bouncing between 490mh/s and 550mh/s. temperature is around 58*C to 63*c, which inturn runs the fan from 38% up to 68% between those temperatures.  It's consuming around 140w/h.
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Re: Best 7950 / manufacturer, comparasion table
by
Veldrik
on 10/05/2013, 03:36:57 UTC
Hi guys, regarding 7950s, I just got my bonus, and thought about adding another card to my existing 7870 (which draws around 150watts, and pulls around 520mh/s avg (490-550)) for BTC.

I can grab a GV-R795WF3-3GD for $299 if I pick it up from the store directly, but I'm not sure if that is a good deal or not for a 7950.  Any comments?


PS I can get another GV-R787OC-2GD for $225 as a comparison, and GV-R797OC-3GD are $397