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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 24/05/2018, 10:27:12 UTC


If you have "cure" for "problem" I described, I assume that all miners of DTC would agree that must be first patch or fork.


Unfortunately I don't have cure for it.


But I don't think it is important problem.

Coin must be designed for constantly increasing popularity and difficulty and for long time distances.

Such variations of difficulty in scale of days (and weeks, may be month) it is a small noise. Sorry for this my opinion.

May be block reward must not be defined by difficulty.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 23/05/2018, 21:08:03 UTC
DATACOIN is fork of Primecoin, and as is DATACOIN has same "problems" as Primecoin. Algo like that has probably never been written for such big difficulty. Algo spec is 60 block per hours, so one block per minute. When in DATACOIN network only small rig with 5-6Khash start to mining, difficulty will start to rise . But when that rig left network, then problem is big: difficulty DOESNOT fall as was rise. And that is situation we have now. Difficulty is to high for this hash rate of whole network, and probably will need one or two months to get stable, to stabilize on 60 blocks per hour. That is main, and only problem this algo have. Could be fixed, I dont know, but it should be fixed

We want many good options and features.

But any such patches require hardforks.

It can be more simpler and meaningful not to make so much patches to dtc (it is difficult), but take anyone other already good coin and make fork by integrate datasaving functionality to it.

I know dtc code. Such integration can be made fast and enough simple.

But any way. Before trying it we need to make much preliminary work to define all needed features and options. It is needed to avoid any subsequent forks.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 23/05/2018, 12:08:37 UTC
DataSea
I am not specialist, I am not person how network is working, but I see that network has big difficulty with work. Since block reward time is 60 second, that mean network should resolve 60 blocks per hour. But if you count blocks in block explorer it is from 33 to 53 blocks per hours. So I dont know how your testing should affect network, but I hope network will survive! Smiley
What difficulty algorithm do you want?

Unfortunately dtc can successfully mining on GPU now.
I think anti GPU protection is more important.

It would be very interesting to find highly parallel algorithm with anti GPU protection. It is a little contradictory demand. But it is very interesting issue.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 20/05/2018, 11:19:04 UTC
Dtc (and primecoin) has interesting coin emission algorithm. The block reward very quickly drops with difficulty growing.

It seems the dtc is designed to make rich the first miners, but not next miners.

It seems not very fair.

Dtc has no active development team.

It seems there are a few interested people. But they are not active developers. They just see, talk and wait.

There are a few big holders. And they don't want to change something. They prefer the dtc death then to lost their coins. They just see, talk and wait too.

Twitter site has many repeated and pretentious messages. I don't want to hurt somebody,  but It is seems as scam. It is very bad for dtc reputation.

If nothing changed - dtc will die.

At present I help and will help to dtc.

You can hate me. But if nothing changed - I will think about create a new dev team for new coin with the same data saving ideology but without such unfair emission algorithm and without such hard legacy.


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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 21:28:49 UTC
Note that Apertus does this -- it is dynamic and active on the chain in real time.
It uses the Root ID to extract etchings that Apertus created -- you simply put the Root ID into the browser box -- Apertus is linked in real time with Datacoin -- it then pulls it up.

Good. For popularity it must be user friendly and very simple.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 21:25:31 UTC
See at this link Verionum -- I etched your original High Performance wallet on Datacoin using Apertus Smiley
http://bitfossil.org/eb9fe7f73fb7fa02893332a43e096df5791a5cf9ab6c93299322ba7e83698e5a/index.htm

You could do the etching yourself with your own identity anchor (it's a feature of Apertus), and it will forever be known it was your contribution.
But note I did this etching without any signature at all, and etched it with full attribution to you.


Good.

It is making dynamically? For any transaction hash?

I think we need it in transparent way. Without open other site in browser.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 21:17:44 UTC

And absolutely you can use bitFossil for embeding images -- where do you think that image i posted came from?  Wink
i merely put the image tags around http://bitfossil.org/615c5a19e660c179fd87ecdb2feca8a95a290a289147076400242837706bab6c/Eclipse%20Wind%20River%20Valley%20August%2021%202017%20by%20TheAtomSea.jpg  Grin

Please check out the code of Apertus -- I think you'll approve Smiley -- and what you don't like, i look forward to you fixing <3


I mean can it dynamically extract the images from datacoin blockchain by arbitrary correct transaction hash and return it as jpeg file?
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 19:38:02 UTC


What we need to do is to add anonymity and smart contracts to Datacoin.  That is how relatively small coins like Neo and Sumokoin gained prominence. 



I don't have such expirience. Can smart contracts be realized over dtc raw data storage? May be similar with realization of file systems over raw hdd storage.

If it is possible then it would be done without any fork.

Generally many ideas can be realized over raw dtc storage without any fork.

It is possible to create any different additional blokchains stored into dtc raw storage ) And it is very cool idea, I think.


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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 19:12:22 UTC
My main fear is following.

The dtc source code is open (and it is good).

But anyone can use this code to make his own fork, his own new blockchain, his own coin with other algorithm and with similar data saving idea.

I can do it. But I don't want it. But we need to do something.

And it is not obligatory scam developer. It can be serious developer or development team.

Why such team would help us with dtc? Why such team would use the current dtc? Dtc doesn't have significant audience.

It is more meaningful for them to create a new project.

Dtc can die at any moment if someone create such project. It can be more attractive for new users.

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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 18:48:05 UTC
It is very interesting. How many excitements. People defend their investments.
hehe )))

Main question.

Can bitfossil.org allow dtc images redirecting for embedding the images in pages on other sites?

For example to embed any such images in post of this forum?


Returning to flood )

Stabilizing is very good. I don't assert anything final. I just try to  reveal some of possible problems.

For example for few previous years a few users was mining dtc.

DTC was almost dead. Now it may reborn.

But the situation is very strange.

It is different from premine. But it is a little similar with premine. But it is like a super premine for a few years!

It can turn away many of new users.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 15:10:01 UTC
Finally. The single file saving rules are impossible and not needed.

Blockchain with "nonstrongruled and nonmetadata" data is already exist.

I think it is normal to create tool for saving files with some elementary algorithms without metadata.

It is not prevent to create some other saving algorithms with metadata a little later.

All this algorithms can be and must be to live in peace. )))

And it is normal. )
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 15:02:33 UTC
There are many new altcoins with many additional functionality at present time. Such additional functionality is strong ruled in their blockchain rules. I think many of such functionality can be realized over dtc blockchain because of its very raw data storage nature.

But many of dtc applications cannot be realized in such altcoins in reverse order. It is because of such additional blockchain level rules.

If metadata means such blockchain levels rules that limit application of dtc or add overhead then I against it.

May be I still misunderstood something.

I think it is not possible to create standard metadata rules and demand its obeying to all users. And it is normal.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 14:50:37 UTC

Okay, my vagueness at fault: Datacoin (in common with torrenthash) has only structural metadata, there is no descriptive metadata and that's what's blocking the development of a "nice little app" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metadata)

I have understood now. But I think it is very good that data storage metadata are not included in blockchain rules. It allows freedom to users.

It is not weakness of dtc. It is a power of dtc. It can be used by many different ways without metadata overhead because of such fundamentally raw storage.

DTC offer only very raw storage. It allows to use dtc for very general various purposes.


It is good that ordinary hdd don't restrict users with one filesytem.
But users can make and have any selected filesystem above raw hdd structure.

Dtc can be used the same way. Someone want metadata. So he create your own standard for data and use it. If this standard is useful then other users use it also.

But if someone wants another standard then he makes it.

If someone wants encrypted non understandable (by other) data then he makes so.

Finally. I agree that data structure rules can be very useful, but I think it must not be included in blockchain rules. It must be user side rules. But of course many users can be in agreed and share the same rules for same purposes (f.e. for file saving).

But if someone wants and can to use dtc for some very mad purpose he can make it over dtc blockchain. And he will not have unnecessary metadata overhead.

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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 11:20:38 UTC

I don't see the relevance of these statements to the issue that binary data is impenetrable. All you can do is try one parsing after another until .... oh, a dickpic (or something).


May be I have misunderstood you. For example. File is cut into parts. These parts saved into blockchain one by one. Each part is saved with hash of previous saving transaction. Finally file is addressed by hash of the last part transaction.

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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 11:13:43 UTC

Another perspective is to note that 2 billion Datacoin will be issued over the next 500 years,

Bravo )))))))
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 09:35:20 UTC
The message you're sending to anyone with any DTC right now is to dump them before it is too late.

Think about it.
If the destiny of dtc is speculated by my words, defined by my words, then dtc is already dead.

The destiny of dtc must be defined not by my words but by users own thoughts.

You hate political maneuvers. I hate it also. But I hate lie and suppression also.

I think the true talking is useful.

If true talking can kill dtc so it must be.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 09:32:36 UTC
I don't know who has the 11M DTC nor do I think it matters.
Nonetheless, I will fiercely protect my meager interests in DTC from any political maneuvers to devalue them.

Sometimes the such named "political maneuvers" can be simply the wishing for help.

It does not mean that they always are )

But the protection from the "political maneuvers" must not be blind.

If such protection prevents the progress of humanity so it is silly.

I don't know which solution solves the current dtc problem.

But we all must seriously think about it.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 09:19:33 UTC

You're referring to the genesis of a new network which forks Datacoin for economic reasons.

The same thing has happened a thousand times before where a developer says, "Let's make a new coin but do something different -- this time I'll be the one who gets rich."
Unfortunately the dtc is economic entity by design. And economic reason is important for new users.

But when dtc can die at any moment we must think more about new users, not current holders, not me.

I understand your objection, but there are another problems, that can kill dtc. And sometimes fork can rescue the idea.

Noone wants to pay for previous years holders with 11 mln coins. He does it only if dtc is already popular, but it is not.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 09:05:19 UTC
        - because a track record exists of securing the data since November of 2013.
        - because the whole point of the network is persistent storage.

    A fork of the network starting life by saying "let's delete all of the persistent storage" is going to attract no one.
May be it is a necessary sacrifice for make dtc alive.

May be such sacrifice is better than death of dtc.

May be such sacrifice is better to be made now, than later.

And new we can store all of old data in new blockchain with ordinary saving data procedure. Miners can make it. They will pay commission, but they get this commission back while mining correspondent storage blocks.

I don't sure all of it. But it is a big doubts.
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Re: [ANN] Datacoin - Censorship-Free Data Storage
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Verionum
on 19/05/2018, 08:55:38 UTC
but it isn't any meaningful amount really.
Yes. it is.


And it's truth that this coin has big distribution issues. This 11mln we don't even know, if that's an exchange 11mln or one entity.
It looks abandoned for now.

Sometime it can be occurred not abandoned and can provoke big selling and crashing dtc price.