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Re: MINERS UNITE! Block the FBI coins. Do not fund violent underground organizations
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WarriorOfTheLight
on 13/06/2014, 02:15:27 UTC
Isnt it impossible to "block" coins. What kind of bullshit is that.

If it is possible(which would be pretty damn stupid), then do not block the fbi coins....would look pretty stupid for bitcoin overall if that ever happened.

It is possible for the coins to be blocked.  Just like it is possible for the FBI to give them to Seans Outpost.  It COULD happen.  It just won't.  
QFT and all that needs to be said, really.
Don't be so sure. Eventually it will happen. And first signs are already there. Prioritizing transactions gets done. De-prioritizing (to zero) will come.
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Re: MINERS UNITE! Block the FBI coins. Do not fund violent underground organizations
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WarriorOfTheLight
on 13/06/2014, 01:43:04 UTC
Selling Bitcoins means also lower price for your Bitcoins! The money printers will not last for ever. Let's start early.
Mining pools collaborating to censor transactions will send the price of bitcoin to zero, which is a lot lower than any price the US gov is going to achieve.

Mining pools attempting to censor transactions without near-universal support will spell the end for those mining pools, while everyone else carries on.

At best I'm going to have to assume that you're misguided and failing to think this through. We don't need to change your mind or convince you to stop because the overwhelmingly likely outcome of any attempt to do this is failure. At this point this thread is just noise, like many before it that have sought to ban a certain class of transactions for idealogical reasons.

Miners chose Mining Pools. Mining Pools already prefer transactions based on their included fee among other things. The majority always carries on.

Start differentiating, offer real choice! No blind obedience. Do especially not pray to the blockchain hoping that this will solve every problem magically!

If the majority of the miners decide to block (and not censor) transactions it is their decision.

This is not only a ideological reason. It is a very practical too. Here we can show that we have power. Power which is not anymore under control of the "government".
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Re: MINERS UNITE! Block the FBI coins. Do not fund violent underground organizations
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WarriorOfTheLight
on 13/06/2014, 01:28:30 UTC
I don't want to block the coins, I want to watch the US government make the terrible mistake of trading precious BTC for worthless fiat this early in the fiat->crypto transition, so we can all later laugh at them for their folly.

I want the clever folks who buy these coins to make out like bandits at the FBI's expense. This will be a "stupid government" joke for the rest of history.
Good one. I prefer to make fun of the "government" for thinking that they own the silkroad coins.

The blockchain is neutral. It is up to payment accepters to filter out Bitcoins.
This is not anymore possible after the coins circulate again. Now is the time.

How boring. This has already been discussed (at length, multiple times) and it hasn't happened. Get some fresh ideas.

“Nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come”, Sir Victor Hugo 1852

The organization you speak of has those coins because the operator of the marketplace was unable to protect themselves even though fantastic tools were (are) available.

How about starting a campaign to teach people to protect themselves instead.
You should start this campaign which I will support. It is your idea. People make mistakes. This is their nature.



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Re: MINERS UNITE! Block the FBI coins. Do not fund violent underground organizations
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WarriorOfTheLight
on 13/06/2014, 01:18:14 UTC
The FBI will get the money they need to continue their crap whether they get it from selling bitcoins or from the money printers.
Selling Bitcoins means also lower price for your Bitcoins! The money printers will not last for ever. Let's start early.

Plus, singling out coins and designating them "bad" is a very unsavory president to set. What happens when the coins someone want to mark isn't such a bad thing? Let's keep freedom free and be a good example, not play their game of attempted control.
We have influence. It is your choice what freedom is. Freedom from freedom? Freedom from violence? Do not trust algorithms blind. Otherwise you will end up in the matrix.
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Re: MINERS UNITE! Block the FBI coins. Do not fund violent underground organizations
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WarriorOfTheLight
on 13/06/2014, 00:58:16 UTC
this idea seems like it would set a dangerous precedent. If people decide to start blocking coins doesn't that defeat the purpose of bitcoin?
Therefore you need to define your purpose of Bitcoin. My purpose is probably not your purpose.
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MINERS UNITE! Block the FBI coins. Do not fund violent underground organizations
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WarriorOfTheLight
on 13/06/2014, 00:42:11 UTC
Miners, now it is your turn.

A US-tax-funded violent underground organization is about to sell Bitcoins which got robbed from a innovative San Francisco startup, a marketplace which was creating a better because more peaceful world! A marketplace which put users, transparency, safety and quality first and not outdated laws and bureaucracy. A marketplace which enriched our private private lives and helped us having a better time together in love and peace. A marketplace which was ultimately against violence, guns, corruption, distrust and obfuscation.

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Silk Road Reduced Violence in the Drug Trade, Study Argues - http://www.wired.com/2014/06/silk-road-study/


America's war on drugs is lost. We all know it! It is time to stop it before it does further harm to the people of this world.

Let's face it. Most likely only two people have the power to block the silkroad coins (https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH) from being sold. They are the operators of the biggest pools: Ghash.io and BTCguild. Together they have more than 51% of the networks hashing power. If they do not want to (because they might be already saturated) all we need to do is to convince the majority of the miners to join other pools which do following...

HOWTO :: Technically speaking the ming pool operators need to (1) block all new transactions which are descendants of the silkroad coins which were located once on 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH and (2) do not accept new blocks which contain such transactions as part of the longest chain (which you mine on).

The Bitcoin protocol remains unchanged and allows by definition such interventions. It is time to use them for the benefit of our society. And it will be a race. Let the longest chain win!

MINERS UNITE! It is finally time to stop violent tax-funded underground organizations like the FBI from exploiting the people who they were once supposed to protect! Do not let people who stay totally in dark take away more of your wealth for themselves and projects which will further limit your freedom! Join mining pools which block the silkroad coins until the legitimate owner gets access to them back or at least a fair and public trial happened!

@ Developers :: Build patches for mining pools which follow the HOWTO. Build also patches for the wallets which consider transactions invalid which originated from the FBI address or at least warn users after having received such transactions. Make it easy for people to express their opinion on this topic through software!

The blockchain is not neutral.

It would not exist without hard working people.

People who love freedom and honest behavior.

Good people.

It is time for your vote.