Well she busted that win ,  so roughly $30,000.  I believe she only withdrew a small portion on Saturday after the initial hit. And yes I get human psychology and impulsiveness and self control but sometimes in her defense having that sort of money dangled that is or is not going to get paid when you have put your trust into Bitvest can weigh on your mind so much it can in itself be mentally exhausting.  Every 10 mins checking to see if they refused the wallet. If she busted it just to get the false hope that it may never come out of her head to give her some peace and closure (it’s never coming now).  All that said LL, Promo, Zodiac are not good,  their greed is their shame and they do not deserve the loyal base they have built. I would encourage whatever powers that be to flag Bitvest in whatever way you see fit on this board to warn others not to get involved with them. 

WL

It pains me to say this but with the amount of times LightLord has been alerted, members requesting , threads and chat.  Totally not responding is enough of a red flag to say that the BV players got beat out of their money. 
The only 2 explanations are he does know and he isn’t paying , or he cares so little about Bitvest and players that he isn’t going to know and won’t ever pay ,either way he is culpable and should be labeled a scammer at this point. 
Lightlord you should be ashamed of yourself, it’s people mind you that degrade the trust of others and gives everyone a bad name. 

WL

If they don’t pay her soon I would support whatever you’re talking about but I personally am not the one who wasn’t paid, just a free token player to kill time.  I do chat and see the absolute exasperation of the players waiting to withdrawal their money.  When it passed the 4 day point I wanted to express my concern and quite honestly as a person who has actually feelings I feel terrible knowing she could use the cash out. There may be a day where he doesn’t pay. I may get torched for this but think of the places that were great and reputable until they weren’t.  FTX , MT GOX , and on a smaller scale vendors on websites that are 100% perfect feedback until they decide it’s time to exit (Silk Road Documentary reference). Point is there may be a day where he does exit scam and is testing the tolerance of players to see how long they will deposit until they stop to get an idea of when the best time to do it would be. It would not be the first time it has been done and certainly won’t be the last if it is. All that said I hope she is made whole because she is genuinely a good person and shared a huge amount of her win with people on there.   

WL

That is the win I made the acct to post about.  The fact she has already lost money just by the drop in ltc value since her win is over $1000. My question to the more savvy members on the board.  At what point does it go from delaying payment to tilting toward a scam & if labeled a scam what does that do besides lump them in with the rest on the scam list ?  Lastly I know everyone says they always pay, until they don’t. Lots of businesses are legit until they aren’t (FTX) so them making their players whole is not etched in stone it is still a very real possibility or they wait it out until she loses it.


Cheers

WL

Normally I would never take the time to make an account on a forum I dont plan to use ,  but this time I think the situation needs another voice.  I have not lost anything to BV. I restrict myself to just playing with tokens and chatting. However recently the Hot Wallet issues have gotten out of hand in chat to the point of unbearable.  LL or Promo need to adress this sooner rather than later.  A player recently won a huge amount of ltc  600-900 from what i have been seeing.  She cannot w/d and its sort of sad to see people literally begging for Promo to refill the wallet, even worse it seeing her post screenshots of her balance dwindling because she is raining LTC on people trying to get his attention,  transferring other coins to wallets and getting them locked etc and slowly gambling them away.  When 30-40 of the active players every other chat request is for Promo to fill a wallet so a player can w/d tens of thousands of dollars is where I draw my line and say something.  Even the mods have dried up to the point of only seeing them once in a blue moon.  Not sure about support ticket replies but from the chat they are being closed unanswered or just ignored. 

Cheers

WL