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Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero scam
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XMRFanboy
on 04/09/2014, 03:01:43 UTC
This is just what he admits too.  I would consider it to be much more.
11 mins ago   rpietila   Somebody wanted to know this so here you go - my xmr trading since it first hit 470 (about 1.5days ago)
10 mins ago   rpietila   has made 1.6 btc profit before fees

Remember having said that. Right after the others were asking if I really don't have better things to do than spending 1.5 days glued to the keyboard to earn about €500. I needed to defend myself saying that if I did not, the Monero liquidity would be much less than it is now, and proceeded by saying that 35% of the bids above the recent bottom were actually mine, because nobody else had had time to fill his.

I have also had 25% of the bids in BTC China, and there we were talking about 50x bigger money.

Monero to me is currently nothing that I plan to support me financially. I support Monero, with providing support to the devs, liquidity to the markets, marketing, even technology.

But the enemies are trembling - Monero is like a battle line where the largest battleships of Bitcoin are taking their place, loaded and constantly loading with more coins, ready to unleash the financial privacy upon everyone who might be interested.



2 day ago   rpietila   maqa71, of XMR at least I know full well that I cannot use it for anything.

2 day ago   rpietila   maqa71, of XMR at least I know full well that I cannot use it for anything.

2 day ago   rpietila   maqa71, of XMR at least I know full well that I cannot use it for anything.

2 day ago   rpietila   maqa71, of XMR at least I know full well that I cannot use it for anything.

2 day ago   rpietila   maqa71, of XMR at least I know full well that I cannot use it for anything.
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Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero scam
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XMRFanboy
on 31/08/2014, 20:55:35 UTC
XMR got pumped to over .00500 and then dumped.  To all you XMR suckers that are getting pulled into the hype:

http://cryptocointools.com/troll-log/?msg=&user=rpietila&submit=Filter
1 hour ago   rpietila   Jojatekok, I don't think anyone should sell xmr, but I still think price should drop to 420 or 400.
1 hour ago   rpietila   kuriso, I was a seller over 500, and then at 482 but nothing below 470.

This is just what he admits too.  I would consider it to be much more.
11 mins ago   rpietila   Somebody wanted to know this so here you go - my xmr trading since it first hit 470 (about 1.5days ago)
10 mins ago   rpietila   has made 1.6 btc profit before fees
9 mins ago   rpietila   but the options notionally make me 15-25%
9 mins ago   rpietila   about 6000 per month if I could keep the pace

9 mins ago   Nekomaou   i rather have rpietila controlling 4% of xmr volume than some slimy chinese whale
7 mins ago   Nekomaou   rpietila, you are the whale xmr deserves c;
 
4 hours ago   Jojatekok   xmrhodler, Risto and Aminorex won't leave the price sinking below 420k Wink
4 hours ago   xmrhodler   Aminorex understands that a retracement to 42 is very healthy for xmr


I say make bank with XMR all you want but you better know who you're playing with.  They are not looking out for the future of XMR.  They are not true believers, if you want to get sucked into that crap too.
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Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax
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XMRFanboy
on 27/08/2014, 08:51:40 UTC
Does ANYBODY care about Monero except for the flaming fanboys and Poloniex? No.  Most of the XMR market is being supported by Polo and the massive amount of fanboys there.  Lets look at some real proof.

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Umm, no.  You are trying to muddy the water with a comparison of percents and ignoring the question/statement.  


Because your statement translates to "Does anyone care about Monero besides the people trading it on an exchange"

To which you answered 'no'. This is false because there are predictions of >10,000 people using the software (one of rpietila's posts I believe). There's less than 50 -100 people trolling the troll box pretty much all the time. I'm not really sure how you managed to draw a complete picture from <1% of the people involved in this coin. Also, from what I can see there's only 173k XMR up on PLX right now. I'm just not seeing how you're making a complete picture out of what's been about 5.7% of the currency.

He didn't answer/address your statement  because you've made an assumption and declared it as a factual answer. Logical people cannot answer your illogical reply, because there's no logic to it .. how are you missing that?

HAHAHAHA really?  You are going to quote one of his "predictions"....  ">10,000 people using the software", really?  Show me 10,000 crypto users that want to try and use that command line wallet.  I doubt there are more than 1000 people using the software.

"I'm not really sure how you managed to draw a complete picture from <1% of the people involved in this coin."  Volume, little to no new signs of XMR support in and chat box, and lack of new users showing up in the XMR forum. 

"Also, from what I can see there's only 173k XMR up on PLX right now."  This is what is on the books.  There are a lot of XMR off the books.  There were 40,000 XMR sitting at 450k the other day.  It was pulled after several people started talking about it.  This was at the same time rpietila showed up.



From the XMR thread...

So, its none of my business but wth someone on the XMR team is doing with getting another coin on an exchange, do you know the shitstorm of fud this may cause.

Yeah I thought the same.
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Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax
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XMRFanboy
on 27/08/2014, 08:28:13 UTC
I've seen estimates as high as 10% of the current supply.
rpietila said that in the troll box.  There was plenty of people online to see it.  I'm sure there are others that can prove this statement.

I have repeatedly told that "at this price I could buy them all". Why did you not choose that as a basis of scandal?

Shocked "rpietila probably owns all XMR"  Shocked

rpietila, YOU ARE CHANGING QUOTES!  The above quote is being misrepresented by rpietila!


This is the correct quote.
rpietila has commented several times about the massive amounts of XMR he controls.  I've seen estimates as high as 10% of the current supply.  I don't think its that high but its high enough that the XMR devs told him he needs to down play his holdings and influence on the market.  How well does that sit with you?  I don't think devs should have any say over what some says or does with their coins.

Sorry when did we say that? Citation, please.

rpietila said that in the troll box.  There was plenty of people online to see it.  I'm sure there are others that can prove this statement.


Now to answer your question...

I have repeatedly told that "at this price I could buy them all". Why did you not choose that as a basis of scandal?

Shocked "rpietila probably owns all XMR"  Shocked

Why?  Because there is a difference between putting words in someone's mouth vs being a tool troll.
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Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax
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XMRFanboy
on 27/08/2014, 08:16:58 UTC
Does ANYBODY care about Monero except for the flaming fanboys and Poloniex? No.  Most of the XMR market is being supported by Polo and the massive amount of fanboys there.  Lets look at some real proof.

#   Source   Pair   Volume (24h)   Price   Volume (%)   Updated
1    Poloniex   XMR/BTC    $ 105,033   $ 2.02    60.54 %    Recently
2    hitbtc      XMR/BTC    $ 42,393   $ 2.02    24.44 %    Recently
3    MintPal   XMR/BTC    $ 10,438   $ 2.02    6.02 %    Recently
4    Bittrex   XMR/BTC    $ 8,755   $ 2.02    5.05 %    Recently
5    BTER      XMR/BTC    $ 3,885   $ 1.97    2.24 %    Recently
6    Melotic   XMR/BTC    $ 2,210   $ 2.05    1.27 %    Recently
7    BTER      XMR/CNY    $ 770   $ 2.00    0.44 %    Recently
8    Bittrex   XMR/BC    $ 0   $ 2.13    0.00 %    Recently

This is totally in line with most other coins. See https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/volume/24-hour/

In fact the Polo share for XMR is LOWER than the dominant exchange share for BSTX (69%), DOGE (68%), Greenbacks (81%), Stellar (76%) and I excluded a bunch of coins in the top 12 that have only one exchange. Furthermore I didn't feel like writing up the rest of the top 20 but every single one with the exception of #19 (PPC at 56%) has either a higher dominant exchange share or is only traded on one exchange.

So thank you for disproving your own point. Compared to other coins XMR is widely traded and most of the market is not being supported on one exchange.

Does ANYBODY care about Monero except for the flaming fanboys and Poloniex?  The answer to that is no.  If there was a wider range of support for XMR OUTSIDE of Polo, you'd see those exchanges having a much higher volume.  For weeks XMR has been the #1 volume maker for Polo.  Without it, the volume on Polo would have been next to nothing.  Show me another high ranking coin that has more volume on Poloniex than any other exchange.  I don't think there is one.  Polo has controlled the XMR market ever since it was added there.  If XMR was that great it should have high volume on at least MP and Bittrex.

Look at BTSX, BTCD, DOGE, DRK, and several other.  Each of those coins have more combine volume than XMR and every one of them earns that volume on better exchanges.  Those coins have a much larger support base than XMR.  If XMR was as widely supported as you want to believe, we'd see these kinds of volumes on these better exchanges.

"So thank you for disproving your own point."  Umm, no.  You are trying to muddy the water with a comparison of percents and ignoring the question/statement. 

"Compared to other coins XMR is widely traded and most of the market is not being supported on one exchange."  WRONG again.  The last time I checked, 60.54% IS greater than 50% therefore XMR IS being supported on one exchange.  That may change with HitBtc coming up but we'll see.
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Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax
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XMRFanboy
on 27/08/2014, 07:51:25 UTC
rpietila has commented several times about the massive amounts of XMR he controls.  I've seen estimates as high as 10% of the current supply.  I don't think its that high but its high enough that the XMR devs told him he needs to down play his holdings and influence on the market.  How well does that sit with you?  I don't think devs should have any say over what some says or does with their coins.

Sorry when did we say that? Citation, please.

rpietila said that in the troll box.  There was plenty of people online to see it.  I'm sure there are others that can prove this statement.
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Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax
by
XMRFanboy
on 27/08/2014, 07:44:34 UTC
fuds n' stuff



I couldn't contain myself.

cats are assholes

Let's keep the thread bumped, Monero isn't doing official PR yet.
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After these manipulators finished dumping their coins on these fanboy followers, the walls were removed and the price fell to the 300s.  At some point during this drop, rpietila's awesome analytic process told him that XMR would never go under 300 again.  Walls were made.  Dumps happened and shortly after that XMR went to 290s.

OMG it went to the high 290s for a few minutes, he was totally wrong  Cheesy

I don't know who you are, but you are pretty much the most entertaining poster I have ever seen on BTT. Please keep going.

That is it?  That is all you got from all of this?  Just one thing?  Sure XMR didn't stay under for weeks but it was there off and on over 2 days.  Get your shit straight so you don look like an idiot.
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Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero hoax
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XMRFanboy
on 27/08/2014, 04:59:37 UTC
Dead thread, all points easily disproved above. Move along people.

Monero is the most well-organized pump job I've ever seen. Not only do they have an army of devs and paid fanboys spamming monero 24/7 but they also have the backing on an entire EXCHANGE to help coordinate and strengthen their pumps! (Poloniex, if there was any question).

Monero represents the essence of greed and stupidity in the crypto community and although it is one of the more sophisticated scams / Ponzi schemes I have encountered here, it is still a scam / Ponzi nontheless.

THINK ABOUT IT: Does ANYBODY care about Monero except for the flaming fanboys and Poloniex? NO!!!

 - NO real-world application
 - NO desire to integrate into day-to-day finances
 - NO long-term plan or evidence the dev team plans on being around even more than 1 year from now.

Ponzi scheme?  I really don't think so.  I do agree with several of the other points here.

Does ANYBODY care about Monero except for the flaming fanboys and Poloniex? No.  Most of the XMR market is being supported by Polo and the massive amount of fanboys there.  Lets look at some real proof.

#   Source   Pair   Volume (24h)   Price   Volume (%)   Updated
1    Poloniex   XMR/BTC    $ 105,033   $ 2.02    60.54 %    Recently
2    hitbtc      XMR/BTC    $ 42,393   $ 2.02    24.44 %    Recently
3    MintPal   XMR/BTC    $ 10,438   $ 2.02    6.02 %    Recently
4    Bittrex   XMR/BTC    $ 8,755   $ 2.02    5.05 %    Recently
5    BTER      XMR/BTC    $ 3,885   $ 1.97    2.24 %    Recently
6    Melotic   XMR/BTC    $ 2,210   $ 2.05    1.27 %    Recently
7    BTER      XMR/CNY    $ 770   $ 2.00    0.44 %    Recently
8    Bittrex   XMR/BC    $ 0   $ 2.13    0.00 %    Recently

The majority of the other exchanges could careless about XMR.  The majority of their vol comes from arbitraging the markets.  When Polo goes up you generally have enough time to buy cheaper on the other exchanges.  When polo drops, you can work it the other direction.

Monero is the most well-organized pump job I've ever seen...  Quite possibly yes.  Most of the recent XMR pumping has been spear headed from rpietila and his minions.  On a daily basis there is an overflow if XMR cheerleading, talks of XMR over taking BTC, wild price predictions, and price manipulations. 

rpietila has commented several times about the massive amounts of XMR he controls.  I've seen estimates as high as 10% of the current supply.  I don't think its that high but its high enough that the XMR devs told him he needs to down play his holdings and influence on the market.  How well does that sit with you?  I don't think devs should have any say over what some says or does with their coins.

rpietila's has tried to make several price predictions for XMR and has been wrong in many ways.  On the last XMR pumps, rpietila burst on the scene and proclaimed he had done some amazing analysis and predicted XMR would hit .0065-.0068.  His followers went into panic buying mode.  Price went to the 530s but the real buy support wasn't there.  All his minions got dumped on and drove the price into the 380s.

After the market dropped from that .0065 prediction, rpietila came back to the troll box and called for XMR hitting .005.  Again the buying started.  They tried hard to get it there.  There were some really large buy walls trying to keep the price up.  Fake "buy support" was over 600 total btc on the books at one point.  There were fake walls for 80 and 100 btc down low on the the books with smaller walls up higher.  In the end, it topped out in the 480s and then the dumping ensued.

After these manipulators finished dumping their coins on these fanboy followers, the walls were removed and the price fell to the 300s.  At some point during this drop, rpietila's awesome analytic process told him that XMR would never go under 300 again.  Walls were made.  Dumps happened and shortly after that XMR went to 290s.

So 3 of his recent predictions were wrong.  He lead people into buying the coins they were dumping and they thanked him for it.  Everyone said, "oh its great we get cheap coins at 400+.  Anything under .1 is cheap."


Lets take a look some comments:

http://cryptocointools.com/troll-log/?msg=&user=rpietila&submit=Filter
http://cryptocointools.com/troll-log/?msg=monero&user=&submit=Filter
http://cryptocointools.com/troll-log/?msg=xmt&user=&submit=Filter

These are just recent comments from the log.
21 hours ago   rpietila   "I am trying to prop it up by fixing 1 drk = 1 xmr"
7 hours ago    rpietila   "I am thinking of a huge buy"
7 hours ago    rpietila   "when I unleash my btc, it will make a 1 month high"

Some nice LOL comments from the fanboys
15 hours ago   TrueCryptonaire   Buying Risto's puts is not a good move since Monero will basically go up and if 0.01 is a bargain, what is 0.0035?
15 hours ago   TrueCryptonaire   But when Risto's friends start to hoarding moneros, you cannot even imagine how high it will go. Tongue
15 hours ago   TrueCryptonaire   I see very realistically monero hitting even 1000+ USD

15 hours ago   TrueCryptonaire   ant84, this type of coin actually might be the final crypto...
15 hours ago   TrueCryptonaire   ant84, Yup. I see Risto's prediction of replacing gold a realistic long term.

9 hours ago    TrueCryptonaire   It takes some time for corporations and individuals adopt it but eventually the whole world will be speaking the gospel of Monero.
9 hours ago    TrueCryptonaire   It is virtually impossible that Monero will not go pass 1000 USD.
9 hours ago    TrueCryptonaire   Monero could actually replace the gold bullion in the store of value.

9 hours ago    TrueCryptonaire   greenmon, Monero has the wealthy elite backing - no wealthy person ever mentions bbr.
9 hours ago    TrueCryptonaire   maqa71, Risto told he can find easily buyers for 50 k moneros weekly from his contacts.

1 hour ago     fatboy1   aminorex, do you see monero taking over BTC? And, do u have a time frame? I hold both!
1 hour ago     aminorex   my most optimistic estimate for xmr is btc parity in late 2017. MOST optimistic

24 hours ago   Snail     toretto, XMR's big pumps will come with db complete and official GUI, i can see monero pumping to a billion usd at somepoint

8 hours ago   presstab   Thanks to David Latapie, part of the Monero core team, for helping get HyperStake added to polo today