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Re: Worldcoin
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Yuvasten
on 24/04/2024, 00:46:03 UTC
Quote from: bobita on April 22, 2024, 10:23:23 PM
Ben bu saatten sonra Worldcoini rahat bırakacaklarını zannetmiyorum, kaldı ki bu eylemin kabul edilebilir haklı sebepleri var. Arka planı güçlü olduğu için varlığını sürdürecek, hatta zaman zaman çok güzel de kazandıracaktır ama son tahlilde bu piyasanın "sağlamcıları" muhtemelen pek tutmayacaklardır ve onlarda iyi para var.
Şahsen kısa dönem al sat yapabilirim belki (günlük kadar kısayı kastetmiyorum ama), yatırım yapılacak bir emtia olarak görmüyorum. En azından potansiyel fırsatların ardı ardına geleceğini düşündüğümüz şu dönemde.

Benim amacım uzun vade. Twitter ile anlaşıp "sign in with World ID" gibi birşey getireceklerini düşünüyorum. Elonun bot sorununa çözüm getiriyor. X ile anlaşma coini uçurur diye düşünüyorum.
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Re: Thoughts on Worldcoin?
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Yuvasten
on 22/04/2024, 14:17:24 UTC
Quote from: pakhitheboss on Today at 02:00:27 PM
I remember the world coin project as they was an airdrop in my country for which a user has to scan his/her iris. People went crazy thinking the same about this coin and participated in the airdrop. I still remember main stream media were using  this event to gain views. They were not that biased about it but they did talked about the issues.

Every human living has a unique iris and that can't be copied. Using the human iris they are trying to create a unique identity for verification. The problem that I also understood was if they sell this databse to a country that wants to control the world and its ecosystem. This is not a project that I think should be associated with as they are compromising a user's privacy.
They say they just keep the verification and other datas such as iris profile, name and phone number etc. are not stored. But still countries dont get convinced. Maybe they keep some datas. Most of the countries like argentina and spain just stopped the operations without researching. Uk has started an investigation i wonder their results. Waiting for it.
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Re: Thoughts on Worldcoin?
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Yuvasten
on 22/04/2024, 11:57:28 UTC
Quote from: o48o on Today at 11:32:00 AM
Quote from: asriloni on Today at 03:52:39 AM
Quote from: Yuvasten on April 21, 2024, 08:27:16 PM
I think next rally would be AI centered. Who knows maybe sam altman tweets and it pumps. Thats my hope.

Even altman is not always focusing on AI

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Worldcoin, the project co-founded by Open AI CEO Sam Altman, which uses iris-scanning technology to verify a user’s “humanness,” is planning to launch an Ethereum layer-2 blockchain prioritizing verified humans over bots.

Worldcoin currently has more than 10 million users, with 50% of them having verified their human identities using the project’s Orb.
https://cryptopotato.com/sam-altmans-worldcoin-to-launch-l2-blockchain-prioritizing-human-transactions/

It's world coin's price itself that will be pumped with the impact from altman's tweet. I meant that if you can't even expect him to have big power as big as elon musk. Even world coins is starting to expand its business into the various sectors too. L2 is gonna be the next plan since many people are very often in doing transactions. hundreds millions transactions everyday.
Just buy world coin if you are having faith on altman. After he's back to the world coin and the impact is so big to the project.
That's actually interesting application in theory, but at the same time it's assuming that other L2s would have already problems with bots. in reality they are working as fast as ever. But assuming that tech is suitable and fits to eu regulations (which i still doubt)

If there will be a time where bots become a problem, i guess this could one solution, but i don't see how that problem couldn't it be dealt with simple capthas. As if we assume this tech makes the job easier to one person than captha, then i strongly believe that at the same time it will make it easier for that one person to authorize bots with same id. I need to take a closer look now that i got interested, so that i have actual data about this. Otherwise i feel like i am spreading just fud. 

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1691969296543711471
Check out this. Basically machine learning powered bots are actually solving captchas faster than humans. Thats why elon's current solution is bringing subscription price or fees per texts,liking etc. This is one solution, but if you bring something like "sign in with world id" you wouldnt have to charge those accounts. Of course for a potential agreement between x and worldcoin, worldcoin must solve regulatory issues and right now 5 million verified people is not enough i guess. Its still in early phase.
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Re: Thoughts on Worldcoin?
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Yuvasten
on 22/04/2024, 00:08:48 UTC
Quote from: o48o on April 21, 2024, 11:15:17 PM
Quote from: Yuvasten on April 21, 2024, 10:36:12 PM
Quote from: o48o on April 21, 2024, 10:01:50 PM
My base scenario behind my worldcoin purchase: Elon and sam altman were kind of friends when they were in OpenAI. They were attending programmes together sometimes, basically elon decided to fund openAI because of him. Also even though sam was in openai team, elon made a tour for sam in SpaceX.

Secondly, Elon tries to fight against bots and ais in x platform. He is now thinking of charging a small amount of fees for liking, sharing etc in x to prevent bots. So if you have a world id, it means you are a verified human. And if you logged in to twitter with your world id, they dont have to charge you. Basically my hope is not sam just Tweets and coin pumps. For project's scalability it still makes sense but my hope (because low chance of happening) is twitter starts to make a deal with worldcoin. For regulatory issues, yeah its risky but they can assure governments about data privacy. For verifications they dont need to store their eye data. Idk i agree about regulatory issues.
Sure, there's going to be nearly universal id system at some point, but i can't see why it would be worldcoin. And yeah, obviously elon would like something like that. But that road ended at the moment he realize he couldn't take over openAI by himself and got kicked out. And after that Elon seemed to sue Altman just out of spite, to have his revenge somehow, even though he has no legal grouds to sue. So, keeping that in mind, even if by some miracle worldcoin would be success, i don't think Elon would want anything to do with that. Most likely he is already looking for alternative.

I however don't believe he could do hostal takeover on that alternative either, as people are aware of his tactics now.
I agree when it saw the news about them, i also get to the same conclusion. Maybe it might be an excuse that i try to confirm myself because i hold but i think that rich geniuses wont hold a grudge. They will still use it if its something valuable part for his plan. For example elon sees Google's deepmind as evil because its not open. He says he funded openai against google. But in x platform you can see "sign up with google". So i think it wont be a problem. But i agree about "why worldcoin" part. He can build something similar himself or get help from another competitor. Also worldcoin is too early rn with 5 million registered people. Maybe it will happen in very long time. Thanks for thoughts btw.
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Re: Thoughts on Worldcoin?
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Yuvasten
on 21/04/2024, 22:59:21 UTC
Quote from: nelson4lov on Today at 10:53:27 PM
Quote from: Yuvasten on Today at 08:27:16 PM
I think next rally would be AI centered. Who knows maybe sam altman tweets and it pumps. Thats my hope.

It's an OPENAI subsidiary so Sam altman will definitely tweet about it in the not so distant probably when he wants to discuss crypto in any of his future discussions. I'm not too big on Worldcoin but they have some really good team members like DCBuilders and the VCs + market makers have been hard at work to ensure that the price stays upward bound. Worldcoin is OpenAI's pet project to acquire as much user data but I prefer to make money than being right all the time and not make money so I'm sold. I have been looking for an entry for a whole and I seriously thought we'd go lower.

I think his tweet would be after the Sora release. His tweeting purpose would be increasing the people who are verified(5 million now) so after the Sora release would be a good time to tweet.
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Re: Thoughts on Worldcoin?
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Yuvasten
on 21/04/2024, 22:36:12 UTC
My base scenario behind my worldcoin purchase: Elon and sam altman were kind of friends when they were in OpenAI. They were attending programmes together sometimes, basically elon decided to fund openAI because of him. Also even though sam was in openai team, elon made a tour for sam in SpaceX. Secondly, Elon tries to fight against bots and ais in x platform. He is now thinking of charging a small amount of fees for liking, sharing etc in x to prevent bots. So if you have a world id, it means you are a verified human. And if you logged in to twitter with your world id, they dont have to charge you. Basically my hope is not sam just Tweets and coin pumps. For project's scalability it still makes sense but my hope (because low chance of happening) is twitter starts to make a deal with worldcoin. For regulatory issues, yeah its risky but they can assure governments about data privacy. For verifications they dont need to store their eye data. Idk i
agree about regulatory issues.
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Thoughts on Worldcoin?
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Yuvasten
on 21/04/2024, 20:27:16 UTC
I think next rally would be AI centered. Who knows maybe sam altman tweets and it pumps. Thats my hope.
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Worldcoin
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Yuvasten
on 21/04/2024, 18:09:55 UTC
⭐ Merited by gospodin (1)
Halving sonrası ralli yavaş yavaş başlar diye düşündüğüm için uzun vadeli spotta eth tutuyordum. Tamamen worldcoine kaydırdım. Sam Altman'ın co-founder olduğu bir coin. Genelde openAI popüler şeyler yapınca pumplıyor. Birkaç muhtemel düşük olasılıklı senaryom var.

1) Sam Altman boğa vakti tweet atar diye düşünüyorum. %30 diyelim ihtimal olarak.
2) OpenAI 'ın çıkaracağı Sora sonrası yine çıkabilir. Herkes bildiği için geçici pump olabilir.
3) Bu asıl olay, Elon Musk tweeti: %5 diyorum ihtimal olarak. OpenAI kurulduğunda Elon Musk ile uzun süredir Sam Altman'ın dostluğu vardı. Hatta Sam OpenAI da olmasına rağmen Elon bunu SpaceX de gezdiriyor. Beraber programlarda konuşuyorlardı. AI hakkındaki geleceğe dair risklerde de genelde ortak görüşteydiler. Şu an biraz araları bozuk Elon OpenAI'a dava açmış. Sonuca geleyim, Elon'un twitterda botlardan nefret ettiğini istemediğini herkes biliyor. Worldcoin de bu botları engellemeye yönelik ilerliyor uzun vadede. İnsanların "insan olmalarını" kanıtlayıp ayırıyor. Bir nevi "sign in with google" gibi birşey kuruyor. Bu durumda Elon tweet atacaktır diye düşünüyorum. Hem Worldcoin'in amacı kendisine uyuyor, hem de Sam ile dostluğu var. Tweet atmasına %5 ihtimal diyorum. Kim bilir belki bu boğada görmesek bile bir sonrakilerde X'in para birimi yapar Worldcoin'i. Ben de bi 100x alır çıkarım.

Evet umut doluyum. Hayalperestim fakat mantıklı ihtimaller. Bu ihtimaller olmasa bile piyasa ile pumplar diye düşünüyorum.