To cover the import tax and shipping to purchaser I have to push the price pass $3K. I'm betting on the BTC price trend staying bullish to create appeal.

I got one last night before they sold out in about 5 minutes. I was debating on paying BTC and waiting for Blokforge to list to use credit, but once I saw them all gone I pulled the trigger and figured I could resale for more if I wanted to. Wished the pricing was closer to what Blokforge listed. Hoping they have a relatively limited supply. Today they've been going out of stock and adding them back for over an hour now. They are probably keeping majority of them since they are already offering plans on Bitdeer starting end of April.

Very small initially would be best....



I think you should use the post fees to encourage community determined quality (i.e. try to foster the type of people you want there at the start, then structure a fee schedule so that positive and negative feedback loops drive behaviour)

Some possibilities:

1. Consider making the fees a bond; people recieve some or all of their money back after some condition/s has been met (you can do this pragrammatically using bitcoin script IIRC)
     a. Users could maybe receive back bonded payments to the forum according to how much they receive in tips from others
     b. An "Account opening bond" could be set high to disincentive ban evasion, which is lost when a user is banned
     c. Set a minimum "Account open" bond, but make it possible, and publicly provable, to submit a bond higher than the minimum
  
2. Tier payments based on forum status
3. Make a status level beyond which high status users receive some proportion of the fees paid by low status users. Persistent bad actors would end up paying good actors so that they can behave badly
4. Make it reasonably easy to understand the system

Above all, moderators need to be knowledgable & fair. People won't join if they don't trust the management.



Neither, those names are appropriate for this custom forum software you are developing, not for an instance of a site using that tech.

I would suggest adding to your mission statement, as Lightning tech itself will eventually become too niche and esoteric as it becomes increasingly extensive, and as that enxtense is abstracted away from lightning users. Doing something that sets the pace against other bitcoin forums would have more longevity and wider appeal.

 

In case u have not made a payment yet, u could try https://www.discourse.org/

Shoot me if this is a stupid question, but this will only be for Bitcoin community using LN or LN itself? Not that it isn't tough enough figuring it out with Bitcoin, nor will the restriction prevent other networks (see this forum). Maybe it doesn't matter?

1) Invision but only because am familiar with that. I do find bb and SM to feel much lighter though. Tapatalk looks very nice and itself seems to be considering SOME form of tipping with crypto, among other schemes. Wonder if they considered or are considering LN (sorry if out of topic).

2) Neutral. I'd pay but not sure who else would. People might want to understand why though. Not the cost, just the principle. Explain it well and then I'm sure it's not an issue.

3) Is it possible to Pay What You Want?

4) Maybe ask volunteers to share live setup details for nodes. Then it's just copy and go for most people?

5) Same as 4 maybe.

6) lnchat

No, that will probably break something. We have to get rid of everything related to Go. Remove the following lines and save the file.


Now, you can use echo 'PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/go/bin"' >> ~/.profile. Log out and try to use the command from Zap connect.

Okay, I have just tested it on my VPS and we have to do one more thing.

cd ~ && nano .profile - I assume that you have nano installed. If not then run sudo apt-get install nano

There is probably a lot of mess there. Delete everything EXCEPT the code below


Press CTRL+O at the same time and then enter to save the file. Press CTRL+X to leave the editor.

echo 'PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/go/bin"' >> ~/.profile - Log out after this command and try using the command from Zap connect

By the way, does snap command work for you? I am running Ubuntu 18.04 on my VPS and it suggested using sudo snap install go -classic (it would download the latest version). Give it a try if the rest doesn't work!


It proves that the package was out-of-date (1.7.4 was released at the end of 2016!).

I am afraid that the package (golang) is a bit out-of-date (it's a common thing, unfortunately). Can you tell me which version of Go is currently installed? (go version) If it's lower than 1.11.1 then we will have to proceed with the manual installation again. Try the following commands anyway.

sudo apt-get remove golang* - '*' is necessary
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo rm -r /usr/local/go - just in case you accidentally moved the old version

Now, after typing in go version you should see 'Unknown command error'.

cd /usr/local/ && sudo wget https://dl.google.com/go/go1.11.4.linux-armv6l.tar.gz - not the 32 bit version as I recommended earlier but the ARM one
sudo tar -xvf go1.11.4.linux-armv6l.tar.gz
sudo rm go1.11.4.linux-armv6l.tar.gz - let's keep things clean

The $GOPATH should not change but let's make sure that it will work properly. Don't forget to log out after using the commands below.

export GOROOT=/usr/local/go
echo 'export GOPATH=$HOME/go' >> ~/.profile
echo 'PATH="$HOME/go/bin:$PATH"' >> ~/.profile

Run go version and you should see go version g1.11.4 linux/arm. Run the command from Zap connect.


I fell asleep immediately after making my previous post. Thank you for your generous tip! Now I am considering buying a Raspberry Pi for myself

It won't happen automatically since these folders were created manually by you. You don't have to change anything. Let's keep these folders with 777 permissions for now. By the way, is there anything beside LND that you run on your Raspberry Pi?

I am afraid that the package (golang) is a bit out-of-date (it's a common thing, unfortunately). Can you tell me which version of Go is currently installed? (go version) If it's lower than 1.11.1 then we will have to proceed with the manual installation again. Try the following commands anyway.

sudo apt-get remove golang* - '*' is necessary
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo rm -r /usr/local/go - just in case you accidentally moved the old version

Now, after typing in go version you should see 'Unknown command error'.

cd /usr/local/ && sudo wget https://dl.google.com/go/go1.11.4.linux-armv6l.tar.gz - not the 32 bit version as I recommended earlier but the ARM one
sudo tar -xvf go1.11.4.linux-armv6l.tar.gz
sudo rm go1.11.4.linux-armv6l.tar.gz - let's keep things clean

The $GOPATH should not change but let's make sure that it will work properly. Don't forget to log out after using the commands below.

export GOROOT=/usr/local/go
echo 'export GOPATH=$HOME/go' >> ~/.profile
echo 'PATH="$HOME/go/bin:$PATH"' >> ~/.profile

Run go version and you should see go version g1.11.4 linux/arm. Run the command from Zap connect.


I fell asleep immediately after making my previous post. Thank you for your generous tip! Now I am considering buying a Raspberry Pi for myself

Okay, that's great. For some reason permissions are not working properly so we will have to do it in a bit insecure way. Use sudo chmod -R 777 ~/go (this will allow every single user to modify the contents of folders and files inside go) and then run go get -d github.com/LN-Zap/zapconnect. I am too sleepy to think of a better solution.

Try running that command without sudo. Also, check what has happened to $GOPATH by typing in go env. If it has changed then use the previous two echo commands to set it again.

It looks like Go requires three more folders to work. Use sudo mkdir ~/go/bin ~/go/src ~/go/pkg. You can also run all the commands from Zap connect with sudo in the beginning just in case.

Some of the environment variables must be different in this case. Try the following commands

sudo mdkir ~/go
echo 'export GOPATH=$HOME/go' >> ~/.profile
echo 'PATH="$HOME/go/bin:$PATH"' >> ~/.profile

Log out, connect again to your machine and then run go env to see whether or not GOPATH has changed. If so, try the command from Zap connect.

I guess that you needn't have looked at the environment variables (go env) since it was installed in a different way. You should have moved on to the Zap connect part. Let's try to fix that. Type in the following commands.

sudo rm -r /usr/local/go - to make sure that the folder you have moved is completely deleted
sudo apt-get remove golang - completely getting rid of everything related to the Go. I don't think that purge command is necessary here.
sudo apt-get install golang

Please, let me know if this has worked for you. I am going to bed soon.

Edit: Oh, you have just changed your post. I will answer it in a moment.

sudo apt-get install golang automatically installs Go and other dependencies in case they are needed on your system. I wonder why it isn't mentioned in the tutorial. There is a slight chance that the repository won't be available for your OS (I can't recall which version it was) and the whole installation will fail. If you don't want to play around with the 32 bit version then you can try using this command first.

In this case, it means that you have to get rid of the version that you have currently installed. You can do it easily by typing in sudo rm -r /usr/local/go because you have installed it manually. If you get 'Unknown directory error' or something similar then you must have done something wrong in the first place. Don't forget about the second suggestion if the first one doesn't work for you.

There are two things that I would try if I were you:

1) Download the 32 bit version of Go instead of the 64 bit one. https://dl.google.com/go/go1.11.4.linux-386.tar.gz

2) If the first suggestion doesn't work then use the following command sudo apt-get install golang

Don't forget to revert everything you have done so far before trying out each of these.