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It used to be possible in Bitcoin but now it's being absorbed in to the financial system it is reverting to the standard figures, currently Bitcoin is 2x capital markets but that is slowly reducing. That means you can expect double digit percentages going forward but read this https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-improve-my-daytrading/answer/Matt-Awd to make it clearer.

What that means is to find an 'edge' you need to either take the profits away from the middle tier, which Bitcoin didn't have until recently and is growing exponentially, or you trade at low timeframes to bypass the middle completely, which requires tech retail don't have access to. So my question is this, if you had access to a triple digit percent plus per year process would you use it, because going forward the financial system will not allow anything above 2x capital markets, no funds will be able to produce it going forward http://www.eurekahedge.com/Indices/IndexView/Eurekahedge/682/Eurekahedge_Crypto_Currency_Hedge_Fund_Index, an exchange is the only way the group found to be able to provide access to triple digit percentage returns without inducing the hell that the Middle tier produce when you take their fees for your returns.

And if you think people with knowledge and access to the best cannot know the future you can see what the funds had access to in December to readjust portfolios https://www.quora.com/Will-Bitcoin-go-up-in-2018/answer/Alister-Aw which is 'magically' coming true. The question I've been asked to ask is "are you happy with 100% of 50% using MT4 or 50% of 500% using fund tech", the expectation is everyone will choose the first one.

Some of the architects were going to launch an exchange, they have all the tech ready to run with pre-built charting pulling data from all other exchanges at 1second intervals, Coinbase, GDAX, with 10x leverage futures, but then they found out how much effort you need to put in and how little return you get dealing with retail traders, even with a $5k minimum deposit so just decided why bother, on chart trading using the tech, very nice.

https://ibb.co/cuzmFJ

What never ceases to amaze me is that people like this actually believe they can out run and out maneuver the smartest and most well funded banks and institutions, at least I now know when they scrapped given tech access to small portfolios (sub $20k), days, if they want they can sit it there for months, it only takes a $1million order to substantially move the market, or keep it exactly where it is.

I was warned the public forums were clueless about the financial markets, I only came here to find out where Bitcoin affiliates are located, glad to confirm it's true.

Psychology does not allow you to hold on to something 50% to 70% underwater, no exceptions. You can see why they don't let the public participate in hedge funds and give them things like Pantera and Eureka hedge with a eye popping return of 11% year to date.

The problem is they are correct, the question is how do they know, the issue isn't the price as such, it's the psychology. Most people bought in at $13k, once it hits 50% to 70% loss they cannot sustain the pressure, it will go up again, but that could be months or more of stress with money they don't have, exit is the only short term solution for unsophisticated investors.

https://www.quora.com/I-invested-50k-in-btc-and-alts-when-it-was-13k-Im-worried-but-I-dont-want-to-sell-at-loss-Willing-to-hold-6-12months-Will-it-go-up/answer/Alister-A

You do understand that once the loss hits 50%-70% it is virtually impossible from a psychological point of view to not take the loss, the human brain hits a pain threshold which cannot be sustained unless you understand what happens next in a very timely manner, which the markets won't allow.

What I want to know is how you know this, very few outside of institutions have access to that information, unless it's just a wild guess which happens to match the institutional game plan, stranger things have happened.

Sure, it's only a $4mn per year hedge fund architecture that showed this move forming two months ago, there is this great presumption that the financial markets cannot whipsaw and out maneuver even well seasoned crypto traders.


"Now the banks are coming onboard, that is shifting to a more synthetic approach of price discovery, long flat periods with flash moves." and so it is.

Wow everyone is behind the curve, the architect of the system we use wrote about this a couple of months ago https://www.quora.com/Why-are-cryptocurrencies-dropping/answer/Matt-Awd

Where do you find Bitcoin and Crypto affiliates, tried RunCPA but they are beyond useless.

Cross exchange and cross symbol crypto charting http://cryptogxy.com

They exist, you just have to know where to find them.

Any ICO as a share or pays a dividend will be classed as a security, because technically crypto isn't regulated correctly it may go under the radar, but it may not, that's the risk. The only time an ICO is not a security, and there is still disagreement about this, is when it is a buyback. I know some people launching an ICO which are $10, $100, $1,000 coins but act as bonds paying a fixed return per week via coin buybacks, first in first out, that is not a security, if it were the bond markets around the world would freeze up.

That is correct about the exchanges, I saw an article written by one of the solution architects for the platform we use, they showed the difference between Gemini, GDAX, and Coinbase and how GDAX and Coinbase stall the price for 5minutes at a time where Gemini doesn't. The exchanges are definitely not all made from the same idea, from an investing point of view I only know the ones we deal with, because they cross invest and most use the same technology we do, not something the average retail trader will get their hands on. We are all tied under a strict set of customer first rules, basically our fees only come once the investor received their expected returns, if we miss then we make zero and have to get back to watermark which is the investor parity investment, it's doesn't happen but it's always in the back of everyones minds to over achieve. From what I can tell all the coins and investments are fee first, so unless you pick one which is doing well you as the investor will take the loss first.

Yes, in the forex markets I've been told it's 1-2% per month and 3-5% for very exceptional traders, 300% returns is unheard of, if you made 10% per month you are one of the very few. I do know a fund that pays out 1% per day on a $1k investment as a bond, 0.5% for $10k and something like 0.25% for $100k, but they invest with professional traders who generate mind boggling returns, but also use $multi-million software to do it, which I'm sure you don't have. No, you will not make that any time soon trading, long term trading over months or years is possible but you have to pick the highs and lows, easier said than done.