Please try to describe your idea. Maybe via PM

Yes and therefore it is not a ponzi scheme.

And it is not meant to be against the users in any sense.



Yes it was not you. Haha the point is. He complained about that several coders left him before. Now I know why. OMG. He was nice at first and I was about to create a serious project with him, but then he started to tell me how I have to be. What the hell.. ok that is why the other coders left him too.


Yes. And if I really described a ponzi scheme, I did not describe my idea correctly.

Nothing new here?

I got in contact with a user that answered to this thread and we started some projects. Then he literally f...cked me, leaving me loosing yet again and I wasted too much time with him, well I got more smart than before again. So I am back to my idea. But if nobody reacts on this anymore I will take it back to the underground and will develop it to a later point.

I have it as a document on hostedredmine (see post). It is too long for a private message, I think.

Yes I am trying them again.

Please do not show such disrespect for my heart things. Thanks.

Ja, ACC.

Die Masse kommt ja eigentlich schon...


Meine Möglichkeiten.. naja.. ich habe eine Nvidia-Karte LOL

Das mit "Bitcoins müssen sich auf immer mehr Menschen verteilen" ist doch dank der NWO überhaupt kein Problem.

Deswegen: Impfen für Bitcoins! lol


Was ist aber an sich kritisch betrachte ist, dass die ehemaligen Miner nun die neuen Geldherren zu werden scheinen. Statt der Banken gibt es nun Faucets und Gewinnspielen bei denen man oft nicht gewinnt mit lächerlicher geringer Umverteilung.
Doch aufgrund der Natur von Bitcoins gibt es halt auch Seiten wie http://vzturl.com/pi90 mit 0% house edge (zumindest schreiben sie das drauf! Wer kann das denn schon überprüfen?). Das ist schon fairer. Doch ansonsten muss man sich wirklich fragen wie das in einigen Jahren aussehen wird, dann haben wir eine Bitcoin-Geldelite, die eh schon von Anfang an global war und letztendlich kaum etwas gewonnen außer dass wir unsere eigene Bank sind. Also das ist ja schon ein stückchen viel mehr Freiheit.

Wie seht ihr das? Wird Bitcoins ebenso zu starker Armut und wenig Reichtum führen? Mit einem heutigen Kurs von über 420 USD pro 1 BTC sind einige wohl schon deutlich neureich geworden. Nicht, dass ich ihnen es nicht gönnen würde, aber welche Mechanismen kann oder wird es geben, um dafür zu sorgen, dass niemand mehr auf unendlichem Reichtum sitzt während am anderen Ende Menschen nichts zum Fressen haben (man kann da ja ruhig mal Tacheles reden) wie es bei herkömmlichen Währungen ist. Die erschaffen neue Kredite aus alten Kredite - einfach aus dem Nichts - und gehen ignorant an hungerden, frierenden Obdachlosen vorbei. Ich habe von der Bitcoins-Aktion für Obdachlose gehört. Tolle Sache. Doch ja, wie lang wird dieser Reichtum so sehr verteilt bleiben. Dass es da Superreiche gibt sollte klar sein. Wer zuerst mit dem mining begonnen hat, hat wohl die meisten

Ich für meinen Teil könnte jetzt durchaus ein Geschenk von 0.4 BTC vertragen. Also ein Faucet mit höheren Beträgen wäre toll.

I am still searching more people and got positive feedback about the idea details so far.

One of them is developing a first version or draft.

I can not be in this every day, but I feel this will be a very good project.

Sorry, it is called niece. I am not a native English speaker or writer.

I do not have litecoins.

Well yes thx..

See this caused problems here. I have at least a delay. OMFG what a trouble!

Luckily paypal gives me my money back from him.

Why didn't I do that..


Ok, he is using this mail too bsummers14@outlook.com for paypal.

Well I am This is so sad that people need to think others are scammers or not legit or will not give a private person his loan money back because the economy is that worse that there actually are so many scammers. It will lead us (humanity) to nothing but the end.

Yeah sure. It is just a story, sure. Things gone so wrong 

Yes, I want to have a 0.65 BTC loan for my nephews and niece because they will indirectly profit from this. I want to buy 2x100 USD perfect money vouchers and therefore I need BTCs, because I had some trouble with liqpay (not the first time and with different cards, they are very strict). I will purchase a profitable software with it then and pay back the loan ASAP. As BTC or on some other way, because I would still have the problem to exchange into a larger BTC amount.

I tried to exchange to Bitcoins yesterday and ran into problems as reported here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=332568.0

Please give me a loan, gift or tell me a working way to buy Bitcoins by paypal, neteller or credit card (not liqpay). I already checked localbitcoins too.

I accept gifts at 1GdPruL5VS935Uvq1JYGKnGySptmSLsDJD

I need that amount in a very very very short time. I used btc-pays.net yesterday, but they are kinda limited in the number of calls you can make on a day.

So, what can I provide as collateral? Well, nothing which would not reveal my identity I guess and I actually do not need to stay anonym, but I do not know what you would accept. The most collateral is that it is an investment in a profitable software that will make me money.

I do not want to sound like one of those internet storys which are chain mailed, but you really would help me or better speaking: save my ass.

Thank you.

Well.. no.. I do not have such collaterals.

!! Please be beware of our pretty new member dagro. !!


He is a scamming MoFu.


I have sent him 245 USD yesterday, buying 0.65 BTC via paypal. I can reverse it, but this will take and I do not have that time now!!! Damn it.

I need to purchase a profitable software with it.

Ok ever he got the payment he said "Got the payment gonna send the coins soon. (Will accept the payment on paypal when I do, gimme few min)."
I went to sleep and now I still do not see any Bitcoins in my damn wallet from him. Not even unverified.

What should we do with such MoFus?

But I still need that Bitcoins.

If you can spend some or sell me some and are trustworthy I am going for it! I'll need about 0.7 BTC to purchase 2x100 USD PerfectMoney vouchers (because other ways to get money into PM had their problems...) and get that freaking software that will bring me all money back. I already have 0.1 BTC.

These free sites are not fitable for this purpose. I need them faster. Better instantly

You could lend me Bitcoins. How am I more trustworthy than MoFus like dagro? Well I already wrote a lot here and shared my valueable idea.

Did I mention that I am angry?

I have published the idea.

Well you have to sign up for project management too, the idea explanation is the first document there.

I did and do not think that these existing solutions are fitable to have such a shared wallet.

Well.. no further reactions so far? I should enjoy the sun today but the idea is not getting out of my head.

Wie uncool!