Anyone ever talked to Besir Kurtulmus, who worked with Jawad on something before the ICO scam?

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-177-towers-in-the-cloud

At the end of the day, there is no evidence to show that they made reasonable efforts to try to complete the project (and there is evidence to the contrary), which points to a breach of the purchase agreement and grounds for suing. They've liquidated the company with a load of undeclared assets that the UK Government is going to be interested in, I'd love to see what financial statements they actually released and where they stand with HMRC, the company director was arrogant enough to post photos of himself and some of his ill-gotten gains before vanishing without a trace... surely these guys don't have a leg to stand on? People should be reporting this to their fraud authorities and pushing for a prosecution, in addition to taking out individual actions to reclaim their investments.

ICO frauds will just continue to darken the crypto arena until everyone starts taking action and the legal framework gains experience of dealing with these scams.

You could file a case with Action Fraud as well, I suppose. They're working on this. The more people they have testimonials from, the better.

I think that "piss-poor" is a lenient way to describe the article. It's a fucking shameless attempt on the author's part to pretend that he thinks there's nothing to worry about, when the facts he states don't even make sense or hold up to the lightest of investigations. Let's take this sentence: "The DeOS tokens have and still are being distributed to those who invested in them, including myself, and the only problem we can find is that some people used the wrong types of Bitcoin wallets."

The ONLY problem they can find is that some people used the wrong type of wallets? REALLY? How about the fact that the fucking platform isn't operational? First, there was absolutely no site, just an nginx error. For a period, there was an utterly useless login page. Useless because you couldn't create an account, and because Razormind don't actually provide 24 hour support like they claim. They provide no support. They will ignore you if you're polite, and threaten you if you're not polite. If Niall had received tokens, then he probably would have known they were worthless.

In fact, he goes on to say "I have yet to hear of anyone accessing the platform". Well, including himself, the man who publicised and promoted this scam and claims to have received tokens. Sorry, Niall, did you receive tokens and continue to promote a platform you weren't even interested in logging in to? Right, that makes sense...

Oh, and what's the reason we haven't heard of anyone using the system?! "The reason being given for this is strict AML and KYC compliance on verification of each user". Of course. None of the people who invested $10M in this scam want to go on the public record and say that they've accessed the system? Oh of course, that sounds highly plausible. WTF kind of bullshit is in this guy's head?

How much did Razormind pay him, and how much time is he going to do for intentionally colluding in this scam?

I don't get what you mean... There's quite a substantial body of evidence here suggesting he should be done for fraud. But is he actually going to be done for fraud, and is anyone likely to get their money back? If this isn't the first time, then surely ActionFraud might already know about him? And if it isn't the first time, then I'm guessing he got away with it scot-free the last time...

Well this doesn't look good. Has anyone heard anything that gives us hope?

Well, let's hope the authorities do understand what has happened here and take some serious action this year.

Yes, I got the same reply from Action Fraud just now: they've passed the case on to the Northern Ireland Police. So it sounds like this is something that will be actively investigated.

Meanwhile, they've got a login page running now for DEOS. Oh but we weren't given accounts, and the create account link doesn't work (surprise).

Where did Action Fraud announce this? Did they respond to an individual who posted a fraud report? I'm still waiting to hear from them.

What else can be done, if Action Fraud claim they don't have enough evidence?

Hey, but remember guys: "Trust is the only network".

He's an audacious arsehole, that's for sure.

Well, I'll have to wait another few weeks until Action Fraud provide a report on what they've done.

Still waiting for that Coin Telegraph article... Yes, I'm highly suspicious they were in cahoots, and should be investigated as part of the fraud investigation. They were a vital player in this scam.

So I was scammed, yes, largely thanks to CoinTelegraph writing such gushing reviews about DeOS, and me not having any real experience in this wild west of crypto scams.

I have many DeOS tokens yet no means to use them, and I see no evidence of the platform I funded actually existing. At best, these guys are utterly incompetent. Given what I've discovered here, I'm more inclined to believe they're seasoned scammers.

I've filed a report with actionfraud. The wording of the DeOS terms were such that they have tried to protect themselves. But this is clearly a scam in my eyes and I hope action is taken against the people who have defrauded a lot of us of a LOT of money.