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Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends[Updates&Discussion]
You totally have that right. But your issues with other coins do not exactly involve NEM, and I still can't figure out what xtester has to do with any of this. So sure, feel free to have a problem with him personally, but that still does not have anything to do with NEM as far as I am concerned as xtester does not have the power to control any particular aspect of NEM at all.
This was MY question... are you saying that AS A NEM STAKEHOLDER I should NOT reply to further discussion initiated by other NEM
stakeholders?
Well, you got an immediate answer to that question from makoto. But what I am saying is that after that you still seem to be trying to tarnish the name of someone who is heavily involved in the NEM community for something I see no actual evidence of. I just don't like it when people write scary negative things about people within the community without any facts to back it up because then people are forced to come in and defend themselves and each other in order to prevent an unfounded panic.
It's sort of like yelling FIRE! in a crowded theater when there actually isn't one and people end up getting trampled to death. But anyway, what I mean by it not having anything to do with NEM is that your issues involving xtester seem to be only relevant to another coin, not NEM. That's why I don't think it is appropriate to be freaking everyone out over here (particularly people new to NEM) with these types of claims when your issues are seemingly unrelated. Maybe I'm just not seeing the relation though.
FIRE?
no, now u r overstatin. Smaragda is shooting hard on his own thread but he is not yelling FIRE here.
He has still the point.
If one of NEms lead members is involved some coin where MAY happened a embezzlin
then
the smallest thing he xtester can do is writin some comment.
That is expected from leaders.
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 29 November[Updates&Discussion]
Is there a "best list" for poi competition?
you mean competition rankings? no not at the moment.. il post a the highest score soon.
soon?
u the best godtycoon
u r using soooo much time to look AE markets, exchanges and other stuff that have no time 4 litle update. Unless its not accidental???
Wud competition info show some bad things? Poi isnt working. Premarkets will crash. Godtycoon lose money?
Bad Poi, Bad Boy, what you gonna do
what you gonna do when they come for you
How its possible to have competition with no control.
Noway. Its fake compet.
Just beta testers for slavery. Slaves, only few tester get reward and even that can be manipulated with changing rules and other accounts in network. How manipulating network? Dont ask, i cant tell
its secret for gaming if Nem is launched. Its all there.Take this as writ
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 29 November[Updates&Discussion]
Cross post from https://forum.nemcoin.com/general-discussion/open-letter-to-the-nem-devs/
Dear Devs: @Pat, @Gimre, @BloodyRookie, @Makoto, and @Jaguar,
Here are some of my thoughts. Your job is a thankless one. You work hard on a great idea. Those that would support you, most often dont (yet). But those that will complain, gripe, and insult do.
snip
I am lucky because I lived in one of the poorest places in the world, a poor village in one of the poorest countries in Africa
Dear Devs: @Pat, @Gimre, @BloodyRookie, @Makoto, and @Jaguar,
Here are some of my thoughts. Your job is a thankless one. You work hard on a great idea. Those that would support you, most often dont (yet). But those that will complain, gripe, and insult do.
snip
I am lucky because I lived in one of the poorest places in the world, a poor village in one of the poorest countries in Africa
very good & veery loong post
when u come from Africa u shud translate nem to some African language!
Big markets..
The problem is that there are sooooo many languages in Africa. The language I speak (or butcher) is called Southern Sotho and only has about 2 million speakers total. It is a decent sized population but not a major one by any means. (In comparison the city I live in now has more than 2 million people)
To some extent most Africans learn a little bit of a Western language in school, mostly English, but it of course varies region by region.
aye, but that translation cud be port to Africa.
Some people who cant english, read ur Sotho and spread Nem with the languages that they can translate.
U cant lose
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 29 November[Updates&Discussion]
Cross post from https://forum.nemcoin.com/general-discussion/open-letter-to-the-nem-devs/
Dear Devs: @Pat, @Gimre, @BloodyRookie, @Makoto, and @Jaguar,
Here are some of my thoughts. Your job is a thankless one. You work hard on a great idea. Those that would support you, most often dont (yet). But those that will complain, gripe, and insult do.
snip
I am lucky because I lived in one of the poorest places in the world, a poor village in one of the poorest countries in Africa
Dear Devs: @Pat, @Gimre, @BloodyRookie, @Makoto, and @Jaguar,
Here are some of my thoughts. Your job is a thankless one. You work hard on a great idea. Those that would support you, most often dont (yet). But those that will complain, gripe, and insult do.
snip
I am lucky because I lived in one of the poorest places in the world, a poor village in one of the poorest countries in Africa
very good & veery loong post
when u come from Africa u shud translate nem to some African language!
Big markets..
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 29 November[Updates&Discussion]
I can't say that understand most of your post but I'll try to answer it anyway.
I have no idea if you're a troll but you do come accross as one. Maybe the obvious language barrier makes it seem even worse. Also the fact that all your accounts (or what I suspect are also yours) seem to post the same bs so...there's that.
UP never cencorsed me or put a leash on me. It's just the longer the pre-launch phase goes on the more I get frustrated with people and the easier it is for me to say something I shouldn't have. I'm very aware that I have a bit of a temper but that always has been the case and UP never talked with me about that. Think I've gotten better at that recently
No idea what I'm supposed to confess.
How about confessing to be a genius?
Yes, patmast3r, why dont u?
Why dont u all build Proof of Genius competition?
it Must be very dull if samey with ths Impotrance of Competence competition pr was it Importance of Proof?
nah, u know it.THE PoI compet. Its like rivals running in forrest but tv watchers cant get picture who is there and where r others. That P of Genius wud b same but all dark as night.
U, pat & all have put nem to dark.
Noone knows what is happening or what happens.
Gimre wrote 2me that its enouh 2 look my post history! nah, look all posts here since september or june. Its all there.
Its like in movie Conspiracy theory. The crazy taxi driver wasnot so crazy
All laughed him but today CIA use same means, ans other agencys 2.
Truth is all there..piece here anothr yonder.
People! Take sack off ur head.!Dont be like tv watchers watchin nem fake competitions
I think patmast3r isnt talkng true. He laughs others language skills like thats reason for not understanding & ignoring. Read thishttp://www.ecenglish.com/learnenglish/lessons/can-you-read
pat understans but doesnt like the text. Thats true.
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 29 November[Updates&Discussion]
Please don't quote the trolls. Makes my ignorelist useless
r u intimating that I'm troll
Embarrassing
Funny, becaus when I had no profile and just reading bitcointalk, i remember that i noticed ur post here in nem.
You sounded so initiate, though u just started!
he must be a child genius ,i thought, how can I join here ever ,when I'm not a genius like patmast3r
Later I joined .and read a lot: utopianfuture's, dzarmush, zero.. ans others and of course patmast3r's mailings. Learned much, i can say.
When utopianfuture left, then leash was loose.
Aye, Jawohl, Pat, u know what i mean.
There was nothing to hold that barking dog... aufhalten nicht
aye, nothin but a barking dog ...........
It s high time 2 u confess that, u 2 Pat. U 2.
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
what can u do?? Take your head out off bush! Stand up and shout if youre man!
Read news http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
Do u understand that.?
Raed first, write then.
Shocking, absolutly shocking!
My last post is moderated away!Why!
Was it the Truth in my post? Must have been. Truth hurts.
Idont know. I must guess.
I must change my words too. Because I want to write, tell THE TRUTH.
The spirit of NEM community is not so great anymore. There is good reason.
In NEM has been formed some small group. There the most active people and core team members use power. First they discuss and plan. Only they. The plan may be good, it looks good and it is shoveled to throats of the rest community. [
b]Regrettably the rest community means only 50 people[/b] because many trust to teams and are very passive; if they read about some election , they may ignore it because they trust Nem will get it well.
To shovel plan to 50 throats is not difficult. In truth they need to win only 15 people. The Gruppe has 20 members and gets those 15 more, it is enoug for win TheElection easily. This means that small group can control NEM.
They show up very joyful messages: great! nice ! good work! wonderful progress! let's make world NEM!
At the backstage they plann how using communitys money they have total access and power.
Very regretable. Rockethead is using very bad language and outright threats and intimidations to take honest community members silent, making them leave NEM community. Why he is not modderated???
This is the spirit of Nem. Threats, manipulation, flawed elections. What else?,,,,,
Read news http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
Do u understand that.?
Raed first, write then.
Shocking, absolutly shocking!
My last post is moderated away!Why!
Was it the Truth in my post? Must have been. Truth hurts.
Idont know. I must guess.
I must change my words too. Because I want to write, tell THE TRUTH.
The spirit of NEM community is not so great anymore. There is good reason.
In NEM has been formed some small group. There the most active people and core team members use power. First they discuss and plan. Only they. The plan may be good, it looks good and it is shoveled to throats of the rest community. [
b]Regrettably the rest community means only 50 people[/b] because many trust to teams and are very passive; if they read about some election , they may ignore it because they trust Nem will get it well.
To shovel plan to 50 throats is not difficult. In truth they need to win only 15 people. The Gruppe has 20 members and gets those 15 more, it is enoug for win TheElection easily. This means that small group can control NEM.
They show up very joyful messages: great! nice ! good work! wonderful progress! let's make world NEM!
At the backstage they plann how using communitys money they have total access and power.
Very regretable. Rockethead is using very bad language and outright threats and intimidations to take honest community members silent, making them leave NEM community. Why he is not modderated???
This is the spirit of Nem. Threats, manipulation, flawed elections. What else?,,,,,
Everything you've said thus far the reality has proven otherwise. It's staggering what utter nonesense this is, even despite the obvious language barrier. There's been no other community that has had the ears of the devs as much as NEM has. Repeated votes and even changes to otherwise big rules have all been considered and done so if necessary. I've also no idea where you're pulling this centralized malarky from either - if you want to make accusations like that which stick, take your pick of any other thread on BTT - plenty of other coins have a far worse reputation and distribution method, especiall PoW.
quality of trolling is dismal.. i expected some creativeness.. but no.. fighting fud should be fun and some what challenging but fighting the fud in this thread is like eating the color grey.. not even worth the effort
i expected some creativeness.. but no.. fighting fud should be fun and some what challenging but fighting the fud in this thread is like eating the color grey.. not even worth the effort It's so bad it's funny.
It's schizoid, to be honest. This individual probably has a whole host of imaginary enemies in real life. 1000 NEM to whoever can help that person get the help they need
You may have a correct guess here...
I have some experience about people with mental ... deviancies.
We can't cure him, nor anybody. But we can think what's the best for him.
For a start: be supportive and adamant. In correct questions.
If a patient is right, be supportive. If a patient is wrong, be adamant with decent reasoning.
The second step is to understand. There can be several reason, why someone's psyche has quaked. Maybe he has sold his bitcoins, when it was 50 cents. Picture yourself to that position and think what you might now want from any crypto project you are following.
Your right, he needs our love and support.....
Now you pushed me to edge. Five years ago would happened bad things. Not now, i can control anger and negativ feels.
You are partly right. Only partly. I'm not crazy. I dont use drugs not medicines. Its not crazy when have strong feels and reactions. It has been eesy for me, i have allways been biggest and can do anythng, no need to control anger. Thats it.
Yesterday I told u bout Nem spirit. You told to love and support me.
Wher is yor love and support?
Nowhere!
It is sad.
Again you fail me.
Your talk is bs. bs.
You tell this and that, rigth and wrong, love and support.
N o t h i n g !
Must I hold your hand and show. I can do that. Maybe mistake to write too much. Here is only one thing.
Why noone write about Rockethead threats?
Its allright that he threats and make others away from Nem?
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
We have arrived happily to Nem! Finally
finally we managed to with BETA app and REDEMPTION
Salsac says that is Iq test. It IIISSS IQ TEST !
we won it and are in Nem now. Thank you!
After all this joy, we have noticed other things also.
While we were in pain with BETA and Phase, we had a lot time to study ournem.com.
There is no doub that we see a Hamlet there.
Last year my co-worker adviced me to read Shakespeare. I took Hamlet and read. Todays when I stop to thinking somethin , my friend always ask: Something rotten in Denmark?
And layghs. Now it comes to my mind: something wrong in nem?
In nem forum is one hamlet fighting against ghosts. It is funny, but also not. It looks his right but noone give a sht. What is right in nem? To be or not to be?
That is from Shakespear. There is all that. Gold silver ghosts plans laughs angrys hopes.
But it is sorrow. Because it ends until someone die.
finally we managed to with BETA app and REDEMPTION
Salsac says that is Iq test. It IIISSS IQ TEST !
we won it and are in Nem now. Thank you!
After all this joy, we have noticed other things also.
While we were in pain with BETA and Phase, we had a lot time to study ournem.com.
There is no doub that we see a Hamlet there.
Last year my co-worker adviced me to read Shakespeare. I took Hamlet and read. Todays when I stop to thinking somethin , my friend always ask: Something rotten in Denmark?
And layghs. Now it comes to my mind: something wrong in nem?
In nem forum is one hamlet fighting against ghosts. It is funny, but also not. It looks his right but noone give a sht. What is right in nem? To be or not to be?
That is from Shakespear. There is all that. Gold silver ghosts plans laughs angrys hopes.
But it is sorrow. Because it ends until someone die.
Beg your pardon ? Calling on the Swahili translator...quick !!!!! You have your NEM, thats the main thing
translator doesnt help him
he is idi...? and writes bs. bs.
That is acting for azz. They show u all kin theatre to make them believable. And u buy it
He dont understand that all is just theatre ,PR game.
That act will show all the world that Marx is not dead!
He lives in NEM
Look at xtesters letter.
Millions millions coins are took to socialism. Vry big whales are born. Look what happend in east europe..
NxT's whales are nothng when u see Nems.
This is not fud take it as writt
Im not stupid, i see whats going!!! You are azz youself!
We can count, but we are poor and have only 10th off one share. We let rich take and make moore busines. We cant take or make aplication NIS and else.
We can count that devs take 4 billions. But they know what to do with it. We dont know. What can we do?
Nothing what can u do?? Take your head out off bush! Stand up and shout if youre man!
Read news http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
Do u understand that.?
Raed first, write then.
Shocking, absolutly shocking!
My last post is moderated away!Why!
Was it the Truth in my post? Must have been. Truth hurts.
Idont know. I must guess.
I must change my words too. Because I want to write, tell THE TRUTH.
The spirit of NEM community is not so great anymore. There is good reason.
In NEM has been formed some small group. There the most active people and core team members use power. First they discuss and plan. Only they. The plan may be good, it looks good and it is shoveled to throats of the rest community. [
b]Regrettably the rest community means only 50 people[/b] because many trust to teams and are very passive; if they read about some election , they may ignore it because they trust Nem will get it well.
To shovel plan to 50 throats is not difficult. In truth they need to win only 15 people. The Gruppe has 20 members and gets those 15 more, it is enoug for win TheElection easily. This means that small group can control NEM.
They show up very joyful messages: great! nice ! good work! wonderful progress! let's make world NEM!
At the backstage they plann how using communitys money they have total access and power.
Very regretable. Rockethead is using very bad language and outright threats and intimidations to take honest community members silent, making them leave NEM community. Why he is not modderated???
This is the spirit of Nem. Threats, manipulation, flawed elections. What else?,,,,,
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
We have arrived happily to Nem! Finally
finally we managed to with BETA app and REDEMPTION
Salsac says that is Iq test. It IIISSS IQ TEST !
we won it and are in Nem now. Thank you!
After all this joy, we have noticed other things also.
While we were in pain with BETA and Phase, we had a lot time to study ournem.com.
There is no doub that we see a Hamlet there.
Last year my co-worker adviced me to read Shakespeare. I took Hamlet and read. Todays when I stop to thinking somethin , my friend always ask: Something rotten in Denmark?
And layghs. Now it comes to my mind: something wrong in nem?
In nem forum is one hamlet fighting against ghosts. It is funny, but also not. It looks his right but noone give a sht. What is right in nem? To be or not to be?
That is from Shakespear. There is all that. Gold silver ghosts plans laughs angrys hopes.
But it is sorrow. Because it ends until someone die.
finally we managed to with BETA app and REDEMPTION
Salsac says that is Iq test. It IIISSS IQ TEST !
we won it and are in Nem now. Thank you!
After all this joy, we have noticed other things also.
While we were in pain with BETA and Phase, we had a lot time to study ournem.com.
There is no doub that we see a Hamlet there.
Last year my co-worker adviced me to read Shakespeare. I took Hamlet and read. Todays when I stop to thinking somethin , my friend always ask: Something rotten in Denmark?
And layghs. Now it comes to my mind: something wrong in nem?
In nem forum is one hamlet fighting against ghosts. It is funny, but also not. It looks his right but noone give a sht. What is right in nem? To be or not to be?
That is from Shakespear. There is all that. Gold silver ghosts plans laughs angrys hopes.
But it is sorrow. Because it ends until someone die.
Beg your pardon ? Calling on the Swahili translator...quick !!!!! You have your NEM, thats the main thing
translator doesnt help him
he is idi...? and writes bs. bs.
That is acting for azz. They show u all kin theatre to make them believable. And u buy it
He dont understand that all is just theatre ,PR game.
That act will show all the world that Marx is not dead!
He lives in NEM
Look at xtesters letter.
Millions millions coins are took to socialism. Vry big whales are born. Look what happend in east europe..
NxT's whales are nothng when u see Nems.
This is not fud take it as writt
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
I thought this was a moderated thread...
It is wise to know what is moderation and what is censorship
It's enough to look at your post history.
what is wrng in my post history?! i dont know, tell me! Remember Im not peter gabriel, just gpage
I made some studies about scams. Don't be afraid but I'm a conman. Let's just play that game
Conman - if i am only college boy or student, my con is simple pumpy dumpy, ya know it. it is soon over. you cover your loss in three days.
Beware if I am not student and i have deep pockets. Then i have group of poor studentson my work, devs who make cryptos. Als i have banker standing behind my me. This con isnt over in week, not in montjh. It goes and goes. It collects real money from invstors. For tem we con play very nice theatre play. It amuses all. At first.In the end it amuses only conmans. The other share holders cry, investors cry. That is con.
How you can know what is con theatre play?
It is dificult. Theatre looks good and honesty and rich. And sweet and comfort for all world. It is directed by con theatre director.
The director has a favourite movei: The Sting.
No, it is not most favourite. He likes most Godfather 1, 2,3. Then The Sting.
Story of play goes in this way.
Advertise, Advertise, Advertise the cryptocoin. It collects lot of
members and theygive money to play. Start projevt, show that it works,
Advertise Advertise Advertise. Buy members trust. Try get members, who are well known somewhere and educated and clever and maybe mastermind
That brings trust to project. And then come investors.
That is end of act I.
II act starts.
In the mean time put student playing in crypto exchanges: buy sell buy sell. When some win is in conmans pocket, 1, 2, or 3 leaves the coin.
With money. Investors are mad but they still hope.
The rest conman blame those who left. Members and investors believe that.
The con theatre continues. when they say that we will make this suceed, we all know it works, it is better than bitcoin, better than any coin.Members and new investors believe, they want to believ when they want to come rich.
III act.
Cryptocoin is in steady mode. Everything works and is smooth. But new money is not coming. Investors are waiting.
All Quiet on the Western Front. That is directors favourite, numb 5.
Also conmans get hot. They are not making money in the coin. They want to make money somewhere else. They start dropping, one by one.
It make no trouble to coin. In the coin is many members who believe in project more than to god. Those clever guys strugle to get results.
Conmans say bravo and again advertise, advertise.
Director knows psychology, directs project leaders with skill to final target.
More investors are coming. Project gets honour medal and members small money. They start running new projects. They dont know that last con is coming.
When it comes, it is BIG surprise. It will just blow away a big cash. Nobody can believe it. Everybodu just asks, will the coin continue ...
??END of act III.
Remember. This is not fud. Take this as a writ
Those Acts I Ii III are only frames. Inside them is many nice small acts. There is good actors, great teamwork. exampl when some one says negative things, team say it is fud or it is shoveled all over with dirt. Or try to forget it with new interesting discussion with out quotes
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
I thought this was a moderated thread...
It is wise to know what is moderation and what is censorship
It's enough to look at your post history.
what is wrng in my post history?! i dont know, tell me! Remember Im not peter gabriel, just gpage
I made some studies about scams. Don't be afraid but I'm a conman. Let's just play that game
Conman - if i am only college boy or student, my con is simple pumpy dumpy, ya know it. it is soon over. you cover your loss in three days.
Beware if I am not student and i have deep pockets. Then i have group of poor studentson my work, devs who make cryptos. Als i have banker standing behind my me. This con isnt over in week, not in montjh. It goes and goes. It collects real money from invstors. For tem we con play very nice theatre play. It amuses all. At first.In the end it amuses only conmans. The other share holders cry, investors cry. That is con.
How you can know what is con theatre play?
It is dificult. Theatre looks good and honesty and rich. And sweet and comfort for all world. It is directed by con theatre director.
The director has a favourite movei: The Sting.
No, it is not most favourite. He likes most Godfather 1, 2,3. Then The Sting.
Story of play goes in this way.
Advertise, Advertise, Advertise the cryptocoin. It collects lot of
members and theygive money to play. Start projevt, show that it works,
Advertise Advertise Advertise. Buy members trust. Try get members, who are well known somewhere and educated and clever and maybe mastermind
That brings trust to project. And then come investors.
That is end of act I.
II act starts.
In the mean time put student playing in crypto exchanges: buy sell buy sell. When some win is in conmans pocket, 1, 2, or 3 leaves the coin.
With money. Investors are mad but they still hope.
The rest conman blame those who left. Members and investors believe that.
The con theatre continues. when they say that we will make this suceed, we all know it works, it is better than bitcoin, better than any coin.Members and new investors believe, they want to believ when they want to come rich.
III act.
Cryptocoin is in steady mode. Everything works and is smooth. But new money is not coming. Investors are waiting.
All Quiet on the Western Front. That is directors favourite, numb 5.
Also conmans get hot. They are not making money in the coin. They want to make money somewhere else. They start dropping, one by one.
It make no trouble to coin. In the coin is many members who believe in project more than to god. Those clever guys strugle to get results.
Conmans say bravo and again advertise, advertise.
Director knows psychology, directs project leaders with skill to final target.
More investors are coming. Project gets honour medal and members small money. They start running new projects. They dont know that last con is coming.
When it comes, it is BIG surprise. It will just blow away a big cash. Nobody can believe it. Everybodu just asks, will the coin continue ...
??END of act III.
Remember. This is not fud. Take this as a writ
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
I thought this was a moderated thread...
It is wise to know what is moderation and what is censorship
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
Is NEM turning into a scam?
Definitely there are signs of that
Investors should be very careful with big changes. When reading these comments, ther is no doubt that cons can be very intelligently planned and they are so complex , that noone can foresee it coming.
http://blog.bluemeanie.net/2014/10/nxtautodac-jl777-stolen-nxt.html
...worried ... insiders ..... NEM ....scam... Dark market...real crimes...ponzi...
if I were a conman , I wanted to take everything before the real game starts and then shoot my own leg and leave the pitch .
You can hear laugh when walking inthe bank.
Definitely there are signs of that
Investors should be very careful with big changes. When reading these comments, ther is no doubt that cons can be very intelligently planned and they are so complex , that noone can foresee it coming.
http://blog.bluemeanie.net/2014/10/nxtautodac-jl777-stolen-nxt.html
...worried ... insiders ..... NEM ....scam... Dark market...real crimes...ponzi...
if I were a conman , I wanted to take everything before the real game starts and then shoot my own leg and leave the pitch .
You can hear laugh when walking inthe bank.
Has Jeff Garzik commented NEM ...like https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-core-developer-jeff-garzik-believes-nxt-is-a-scamcoin
article contains a check list. How many NEM gets out of nine?
Could you just fuck off? Pure FUD and nonsense.
The math also doesn't account for it. NEM distribution had 1200+ veteran accounts on Bitcointalk back in March 2014. If those 1200 had 1800 socks then it is still an initial distribution of 1200 which is better than the initial distribution of Bitcoin and every other alternate.
The thing is veteran accounts can also be socks. Not saying that's the case, but it's possible.
These numbers are completely meaningless in any case. Don't understand why people even bring this up, as if it is somehow tied to the value of NEM.
I also think NEMcoin is scam.
Who would buy some dubious coin, the market is saturated. NEmcoin is nothing exceptional,
Deal with it
Many decided to join NEM, coz it was promising and seemed to be exceptional. The near months will show, how it manages to fulfill people's expectations.
nem will surpass most expectations.. im sure of it
Naturally you can write "sure" "exceptional" "nemtastic" etc etc etc
in any case those are just your own religion.
You have seen a moved stone beside the cave. You think that Nem has risen amd takes you to heaven even to da moon.
It's all religion , folks.
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
Is NEM turning into a scam?
Definitely there are signs of that
Investors should be very careful with big changes. When reading these comments, ther is no doubt that cons can be very intelligently planned and they are so complex , that noone can foresee it coming.
http://blog.bluemeanie.net/2014/10/nxtautodac-jl777-stolen-nxt.html
...worried ... insiders ..... NEM ....scam... Dark market...real crimes...ponzi...
if I were a conman , I wanted to take everything before the real game starts and then shoot my own leg and leave the pitch .
You can hear laugh when walking inthe bank.
Definitely there are signs of that
Investors should be very careful with big changes. When reading these comments, ther is no doubt that cons can be very intelligently planned and they are so complex , that noone can foresee it coming.
http://blog.bluemeanie.net/2014/10/nxtautodac-jl777-stolen-nxt.html
...worried ... insiders ..... NEM ....scam... Dark market...real crimes...ponzi...
if I were a conman , I wanted to take everything before the real game starts and then shoot my own leg and leave the pitch .
You can hear laugh when walking inthe bank.
Has Jeff Garzik commented NEM ...like https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-core-developer-jeff-garzik-believes-nxt-is-a-scamcoin
article contains a check list. How many NEM gets out of nine?
Could you just fuck off? Pure FUD and nonsense.
good
first out of nine .... ""Attacking critics, rather than responding to criticism
Is Kyle's article fud?
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
Is NEM turning into a scam?
Definitely there are signs of that
Investors should be very careful with big changes. When reading these comments, ther is no doubt that cons can be very intelligently planned and they are so complex , that noone can foresee it coming.
http://blog.bluemeanie.net/2014/10/nxtautodac-jl777-stolen-nxt.html
...worried ... insiders ..... NEM ....scam... Dark market...real crimes...ponzi...
if I were a conman , I wanted to take everything before the real game starts and then shoot my own leg and leave the pitch .
You can hear laugh when walking inthe bank.
Definitely there are signs of that
Investors should be very careful with big changes. When reading these comments, ther is no doubt that cons can be very intelligently planned and they are so complex , that noone can foresee it coming.
http://blog.bluemeanie.net/2014/10/nxtautodac-jl777-stolen-nxt.html
...worried ... insiders ..... NEM ....scam... Dark market...real crimes...ponzi...
if I were a conman , I wanted to take everything before the real game starts and then shoot my own leg and leave the pitch .
You can hear laugh when walking inthe bank.
Has Jeff Garzik commented NEM ...like https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-core-developer-jeff-garzik-believes-nxt-is-a-scamcoin
article contains a check list. How many NEM gets out of nine?
Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends on 22 November[Updates&Discussion]
Is NEM turning into a scam?
Definitely there are signs of that
Investors should be very careful with big changes. When reading these comments, ther is no doubt that cons can be very intelligently planned and they are so complex , that noone can foresee it coming.
http://blog.bluemeanie.net/2014/10/nxtautodac-jl777-stolen-nxt.html
...worried ... insiders ..... NEM ....scam... Dark market...real crimes...ponzi...
if I were a conman , I wanted to take everything before the real game starts and then shoot my own leg and leave the pitch .
You can hear laugh when walking inthe bank.
Definitely there are signs of that
Investors should be very careful with big changes. When reading these comments, ther is no doubt that cons can be very intelligently planned and they are so complex , that noone can foresee it coming.
http://blog.bluemeanie.net/2014/10/nxtautodac-jl777-stolen-nxt.html
...worried ... insiders ..... NEM ....scam... Dark market...real crimes...ponzi...
if I were a conman , I wanted to take everything before the real game starts and then shoot my own leg and leave the pitch .
You can hear laugh when walking inthe bank.
Re: NEM Official Thread - Beta is here/Phase 2 Redemption begins[Updates&Discussion]
Very professional
Updated Guide
Since there was a lot of confusion
in this situation my bank or my shop would have said
Thank you for your reponse referring our advertisement.
In the future we will concentrate more to the lucidness of our products.
We wil sincearly take into consideration all you aspects.
My two NEMs worth......
With people on a waiting list, giving multiple stakes to a single person seems to be a recipe for disaster. If these people feel so 'precious' about the stake then let them buy them @ market rate once NEM is live. IMO zero involvement in NEM should = zero stake.
Why not make sure people on waiting list get it first, refund the rest and put the stakes left into the auction and whatever funds are gained use them for marketing of NEM.
This will do more for NEM than 5/10/15/20 stakes for someone who says he/she has bough them for someone.
With people on a waiting list, giving multiple stakes to a single person seems to be a recipe for disaster. If these people feel so 'precious' about the stake then let them buy them @ market rate once NEM is live. IMO zero involvement in NEM should = zero stake.
Why not make sure people on waiting list get it first, refund the rest and put the stakes left into the auction and whatever funds are gained use them for marketing of NEM.
This will do more for NEM than 5/10/15/20 stakes for someone who says he/she has bough them for someone.
i like it. so i think also but let´s see i have a eye of this here
+1
is NEM turning into a scam? For scam it is very nice to have as much stakeholders as possible, even though they are not real individuals. Wow, it is a very good advertisement to say that Nem has 4000 initial stakeholders.
Another point for scam.
Where is the real technical progress? No demo no video?
For scam it is suitable to just collect mass of greedy investors with hype. Hype with childish slogans like "we are no envy movement", hah. That is the alibi of the scam project! The alibi prevents calling the justice against sockpuppets, you must not call egalitarian NEm because it would be ENVY !!! ENVY, hah bsh.
Has NEM created very genius way to get many members to be cheated?
Nem rules seem to atract people of egalitarian. They will get in to nem.
Nem rules seem to allow sockpuppets. They will get in to nem.
Nem rules seem to say "Let the little stakeholders come to me, and not hinder them, for the kingdom of movement belongs to such as these."
All will come. Some require egalitarian. To them it is said: NO ENVY!
They will shut themselves up, because they won't risk their shares. Sockpuppets are silent, they only laugh in their own hideouts.
After all this the nem train just continues until it meets the real rails.
Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
So of the people on the waiting list, what kind of people will most likely get in? Considering what they can bring to the table. And will they have to provide solid proof that they are who they say they are?
Maybe Utopianfuture should recruit 100 good people or so.
Maybe Utopianfuture should recruit 100 good people or so.
it take us long time to wait with no new information and we do not know whether we were take as a backup investor ，we need to know the truth here.
I would recommend inviting Sr. members of this forum to participate with a share of NEM. There is no advantage to allowing the newbie "this coin great" members who are most likely sockpuppets anyway.
+1
+100
will they get a free stake?
Quote from: acc47 link=topic=496112.msg5648825#msg5648825
jkoil, how many accounts you have? Don't think you do all this work for one stake. You are trying to become the 'appointed' auditor so that no one finds you Pretty smart, heh?
BTW, I have 47 accounts. Catch me if you can.
BTW, I have 47 accounts. Catch me if you can.
are you from the most corrupted countries?
You seem to know how the authorities work
Nem police, is it corrupted? I have not thought so. I thought that they do audit work because they know math and codes. First, they can get a salary from that work. Maybe half a stake? Second, every fraudster they find, increases everyone's share by 1000 coins.
acc47, I bet you can count. Why you do that? Every fraudster they get, gives you 47000 coins. Are you really stupid, or are you not?