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Re: [BITOBS] Open-ended Investment Fund With Variable Capital
Monthly Report - November:
Result: the NAV/share increased by 12.24%.
Our previous report was posted on November 25th. We refer to this post for information on the Fund until that date.
In the last couple days, we noticed the Bitcoin exchange rate culminating. Additional news reports from third parties made us decide to sell the majority of our Bitcoins for over $1100 each. Fortunately, we have indeed seen the price decline to $980 (on Bitstamp) as of this moment. We expect the Bitcoin price to decline even further.
Furthermore, we have paid back our fiat debt, which was borrowed in the beginning of the month. These funds gained a return of almost 200% until November 30th.
Although nothing to do with the BITOBS fund, I have personally gained staggering results from my altcoin fund, which I have been operating since May. This has been a passive investment until last week where active trading and new investments have led to an increase in the total NAV by 453% since May.
We will allow the BITOBS to gain results from investing in altcoins as well by adding this new strategy to our investment fund. This will be described on our website this week.
Overall it has been a good and educational month, and we are pleased with the result.
Result: the NAV/share increased by 12.24%.
Our previous report was posted on November 25th. We refer to this post for information on the Fund until that date.
In the last couple days, we noticed the Bitcoin exchange rate culminating. Additional news reports from third parties made us decide to sell the majority of our Bitcoins for over $1100 each. Fortunately, we have indeed seen the price decline to $980 (on Bitstamp) as of this moment. We expect the Bitcoin price to decline even further.
Furthermore, we have paid back our fiat debt, which was borrowed in the beginning of the month. These funds gained a return of almost 200% until November 30th.
Although nothing to do with the BITOBS fund, I have personally gained staggering results from my altcoin fund, which I have been operating since May. This has been a passive investment until last week where active trading and new investments have led to an increase in the total NAV by 453% since May.
We will allow the BITOBS to gain results from investing in altcoins as well by adding this new strategy to our investment fund. This will be described on our website this week.
Overall it has been a good and educational month, and we are pleased with the result.
Re: [BITOBS] Open-ended Investment Fund With Variable Capital
List of shareholders:
| Bitcoin address | Amount of shares | |
| 15uDCqxq58mxHbt1wJWofvCoqFWM2mqnhx | 20000 | |
| 15nmx7cTm36J3HqFcLEUiarTDx5HTAd2wu | 22300 | |
| 1nAjoG9UZKo1Z6KBQz5seC4n4jP9y5kyq | 4400 | |
| 1LX1836w5bVdGnwnJd8r3aJEcZMCcYG4kp | 500 | |
| 1J5vJemVbP79LciCm5tHWxTjG4CAx3xraU | 1000 | |
| 1FRYcvKQPQieANCw2ZpeYZTEbAxuyxxZDZ | 2000 | |
| 1PPTs1uS5CQ3TNQkpNRNn2Z6Dt5cPvXsAe | 200 | |
| 18LJhwUGvTCQRtzfqjKtrA1fDrgbzSuX2T | 100 | |
| 19vgHnf6TKvRbv5sPqYsgd1GrE2f2bbP2o | 100 | |
| 1D5YZTGS7bTKzb5GeTHeb4hjaniv8YcMhU | 109 | |
| 13xFWLjCfgwWjvBnTTy2RULpaJwKqMwKzG | 353 | |
| 18CaxbkRPVrufpPT1UEQ2zqdidWc5hQkAW | 100 |
Cryptobonds.net will be closing down on December 31st.
We will be focusing on our btc-denominated variable capital fund called BITOBS.
As of today, all members have been notified.
Members that have active bonds on our website will receive a refund of the face value plus accrued interest (calculated until November 31st).
We will do our best to make sure that the close-down will go smoothly. If there are unclarities or problems post here or e-mail us at info@cryptobonds.net.
Sincerely,
azaniet
We will be focusing on our btc-denominated variable capital fund called BITOBS.
As of today, all members have been notified.
Members that have active bonds on our website will receive a refund of the face value plus accrued interest (calculated until November 31st).
We will do our best to make sure that the close-down will go smoothly. If there are unclarities or problems post here or e-mail us at info@cryptobonds.net.
Sincerely,
azaniet
Re: [BITOBS] Open-ended Investment Fund With Variable Capital
List of shareholders:
| Bitcoin address | Amount of shares | |
| 15uDCqxq58mxHbt1wJWofvCoqFWM2mqnhx | 20000 | |
| 15nmx7cTm36J3HqFcLEUiarTDx5HTAd2wu | 22300 | |
| 1nAjoG9UZKo1Z6KBQz5seC4n4jP9y5kyq | 4400 | |
| 1LX1836w5bVdGnwnJd8r3aJEcZMCcYG4kp | 500 | |
| 1J5vJemVbP79LciCm5tHWxTjG4CAx3xraU | 1000 | |
| 1FRYcvKQPQieANCw2ZpeYZTEbAxuyxxZDZ | 2000 | |
| 1PPTs1uS5CQ3TNQkpNRNn2Z6Dt5cPvXsAe | 200 | |
| 18LJhwUGvTCQRtzfqjKtrA1fDrgbzSuX2T | 100 | |
| 19vgHnf6TKvRbv5sPqYsgd1GrE2f2bbP2o | 100 | |
| 1D5YZTGS7bTKzb5GeTHeb4hjaniv8YcMhU | 109 |
This is the official BITOBS thread serving as a means of communicating important notices, and answering questions. It can also serve as platform for trading shares between investors.
Announcement of the Fund
Previous Thread
I have built a website with information on the fund that I am operating.
Its named BITOBS: www.bitobs.net
Logo:
http://bitobs.net/img/logo.png
The fund is now public, so everyone can invest.
I have tried to be as clear as possible about how the Fund is operated.
If you are interested, please have a look and let me know when anything is unclear or should be further explained.
Currently, the Fund will only accept the issuance and redemption of shares directly.
Regarding a possible IPO please let me know whether you would be interested in this. Of course, it would make shares freely tradable between investors. However, the unreliability of the Bitcoin securities exchanges is a problem (e.g. withdrawals from BitFunder are currently stuck). Cryptostocks is an option, but involves costs. Maybe a forum trading method with escrow would be a more viable option. Your opinion is appreciated.
What is BITOBS?
BITOBS is an open-ended investment fund with a variable capital. The objective of the Fund is to obtain a positive return while preserving a sufficient risk spreading. The aim is to realize an average annual total return of at least 25%, after deduction of all expenses.
Investment strategy (short version):
1. Anticipating the Bitcoin exchange rate.
2. Investing in arbitrage opportunities that may arise.
Investment restrictions (short version):
Other notes:
Monthly Report - October:
Result: the NAV/share decreased by 1.52%.
Due to a significant increase in the Bitcoin exchange rate, the Fund struggled to retain its value. Although, we were able to gain sporadic returns which minimized the Fund's depreciation, this month's return is -1.52%.
Generally, a part of our strategy involves selling part of the Fund's Bitcoins whenever there is a reason to do so, i.e. an indication of an imminent decrease in the Bitcoin exchange rate. While there were almost none of these indications, we have held 75% of the Fund's value in Bitcoin, most of the time. The other 25% of Fund's NAV (held in fiat) decreased by almost 37% (BTC-denominated).
The Silk Road raid of October 2nd; we were able to profit from the price drop by selling part of the Fund's Bitcoins before the exchange rate decreased any further. Additional active trading resulted in a decent return of 9% for that day.
Market inefficiencies were exploited wherever possible, however the opportunities were limited. Any schemes that would involve selling Bitcoins and withdrawing fiat through Mt.Gox have been avoided due to the (increasingly) long 'cycle times' associated with Mt.Gox withdrawals.
Finally, we were able to 'bet' on the Bitcoin price going up, by borrowing fiat money (an equivalent of 10% of the Fund's NAV). After deduction of interest payments, these funds gained a 19.67% return.
Overall, it has been a month in which the Fund struggled due to the decreasing value of the fiat held by the Fund, but the overall result of -1.52% is tolerable.
I will do my best to continue creating value for my investors. Feedback is always welcome!
Announcement of the Fund
Previous Thread
I have built a website with information on the fund that I am operating.
Its named BITOBS: www.bitobs.net
Logo:
http://bitobs.net/img/logo.png
The fund is now public, so everyone can invest.
I have tried to be as clear as possible about how the Fund is operated.
If you are interested, please have a look and let me know when anything is unclear or should be further explained.
Currently, the Fund will only accept the issuance and redemption of shares directly.
Regarding a possible IPO please let me know whether you would be interested in this. Of course, it would make shares freely tradable between investors. However, the unreliability of the Bitcoin securities exchanges is a problem (e.g. withdrawals from BitFunder are currently stuck). Cryptostocks is an option, but involves costs. Maybe a forum trading method with escrow would be a more viable option. Your opinion is appreciated.
What is BITOBS?
BITOBS is an open-ended investment fund with a variable capital. The objective of the Fund is to obtain a positive return while preserving a sufficient risk spreading. The aim is to realize an average annual total return of at least 25%, after deduction of all expenses.
Investment strategy (short version):
1. Anticipating the Bitcoin exchange rate.
2. Investing in arbitrage opportunities that may arise.
Investment restrictions (short version):
- At all times, a minimum of 25% of the Funds NAV must be held in fiat or Bitcoin.
- Investments in Bitcoin (mining) assets are not permitted.
- A maximum of 50% of the Funds size can be used for any investment opportunity.
- Stock lending is permitted.
- Borrowing is permitted for up to 25% of the Fund's NAV.
Other notes:
- Current NAV/share is BTC0.012583
- Minimum investment is 100 shares.
Monthly Report - October:
Result: the NAV/share decreased by 1.52%.
Due to a significant increase in the Bitcoin exchange rate, the Fund struggled to retain its value. Although, we were able to gain sporadic returns which minimized the Fund's depreciation, this month's return is -1.52%.
Generally, a part of our strategy involves selling part of the Fund's Bitcoins whenever there is a reason to do so, i.e. an indication of an imminent decrease in the Bitcoin exchange rate. While there were almost none of these indications, we have held 75% of the Fund's value in Bitcoin, most of the time. The other 25% of Fund's NAV (held in fiat) decreased by almost 37% (BTC-denominated).
The Silk Road raid of October 2nd; we were able to profit from the price drop by selling part of the Fund's Bitcoins before the exchange rate decreased any further. Additional active trading resulted in a decent return of 9% for that day.
Market inefficiencies were exploited wherever possible, however the opportunities were limited. Any schemes that would involve selling Bitcoins and withdrawing fiat through Mt.Gox have been avoided due to the (increasingly) long 'cycle times' associated with Mt.Gox withdrawals.
Finally, we were able to 'bet' on the Bitcoin price going up, by borrowing fiat money (an equivalent of 10% of the Fund's NAV). After deduction of interest payments, these funds gained a 19.67% return.
Overall, it has been a month in which the Fund struggled due to the decreasing value of the fiat held by the Fund, but the overall result of -1.52% is tolerable.
I will do my best to continue creating value for my investors. Feedback is always welcome!
25% USD annual or BTC?
Annual return of 25% BTC. All the performance results are btc-denominated as well.
I am also considering accepting fiat for issuing shares, however this would require additional legal counsil and cost. So, for the time being I am accepting btc only.
Hi all,
I have built a website with information on the fund that I am operating. I will also open an 'official' thread (seems convenient).
Its named BITOBS: www.bitobs.net
http://bitobs.net/img/logo.png
The fund is now public, so everyone can invest.
I have tried to be as clear as possible about how the Fund is operated.
If you are interested, please have a look and let me know when anything is unclear or should be further explained.
Currently, the Fund will only accept the issuance and redemption of shares directly.
Regarding a possible IPO please let me know whether you would be interested in this. Of course, it would make shares freely tradable between investors. However, the unreliability of the Bitcoin securities exchanges is a problem (e.g. withdrawals from BitFunder are currently stuck). Cryptostocks is an option, but involves costs. Maybe a forum trading method with escrow would be a more viable option. Your opinion is appreciated.
What is BITOBS?
BITOBS is an open-ended investment fund with a variable capital. The objective of the Fund is to obtain a positive return while preserving a sufficient risk spreading. The aim is to realize an average annual total return of at least 25%, after deduction of all expenses.
Investment strategy (short version):
1. Anticipating the Bitcoin exchange rate.
2. Investing in arbitrage opportunities that may arise.
Investment restrictions (short version):
Other notes:
Monthly Report - October:
Result: the NAV/share decreased by 1.52%.
Due to a significant increase in the Bitcoin exchange rate, the Fund struggled to retain its value. Although, we were able to gain sporadic returns which minimized the Fund's depreciation, this month's return is -1.52%.
Generally, a part of our strategy involves selling part of the Fund's Bitcoins whenever there is a reason to do so, i.e. an indication of an imminent decrease in the Bitcoin exchange rate. While there were almost none of these indications, we have held 75% of the Fund's value in Bitcoin, most of the time. The other 25% of Fund's NAV (held in fiat) decreased by almost 37% (BTC-denominated).
The Silk Road raid of October 2nd; we were able to profit from the price drop by selling part of the Fund's Bitcoins before the exchange rate decreased any further. Additional active trading resulted in a decent return of 9% for that day.
Market inefficiencies were exploited wherever possible, however the opportunities were limited. Any schemes that would involve selling Bitcoins and withdrawing fiat through Mt.Gox have been avoided due to the (increasingly) long 'cycle times' associated with Mt.Gox withdrawals.
Finally, we were able to 'bet' on the Bitcoin price going up, by borrowing fiat money (an equivalent of 10% of the Fund's NAV). After deduction of interest payments, these funds gained a 19.67% return.
Overall, it has been a month in which the Fund struggled due to the decreasing value of the fiat held by the Fund, but the overall result of -1.52% is tolerable.
I will do my best to continue creating value for my investors. Feedback is always welcome!
I have built a website with information on the fund that I am operating. I will also open an 'official' thread (seems convenient).
Its named BITOBS: www.bitobs.net
http://bitobs.net/img/logo.png
The fund is now public, so everyone can invest.
I have tried to be as clear as possible about how the Fund is operated.
If you are interested, please have a look and let me know when anything is unclear or should be further explained.
Currently, the Fund will only accept the issuance and redemption of shares directly.
Regarding a possible IPO please let me know whether you would be interested in this. Of course, it would make shares freely tradable between investors. However, the unreliability of the Bitcoin securities exchanges is a problem (e.g. withdrawals from BitFunder are currently stuck). Cryptostocks is an option, but involves costs. Maybe a forum trading method with escrow would be a more viable option. Your opinion is appreciated.
What is BITOBS?
BITOBS is an open-ended investment fund with a variable capital. The objective of the Fund is to obtain a positive return while preserving a sufficient risk spreading. The aim is to realize an average annual total return of at least 25%, after deduction of all expenses.
Investment strategy (short version):
1. Anticipating the Bitcoin exchange rate.
2. Investing in arbitrage opportunities that may arise.
Investment restrictions (short version):
- At all times, a minimum of 25% of the Funds NAV must be held in fiat or Bitcoin.
- Investments in Bitcoin (mining) assets are not permitted.
- A maximum of 50% of the Funds size can be used for any investment opportunity.
- Stock lending is permitted.
- Borrowing is permitted for up to 25% of the Fund's NAV.
Other notes:
- Current NAV/share is BTC0.012583
- Minimum investment is 100 shares.
Monthly Report - October:
Result: the NAV/share decreased by 1.52%.
Due to a significant increase in the Bitcoin exchange rate, the Fund struggled to retain its value. Although, we were able to gain sporadic returns which minimized the Fund's depreciation, this month's return is -1.52%.
Generally, a part of our strategy involves selling part of the Fund's Bitcoins whenever there is a reason to do so, i.e. an indication of an imminent decrease in the Bitcoin exchange rate. While there were almost none of these indications, we have held 75% of the Fund's value in Bitcoin, most of the time. The other 25% of Fund's NAV (held in fiat) decreased by almost 37% (BTC-denominated).
The Silk Road raid of October 2nd; we were able to profit from the price drop by selling part of the Fund's Bitcoins before the exchange rate decreased any further. Additional active trading resulted in a decent return of 9% for that day.
Market inefficiencies were exploited wherever possible, however the opportunities were limited. Any schemes that would involve selling Bitcoins and withdrawing fiat through Mt.Gox have been avoided due to the (increasingly) long 'cycle times' associated with Mt.Gox withdrawals.
Finally, we were able to 'bet' on the Bitcoin price going up, by borrowing fiat money (an equivalent of 10% of the Fund's NAV). After deduction of interest payments, these funds gained a 19.67% return.
Overall, it has been a month in which the Fund struggled due to the decreasing value of the fiat held by the Fund, but the overall result of -1.52% is tolerable.
I will do my best to continue creating value for my investors. Feedback is always welcome!
Re: [WeExchange]WARNING!The Fall of Ukyo II: Ukyo Digs a Hole?!WARNING![WeExchange]
It is the ticket date, not the withdrawal date.
You must have raised a ticket.
You must have raised a ticket.
Complete nonsense right here..
Re: [WeExchange]WARNING!The Fall of Ukyo II: Ukyo Digs a Hole?!WARNING![WeExchange]
***Dammnit. Why can't Ukyo (and TradeFortress) keep their promises and act like responsible people.
And why do we need to make a ticket? Is it not perfectly clear that we would like to withdraw when there is a withdrawal request in the first place?
I find it completely unfair to process the withdrawals according to the tickets order.
And why do we need to make a ticket? Is it not perfectly clear that we would like to withdraw when there is a withdrawal request in the first place?
I find it completely unfair to process the withdrawals according to the tickets order.
I reckon it won't be much work to list the 'processing' (or manual) withdrawals here accompanied with a status; paid or processing . For example the withdrawal ID as shown in WeExchange (probably these ID's will already be higher for newer withdrawals). Seems to me like a simple copy past from database. Then every creditor will have some information about how fast the manual withdrawals are being processed and would be alot less panicked. At least it would partially calm my worries.
Well, I'm still waiting for my October 23 withdrawal..
Over the course of the last few weeks, I've tried everything:
1)opened multiple support tickets on weexchange
2)opened a support ticket on bitfunder
3)sent emails
4)found the secret hotline number, called it every other day
5)opened an account on bitcointalk just to send ukyo a pm
and this is the feedback I received:
1)No reply
2)"Please contact weexchange"
3)No reply
4)"Ukyo is at a meeting"
5)No reply
It's only 19.1BTC, but these are all the bitcoins that I have. And if getting them back requires legal action, then I will do so. I'm too tired of this.
Over the course of the last few weeks, I've tried everything:
1)opened multiple support tickets on weexchange
2)opened a support ticket on bitfunder
3)sent emails
4)found the secret hotline number, called it every other day
5)opened an account on bitcointalk just to send ukyo a pm
and this is the feedback I received:
1)No reply
2)"Please contact weexchange"
3)No reply
4)"Ukyo is at a meeting"
5)No reply
It's only 19.1BTC, but these are all the bitcoins that I have. And if getting them back requires legal action, then I will do so. I'm too tired of this.
Exactly the same here..
I just don't understand how it's possible that Ukyo is 'fixing' weExchange's withdrawal system, while there is up to today still no withdrawal that will not receive error : ' could not connect to 2nd stage server' (I just made another small one today). All new withdrawals will just add to the list of manual withdrawals.
In my opinion, the most likely explanation for this fiasco is that Ukyo's bitcoin reserves are indeed running low, and that this problem is being 'resolved' by postponing the withdrawals.
In my opinion, the most likely explanation for this fiasco is that Ukyo's bitcoin reserves are indeed running low, and that this problem is being 'resolved' by postponing the withdrawals.
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BID:
10@0.06 nwfella
10@0.05 BKM
10@0.041 nwfella
50@0.04 Bittymitty
600@0.025 mmmerlin
100@0.022 7cZ0
ASK:
31@0.048 azaniet
250@0.050 Phraust
72@0.06 fishnet (all or none)
100@0.065 rustyh17
5@0.09 bittymitty
283@0.095 woeliewoelie
270@0.1 elitenoob
100@0.115 bittymitty
254@0.15 kaneda2004
2000@0.275 mmmerlin
1000@0.40 contactmike1
10@0.06 nwfella
10@0.05 BKM
10@0.041 nwfella
50@0.04 Bittymitty
600@0.025 mmmerlin
100@0.022 7cZ0
ASK:
31@0.048 azaniet
250@0.050 Phraust
72@0.06 fishnet (all or none)
100@0.065 rustyh17
5@0.09 bittymitty
283@0.095 woeliewoelie
270@0.1 elitenoob
100@0.115 bittymitty
254@0.15 kaneda2004
2000@0.275 mmmerlin
1000@0.40 contactmike1
Willing to sell 31 labrat-mining shares for 1.5 btc. Please PM me if you're interested.