Ok well I've got your answer now JollyGood, and I'll leave it there. If I ever need to hire someone to trash the reputation of a website or person on the web, I'm going to hire you to do it, because you're bloody good at it.

I'm not going to get the last word, and I'm okay with that. I do disagree with some of the things you have said above, I want to make that clear. I believe there was poor planning, but I really don't think this was some massive scam or exit scam.

You're obviously much more invested in this thread than me, so you'll get the last word, but I just wanted to say my story for the record.

As for the future, I hope I get some of my BKB/BKT investment back. Might happen, might not, time will tell.

No, I've got negative things to say. I think the BKB/BKT thing was a big mistake. I think it was a bad idea to stop native BTC investment. I think it sucks that anyone who invested into BKB/BKT lost pretty much everything, and I think that is due to some bad decisions from Dean.

JollyGood - You haven't answered my question. What's your motivation for all of this effort? Were you an investor? Do you run a competing site?

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And ok, ok, I get it, this forum is not responsible for the initial demise of Betking.

HOWEVER, this forum is definitely responsible for the fact that it doesn't get traffic any more.

Ok, I've created a bitcointalk account just to post on this thread, and I have a few things to say.

I've been reading this thread for ages, but some of the things stated recently have annoyed me enough to actually post for once.

My story is that I invested a lot in Pocket Rockets back in the day and it did really well. I found the site to be professional and run honestly. When I went to withdraw large amounts of BTC, a lot of which was profit, it withdrew successfully and on time. If it had been an exit scam or something like that, I wouldn't have expected my profits to come back.

When BetKing's ICO came along, which happened not long after the BTC bubble popped, I went back in with maybe 33% of the profit I had made through Pocket Rockets. There were a few changes from BKB to BKT etc, and it is clear that both BKB and BKT never managed to gain any meaningful market value. The big betters who had made Pocket Rockets so profitable had gone.

I saw over this period that Dean worked on many different ideas, but nothing seemed to work. This very forum started and due to JollyGood's constant bumping and perhaps some SEO magic, this forum became one of the top hits for BetKing.io, which has had a real impact on new user traffic.

I previously felt and I still feel that if Dean were a scammer, he would have left long ago. There is nobody helping him, there are only people criticizing him.

I acknowledge that my hoard of BKT and BKB is now worthless. I don't feel too bad about this, because technically this is money is 33% of the profits that Pocket Rockets made for me, so I'm still ahead. The only value it has at this stage is in the obligation that Dean feels to pay everyone back. By that, I mean, my best chance of making any money back from BKT and BKB is through Dean's efforts to make everyone whole. If Dean goes away, I get nothing back. If BKT and BKB are floated again for sale on an exchange, I get nothing. So, although very optimistic, it is in my best interests to take Dean at his word and encourage him to continue to make other sites to try and make everyone whole. In my dealings with him, I've found him to be honest, and I do believe the whole BKT and BKB thing is not malicious, it is just poorly planned, plus some unfortunate luck.

I do feel for the people who invested into BKB or BKT from scratch and did not have the benefit of being involved in Pocket Rockets earlier. Those people have seen their investment pretty much wiped out. Same goes for people who invested more than their profit from Pocket Rockets.

Finally, talking about some of the folks on this forum.

RHavar - You're the reason why I posted. You said in one of your messages that it is scammy that Dean is creating other sites and not telling the investors the names of the sites. Well of course he is!!! If he were to tell everyone the name of the new sites (Which he is using to try and make everyone whole), the moment this forum caught a whiff of the name, they would run it straight into the ground. Of course he is keeping the names secret! Damned if you do and damned if you don't... what, exactly is he meant to do? And don't give me that whole "Dean should pay everyone from the massive hoard of funds he has scammed"... I saw the bankroll at the time, it was nothing like the figures that are being quoted in this thread.

and finally....

JollyGood - I don't get it. There is some part of your story that I'm not understanding. Why are you spending such an extraordinary amount of time and effort running this particular site into the ground? You've won, mate. Its traffic has been run into the ground because of this very forum, you don't need to do any more. Can you let up and give me a chance of making my investment back please? What's the story? I don't understand why you are doing this. Is it because you were an investor and lost money? Are you running a competing site? I genuinely want to know what is motivating you to spend so much effort on this campaign.

That's my story, thanks for reading.