Yeah, it's called ninja mining and it's disingenuous as fuck, and therefore a massive red flag.

The network is at 840 blocks as of now. Using some simple math tells me it took around 1680 minutes to mine those (2 min per block).

1680 minutes is 28 hours. They published the wallet 8 hours ago on GitHub.

They have barely been live for a day and they are already lying.

Hard pass.

Hey, check these podcasts out, he summed up pretty much the things you asked about

https://thebitcoinpodcast.com/hashing-it-out-14/
And the first part of this podcast https://anchor.fm/CoachCryptos/episodes/Masari--EGEM-SFRX-feat--Thaer-e2hbk9/a-a6aa7r


PS. There are other people involved other than him, who have made excellent projects such as the first client-side web wallet, and uncle mining as soon as it goes through testnet. It's quite community-driven rather than being a one-man project.

Why was the coin listed on two exchanges without disclosing that information to the investors?

Do you realize how unethical and unprofessional that looks?

Hundreds and thousands of people came in with their money to go through ICO and most of them paid $0.1/per coin (depending on the round and all that stuff), but let's say the average price of your coin during ICO was around 10 cents.

Now tell me, who would in their right mind push a coin to an exchange WITHOUT demand because you STILL don't have a working product, even though you uploaded several videos of SIM cards "in action", and on top of that you didn't let your INVESTORS know "Hey, there's a new exchange, you might want to check it out". Feel free to check those two exchanges, and compare selling with buying books and you'll see the results of your incompetence. You cannot list a coin with absolutely zero offerings to the ecosystem, because NO ONE IS GOING TO BUY IT, as you can see on those two shitty exchanges.

I was slapping myself constantly for weeks for being an idiot and putting a lot of money in something that looked somewhat legitimate. The anger has gone away, I have parted with my potential profit.

However, rest assured that I will stay and watch the thread closely and will be more than happy to clash swords with you whenever you come up with the most overused cliche in the past couple of years - "We are working hard. We are sorry. The developers will do this and that and yadda yadda bla bla" That shit doesn't fly after 8 months of silence.

You're either a scam or incredibly incompetent to solve the following -


Seriously? This is your business model? To ASK investors to continue BELIEVING [two ninja exchanges, token swap shitstorm, dev silence] in the project and giving you the TIME NEEDED [IT'S BEEN 9 MONTHS!] to get all the HICCUPS [if it were a hiccup it would have been already resolved] resolved. Yeah, I'm not buying that mate, sorry.

I don't know what's going on, and I don't really want to speculate because there are countless scenarios possible. What I see is that you guys are at a massive halt and are running around like beheaded chickens because you don't know how to solve the issue you have stumbled upon. Now, if you can't solve an issue that's connected to the sheer setup of the coin, how will you tackle much more challenging predicaments along the way?

I completely agree with you and @valgandar in terms of it [the listing] being a welcoming thing. It's a great opportunity for us to "feel the wind" as they say in my country, and see what will it bring in.

If I were to speculate and estimate, it'd definitely bring *something* of value. For example, as LoDo mentioned once, being listed on cryptopia will open the doors to whattomine.com, which is a massive step forward by itself in regards to exposure. The said exposure will hopefully attract new miners and investors alike.

Luckily we have a pretty serious core team consisting of hard-working individuals, and them bastards are really putting it into gear the last week, especially after Thaer's resignation. Shoutout to bazookajeff, cryptochangements, gnock, and LoDo, you guys are the reason I don't have a single doubt in my mind as to what's going to happen, and what will the future bring. In fact, even if it brings the worst-possible scenario and shoves it up in our face, given how transparent you have been thus far, I can almost guarantee that the community will be duly noted and will probably respect your upcoming decisions.

While we who are in discord (hey, it's me, girugamesh!)usually jest and have a good time, there's also a place for serious discussions. I suppose that the idea behind my response was to discourage moon talk because that usually ends up doing more bad than good. People rush, get burned, and consequently blame the coin. Which is definitely not how it is supposed to unveil for a very simple reason - the coin itself isn't responsible for the movement of the market.

I have heard and read quite a bit of [let's call them] reviews regarding cryptopia, some are okay, and some are borderline horrible experiences. I have traded only once there to dump that simulation of a 60% instamine mobile mining shitcoin, and it went well. So, for what it's worth, I have a good experience with them, although the sample is quite small (1 transaction lol)

I've been with this coin since late Jan/early Feb, and it has been an incredible journey and a blast! We managed to stand out in a couple of occasions (fluf twit, podcast, shoutout in Doug Polk's video) with like minimal coding going on (I'm not bashing developers here whatsoever) which brings me to a thought that we'll do orders of magnitude better now that ya'll slapping that GitHub relentlessly

In conclusion, I wouldn't expect a massive price jump even though I would definitely appreciate it. But, what I am expecting are new doors that lead to another level in which we gain both popularity and more importantly - credibility. Those two elements coupled with each other are a perfect recipe for success.

Correct.

On a similar note, Crex24 has about double the volume of TradeOgre, and MSR makes exactly 0 of the Crex24 volume.

In other words, more often than not, getting on an exchange doesn't magically boost the price.

Yeah, it didn't take long for "Phil", "Jessica", "Mykyta", "Andrew", and other imaginary "developers" to GTFO as soon as it became apparent that they haven't got a clue about what they are doing.

A pathetic scam attempt if I may add.

Is there a timeline of the "progress" you're making or is it just SOON™?

This started in January, that's 7 months ago. There was a very inconvenient swap of tokens or whatever that occurred, to the point that I didn't know which one is valid in my Ethereum wallet.

I myself work in a similar environment and I can understand stress, deadlines, and hard work. However, the thing that bothers me is the amount of time you had (7 months) during which you did absolutely nothing except sending emails to registered users with the good ol' cliche "The team is working hard", "We applied for 4 major exchanges", "More news coming soon", "Cards are ready for beta testing" etc.

Now, it's clear to me that this might satisfy a broader audience that doesn't much care about this project in the first place. However, I would like to see some results, soon.

The fact that this coin has been ninja traded on a couple of exchanges is the biggest red flag for me as an investor. The coin was listed on TWO exchanges and you didn't find the time to push emails towards your users and notify them about the exchange listings? You personally said in one of those emails that you are going to issue an "official" mail as soon as the coin gets listed. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you failed miserably with that task.

So, after the shitstorm with coin swaps coupled with two ninja exchanges and the major standdown for SIM cards, thing are not looking too good after 7 long months.

If you're planning to reply on my post, please touch some of the concerns I have written instead of saying "Developers are working hard, everything is coming soon, etc" because that argument has been chewed and spit up multiple times on this thread. 

Complete and utter scam

Lol, you morons would mine literal shit if it were mineable. No wonder crypto is beginning to look like a summit of braindead entities.

It's just natural selection at this point.

I'm sorry, "facts" ?

>On time with promises
Promises of what? Launching a coin?

>The team will reveal soon
Soon™

>Debit cards will be out for testing soon
Soon™

>The devs have made no attempt to shill this coin so i highly doubt exit scam .
There's literally nothing to shill here, it's identical to the parent coin they forked (Masari). Literally the same, except it can't hit 1MH of nethash

First of all, it's not "all of a sudden" at all. Any somewhat serious investor wants to know what they are investing in, it's a pretty simple concept don't you think?

Second of all, yes, Bitcoin had a paper published, and in fact, it was before the genesis block. Not that it's significantly relevant at all, but Nakamoto explained his vision long before it was live.

The reason why the identity of these people is essential is because they talk about becoming a legal entity and are planning on creating FIAT gateways and debit cards. How is that even remotely similar to BTC? You are talking about apples and oranges here. No one wants to invest money in empty talks. You do realize there are over a thousand currencies of which most have a similar story to sell to the potential miners or investors, right? Differentiating legitimate from non-legitimate projects is quite hard when you have a sample size of nearly 2k currencies. Therefore, you better deliver a neatly crafted plan with a damn solid theory behind it, or else you're the same as any other shitcoin that promises HUR THE MOON DURR.

And, lastly, YOU judge them on whether they deliver their promises, I won't. Do you want to know why? Because, by the time you realize they have been feeding you with buzzwords and empty promises it will be already too late because you've invested both money and electricity in case you're mining it. I'm not looking to lose months of mining and buying a particular currency and base my calculations on the promises of the dev team that is anonymous and no one knows their coding skills, background, experience with cryptography, etc. All we know is that they know how to fork a coin on github.

What I'm saying is that you (as a coin developer) have to persuade serious investors with a solidly constructed project, not with a dream. As of now, there's nothing innovative about XPP whatsoever.

Your assumption is wrong, we are not the same person.

That being said, I would like you to address some concerns from my post instead of bringing up something that seems like Discord drama between you and someone else which is quite frankly none of my concern and I (as well as probably everybody else here) don't care about at all.

Don't bother with this, it's literally a copy of Masari with no new additions whatsoever.

It also doesn't have much of a roadmap except for "Our Mission" in the OP which is not only vague but it's also a pretty silly analogy in itself. Because, if "Jilian" has spent a lot of time mining and accumulating the coin, she definitely knows how to exchange them to FIAT, it's not really rocket science. The "actual" roadmap is also pretty vague and somewhat unrealistic.

One of the members of the "core" team said that Whitepaper is "really wanted by many" and "I will let the guys draft one out" as if it is a mundane piece that contains a bunch of buzzwords and gibberish. Well, let me tell you, if you're looking for real investors who know what they are doing, then you better draft an impeccable whitepaper and make sure to cover every aspect of your future plans or else it'll look amateurish and forced.

The "core" team introduction is laughable. If you want to be a legal entity (you said you do), listing common names like Andrew, Jake, and Jessica without actually linking to any profile from a reputable site is just as good as me saying Michael Jordan is my dad.

You have tackled one of the most impossible things in crypto and that's the introduction of ATM's alongside with >your debit cards. In order for anyone to believe in that story, you will have to deliver a well-written whitepaper, links to core team's profiles, a comprehensive roadmap, and much more.

Given that you failed to deliver all of those by now, it's safe to assume you're playing around that 10% premine and waiting for a listing or two in order to exit like dozens of other similar coins did.

Have fun.

Why is this token being ninja traded for a bargain on Yobit?

Developers clearly stated they were applying for four different exchanges and are yet to announce them?

So, what's going on?!

Thank you for the swift reply, I appreciate it.

Good luck with your future endeavors.

Hi,

I've been involved in this project since the early ICO days as I see quite a potential in it.

However, there are some problems I want to address to, and hopefully, get an explanation for.

I have logged into token explorer today and I stumbled upon four different tokens. Now, I don't have a clue how they get there or which one of them is real (ticker), so I would really appreciate if someone would tell me.

Here's a screenshot of the situation - http://prntscr.com/jp92e3

So, which one of those is actually valid?

On the other note, I've been receiving emails about you getting listed on 4 different exchanges which should have been announced during May.

What happened with that announcement and what's happening with the listings?

Thank you in advance.

You are missing the point here.

It doesn't matter what was the website made for, it still requires you to create an account. Once you create an account, they send an unhashed password to your e-mail. Now, regardless of the website's "preliminary" concept, it's still a major security issue as I pointed out in my first post. How can you say it shouldn't be counted as a security issue? Your main argument is that it's a "temporary" website. How is that even relevant? Someone can still jeopardize your account regardless, especially if you use same or similar passwords across several platforms.

Saying things like "Only stupid idiots use same passwords on multiple platforms" doesn't justify anything. Does that mean that people who do use same passwords deserve to be breached and have all of their money stolen? Of course it doesn't. It's of utmost importance for a website to devote as much attention as possible to security, I don't know how to simplify it more.

The cheating story is nothing more but a story. As I said in my first post, it would be great to see a log (or any evidence) of the alleged attack, double-voting, or whatever. Until then, it's nothing more but a lousy argument made by the incompetent developers.

You are also very wrong about "these children" being salty because MSR wasn't listed. First of all, referring to other posters as "children" is something a child(ish) [individual] would do. I, for one, am far away from being a child, although I would like to go back to that era in a heartbeat because I wouldn't have the problems I have as an adult. But, that's not important. Why would anyone be salty about not being listed on an exchange that doesn't even exist? Therefore, the total volume of this imaginary platform is absolute zero. If you had a grain of logic in your mind, you would realize that no one here is missing out anything for not being listed, because the platform doesn't even exist yet, it's being "coded" by the same incompetent individuals who created a website which issues passwords in plain text. I mean, it doesn't even matter if I am a part of MSR community or not, seeing the level of amateurism here would raise a massive red flag in my mind regardless.

The problem you're overseeing here is the fact that other people who trade and mess with other coins that are going to be listed on this soon-to-be-released exchange are at risk due to subpar security on the website. So, take a moment and think for a minute. It's about warning other people who potentially want to use this platform in the future about the security flaws, instead of being salty about the whole Masari shitshow. 

How is the position even relevant when one has valid arguments?

First of all, you saying "Masari cheated" doesn't mean anything. Unless you provide some solid evidence it's not even worth arguing over as it is your word we should be relying on.

Furthermore, your level of competence and professionalism is awful. Your platform does not hash user passwords meaning anyone can have access to people's passwords whether it's you, the developers, or a hacker. Either way, no one should feel comfortable knowing that anyone can access their password at any moment. In fact, I would advise that people who registered with the same password as on some other platforms to change it immediately or else you're jeopardizing your other accounts because these guys certainly have access to your VIC pw.

As far as the professionalism goes, it's more than obvious that you don't have any. "Adios Masari!" as your "official" statement says more than enough about you and the business (rather a scam) you're trying to run here. In fact, the three "paid" coins to be listed on your exchange are Fonero, VIC token, and some other Russian project I'm not familiar with (so I won't be commenting on that). However, I am seeing quite a pattern here.You being willing to list the shittiest scam coin out there is more than enough proof of your "We play a(n) honest game!" slogan. I don't think you are playing an honest game. In fact, I think you're heavily involved with the developers/shillers of Fonero who have nothing else but malicious intentions.

On top of everything, the content on your website is extremely poorly written. I am not a grammar God by any means, but the amount of attention you devoted to the content on your website is absolute zero. That only goes to show how professional and experienced you are.

In conclusion, you definitely aren't a reliable business. In fact, I wouldn't deposit a single satoshi to your exchange knowing how horribly rude and incompetent you are. As far as Masari goes, it probably didn't miss out anything by being rejected. In fact, I think the Masari community actually dodged a bullet.

The only thing I feel sorry for are people who put trust in these kinds of projects without researching first. Please pay attention to alarming elements like these or else you'll lose your money in a heartbeat. 

I'll take a shot at this.
It's probably the same with every of these CLI wallets.

The thing I did is create a shortcut of wallet-cli.exe, then right-click it, go to Properties and add --restore-deterministic-wallet in the "Target" field after the initial path.
Make sure you run the daemon and sync with the network, then open the shortcut of the wallet you've created and you will be prompted to give it a name and a password. You can use any name or password at this point. After that, it will ask you for the mnemonic seed. The rest is pretty straightforward.

Oh yeah, it's Windows 8.
Take care